Via The Blue State Conservative
The rapid progress towards a second Civil War
Today we are living in a country that is socially disintegrating. There are outside influences that are priming the pump towards the major schism.
What were the sources of our Civil War? The first and foremost cause was money as always. The earliest indications were the attempts at nullification in the 1830’s. Government is drawn to the money like a bee to honey. The South was incredibly wealthy and was easily taxed through an import-export tariff regime. The farmers both small and large wanted to keep their profits which is a shocking concept of course.
The holier than thou puritans of the era, the anti-slave crowd, again began to grow in New England. The slave question provided a self aggrandizing perch from which to seek attention for their habitual purpose of control of society. Today our betters use any and every foothold to attempt to gain control. Global warming failed and continues to fail even at the point of a gun in Canada and Holland and Germany. The Chinese flu scam has run its; course as well. The concept of control is obviously the same as 170 years ago.
The second rate Northern seminarians of that era in the Christian church began to broadcast their new attempts at social control through newspapers and freedom societies. The pathetic maneuverings of these people are/were rather easily ruined by the spotlight on the source of funding. For the seminaries, it was slavery of course! The shipping companies and banking industry relied on the slave south for their income. This lead to their foundations receiving marvelous donations dependent on the slavery system that they allegedly abhorred. Today we have the bankers and communists behind the curtain pulling strings.
That is quite similar to today when the doughnut porkers scream, march and then run home to daddy’s checkbook for respite from a hard days whining. The security walls at their homes and special dispensations for their criminal actions from the justice system do not appear to enter the hypocritical equations by which they operate. “You will own nothing but you will be happy.” Sounds like slavery or indentured servitude to me. Very little has changed since Diocletian decreed servitude was required to your lord or master.
The southern plantation was a functional model of a socialist state. The slaves worked and were paid through food and shelter. They were allowed to keep some of the outside money they earned. The socialist plantation was operated by the elite and the help had to do as they were told. It sounds like the Nazis, I mean the WEF. The corporate state is operated in the same fashion except that there are no sufficient old age pensions as there were on southern plantations. Today you just get the boot through downsizing. The elite just throw a few coins out the window of their Tesla and drive on. (Charles Dickens) my hero!
The original breakup of our country was because there were two completely opposing views of what our society should be. The South wished to be left alone and not be browbeaten and pay for another groups’ morality. The politicians knew of no other source of funds to run the country than the cotton crop. Tempers rose astronomically with new laws and decrees until cooler heads had no chance at the table. This schism was unavoidable as more hysteria built up. There was only the wait for the spark. Then Mr. Lincoln arrived. Mr. Joe Bribe’em may be the harbinger of doom.
Today we have decrees in Europe for mandatory shots, hate speech jail terms and personal electronic IDs. A medical passport is required for shopping in some areas. What is the difference between 1860 and the nirvana of the clowns that is on our horizon? The only difference I see is the size of the plantations as they now include entire countries. As Klaus Schwab would say ”daddy was a Nazi Socialist, why can’t I be”?
The Madame
It is my sincere desire to provide readers of this site with the best unbiased information available, and a forum where it can be discussed openly, as our Founders intended. But it is not easy nor inexpensive to do so, especially when those who wish to prevent us from making the truth known, attack us without mercy on all fronts on a daily basis. So each time you visit the site, I would ask that you consider the value that you receive and have received from The Burning Platform and the community of which you are a vital part. I can't do it all alone, and I need your help and support to keep it alive. Please consider contributing an amount commensurate to the value that you receive from this site and community, or even by becoming a sustaining supporter through periodic contributions. [Burning Platform LLC - PO Box 1520 Kulpsville, PA 19443] or Paypal
-----------------------------------------------------
To donate via Stripe, click here.
-----------------------------------------------------
Use promo code ILMF2, and save up to 66% on all MyPillow purchases. (The Burning Platform benefits when you use this promo code.)
The problem is, things are much different today. We have a government that arms pretty much every agency and further militarizes the police forces across the country. They also continue to impede on the 2nd Amendment and take away as many guns as they can from the law abiding (while the criminals are carrying them everywhere). They also control every aspect of our lives from the food supply, electrical grid, communications, etc (“us” being 99% of the country).
So if a Fort Sumter moment does occur, how long will it take their armed thugs to squash it? I think the coming conflict will be more of a chaotic everyone for themselves type of event. When the currency becomes useless and the food/water run out, people will resort to their instinctual means of survival and all hell will break loose. I don’t see some organized outfit declaring independence and starting a new country, at least not right away. The cities will be the worse place to be and out of control. The rural areas will band together as some of us already planned on. What happens from there is anyone’s guess. I do think the people pulling the strings of this collapse do have a plan however…
Winchester…That’s how I see it. The right has no leaders. A group of survival groups could band together and choose a county or regional leader…maybe. The left is very well organized and know what they’re doing insofar as destroying ‘murika and establishing a soviet/stalinist state.
In todays surveillance state, it is difficult to band together without a few FIB infiltrators leading the way. They do not care about the leftist movement as they are directing them.
Hey TN –
I know you meant FBI, but wondering if you know that FIB is an acronym in any state that borders Chicagoland (so, Wisconsin and Indiana, in particular, but also Michigan, Minnesota and Iowa):
Fucking Illinois Bastards – FIBs. Most people in those states will be familiar with the acronym because…
The people that exit chicagoland for vacation are the BIGGEST ELITIST NARCISSITIC ASSHOLES IN THE WORLD.
We ate at a local burger joint with my kids after a long day of their sports events several years back. A van of people came in. After 2 minutes I told my wife, “those people are from Illinois”. I could tell by the way they talked and what they talked about. They talked like entitled elistists and mostly about themselves.
Sure enough, as the van pulled away: Illinois plates.
There is a mental sickness in chicagoland – just like other big cities. Maybe Calhoun was onto something when he did his overcrowding of rats experiments. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_sink)
Does this sound familiar to anyone:
We already reached the “600th day”.
Some got there much quicker than others. Some, living outside of cities, never got there at all and now, cannot for the life of them, understand the behaviors being exhibited. They correlate these behaviors with (most likely) incorrect causation like, “Democrats”. Democrats, and their behavior among other politicos, is potentially another symptom of overcrowding (not saying the little commie bastards aren’t evil – just wondering if the evil at todays intensity is a symptom of severe overcrowding in large cities, in particular).
In the 50’s NYC had people stacked on top of people and you did not see the evil you see today because everyone was trying to make a living and take care of their family. Today, they rely on the givernment to provide a place to stay, EBT, medicaid, headstart and anything else they think will get the poor to vote for them. People have become dependent on government and have totally lost any moral compass that was once an integral part of their ancestors.
An astute observation.
Maybe that confirms what the experiment purports to show. Namely, overcrowding in combination with providing the overcrowded with near effortless resources in quantities (including safety/defense) equivalent to meeting “basic-needs” (or more), produces the “abnormal behaviors” exhibited.
It may also be that the timeline was longer for humans than mice and the 50’s represented the earlier days of the experiment (before it would be possible to understand what would transpire). And now, we are near or past, our “600th day” in most major cities and it has become manifest physically for all to behold.
Or maybe it’s just a correlation and my speculation is completely off course…and some people are just mean, evil sons a bitches whose tyrannical endeavors are never quenched, overcrowding or not.
Your speculation could well be true. We have one demographic that seems to support your theory.
We do, indeed, have a glaring example and correlation that can only be missed, at this point in time, by intentionally avoiding reality.
For progs/dems, Calhoun’s experiments are surely seen the same way as they would see 1984 by Orwell: TRAINING MANUAL.
Calhoun began experiments in 1947. By the 1960’s he would have had data to indicate, at minimum, the potential for Behavioral Sinks (prior to the rat/mice utopia experiments). That data had been getting shared in academia (and therefore politically) for a decade or more.
As with any “new” idea…it is a simple matter of numbers before the wrong Psycho-Criminal-In-Charge sees it and says, “Wow. I should weaponize that.”
And, lo and behold, along comes The Great Society less than 20 years after Calhoun began. It’s just Calhouns research, weaponized, and in disguise.
Crowding alone won’t do it. It has to be crowded and provide free food, shelter and basics. Now you’ve got the SNAFU you wanted and need for control.
“It was done on purpose”, should be the default assumption.
Great exchange of thoughts here.
I appreciate it – TN and Vigilant (and anyone else that wants to chime in).
It’s probably both. Lack of predators and abundant resources can cause destructive behaviors, as well as the people who are just plain selfish and evil, who are destroyers instead of builders.
J&G, I was thinking the same thing while examining the image of the 2020 election results by county that Stucky posted on another thread. Something about living in or near large cities messes up how people think and behave. Love for your fellow human beings goes out the window.
Thanks Vigilant.
People in a bucket will act like…people in a bucket.
Any country boy can see it without ever being told.
Personal space is greater than an imaginary 3’x3′ bubble or some nonsense.
And, idle hands and all….nothing good comes from most idle hands.
Again, it sure seems like this (Great Society/Free Stuff) was done on purpose with a good idea of what was going to happen in “Democrat Shitholes”.
Irish Democracy. Many of us trace our lineage to the Scots-Irish that shed blood to for the American Experiment.
Scots are shite eating Presbyterian, ass humping dogs and should be pushed back into Scotland , forever.
An non-opinionated Bonnie lASS, if i eva dun seed wun.
Anonymous Conservative posted this today….
It looks like the Biden administration has ordered FBI to create a federal database of all concealed weapons permit holders following the Supreme Court ruling, and the FBI is showing up at local law enforcement headquarters to pull the data under the guise of an “Audit.” We only know about Missouri because they have an explicit ban on sharing the info, and the State AG made a stink n publicly. They will be doing this in every state, and probably targeting everyone on the lists for a federal criminal charge of some sort here and there to take away their right to carry, citizen by citizen. Each office will get the list, and a quota of permit holders with the wrong psychology in the surveillance files to charge, and they will send out a little surveillance. If you use some herbicide on your lawn off Ebay that you don’t know is banned by EPA, or if you bought some herbal remedy on Amazon that is a no-no with FDA, suddenly there is a team at your door with a warrant, and there goes your permit and your guns – all parallel constructed, of course. And they will let you plead to a lesser felony with no time, but that will mean no more 2nd Amendment for you. They are not giving up on that battle, and there is more than one way to skin a cat.
Negative Neds like you are causing BL’s vagina to bleed. If you keep this up he will bleed completely out, very soon.
JUST STOP!!!
It should at least get “Putin it where it counts” to say something negative.
BL?? YOU are perpetually on the “raggin’ train” Flash, don’t poke BL in the eye.
Spot on, Winchester. IF any kind of opposition leader were to appear, he would immediately become a target of the system. Look what they did to Trump and he was not advocating dissolving the union. It will be nothing but small groups fighting with guerilla style attacks. Nothing coordinated, but enough to keep TPTB guessing where they will hit next while they try to put out the brushfires in the cities and near their homes.
>>>What happens from there is anyone’s guess.
I have no EOTWAWKI crystal ball, but one thing you can bet on: as long as any semi-functional “national government” remains, they aren’t going to just stand pat as urban areas (and their supporters) starve, and rural areas continue to grow food and eat stored provisions.
Ask the Kulaks.
Everybody and their mother is talking about civil war these days. Of course, this means it won’t happen.
Oh, you can rest assured war is coming.
If I was going to holdout for anything, it would be a revolution. Civil war is keyboard warrior talk, ain’t gonna happen. America will most likely die with a whimper, not a bang.
What is this ‘ second civil war’ eejits incessantly harp on ? When was the first?
I’ll bet Wide Ass can tell us.
Ha! Now that is funny – especially after reading a bunch of Wide Ass comments.
Man, you are on fire and bringing it today Flash!
Feckin Eejit – I am going to have to remember that one. Hopefully, it is something the censors will not catch.
For the young’uns. Location is everything.
Stupid Liberal Useless Idiots can’t stand the sight of us Conservatives and the violent bullies want us dead; when they finally cause TSHTF, they will have the government (ie, be SOOL) and we will be in a Catbird Seat. It will be like the mice trying to take the Cat’s dinner. Just more Long-pork for our Larder.
Long pork is polluted with mRNA.
Render it for fuel and fertilizer.
True, it contains mRNAs and STDs so in a food emergency, cook it well and let normal digestion do it’s job; one exception, Prions can’t be cooked to be safely eaten (need a microscope and diagnostic training to suppose it might be safe); Prions make take years to decompose in compost.
So use any central nervous system tissue that come to hand to fertilize your rhododendrons.
At some point, the masses will begin to understand that all of the misery they are beginning to experience is the fault of the liberals and their communist agenda. At that point there will be retribution against the liberals, and that retribution will be characterized as genocide by the UN and various OWG organizations. That will in turn, justify the use of UN/ US troops against the people of the United States.
After a bloody conflict, the US will be broken up and put under UN rule. If you want to see the template for what is now happening study what happened to Yugoslavia, and you will see the exact same things happened there, before the UN war against the people of Yugoslavia.
Before the One World Government can be established, the US has to be destroyed as the world Super Power. We are in the process of that happening now.
Bear in mind that the UN’s enforcers in the Balkans were the FUSA and assorted NATO lackeys.
There will be plenty of hard times in the FUSA, but I doubt “blue helmets” will be playing much of a role.
Pretty good article overall, however I would take issue with this closing conclusion, which is a fractured fairy tale that has been heavily promoted,but would make almost no factual sense to the people of the time.
The ‘South’, and to a certain notable degree even areas of New England, consisted of not only the plantation Coastal populations, but also of an almost completely separate people -‘Westerners’- who one poster alludes to when he notes the Scots-Irish. The rate of slave ownership among ‘Westerners’ was miniscule, and even then largely confined to a very small monied elite.
The ‘Westerners’ are the people who largely brought the Revolutionary War to a rapid conclusion, once they had entered the fight, and who were eagerly sought after as Militia during the war because of a well-recognized fighting – and self-organizational – superiority.
A really good point made by the article author near the beginning of the article is how money/profit corrupts and contaminates any attempt at just social organization. I would add that this factor is unavoidable, unless carefully designed provisions are made to detach personal profit from those seeking to fill the role of a public official.
This is not some interpretation I am constructing at random – My own ancestor was effectively a ward of Col William Preston for most of his youth for reasons related to the aftermath of French and Indian Wars, and he follows Preston and Col. Campbell into the Virginia Militia force that fights in the Battle of Guilford Courthouse. This Va. militia force not only fights to a standstill against the highly trained Hessian forces at the battle, and deflects attacks by Tarleton’s Legion, but they paid their own expenses to get to the battle, paid local Mennonites to care for their wounded, and contributed resources they personally owned (horses) to the regular troops under Greene, prior to the battle.
The most notable aspect of this time and this people, was that if you wanted to open your mouth and support war or a military expedition, EVERYONE was expected to show up for muster and put their own physical safety on the line amongst these ‘Westerners’. If you did not go off to fight, you were deemed a coward. Col. Preston was literally in charge of the entire Virginia war funding disbursement in the West, and was corresponding directly with Jefferson and the Continental Congress, but even he was expected to march out and lead the fight from the front lines. Preston marched off and slept on the ground like everyone else, when danger was near.
What we had in the North and the Plantation South were schemers who wanted to control the financial system and govt that would be implemented post-war, and who spent the war in financial enclaves, while griping about the monetary contributions and provisions that they should be required to make to the effort.
Contrast this with the Westerners, who not only destroy what are effectively the ‘special forces’ units of the British / Hessian expeditions, but make sure to compensate the local non-combatants who took care of their wounded. In a conflict environment, Preston / Campbell could have simply demanded the food and shelter for their wounded, and the unarmed Mennonites would have complied, but they did the right thing, both personally and socially.
The goal of the Westerners was to be left alone to deal justly within their own culture and society, that had a very marginal relationship to either the Plantation South or the Mercantile North. The monetary self-interests of these Plantation / Mercantilists, who did not plan to either manufacture goods themselves or pick their own cotton or food, but to use others as low-cost chattel, soon corrupted everything that they came into contact with.
The Westerners, to the contrary, had a society in which the common person grew their own food, built their own home, raised their own animals, and helped their neighbors in time of need.
It does a grave disservice to lump the ‘Westerners’ of that time in with the already plotting factions controlling the Plantation South or the Mercantile North, when this was a totally distinct faction of the population at the time, acting as a unified people, who brought about the outcome that the other two factions could not accomplish.
If we still maintained the ‘Westerner’ standards of that time, in which the financial elites were expected to be on the front lines of any fight they decided was necessary, rifle in hand, American history, and its leadership would have been decidedly different.
You will never gain just govt from those who are slightly unjust (mercantilists /slavers), because similar to the principle of land navigation, when you start a journey only a couple degrees off-bearing, each mile you travel without correction will lead you more off course, which we see everyday now, around us..
I hear that The Fearsome Hessians were mostly drunkard second-stringers (considered inadequate for combat in Europe), sent off for hired work in America, so some productive gain might be gotten out of their semi-worthless carcasses.
My apologies to any residents of Hesse.
I do not advocate violence but just comment about the effectiveness of tactics and strategies. Don’t join militias or any organize resistance. pick a guy supporting the enemy and attack him from behind and kill him. Repeat.
It is a target rich environment. Queers,niggers mohammedans ,illegal immigrants for starters. Anybody who takes a position supporting any of these groups. College professors in virtually any “studies” program.
And almost anyone who appears on broadcast news*.
* local sports and weather, not so much