QOTD: WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO PREPARE FOR THE FINAL STAGES OF THIS FOURTH TURNING?

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What preparations have you made or are making to prepare for the final stages of this Fourth Turning?

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115 Comments
Jimbo
Jimbo
June 28, 2022 12:05 pm

Lots of praying and ammo purchasing.

ken31
ken31
  Jimbo
June 28, 2022 10:06 pm

Why so much ammo? In 25 months in Iraq, ammo was never an issue, though we went months on end with daily firefights, well placed shots don’t take tons of ammo. Praying pays dividends.

Abigail Adams
Abigail Adams
June 28, 2022 12:15 pm

Having fun & enjoying my life while I still can. There’s nothing more that can be done.

motley
motley
  Abigail Adams
June 28, 2022 1:38 pm

Fabulous answer!

BL
BL
  motley
June 28, 2022 7:35 pm

Abby- I have been driving around for two solid days looking for the violent clashes and the beginning battles of the CW since SCOTUS overturned Roe v Wade. Nuttin’ so far, so carry on…… 🙂

Red River D
Red River D
  BL
June 28, 2022 10:36 pm

You mean you missed THE NIGHT OF RAGE?

It all took place on Twitter.

(…fun to watch, at least with the MUTE button fully engaged!!!…)

ken31
ken31
  Abigail Adams
June 28, 2022 10:07 pm

Live in today is something we would all do well to remember, this is where life is lived.

Bob
Bob
June 28, 2022 12:16 pm

Put my head between my knees and kiss my a$$ goodbye. (Gotta have some fun while we approach the end of Dante’s journey.)

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Bob
June 28, 2022 12:18 pm

If that were possible, it might be fun. Kinda hard to do, though.

Cedartown Mark
Cedartown Mark
June 28, 2022 12:19 pm

20lb. propane tanks, dual-fuel generator, solar batteries, water cans, lanterns, canned food, 12ga, 9mm, .357, blu-ray movies, paper products. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

Brewer55
Brewer55
  Cedartown Mark
June 28, 2022 3:52 pm

I picked up a 100 lb. tank dedicated to my recently purchased dual-fuel gennie. I also had a 500 gallon lp tank buried and connected to the existing 250 lb. tank.

Stucky
Stucky
June 28, 2022 12:21 pm

Nothing.

I prepped like a mad dog for the Y2K problem. Was convinced that the end of the world was near. Had hundreds of gallons of water stored in the basement and food from floor to ceiling. THAT worked out quite well. But, had to do it … I was in my 40s and had two sons and a wife to worry about.

I’ll be 70 next year. And I’m alone. What the fuck should I prep for? So, I can live to 85 by sucking down powdered eggs and puke up spam? Fuk dat. I’ll be riding it out for as long as I can, and when I no longer can, I won’t. Simple as that.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Stucky
June 28, 2022 1:40 pm

lol imagine overreacting for a computer problem that never happened

Warren
Warren
  Anonymous
June 28, 2022 3:08 pm

Had they not recognized the problem in time and spent a lot of money fixing it, the system would have broken down almost instantaneously.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Warren
June 28, 2022 3:50 pm

bullshit

Brewer55
Brewer55
  Warren
June 28, 2022 3:54 pm

Not exactly sure why you got 2 down votes. I’m not sure exactly what they did to fix the problem and I’m sure the down voters don’t either.

Vin
Vin
  Brewer55
June 28, 2022 4:17 pm

Warren is right. To save disk space, only 2 spaces had ever been made available for the year- 1983 was 83.

When 1999 clicked over to 2000, the computer assumed that 99 wanted to become 100. Not only was that wrong , there was no room. The system would fail at that point.

The calendar is an integral part of any program and had to be adjusted.

David Walters
David Walters
  Vin
June 28, 2022 5:41 pm

Absolutely, Y2K was real.

The fact that the crisis was averted is testimony to the huge effort made to recode all teh critical systems affected by it. I was working in the nuclear power industry at that time and teh rate of recoding was frenzied.

YourAverageJoe
YourAverageJoe
  Anonymous
June 28, 2022 6:25 pm

When our control computer screwed up on date conflict, I just changed the date on the computer to 1973 and viola, Y2K was resolved.

Anthony Aaron
Anthony Aaron
  Stucky
June 28, 2022 8:09 pm

Y2K was a fraud from the get-go … the biggest thing it did was allow israeli IT personnel to ‘fix’ the programming in a lot of our legacy systems that needed ‘fixing’ … that was their back door into wreaking havoc against US ever since.

Doubt it? Look at how they’re embedded into all of the NSA spy stuff — with lots of that ‘data’ being sent directly to israel …

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Anthony Aaron
June 28, 2022 10:12 pm

Doesn’t need to be a fraud for the Israelis to exploit it to their advantage.

Mountainrat
Mountainrat
June 28, 2022 12:23 pm

That’s mostly classified information. The non classified part is I am following Abigail’s example by leading a good life until I can’t anymore. I am also working on getting right with God.

PSBindy
PSBindy
  Mountainrat
June 28, 2022 1:58 pm

Working on getting right with God is, imho, BEING right with God.

Carry on M Rat.

Boogieman
Boogieman
June 28, 2022 12:27 pm

Sometimes I feel cursed to live in the tail end of this fourth turning. Then I remember, I also got to live in the second and third turnings(moods). I got to experience the awakening, the unraveling and now the crisis. I have to believe that we were born for times such as these. “PADDLING WHILE THE EMPIRE BURNS” is maybe the best advise I could hope for. I will keep my side of the street clean, prepare for what, I know not.. The general feeling of despair has hit home for so many of us that maybe the best revenge is to live life, be kind, have a spiritual life and above all else don’t play the game.

David
David
June 28, 2022 12:29 pm

I read the 4th turning. It is a long book. We have been prep’ing for years on and off. We are in pretty good shape. All the typical stuff – guns, ammo, food, cash, precious metals, etc.. Every 4th turning has a crisis point. We have not reached that yet. What is that point ? When the left attempts to steal the 2022 election ? They proved in 2020 they will no longer accept defeat at the polls. My guess is they can not allow the House or the Senate to fall into repub hands as there will be investigations and declassification of data they can not allow to happen. Between Dr. Douglas Frank’s work and the True the Vote work we know what happened in 2020. They are already setting up to do that in 2022.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  David
June 28, 2022 4:43 pm

Dems do not worry about the republicants investigating. They ran a soft coup d’etat against a presidential candidate and then president and not a single person had to pay the price.

IF the republicants take the House, Kevin McCarthy will become Paul Ryan, but with a CA tan.

YourAverageJoe
YourAverageJoe
  David
June 28, 2022 6:28 pm

I think it will be when Russia rolls thru Lithuania to supply Kaliningrad or else.

Stucky
Stucky
  YourAverageJoe
June 28, 2022 9:35 pm

If Russia was going to fuck up Lithuania, I believe they would have already done so.

Kaliningrad can EASILY be supplied via ships. It may be a bit slower and more expensive … I dunno … but it is already being done.

I firmly believe this was a NATO dirty trick to try to goad Russia into attacking the Battery Nation …. so that NATO could invoke Article 5.

Once again Putin and his staff showed their brilliance with their restraint, refusing to fall for NATO’s bullshit.

another Doug
another Doug
June 28, 2022 12:32 pm

Planting the garden.

Red River D
Red River D
  another Doug
June 28, 2022 1:15 pm

Exactly.

First we SOW. Then we REAP!!!

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MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Red River D
June 28, 2022 2:39 pm

Playmore with Claymore.

Red River D
Red River D
  MrLiberty
June 28, 2022 3:53 pm

Yes. Gunpowder and explosive ordnance make for the finest toys.

But we can’t always play. Sometimes we have to calculate ballistic coefficients and clean maintain our lead dispensers. Oh, and also feed the horses and beeves.

Life is good!!!

ken31
ken31
  Red River D
June 28, 2022 10:13 pm

I get grand ideas about explosives that are always shot down by common sense and safety. I would feel really bad if my “prep” went off on the wrong person.

But then I never did make to EOD school. Was too busy ground pounding.

Red River D
Red River D
  ken31
June 28, 2022 10:43 pm

I know a few old time UDT/SeALs who’d be more than happy to share recipes with a Marine Corps machine gunner named ken31…

…but you’re right. Booby trapping your own property is a recipe for butchering the wrong fellas.

ken31
ken31
  Red River D
June 28, 2022 11:00 pm

Got it in 1, Red. Well done. I learned a thing or two, but its the last part. My best work was actually in the Army. I was a mutt.

Though at one point I had to be told “redacted just quit mentioning the Marine Corps, it is not helping”.

rhs jr
rhs jr
June 28, 2022 12:35 pm

Trying to increase food production and preservation on a very small fixed retirement budget ( I have some great ideas) and it is all without any help from the government because I am not a Minority Farmer or Rancher, and of course all small farmer/ranchers are still having to struggle against all the existing government barriers to production (none have been removed yet). Plus costs are skyrocketing, parts and supplies are now a problem, we are in a drought, processing and retail markets are still mostly closed to us, and nobody wants to work, much less agricultural work; but I know that some big hunger changes are coming.

YourAverageJoe
YourAverageJoe
  rhs jr
June 28, 2022 6:30 pm

I’m shopping for a crossbow to shoot feral hogs within the city limits.
They be good eating under 100lbs.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  YourAverageJoe
June 28, 2022 10:13 pm

Oh, you are actually talking about hogs……

ken31
ken31
  YourAverageJoe
June 28, 2022 10:33 pm

I bought a hunting rifle and a shotgun, just in case we need to forage. Lots of game around here. They used to call armadillos “hoover hogs” and we have plenty of deer. My M4 isn’t really a hunting rifle, and I also will need something slaughter the hogs and cattle when we get that far.

ken31
ken31
  rhs jr
June 28, 2022 10:20 pm

The handouts they are giving to anyone but white people are obscene, but I ruled out accepting government strings. Salatin put me over the edge of considering that. I just spent more on fencing materials than I ever have for anything without wheels or a door. It stings.

Catherine Austin Fitts was talking about some lone congressman pushing a bill to free us from the USDA on meat sales, so we can maybe push that angle if it does any good.

I haven’t had the courage to get a new quote on a well after the fencing bill came. I am still cutting my own posts, and that is going to take a while. Last I spoke to the one guy, they couldn’t even get casings in the same way I am still waiting on my hydraulic auger, because they are waiting on steel parts.

God Bless you, brother.

DRUD
DRUD
June 28, 2022 12:41 pm

Stocked up on ammo, build a solar generator, buying another quarter beef, got some PMs, gardens coming in OK, even though I generally suck at gardening. That’s the base level.

Shorter term, trying to short the shit out the housing market and time the PM and Uranium Miners inevitable bid up. Losing both ends right now, but that’s just with some speculation FRNs I can afford to lose.

Other than that just trying to get shit done around the house and watch which way the wind blows.

Winchester
Winchester
June 28, 2022 12:52 pm

Just bought the farm across the road earlier in year. Wasn’t a planned thing (now anyway), but the owners got into a bad way and needed to sell. Been working hard getting it ready for some livestock. It is a small “hobby farm”, so a few pigs, cows, and other beneficial livestock will be a start. I think it worked out well as that will make us (almost) self sufficient. I plan to turn the old milk parler into a butchering shop.

Other than that, many many gardens, fruit tree orchards, raspberry, blueberry bushes.

Oh and the most important…debt free VERY soon. If anything its not preparing for the end of the world, it is preparing for a new way of life.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Winchester
June 28, 2022 3:27 pm

that sounds a lot like what my plan was as well! only have a few acres in scattered plots and a very tiny cramped house with almost no storage space.. money has become the limiting factor in any of this though, and options for work around here are limited and the pay is crap.. not much in the way of getting ahead.
Much thinking especially the past half-year facing this reality, that we’re running out of time and we’re nowhere near properly prepared, trying to triage the preparation to think up alternative solutions for a lot of things. It would be a lie to say that i wasnt scared shitless by our poor prospects of making it in this area (arid rocky infertile mountains with a psychotic government thats like a combination of the worst aspects of california, new jersey, new york city, chicago, and so on… aka greece!). Also daunting is the fact that pretty much zero of family and friends we have in the area think theres anything really serious coming. A handful of others do and we try to discuss the subject of how we’ll feed ourselves when the s really hits the fan, land and water availability are always the limiting factors. Everyone here already has some kind of production, almost everyone puts in a garden for the house, a handful of people are just beginning to realize the value of preserving clean lines of seeds, many people have at least a few of some kind of fruit trees with sporadic product, most people have at least a few olive trees (though the pressing of olives into oil is currently dependent on a plant up the road using modern machinery. Even if we were to a few of us manage to put together a low-tech olive press nobody has the physical space to put one and building anything here runs you into the psychotic government which will only permit something like a hotel..) and vineyards. Those take way more labor than their produce is ever gonna be worth , if you sell the wine (selling wine here, usually to some merchant who has a shop somewhere, gets you about 2 bucks a liter. if you paid for all the labor that went into tending a vineyard (with hand tools machines dont even reach the locations or fit anywhere) you’d be losing money) , unless you drink so much that you consume it all!

there is a lot of thinking about , on the one hand, how did our ancestors survive in this very same place (as we’ve been here since the neolithic so somehow they survived for us to tell the tale) , and on the other, how to hang on until the system that’s suffocating any even primitive attempt to survive finally packs up and abandons this place back to being a remote back side of nowhere. The recent rumblings of the globalists perhaps trying to get a war started down here and egging the turks on to claim half the aegean and invade, almost sounds like a potential opportunity to replace controlled demolition with chaotic collapse. We’d eventually rid ourselves of any turkish garrison left here up to a couple company sized units, unless they came in with blitzkrieg extermination level warfare on their minds from day one (say a battalion with a big mechanized component and three dozen helicopters and unlimited ammo – then, were pretty well fucked!. If they , much more likely, came in and merely tried a classic occupation garrison without keeping much air support immediately available (i.e. stationed on island or at most on a close neighbouring one) , then the minority of sufficiently patriotic and serious people would i am confident be able to go guerilla on them enough to both capture useful gear and button them up in some HQ likely close to town where the port and airfield are, and either get themselves cleaned out once they lose control of the ground situation, or wait to get picked up and taken home. In either case it would involve exactly the element that’s got a will to survive and fight for their homes, to wake the fuck up and do so, and take their lives back into their own hands. Even if the greek govt were to reestablish control (supposing they still existed) the place would have created its own independence and we wouldnt accept their garrison either after that. their parasitic free shit toadies would have starved in the meanwhile anyhow!
so in a weird way that possibility seems like an opportunity.
I see anyone who is still alive here in five or ten years to know as a matter of course how to collect, store, and prepare acorns, and as a consequence to actually have a lot of respect and care for the various oaks we have here.
I also see anyone who is still alive here in five or ten years to have kept his spirit going by either strengthening or rediscovering his connection with god. The higher up chruch leadership has totally sold out. the locals… mm they might be one third sellouts and one third still true, but uninspired or passive, and one third the real deal (which if you think about is is actually a pretty good situation compared to many other places!).
I tried pushing an argument for relocating to the US over the past few years with extreme resistance from the wife. it never happened. Now it really seems like it’s too late to make such moves, and the money aint there for starting all over from scratch anyway.

prepping when the rest of the family simply doesnt see any need or even think youre a bit nuts, and consequently wont lift a finger to participate or help, or even bitches about why youre taking up so much of the small cellar space with jars of food etc, can be very tiring. Dealing with the immediate family around, is like pushing on a rope on any such subjects. Wife is fine going to town with cousins and friends for coffee etc, but ask her to actually stop and pick up 50 pounds of rice and some glass jars to store it in, while she’s down there, and she suddenly is full of excuses why she didn’t.. or she comes back with a 1 kilo bag of rice instyead and says oh she felt weird buying too much she thought people would say something.

water is going to be one of our biggest problems when the shit really hits the fan and i still dont have any realistic answer to that problem.

Winchester
Winchester
  Anonymous
June 29, 2022 8:18 am

Never worried much about water. Then again I have multiple spring fed streams through the property that feed into a couple of different ponds. One thing I have for sure is water. I have dozens of lifestraw and sawyer filters. Also shit done of PUR filters. Also, 100% chlorine as well as iodine tablets. I even have a still, which of course would only be used for purifying water 😉 .

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Winchester
June 29, 2022 2:17 pm

water! springs! streams! hell yeah, i really miss central/western PA and the mountainous parts of WV.. lovely country and plenty of water for sure! here it is a rare fluke to see a drop of rain between may and october, and some years it’s much worse. this year we got only one rain after february, thats it. maybe a couple totally useless sprinklings that only deposited a film of red sahara dust on everything, not even a millimeter of actual water. but it was quite cold until mid-may, when it turned into summer rather suddenly. til about the 10th of may we had the stove going for heat. but weather in this region (aegean) has always been extremely variable. e.g. rain over a ten year period you might see 4x variations between one year and another. you might see two feet of snow like this year (havent seen that since 2015) and then go a few years without any snow at all..

Winchester
Winchester
  Anonymous
June 29, 2022 5:34 pm

We get about 100-120 inches or so a year of rain. Lots of water for sure.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Winchester
June 30, 2022 2:11 am

damn..
here ive seen over 40 inches in an exceptional year, and only 13 inches just the year before.. Many trees flower and produce fruit in alternating years, e.g. most oaks show this trait to some extent (lean and fat years) , olives much more so. Every 10 to 15 years the trees here will shift again from even to odd years and back, driven usually by water stress. There will be a year which would have been their year to fruit, but there was simply not enough water to support the growth. the trees will flower, but either drop the buds or flowers early or else drop the fruit when it’s still tiny, to cut losses. Then if the subsequent winter is sufficiently wet the tree will re-flower the next year and then it’ll be back to every other year but offset.
Again in a very rare situation of multiple years back to back of exceptional water, the trees might fruit twice in a row. usually the second crop is about half of a normal one. then the trees are exhausted, and again they skip the next year and thus the cycle moves offset from the previous pattern.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
June 28, 2022 1:18 pm

Kayaking. 2nd trip is in July and another one in August.

PSBindy
PSBindy
  Mary Christine
June 28, 2022 1:55 pm

You go girl!

JIMSKI
JIMSKI
June 28, 2022 1:24 pm

To old and broken down to bug out. Will take a stand in my home. Based on preps and meds if a total collapes happens I am not a good long prospect.

So in the event of a total collapes i am going hunting. Balance some books.

We know the authors of our demise. We need to ensure they do not benefit or survive for that matter.

Red flag that bitches.

Steve Z.
Steve Z.
  JIMSKI
June 28, 2022 1:31 pm

Jimski,
The last great act of defiance.
Good on ya.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  JIMSKI
June 28, 2022 2:41 pm

Lots of them put signs out front to help one know where they are.

another Doug
another Doug
  JIMSKI
June 28, 2022 3:11 pm

It’s the meds that will get most of us…

Warren
Warren
  JIMSKI
June 28, 2022 3:12 pm

I suspect that one they figure out what is happening to them, the injected will be cashing in on some debts. If I was in the medical industrial complex I would relocate and change my profession.

Red River D
Red River D
  Warren
June 28, 2022 5:26 pm

The lefty demons will find a way to blame “radical Christians” for the vaxx going wrong. Don’t expect them to find logic and reason now, when it has abandoned them permanently into perpetuity.

If they ever go on a rampage, their targets will never be legitimate targets. Their minds no longer allow for correct answers.

august
august
  JIMSKI
June 28, 2022 3:35 pm

>>>Too old and broken down to bug out. Will take a stand in my home. Based on preps and meds if a total collapse happens I am not a good long prospect.

Ditto here. Doing my best not to go out like a pussy. I’m 72, and no one gets out of here alive.

“I am just going outside, and may be some time.” – Captain Lawrence Oates

Anonymous
Anonymous
  august
June 28, 2022 5:01 pm

Red Dwarf – Rimmer on Captain Oates

Anthony Aaron
Anthony Aaron
  JIMSKI
June 28, 2022 8:14 pm

‘We know the authors of our demise.’

Really? You know how to find Bill from the Gates of Hell? Henry Kissinger? Klaus Schwab? That POS Trudeau in Canada? Basically, any and all of the WEF crowd?

Hate to burst your bubble, but those folks at the very top 0.00001% of the heap are the ones doing it to all of US … 

PSBindy
PSBindy
June 28, 2022 1:48 pm

Plan A is to be old enough that it doesn’t really matter much. Plan B is…is…is in the planning stages so I’m not at liberty to disclose. Yeah, that’s it.

flash
flash
June 28, 2022 2:37 pm

Everyday…

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
June 28, 2022 2:39 pm

Hoping to get out of this state and to a better one. If the SHTF before that can happen, will simply fight till the bitter end. Certainly not going to any camps.

Anonymous
Anonymous
June 28, 2022 2:45 pm

Watching many who are starting to realize something is not right, panic trying to find normal everyday items that are no longer guaranteed to be available.

Been prepped for years, so basically, doing nothing out of the ordinary. Just giggling at those buying 400 rolls of toilet paper but having no plan for how to get food when the supply system completely breaks. What does toilet paper taste like? Does it have any nutritional value?

Aunt Acid
Aunt Acid
  Anonymous
June 28, 2022 4:04 pm

It’s all about the sauce.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Aunt Acid
June 28, 2022 5:56 pm

Gotta watch the brown sauce though.

Red River D
Red River D
  MrLiberty
June 28, 2022 10:53 pm

One thing I always love about TBP comment boards…

…I’m never the most vulgar, obscene or GROSS commentator here!!!

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Red River D
June 29, 2022 5:40 pm

Fine. I was holding off on the red sauce comment…….

Treefarmer
Treefarmer
June 28, 2022 2:53 pm

We’re pretty much ready. The only wrinkle is that we’ve been living in our RV full time for 10 years now. We spend seven months of the year on our farm up in ID and five months traveling around the southwest boondocking on public lands. That lifestyle may finally be coming to an end soon. If we need to spend the winter in ID we’re prepared and able to do that. We’ve chosen to develop the property with everything needed to live well, except a house. The final piece is that we’ve had to decide whether to run the grid into our property or set up the world’s greatest solar system with a backup generator and a 1,000 gallon propane tank. It will cost about the same amount of money to go either way. We’re leaning toward the independent power system. A lot of our neighbors think that’s silly because running electricity into the property will add tremendous value to the property. After living off grid for 10 years in an RV with a big solar system, we don’t really feel like going back to the grid. It’s feels good to us to be responsible for your own power, water and sewer. We shall see, but life is good regardless.

Ghost
Ghost
  Treefarmer
June 28, 2022 3:02 pm

I follow this guy, who travels around the whole continent and beyond!

If you know him, tell him I said hello. He knows who I am.

The Art of the Boondock

Treefarmer
Treefarmer
  Ghost
June 28, 2022 5:04 pm

We haven’t run into him, but have run into a lot of people like him over the years. Now I have another blog to check out. We have a 5th wheel loaded up to the max with solar and fresh water capacity. When we boondock our goal is to not see anybody, so we don’t tend to hobnob with a lot of other full timers. Our blog is more about letting friends and family know where we are if things get crazy.
http://r-v-ino.blogspot.com/

ken31
ken31
  Treefarmer
June 28, 2022 10:36 pm

Friend of my Aunt’s family lives the RV life. They don’t seem at all healthy, but they do seem relatively happy.

Stucky
Stucky
  ken31
June 28, 2022 10:46 pm

With gas at $6/gal and going up that happy quotient may not last much longer.

subwo
subwo
  Stucky
June 29, 2022 12:55 am

Put my wife on road Monday for Northern California to take care of her bro. He got sick and had shits so bad he went into kidney failure. He went into hospital Friday and will be discharged tomorrow. They said he tested pos for covid and took him out of ICU to covid ward. He has no health care. His bill to stabilize him is over 100 K$. Wife also says he has congestive heart failure. She’ll wait for cardiologist to tell him. Point is I was tracking her via CC and $76 fill-ups were the norm.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Treefarmer
June 29, 2022 4:27 am

no real point to connecting to the grid especially this late in the day.
here in greece we are, but thats because it’s essentially forbidden to put solar panels on the roof (here in a place with blazing hot sun like 350 days a year) because it would spoil the views for the tourists (not even kidding).. a smaller scale pv setup is in storage to be set up later on when that doesnt matter anymore.
the biggest dependence here on the grid anyway is that the whole village’s water supply is pumped up to a cistern by a grid-powered three phase motor. Without that we’re back to hauling buckets and jars of water from the well (which in late summer in a dry year can be 25 feet down) like in the old days, with corresponding implications for sanitation and hygiene. anything else, without electricity, we’ll get by well enough, that electricity will be one of the least of our problems!

bob in apopka
bob in apopka
June 28, 2022 3:07 pm

Out of debt, good water to my back, tons of your standard prep gear, two deep freezers full, Learning Spanish, growing a food forest, standing the late watch over baited traps for bad humans, training lots of training, working out a counter strike plan for post gun confiscation, moving towards removing myself from the system/trap we are all falling into at least as much as is possible.

Treefarmer
Treefarmer
  bob in apopka
June 28, 2022 4:56 pm

Learning Spanish is a good move. I tell everyone I meet to do the same. It’s not a political statement, it’s reality. After spending a lot of years along the border from TX through to CA, I can tell you the future of the US is Hispanic. They are simply going to do to the US what the Europeans did to the New World…overwhelm with pure numbers. We used to talk about how everyone needed to learn Japanese, then it was Chinese. A friend from Mexico then pointed out to me that if you can speak English and Spanish, you have almost the entire world covered.

flash
flash
June 28, 2022 3:07 pm

Anything I want, bruh . White privilege ..dontcha’ know.

NickelthroweR
NickelthroweR
June 28, 2022 3:14 pm

Making connections with like-minded people. I’ve prepped about as much as I feel comfortable with as I’m not going to entirely sacrifice the present to better live through the crisis. During difficult times, the one thing I always wished I had more of was time – a buffer while I figured things out. Well, I believe I have that buffer. I have a buffer in food, water, energy, sanitation and $$$ which means that as things unwind, I’ll be able to make rational decisions and not have to panic.

mark
mark
June 28, 2022 3:36 pm

I have put these big picture survival steps up a few times that fits the question of this thread from my relentless actions. I usually post it when someone says you can’t eat gold implying prepping is an either or Mad Max choice for everyone (Mad Max is a real possibility for a time – but nothing lasts forever…except eternity…and that for me that is long settled).

WHAT I’M WORKING ON TO PREPARE FOR THE FINAL STAGES OF THIS FOURTH TURNING?
1. Water
2. Food/Food Production
3. Shelter
4. Essentials
5. Guns/Ammo – Training – Defense/Offense Capabilities
6. Medical
7. Barter
8. Community/Tribe
9. Communication
10. Plan B & C
11. Silver (pre 64 junk dimes, quarters, & 1 oz. American Eagles)
12. Gold (only if you have wealth, buy it in all values from 1/10 of an ounce to 1 oz.
• Yea 11 and 12 may not be needed at first, but nothing lasts forever, including every single crash in history, and if you don’t have real wealth, and have not completed 1 through 11 in depth you do not spend what you don’t have (wealth) on gold.

Precious metals are not either or they are part of complete Prep…after the top 10 are secured.

But to go beyond the above obvious survival steps for me it’s really about my wife, daughter, son in law, grandson, two nephews (with six kids between them) who I love like sons and helped raise, and my father in law who lives with us. I prepare to provide and take of them when the time comes…and to be honest…I never thought in my wildest dreams I was going to have this much TIME!

Every day is a gift…and many days has a checklist.

I started serious end game prepping to stand in the gap for my family in 2012, retired in 2015…the same year I started posting on TBP, the only site on the internet I have done that on due the tremendous content…and so many open eyed sharp, witty minds.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  mark
June 28, 2022 4:48 pm

Mark, well outlined and I hope some folks read and heed. You’re right about gold–it is for the far side of the crisis when and if rule of law returns. It won’t see you through this 4th turning, but you or your descendants will see IT through.

mark
mark
  Anonymous
June 28, 2022 6:38 pm

No Name…after the end of the beginning for us both…just make sure we meet at the feet of King Jesus!!!

Everyone there will be walking on streets paved with Gold…God created irony…besides everything else.

(He also created practical jokes…me being raised a Yankee…what a jokster).

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What is coming is so much more than just the greatest 4th Turning.

Au Gee
Au Gee
  mark
June 28, 2022 8:12 pm

Mark,
Can you expand on the following from your list please?
-What all is included in your “Essentials” bin?
and
-What items are you stocking up on for the “Barter” bin that
aren’t included in your broader list of prep items.

TIA…much obliged.

mark
mark
  Au Gee
June 28, 2022 10:28 pm

Good to read you Au Gee!

Nothing I thought of myself Au Gee…been doing this so long…consistently purchasing small lists is the key…like stacking, pushups, and practicing running a rack.

Got the lists from many websites, vids, but mostly books…the single best resource for ‘LISTS’ of everything in every category is probably here:

I keep it in the bathroom where I do my most regular deep thinking…with index cards and sharp pencils. There have been very few weeks over the last decade I have not made purchases.

The dollar stores have a lot of bargains.

I cannot see TSHTF not happening before November…but I have been wrong before on the timing.

Book Description:

Across the ages, in every survival story, a disaster of some sort plays a prominent role.

Sometimes the part is played by the government, sometimes it is played by Mother Nature, and other times, the role is taken on by a random mishap. If we have learned one thing studying the history of disasters, it is this: those who are prepared have a better chance at survival than those who are not.

A crisis rarely stops with a triggering event. The aftermath can spiral, having the capacity to cripple our normal ways of life. Because of this, it’s important to have a well-rounded approach to our preparedness efforts.

Due to the overwhelming nature of preparedness, we have created the Prepper’s Blueprint to help get you and your family ready for life’s unexpected emergencies. To make a more comprehensive, easy-to-follow program, The Prepper’s Blueprint has been simplified and divided up in a way to help you make sense of all the preparedness concepts and supply lists provided.

We have divided the chapters into layers of preparedness.

1: Chapters 1-14, prepares you for those everyday disasters that have shorter-term effects: power outages, storms, injuries, and evacuations Layer

2: Chapters 15-31 help you to get ready for disasters that turn out to be much longer-lasting: economic collapse, long term power outages, and pandemics, to name a few.

3: Chapters 32-56 prepares you for the long haul and a complete change of lifestyle, the end of the world as we know it: providing food and water once supplies run out, security, retreat properties, and long-term plans.

The goal of The Prepper’s Blueprint is to help you find freedom through self-reliance, and ultimately, to get you and your family to a point where you can not only survive, but thrive, in a world that may be permanently altered.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  mark
June 29, 2022 9:27 am

😂 Reading while a partial vacuum is being created seems to aid memory retention…

mark
mark
  Anonymous
June 29, 2022 11:45 am

The bug has No Name…

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Aunt Acid
Aunt Acid
June 28, 2022 4:06 pm

Moar whiskey, vodka, gin and rum.

And some other things that Auntie cannot seem to make correctly at home.

Oh, and don’t forget the mixers!

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Aunt Acid
June 28, 2022 4:21 pm

If you actually want to make correctly at home…..

https://homedistiller.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

Check legalities (if you care) in your area.

Where I am, owning distillation equipment IS legal, distilling alcohol is NOT without a government permit.

I just collect equipment.

EDIT: BTW, important SHTF stuff here,

Alcohol as Fuel – https://homedistiller.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=5

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
June 29, 2022 4:36 am

Until recently in greece, distilling had, amazingly, less red tape than in the states. However they a few years ago just abribtrarily changed their rules, so that people who have a still license, arent ‘allowed’ to do any distillation for others (e.g. not even for friends, relatives, neighbors, etc, dont even dream about doing it for money!) , only for themselves, i.e. on grapes/etc they own. Until then one would take his material (here it’s typically fermented skins/pressings left over from making wine, but some people do other things) to one of a number of neighbors who have a still and license, and usually do some barter (share of the product, or firewood , most usually) for a few runs. Very likely some of this still goes on but now it would have to hide. They also cranked up the fees and added tons of new ‘requirements’ to anyone obtaining or inheriting a license. my grandfather had a license, but when he died, we discovered that it would cost a couple thousand bucks to take over his license, as well as jump through other bureacratic hoops. we said eff that.

Red River D
Red River D
  Aunt Acid
June 28, 2022 5:34 pm

“…And some other things that Auntie cannot seem to make correctly at home…”

If your meaning is intoxicating comestibles, I’m of no use to you.

But if your meaning is something with a little more explosive chemical reaction, then I can certainly point you in the right directions!!!

Aunt Acid
Aunt Acid
  Red River D
June 28, 2022 7:33 pm

Appreciate that, Red.

Paleocon
Paleocon
June 28, 2022 4:25 pm

It is all about lifestyle modification. Learn about your local edible plants and find them. If you fish and hunt, have a plan. You have to be able to sustain your life unless you plan to roll over and die when your supplies run out.

Most importantly, pray for Jesus Christ to return.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
June 28, 2022 5:03 pm

My preparation starts every morning with time in The Bible and a short talk with God. It is probably the most important step in preparation for anything. Other than that, I spend my time gardening, taking care of the house/property and loving my family. In other words, enjoying life as much as I can.

ursel doran
ursel doran
June 28, 2022 5:36 pm

Do not try to buy a house!!! Don’t even think about it.

The Most Splendid Housing Bubbles in America, June Update: “Deceleration” and “Tipping Point” of the Raging Mania

Anonymous
Anonymous
June 28, 2022 6:23 pm

What did you do to plan for a covid style disruption of society?
Unguessable right? Thats whats coming. More unknowable bullshit plus mad inflation. How do you prep for that? I’m more worried about having heat come january. Heating oil at 7 bucks a gallon. On a radiant boiler system what are my prep options?

mark
mark
  Anonymous
June 28, 2022 6:52 pm

Research and consider a Kerosene heater (I have two still in the box one 5 years old the second 2) and have two stashes of Kerosene (in 5 gallon containers ) I have some land so storage is remote and safe.

I used a Kerosene heater in the 70’s (we had oil) and were priced out…so I understand being backed into a $$$ corner.

This may be an option…don’t know the details of your situation.

9 BEST KEROSENE HEATERS FOR INDOOR USE 2022: Top Rated

https://appliancesradar.com/best-kerosene-heaters-for-indoor-use/

There are other sources of life sustaining winter heating prep…propane gas logs…my wife works in that industry so that is an option…but there is the $$$ cost.

mark
mark
  mark
June 28, 2022 7:57 pm

No Name…I had to leave and this below was timed out…a few more thoughts:

Research and consider a Kerosene heater (I have two still in the box one 5 years old the second 2) and have two stashes of Kerosene (in 5 gallon containers) I have some land so storage is remote and safe.

I used a Kerosene heater in the 70’s (we had oil) and were priced out…so I understand being backed into a $$$ corner.

This may be an option…don’t know the details of your situation.

9 BEST KEROSENE HEATERS FOR INDOOR USE 2022: Top Rated
https://appliancesradar.com/best-kerosene-heaters-for-indoor-use/

CAN I STORE KEROSENE IN MY GARAGE?
https://expertpickhub.com/climate/heaters/store-kerosene-in-garage/

There are other sources of life sustaining winter heating prep…propane gas logs…my wife works in that industry so that is an option we have used for 0ver 20 years…but there is the significant start up $$$ cost.

If you just want a low $ back up (besides serious sleeping blankets and smart clothing to keep you alive worst case) kerosene could be plan B or C?

Safe storage is a consideration.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  mark
June 29, 2022 4:46 am

I’d rather use the kerosene for lighting and wood for heat. Even here in southern greece we can manage with effort to collect enough wood to feed a small cast iron stove through the winter (this past winter the stove was run from december to early may). In most of the states youve got enormous forests and no restrictions on actually cutting or using any of it for wood! (here cutting almost anything other than explicitly cultivated-for-food- trees is forbidden and punished harshly)
kerosene is so expensive that , really, for light it is much more valuable.
We connected to the grid this year (not my favorite idea, wife insisted on it) but for several years for our very small house, we used about, very rough figures, 40 liters or so of kerosene a year for lighting. We also use about 40-50 kilos of propane in 15 kilo bottles (roughly three bottles) a year for cooking. The electricity is really only used for some lights, small fridge, and washing machine.
Heating with kerosene though would have been very expensive!
The stuff keeps a very long time if properly sealed, ive heard of kero being good 20 years in a sealed can… You can reasonably store a couple decades of high quality light and spare parts (you _will_ break glass lamp chimneys no matter how careful you are, so have spares!).. for heating, better spend the money on some good axes, hatchets, mauls/sledgehammers, wedges, a couple bow saws and a shitload of blades. We have a small chainsaw as well, and a reserve of grease, oil, and chains, as well as files for sharpening the chains, but when you cant get those spares anymore the chainsaw is just dead weight. Not to mention that it could be very bad opsec in a shtf situation to be going about generating the noise signature of a chainsaw. hand saws are silent by comparison.
Right now while we cut and haul our wood to the rod by hand, we do bring it to the village by truck. When that is no longer an option we’re also going to have a lot less firewood on hand at the house.

back to the original point, kerosene is really high grade stuff, i think in future times it will be _much_ more valuable for lighting than for heat and youll wish you hadnt burned it up by the gallon (a kerosun type heater i used to use burned about a liter a day of fuel!) when youll be running out of candles etc. Lighting before the modern age was a VERY different business and weve not properly appreciated its importance.
also make sure you have at least a couple lifetime supplies of good quality matches sealed up and kept somewhere bone dry.. or a case of bic lighters.

ATarese
ATarese
  Anonymous
June 29, 2022 8:07 am

I’ve been stalling pulling the trigger on any gas, propane or kerosene powered anything for just as much concern about any ongoing availability of those fuels too over any long run. Don’t forget, the intent of the cockroaches is to strangle all options.

My interest in solar skidded to a halt when I found out I would be forced to connect to the grid when I could care less about ‘selling surplus back to them’ AND that I had to agree to give them the right to order me to turn it off!!!

Anonymous
Anonymous
  ATarese
June 29, 2022 2:12 pm

so, there is some value in 20 years of storage for having options, even if you know that after that, your chance of resupply is scant or none..

as for being forced to connect to the grid, ive heard of various jurisdictions that try to impose this. this almost always applies to an ‘installation’ , i.e. the inspectable ‘permanent’ wiring.. A totally ad-hoc system thats just, say extension cords and nothing bolted down to a permitted inspected building.. well it’s just some crap taking up space in your yard, right? if it happens to have a voltage across some pieces of metal and you happen to hook up an extension cord and run that in through a cracked open screen door or something , well, that’s not a solar installation..

where i am here, theyre even stupider. they dont compel a grid connection, but they flat out prohibit putting anything on the roof that might ‘spoil the view’… solar water heaters as well, not allowed. anyone who got one put up before they enacted this rule keeps it, but no new ones.. and theres no leftover space to lay out an ad-hoc installation as i described, the whole lot is about 1200 square feet and half of that is the house.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  ATarese
June 29, 2022 5:46 pm

“when I found out I would be forced to connect to the grid”

Say what?

Do you mean they require service to your house? That is a bit different from “connected to the grid” around here.

Yes, have to have “service” to get residency permits on first build, but after that no regulations like that that I know of here.

Just do a stand alone system and don’t connect to the grid. You may still have to pay a monthly fee for electrical service, but they can’t make you use their power.

Meg
Meg
June 28, 2022 7:52 pm

In addition to the usual prep recommendations, avoid crowds and the unhinged.

Taking a road trip to Grand Canyon. Enjoy this beautiful country and God’s creation.

Started a hugelkulture plot.

Do not comply.

Psalm 91.

Arizona Bay
Arizona Bay
June 28, 2022 7:52 pm

Getting right with God because none of the rest will really matter when it gets going.

World War Zeke
World War Zeke
June 28, 2022 8:03 pm

Please add wide-brim hat and infrared laser safety goggles to your outdoor preps. OPFOR will stab out your eyesight quickly and cheaply from aerial drones on automated hunter-seeker missions.

I’d join y’all for the victory party later, but without access to synthyroid equivalents, already target attritted. That idiot radiotherapy was the last time I would ever trust a specialist “doctor.”

Good fortune to all and great luck for those avenging lost friends, lost family, and a lost Constitutional Republic, you last of modern native Americans!

Anonymous
Anonymous
  World War Zeke
June 29, 2022 5:05 am

you should look into the work of theodor kocher, a swiss surgeon of the 19th century, who had done a lot of pioneering work on thyroid conditions.
Until synthetic thyroxine was readily available around WW1 era, thyroid problems were addresses quite differently. Full removal was very rare. kocher actually learned a lot because while full removal was a _goal_ in many treatments of goiters etc in the 19th cent, it was almost never _successfuly_ completely removed. Kocher being a siwss perfectionist did a better than usual job of removing the entire thyroid, and then also being a good doctor followed his patients for years. He finally learned that most patients recovered precisely because small bits of thyroid had been left behind, which grew back functioning thyroid tissue. Patients who had truly had the whole thing removed, developed serious hyothyroidism problems with the typical results – falling into a coma and often dying if they couldnt get animal thyroid extracts regularly. Those were usually prepared from the thyroid of a freshly slaughtered sheep, the preparation process was messy, dosage was widely variable from one batch to the next, and the stuff didnt keep more than a week or two. quite problematic… but it did keep people alive. Anyway kocher began experimenting with transplanting pieces of thyroid gland into patients who had had complete thyroid removal, and saw them recover with great success.
All of this was completely forgotten once synthetic thyroxine was available. dosage was easy to regulate, and the whole medical industry then emerging found it simpler to always remove everything and then backfill the problem with industrial drugs. Yes that makes the doc’s job easier.. but the patient becomes a lifelong dependent.
anyway.
kocher wrote some books. one was a general textbook on surgery, another describes his thyroid work. I think both were translated into english, otherwise youll have to read german.

ghost
ghost
June 28, 2022 8:32 pm

Drinking good bourbon, smoking good cigars,making love to my lovely wife and watching the greatest sh*t show on earth.

BL
BL
  ghost
June 28, 2022 11:08 pm

Say what Ghosty?

Anonymous
Anonymous
June 28, 2022 8:58 pm

Hard People
Hard Principles
Hard Assets

Stacking them broad and deep!

Anonymous
Anonymous
June 28, 2022 9:51 pm

Trying to learn a new skill.

Was never formally trained in the ability to read or write sheet music.

Starting to understand a bit, seeing these 2 things assembled together.

Click play on the vid, then read the other jpg. file as the boys harmonize.

~Talk about getting right with God.
Acceptance of things we cannot change or understand is a good starting point.

Adieu.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
June 28, 2022 9:53 pm

Ctr key and the + key are your friend to increase the size of small print,
as the Pergolator says.

p.s. Thanks, Ghost, for originally turning me on to Anthem Lights’ version.

Anonymous
Anonymous
June 28, 2022 10:05 pm

Alcohol Tobacco & Firearms
Storable food

ken31
ken31
June 28, 2022 10:10 pm

So many people equate “prepping” with hoarding. To me, preparedness is the ability to produce the necessities, not the hoarding of the necessities. You can’t live on stores you can not replenish. Not for very long, anyways.

I consider foraging guide books superior to buying a bunch of junk food you can store. I don’t want to live if I have to subsist on processed foods. Water filters and wells are good investments.

lamont cranston
lamont cranston
June 28, 2022 10:29 pm

We’ve made preps. Need one more. But…intend to have fun.

Drove 3 hrs. to Fernandina Beach. Drank a lot, then 5 hrs. to the Effie Sandestin for 3 days of a tax deductible trade association meeting. Then back to FB for two days of more fun before back home.

I’m not a computer guy, so don’t know how to post this pic we took, but the greatest billboard ever as at the intersection of FL A1A & US 17 in Yulee. It said-

“Dumb And Dumber” along the top. To the left “Let’s Go Brandon”. Then Joe & Kamala on the right wearing black tee-shirts with arrows pointing to each other saying “I’m With Stupid”.

Yes, Yulee has a sign telling you along A1A/FL200 that it’s the hometown of Derrick Henry.

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
June 28, 2022 10:38 pm

Well, I figured I better start getting my butt into shape. I’ve lost over 60 pounds since March 1st. That’s when I retired. I’m already looking for a new job. Might as well work until the day I die.

BL
BL
June 28, 2022 11:14 pm

If you are really properly prepared, you are waiting with anticipation of the greatest opportunities of your life. I you don’t understand that, you are not prepared for everything.

mileytheduchess
mileytheduchess
June 29, 2022 2:21 am

My MiL (92) says that she and a lot of other people were so poor, they didn’t even notice the depression. Everything is relative. If you live a simple life in an out-of-the-way place, you may not directly witness the burning times.

That said, I still think an EMP, or a series of them, may be the only thing to save this country.

mileytheduchess
mileytheduchess
  mileytheduchess
June 29, 2022 2:22 am

Killing the technocracy.