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Fake? Nonsense, it is all on the level.
Check is in the mail.
I love you.
No need to go on.
Let’s not forget the granddaddy of all “As Seen on TV” fakes.
This wasn’t faked.
Feels a bit like Alzheimer’s to me…and I’m sure that is the excuse others are giving for his response. But then Alzheimer’s destroyed my mom’s “gatekeeper” mechanism and she would blurt out shit as she felt, so likely this is also his brain finally working its way past the MKUltra programming. Never seen this…thanks.
This has nothing to do with the moon landing fakery. You are falsely associating people who call out .gov bullshit with those who think the earth is flat. It’s poison the well 101.
I can even believe they had some kind of successful Apollo missions, but still faked the A/V.
They made it look fake on purpose, prove me wrong.
For what motive?
Hubris
Excessive pride, presumption or arrogance (originally toward the gods).
Yes, they have to show the actual truth as part of their ritual.
Nailed it. right there. Sidgil (sp?) black magik.
Sigil
For the same reason vampires need your permission before entering your home.
And to just think, Unkle Shmuel just hired another 87K armed vamps for your Eye-R-Ess contributions.
I agree, everything is right out in the open, the moon landing, 9/11, billions to zombie corporations, wars, hillory, Epstein, hunter, the big guy, covid, bill gates, vaccines, boosters, fauci, Ivermectin, etc etc etc, for what motive?
Who knows but it’s in the faces of all open minded people.
Only one error here. ‘It’ is spelled .. hitlery
I prefer spelling it Hildabeast
always has been, always will be.
Americans can never tell fake from real. CBS and the U.S. Navy used to get hundreds of letters every month urging them to save those poor people stranded on a island in the Pacific. You know those people… Gilligan, the Skipper, Ginger, Mary Ann……
They could have released a video of a Marta bus flying into the side of the building and some people would have believed it really happened.
Well, definitely save Mary Ann.
Take a 50 times converted / scaled / “enhanced” version of an old video, and then prove something with it.
Seems legit.
Contrast with https://www.zdnet.com/article/xerox-scanners-alter-numbers-in-scanned-documents/
No airline logos on the plane was the other obvious giveaway.
Incredible,there is also vid out there that shows an explosion and THEN the. THerMite burns an outline of an aircraft in the side of the building!! Don’t you just love having to resort to fooling your self editing phone?
Hence the spelling……..
My question then. What about the planes if they did not hit buildings? What happened to them? The flight numbers that were reported…was this investigated to find out if they were fabricated too? Was explosives used on the top floors where the planes supposedly hit the buildings as well as at the foundations so that the buildings would come down?
There were no buildings, just holograms.
(But I have to say it felt pretty real when I visited “The greatest bar of earth” in 1999.)
PS: oh Stucky was quicker.
Where did 370 go?
So the planes were CGI, yet the explosions and collapse were real.
People, numerous people, had to set that up in advance, that took planning and coordination.
Everybody involved in that have not said a word 21 years later?
How is that even possible?
Three people can keep a secret if two of them are dead.
That’s a trope that has proven itself worthless with repeated use over the years. It’s akin to don’t judge a book by its cover.
But you continue to believe whatever you like, it’s a fre…
Sorry, my bad.
…”don’t judge a book by it’s cover”… is almost as ridiculous as …”if you’re not part of the solution you’re part of the problem”…
You can also believe whatever you want and classify those that don’t share your vision of how the world operates as part of “the problem”.
Congratulations on your superior intelligence, morality and loyal following of sycophants.
Thanks.
I’m posting and promoting TBP on The Duran as See MO’ Bootheel today.
It is a cross platform posting experiment intended to pique the interest of a certain talented communicator who is embarking upon a Walkabout and could perhaps appreciate a bit of Ozark mountain humor from time to time.
I’m gonna borrow your monkey.
P.S. Only on TBP can someone say “I’m gonna borrow your monkey” and it make perfect sense.
Oh, the book cover mal-alogy, again. Far more important is who covers the book. And most important of all is how much coverage does the coverer bring to covering the book? ☺
I read all Louis L’Amour’s westerns as a lad. Bantam paperbacks, most of them (there may have been other gunslinger-publishers, or those may have been other writers in the genre), that I bought new & kept that way, too.
Formulaic was ol’ LL, is “the western,” (mostly), but some were better than others I thought at the time.
One in particular stood out (tho title & particulars have not stood time’s test).
So I talked it up to someone who knew me & my book-fastidiousness ~ covers*&*pages ~ lent it to him to read, got it back with the spine broken & the cover defaced. Same book in terms of contents, but hand & shelf aesthetics gone. Book suffered no post traumatic spindling folding mutilating stress disorder, but I did. Book’s self esteem was intact. What a character.
Lesson learned: don’t lend books. (Later learned the same about tools. Or would that be other tools? Take care of your tools & they’ll take care of you. )
A different lesson, maybe: the prettiest people can be shall we put it under-served by the extra servings they got @conception? Like all the art went into the cover & so, effort expended & exhausted, the pages within got the dog-ears & underlining & highlighting ~ tattoos & piercings & freakshow deformities galore.
Yes; that’s it! It’s not a free anything.
And the free-floating notion that skynet is basically honest & can’t keep secret lies for long is the most expensive ~ not to mention conceited, rationalizing, cogdis, fundamental attribution erroneous(loch)ness monstrous(loch)(keyless)ness ∞∞∞ ~ (un)free lunch ever.
Number one fundamental with a bullet train full of bullets aspect of humanimal is deceit. And when peers reviewing you is liars too ….
It’s the secret compartments of truth that hardly ever see daylight … & are hardly ever not murdered by the compliciteamsters when they do. You ain’t never gonna find the Hoffa & the ones what know ain’t never gonna say & the ones that suspect prefer buttered bread, too, so shhhhh(it – I don’t care! Ka-ching-a-ding-a-ling!), ….
Sometimes a shortcut is, a cigar is. But not nearly so often as they are the long way home to a tobacco dildo.
“Nine out of ten doctors smoke Chesterfields.” “Hey, that’s my name(brand)! Chesterfield!” Sorry dildo, your name is “smoked.”
You too, bidenizen-citizen!
So I buy used, mostly, now. Can’t do biz with the Amazonian piranha-slash-candiru cigarbox cat/burgler/fish, have found other sources. I read the condition descriptions & sometimes they are accurate & sometimes they aren’t – cuz deceit knows it won’t be worth my effort to return that smell to Denmark for a refund. (I got a book once that could have come from coco chanel’s charnel house of completely natural & honest scents. Ebay seller. Nope. Her books don’t stink {especially now that I have it & she doesn’t}. No return accepted or refund offered.)
That’s the truth that’s out there, hiding in plain sight, just as big & loud as a 757 buzzing your House, doc. The big lies work ~ emergent style ~ because of all the little pants afire liars.
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Best line from a TV series/and or movie ever!
Too many people were already looking up when the 2nd plane came. This is a fake video.
My experience is it is more common than you think.
It’s called compartmentalization. Grunts don’t receive the overall plan, just their small part. People did come forward, ever hear about censorship?
Oh…okay.
…”we want you to place explosives on multiple floors of both World Trade Center towers”…
“derrrr…whatever, is there a vermin infestation?
…”we want YOU to coordinate linear explosions, simultaneous with the hologram of a commercial airliner hitting the target, there will be people in the building but no one will be in danger “….
…”coool, is this going to be in movie?”
That’s part of it. The other part is faith in the mission, and the other part is fear of spilling the beans and getting caught. There are secrets I will go to the grave with and they aren’t even close to this magnitude.
How many are still alive?
“People, numerous people, had to set that up in advance, that took planning and coordination. Everybody involved in that have not said a word 21 years later?”
they burned informers out of their culture centuries ago.
Idiotic assumption. Of course people can keep secrets, it happens all the time.
The entire American Revolution was a secret conspiracy.
Secret societies are as common in our society as McDonald’s. The Masons oath threatens anyone who does not keep the secrets of the organization with disembowelment.
D-day was a gigantic secret conspiracy that was kept secret successfully, by tens of thousands for many months. Every time a LEO murders an unarmed person or beats some poor soul into a coma due to steroid-rage, his fellow officers lie their asses off, even in court under oath to get him off.
Try to tell Cesar, there are no conspiracies, I think he would disagree.
The Mafia was famous for their ability to keep secrets. Punishment came by being shot several times in the mouth which was the sign for talking too much.
Weapons of Mass Destruction, Iran Contra, Gulf of Tonkin, My Lai massacre, Pentagon Papers, JFK/RFK, Watergate, Operation Northwoods, USS Liberty, how many obvious conspiracies does it take before people wise the fuck up?
People who do not admit the commonality of conspiracies and secrets in our world are simply idiots, that or they are being paid to gaslight their fellow citizens.
So, it took him HUNDREDS of hours to see that? BFD. It proves NOTHING.
You know who ELSE saw that video? MILLIONS of people. And I’m 100% certain that someone else would have seen that, and probably within days or hours. Damned fact, buster.
HF likes to post this kind of stuff because he enjoys STIRRING SHIT. Damned fact, buster.
Maybe I’m naive. It could be done. Just tell workers that the elevators are gonna have maintenance for the next couple of weekends. Then the servers are gonna be migrated. In the first instance people might be able to work from home. In the second instance, no access at all. The nefarious can be nefarious. When employees return, the elevators will still be shitty because no work was done to improve them. People will grumble because only four of the sixteen elevators are working, but hey that’s BAU.
Edit…my mind is used to going to the very worst place. Decades of training.
But, but . . . (start at 2:00 mark):
Doesn’t look fake to me, but what do I know?
Airplane wings disappear all the time, Man!
Interesting that prior to 9/11 airplanes did hit high rise buildings at which time NONE collapsed and the planes fractured into pieces and parts fell to the streets below. This is the only instance of disappearing plane(s) and collapsing buildings. Really interesting…..
Not saying or agreeing that the 9/11 narrative, official version, is correct but some things to consider. Previous planes strikes weren’t as big and planes were probably a tad more fragile. So I don’t think thats a valid argument.
A bird hitting the nose (or wing) of commercial jet will damage it to the point where it could crash.
Have you ever seen a controlled crash? When a vehicle hits a solid object, the front of the vehicle slows faster than the rear of the vehicle. The result is either it bends in the middle or the rear breaks off.
When it comes to planes because they are basically thin aluminum tubes with wings and a tail, the first thing to break off is the tail, followed by the wings. It is a physical impossibility for the plane to enter the building in tact as the footage shows.
125 tons travelling at 400 mph has a force impact of how many Newtons?
You really think lightweight thin aluminum can penetrate steel beems and sold concrete? Since you appear to be inebreated anyway take your beer can out in the garage and try to shove it through your car hood and then come back and tell us how it worked.
it was flying more like 500 mph. about 50 MN.
You are an idiot. Go study physics, like you were supposed to do in high school, and then you will understand.
My theory all along has been the planes were crashed (remote controlled?) as a distraction from the controlled demolition explosions. Everyone except the firemen focused on the plane impact way up high and ignored the detonations taking place at the base of the structures. Unlike CSI’s Grissom, this was the one case they wanted everybody to look up.
And then there’s ol’ Building 7. Never forget WTC 7.
That building looks like the Deutsche bank building which was actually south of the towers not north.
I saw an even more amazing video just the other day and I was in the middle of composing a new post …. when the video suddenly disappeared!! …. never to be seen again. The powerful forces controlling information are more powerful than I imagined.
Anyway, I will tell you the Bottom Line what the video proved beyond a shadow of a doubt ….. There NEVER WERE TWO TOWERS in the first place!!!! Those two “towers” were nothing but a hologram from the get go!
Chew on that, bitchezz.
Did you ever watch the series “Fringe?” Yup, this is fact.
What is at play here is an artifact of compression/decompression software that is used to transmit video data when the band width is not capable of transmitting the raw data of the video. What happens is the software will analyze each frame and determine what is not changing and what is changing (motion) and will not continue to transmit the non-motion sections and only transmit the areas of change. The software doesn’t always get it right and you get the effect that something disappears. This is also the explanation as to why in the Christchurch mosque shooting in New Zealand it looks like the shell casings that are ejected out of the rifle appear to disappear in midair.
Someone gets it.
Was it filmed digitally or in analog?
In 2001, probably analog and the error came when transferred over to digital.
One of the ways that analog will forever be superior to digital.
Let’s go to the video tape.
Very interesting.
I ran into this a few years ago and watched the whole thing – over 2 hours long, but it was worth it……
There it is.
There what is?
What was god thinking watching this all go down?
The Judy Wood video.
I can only imagine how saddened God must be watching all this go down. He is longsuffering but justice will be served. His creation restored with those who choose Him.
If HSF said he didn’t believe that airplanes existed at all I wouldn’t be surprised at this point.
Just because there are conspiracies and bad science and lies and false flags in the world don’t mean you have to go full retard on everything. It’s one thing to be believe silly shit but it’s another fuck with other people’s heads.
HSF thinks the world is flat, so there’s that.
Incorrect. I don’t believe it is a globe with a diameter of 8,000 miles spinning at 1,000 mph.
It’s a hologram.
20 REASONS WHY YOU SHOULD BELIEVE THE EARTH IS FLAT
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1. God’s Flat Earth Truth And Reality.
If the earth is flat (which it is not) on flat ground you would be able to see as far as your eyesight
is capable of.
Assuming no atmospheric refraction and a spherical Earth with radius R=6,371 kilometres (3,959 mi): For an observer standing on the ground with h = 1.70 metres (5 ft 7 in), the horizon is at a distance of 4.7 kilometres (2.9 mi).
I believe all the Bible quotes, but all of those other questions are answerable with undergrad level physics in a way that flat Earth can not do. However, I am with HSF in that the only things I can know for sure about the physical realm are the ones I experience.
Check it out ken,
GOD’S BIBLICAL FLAT EARTH
http://bibleflatearth.com/
Check this out too ken
https://creation.com/isaiah-40-22-circle-sphere
Troy, Troy, Troy,
This is thin watery gruel over one word in one verse compared to the feast of scripture in my link…just saying Brother.
Yo,
I haven’t used Proton in so long I think it lasped. Didn’t see it.
Sent Admin my other e-mail to forward it to you if you contact him.
seemobootheel@gmail
I lost track of my proton password too
if you get in touch, I’ll try to find that old email discussion line EC and I had about you one time. He liked you and so did MC when she was wearly that lovely green blouse (I really liked the way you put that) at the first picnic. Just before everything went slightly awry for many of us.
And, now, it is all awry. It’s peaceful here. You might get to visit the treestand house.
It is NOT for sale.
Arch- I hear Mags makes a killer “rabbit in a jar” dinner with all the trimmings. Maybe getting out of Boston would clear your head. I could meet you guys in Paducah and buy dinner one night.
BL,
I have been posting in support of it for years on TBP, probably started around 2018.
I have been posting about all the other lies here since 2015: the FED, The Kennedy hit, the Tolkien Gulf FF, all the other FF’s. 911, the moon landing that never happened, the names of the Committee of 300, Chemtrails, DEW weapons being used on people sleeping in their homes, Bio Weapons in needles posing as vaccines, etc. etc. etc.
I avoided Flat Earth for many years…I think the main Flat Earth group has been set up by the enemy as they put in some truth…then mix in in obvious falsehoods…so it is basically a controlled opposition group to discourage people who start doing their own research…and assume through that distraction (a type of Q OPS) it is a false theory with loons leading the charge.
Once I read ‘Confusion in the Cosmos’ (three times) and developed an e-mail discussion with the author I became convinced the globe (and all it implies to discredit God as the Creator) was a foundational lie.
I prayed about it for a long time. Scripture convinced me the globe/NASA is one of the greatest deceptions ever pulled off.
But, that is changing.
GOD’S BIBLICAL FLAT EARTH
http://bibleflatearth.com/
(When I put all these memes up to support HSF I told Admin they would start a good fight).
Of course they are lying about going to mars and the moon. That’s does NOT support a flat earth.
If you think the lies stop there…try this. Besides interconnected scripture it goes deep into the science.
“A scriptural review of Cosmology and Deception unlike anything you’ve ever read. Do you struggle with the complexity of a Most-High Creator, Angels, Demons, Earth and Space?
This book will be an eye-opener by enhancing your worldview regarding our true Cosmology and the things that are intentionally hidden from us today. We will rebuild the Cosmos as described from all Biblical references describing the Creation of the Universe, and reveal a new understanding of how it all comes to an end. A great book for the curious and anyone interested in learning the misunderstood aspects of the Bible and other ancient texts”!
“…goes deep into science…”
“…rebuild the cosmos as described from all biblical references…”
Get a life and/or help.
Get a name Confused No Name…and then we can debate.
Mark- Are you a recent convert? I never realized you were a FE guy. 🙂
Very nice presentation , HF is giving a nod of approval I’m sure.
BL here.
BL,
I have been posting in support of it for years on TBP, probably started around 2018.
I have been posting about all the other lies here since 2015: the FED, The Kennedy hit, the Tolkien Gulf FF, all the other FF’s. 911, the moon landing that never happened, the names of the Committee of 300, Chemtrails, DEW weapons being used on people sleeping in their homes, Bio Weapons in needles posing as vaccines, etc. etc. etc.
I avoided Flat Earth for many years…I think the main Flat Earth group has been set up by the enemy as they put in some truth…then mix in in obvious falsehoods…so it is basically a controlled opposition group to discourage people who start doing their own research…and assume through that distraction (a type of Q OPS) it is a false theory with loons leading the charge.
Once I read ‘Confusion in the Cosmos’ (three times) and developed an e-mail discussion with the author (who sent me three free copies of the book) I became convinced the globe (and all it implies to discredit God as the Creator) was a foundational lie.
I prayed about it for a long time. Scripture convinced me it is one of the greatest deceptions ever pulled off.
GOD’S BIBLICAL FLAT EARTH
http://bibleflatearth.com/
(When I put all these memes up to support HSF I told Admin they would start a good fight).
I guess you missed the one where the JIDF admitted that flat earth was a psyop for the stupid.
lol
Good luck to ya.
It was a psyop but for a lot of people it’s just a troll.
“Satanic Freemsn” ?? LOL
“instability anxiety sex 666”
looks like projection, dude.
Please explore the math-heavy topics of Geodesy and Open Ocean Navigation. Especially pay attention to Mercator Projections upon various Geoid models used to mimic the non-symmetrical OBLATE SPHEROID planet earth which all Geodesists employ for their calculations.
Proponents of the Flat Earth all tend to have zero mathematical arguments for their interpretation, whereas Geodesists and Open Ocean Navigators and even we lowly Offshore Surveyors might have a bit of mathematical joy associated with the true insight as to how the Greeks determined the rough shape and diameter of our planet… with just fucking shadows and an understanding of trigonometry.
Maff geeks like me and my friends revel in truly reliving these amazing discoveries… that lay people are convincing themselves have been massive coverups perpetuated by evil people. Man, we just want to navigate our 200-foot survey vessel from Point A to Point B, and you’re trying to tell us that we are navigating on a flat planet? Get out of town with your weak arguments. Images and personal observations are non-starters for a genuine debate here.
Ask a Railroad Design Engineer about 1-percent grades and how they look flat to the unaided eye. Ask about Railroad Curve Equations and how a very slight curved rail line can appear to be straight to the naked eye.
Ask a ship’s navigator about the curved horizon and how a ship’s mast is always the very first thing to appear on the horizon.
“Aks” me about navigating on the open ocean for multiple clients over 20 years as a civilian offshore surveyor between continents using a Nautical Chart (Mercator Projection, of course) to actually navigate over several thousand nautical miles to our planned destination… using GPS satellite raw data (back in the days of Selective Availability, 300 feet accuracy is good enough for along-track fixes.)
We also had the luxury, from time to time, of having satellite corrections applied to our positional fixes in Real Time as a subscription service that was available to us on a geostationary satellite that we had to keep tracking with our massive transceiver dish… to give us 3- to 10-centimeter accuracy… a requirement for many high-density sonar jobs.
GPS does, in fact, work at sea far, far away from land. Ask a ship’s navigator, for crying out loud.
Satellites do, in fact, exist, as I have aimed many gyroscopically stabilized uplink/downlink LMA/LMB dishes (sometimes having to climb into the radome while underway!) on land and at sea at areas in the sky that provide the exact data expected.
What kind of hoax are you proposing has been executed on humanity with the “Flat Earth” concern warrior rage you seem to propagate?
The Big Bang model of our universe is the hoax I would like to see better exposed.
See THUNDERBOLTS.INFO for a realistic approach to our place here in the universe, and see how Biblical accounts are easily explained as real… because our solar system hasn’t always been so serene.
But, I’m just a newbie commenter here, so, GATOR BAIT I may be…
edit: for readability (paragraph breaks)
Of course I believe that airplanes exist, I used to jump out of them all the time.
I don’t believe those particular airplanes took down the WTC complex and the Pentagon.
HTH
Please tell me what’s fake about thousands of innocent people dying & the fact that evil people committed this atrocity? Isn’t this really the bottom line here?
Does it matter what side of the line those evil people are on? We all know those in power are evil and commit crimes everyday.
How will knowing the details of 9/11, or JFK, or the moon landing, or even if the earth is flat (which is absurd) change your life? Or is this just a fun hobby? If so, then don’t let me rain on your parade.
We had a big thunderstorm roll through just after dark last night. I was with two of my children watching it and you know, after more than six decades of seeing them, I couldn’t help but notice it and talk about it.
Some things bear repeating, especially when they are beyond our ability to fully understand or comprehend.
Call me a hobbyist.
Ok, got it. 🙂
That didn’t last long.
Kayaking, dogs, nature, meditation, pulling weeds, etc.
You’re in my thoughts & I’m praying for you.
Ok, understood.
Glad you are still here Arch.
Why so angry, can I help?
I’m somewhere close enough to be on your dance list during the walkabout.
He said he would come visit and asked for the nearest airport. So why not tell him which one is closest?
That could be pure reason & purrr-eason. Spock had those cat ears, too.
Where the Vulcanized rubbe/a/r meets the road its: resilient, elastic, harder, stronger, firmer.
Ohhh, baby.
“The asterisk in the title refers to the asterisk attached to the records of athletes who are implicated in using performance-enhancing drugs. The title itself refers to the Olympic motto: “Faster, higher, stronger”, also a play on WWE’s WrestleMania III theme “Bigger, Better, Badder”. The tagline also evokes the lines of the opening sequence of The Six Million Dollar Man, “Better, Stronger, Faster.”[citation needed]”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigger%2C_Stronger%2C_Faster%2A
Asterisk, earsterisk, lets call the whole thing off. Watching this docu you can see how tired, & wheels coming off, brother Mike “Mad Dog” Bell mean regresses due more than anything else to his formative years hearing aids (Arnold, Sylvester, Hulk … performance enhancing drug pushers, iow). By docu end the sense is he has a ways to go before he gets those toons out of his head (if he ever does) & his tired treads retreaded (if he ever does).
When I was a kid the zed’s dead retread litter was all over the road shoulders, too. Tired tires should be replaced. Nuthin lasts forever but the road.
I hope you find peace, but I know what you mean.
That makes sense.
Thank you, Archie. 🙂
Because the same folks (group/organization/cabal) that is behind one has been behind them all. If nobody bothers to care about the truth, they won’t see the next one coming, and will believe that it too was a aberration.
Looks like we need to put out some “Help Wanted” ads for conspiracy theorists, because not enough work has been done over the long years to get folks to see the truth about what our government has been up to last 2 years. Maybe by the next pandemic tho’…
Before “meta” was “our.” Put that lens in front of just about anything, & certainly soporifics like gov, & its sweet dreams & nightmares.
We’re off to see the wizard, the wonderful wizard of O(ur)z. we hear he is a whiz of a wiz if ever a wiz there was “because-because-because” because of the wonderful things he does ….
Our house is a very, very, very fine house with two cats in the yard
Life used to be so hard
Now everything is easy ’cause of you and our—
La, la, la ~ CSN&Y
Our house, in the middle of our street
Our house, in the middle of our
Our house it has a crowd
There’s always something happening
And it’s usually quite loud
Our mum she’s so house-proud
Nothing ever slows her down
And a mess is not allowed…
Our house, in the middle of our street
(Something tells you)
(That you’ve got to get away from it)
Our house, in the middle of our…
I remember way back then when
Everything was true and when
We would have such a very good time
Such a fine time
Such a happy time
And I remember how we’d play
Simply waste the day away
Then we’d say
Nothing would come between us
Two dreamers … ~ Madness ::
Yes, indeed.
When the vast majority of the people believe the government is honest and tells the truth, then that allows government to commit terrible human atrocities like killing a million innocent people in Vietnam over a lie we were attacked in the Tonkin Gulf. It allows them to kill hundreds of thousands in lies about WMD’s or fake pandemics and poison vaccines. The way to stop government crimes against humanity is to stop believing them, and the way to show they are lying is to know the details of what really happened.
So…almost 60 years since JFK & 21 years since 9/11…and in all that time we couldn’t stop the government from this massive psyop that we’ve been living in for the past two years??
Y’all conspiracy theorists might want to put in some extra overtime hours…just sayin’.
`The reason they get away with this shit is because the majority of the population believe the lies. If they had to face the truth that the government lies to them all the time about everything, they would have complete melt downs and be unable to cope.
They get away with this shit because the got a way with this shit & so gotta’ weigh this shit & sell it, by the ounce & pound, to bid high adios/hitizens.
There is only ONE force on the planet that is powerful enough to convert hundreds of millions of tons of concrete, steel girders, and aluminum siding to DUST in Eight Seconds, leaving melted steel girders in the pit where the building stood. Also, blow out the windows in Bldg. 7, and set the interior on fire. Also, melt the paint and tires off several cars and fire trucks a couple of blocks away. Easy guess.
The massive serious effort to plant the explosives and wiring necessary to drop building Seven in its tracks on command, (per Lucky Larry Silverstein, the owner), would take hundreds of man hours and unlimited access to the building for a few weeks.
Wow! Somebody else gets it.
Ursel- They had an entire year, but it would take at least 4-6 weeks in a rush job without the timed simulation for the planes hitting the building/illusion thereof.
More Unanswered questions of great significance:
1. Plane that hit the pentagon left no wreckage, and the parking lot video caught the explosion indicating it was a missle SPECIFICALLY directed at a particular location to destroy evidence of huge money lost?
2. Plane that supposedly went down in Philadelphia left a trench in the dirt but no plane parts wreckage.
3. That plane and the one that supposedly hit the pentagon disappeared with passengers?
It was actually a small team of Mossad agents posing as art students, but they did have weeks and unlimited access.
Truth.
Bullshit you do not know a damn thing about building demolitions.
Fuck. You’re still here?
David Icke wrote an exhausting book that covered all. 911 the Trigger. Long, and it fill in all the points. He is on IMDB with a LS talk show talking about the book also. Loose Change was an early YouTube video about 911. So much was put on you tube before it got scrubbed. Sorta like Obama vs Keynes for senate run. He admits he wasn’t a citizen, and one didn’t need to be one to be president. That was scrubbed as he ran for president.
“layering cgi glitch”
thank you for this.
Nobody can hide God. We will believe when we get humble enough and round earth cannot effect that choice. Flat or round never hid anything from me.I will believe it’s flat and surrounded by a an ice wall when God almighty refuses to allow me to believe it round any longer, which he is always faithful to do when I remain humble.
Until someone presents me with sensible answers it will remain roundish. The surest key to something being Gods truth is it’s both sensible and understandable. I’m not refusing to accept it. I’m just being a Berean.
“Nobody can hide God”
(looking around ….)
flea,
the simplest way to know that earth is flat is that the cats of the world would knock everything off the edge–
don’t let these guys get you out into the weeds–
I was thinking maybe they’re in the weeds.
Mark is my buddy but we don’t always agree.
No biggie Flea, I avoided it for years…then got drug firmly into it after reading Confusion in the Cosmos.
Scripture is what convinced me.
Flea,
There was one video I saw (I think posted several months ago by HSF, IIRC) that used a telescope to view the buildings in Chitcongo from somewhere along the shore in Michigan (approx. a 60 mile distance). Of course you can’t see that with the naked eye, but with the telescope they demonstrated that they were visible. According to calculations based on the stated parameters (e.g. diameter) for spherical earth, the curvature over that 60 mile distance would make that impossible. I suppose that part of the video could be faked, but it would be pretty easy for anyone to test out if they really wanted to. I’m from Michigan originally, so I thought it was very interesting…
Fleabo & DS- I truly don’t know what is the actual shape of the Earth but I’m willing to consider the different possibilities. I fail to understand the reluctance. They have lied about everything else and there is a multitude of evidence that FE could be/is possible. Why not admit it is possible? If you take a deep dive you will in time see this in a different light.
B — yes, I agree that the enormity and ubiquity of lies leads me to try to consider everything; and also fully commit to nothing unless/until a sufficient amount of evidence and facts are observed. Logic, deduction, and extrapolation can also tilt the scales in a given direction when evidence and facts are lacking/limited.
I’m not unwilling. If God convicts me that I should believe it I will. I know full well how they have lied to us and I know full well it was Kenite/Edomites who who corrupted so many scriptures prior to and during the captivity of the tribe of Judah and Benjamin. They were the official Scribes of the millenia in the middle east and I know full well what they lied about by changing scripture. In particular the ons regarding to the ages of the patriarchs and length of captivity in Egypt to create the possibility of them being the chosen instead of Israel. People still believe there is a such thing a a jew too.
I’m the one who first broached all the topics regarding pre adamic world, eve having sex with satan, who the kenites are and a bunch of other taboo subjects here on TBP and took all the bullets for it first by walking point.
So it’s not reluctance to change. I just want my heart moved by God in that special soft but powerful way only he can.
I’m turning in. I’ll check back in the morning.
Flea- Totally understand your position. You opened your heart to God and so must you open your eyes to understand that the globe was conjured to make man small and unimportant where a plane created for us by god for our purpose makes us very important and special.
Don’t over do, get plenty of rest. My eyes are so bad today, I struggled all day to get a little work done.
You make assumptions about what I think that you can’t know. Assuming we are 3 years olds who don’t know why God created the planet is a big one.
The fucking moon is round.
The fucking sun is round.
The fucking planets are round.
Pretty much every fucking moon, planet, and star we’ve seen in telescopes is fucking round.
So, if you ever take a test and they ask “What shape is the earth?” a really really good bet is to choose ===>Fucking ROUND!
OK Stucky, right after you present proof positive that Earth is a round ball. NOTHING from NASA counts as proof.
As the old joo said as he held his finger in the air…..Ahha!!!! Still waiting for a sincere apology.
Here’s a general observation that is generally true; whenever someone asks for “proof positive”, then I know what they really mean is ===>no amount of proof will convince me”.
You validate that with your ridicules rule of not allowing scientific data from NASA.
There’s a bazillion articles, papers, vids etc. offering all the proof necessary. Perhaps you’re to lazy to do your own simple and fast research? Either that, or you just want to lead me on some wild-assed goose chase to nowhere. Nice try … but I won’t fall for your machinations.
I already offered an apology. It was sincere. You rejected it. You want more? You want me to grovel? So solly … nothing more will be forthcoming.
Stucky- First, the offer of a BJ is not in any way an apology.
If there is truly TONS of films, etc. that prove the ball theory…. bring it. NASA doesn’t count because they use CGI and I hate to bust your bubble Stuck but that is just a really low quality cartoon in the great scheme . Do you generally take cartoons as representing the gospel? I need more sauce than cartoons to convince me.
Once I realized they have lied about almost everything, I decided to consider all possibilities instead of mindlessly accepting every official narrative. You OTOH are lockstep with official narratives .
I used to be on a listserv that was mostly all Phd’s from every field of science and all of them solid Christians. I trust truly Christian scientists because the data they produce is honest.
BTW< science says nothing, the interpreters say everything.
Over the years if anything was mentioned about flat earth ideology it was immediately scoffed at. Very simple grade school experiments can be done to show that everything, like Stucky stated, is ROUND. A child can use a telescope and determine an object to be flat or round.
Its mind numbing to see comments like there are no satellites?? WTF!!! You can see them passing overhead, the SST is trackable and you can see it going overhead and with a pair of binoculars you can see the solar panels on it. The SST has a live camera feed you can watch… At some point it not about waking up, its about whats reasonable and whats not. Tossing the baby with the bath water solves nothing, and for lies to be effective there has to be an element of truth in it somewhere.
Either everything is a lie and nothing can be trusted, or there is truth and finding it in the weeds can be a problem at times. The flat earth thing IS absurd, and even the smartest people can believe the stupidest things…
Thank you Brian. Absurd is an understatement. Why has nobody taken a picture of this ice wall. Surely someone has been to it since cameras were invented.
Flea- There are loads of pictures of the ice wall, are you kidding? They just failed to tell you the true circumference of the wall.
Sure. Whatever. You of course have the evidence. You do, right?
Neither of us can prove shit Flea because it is NOT ALLOWED to be explored. That begs the question….why?
This fella will help you to prove without a doubt whether the earth is flat or round. Timt to put your money where your mouth is… I suspect people will make any number of excuses to NOT take the offer up… as usual…
brian: I don’t know for sure one way or the other; what I do know is that flat earthers have raised some compelling points (see my original comment in response to Flea above re: viewing Chitcongo from Michigan). Also, mark posted a picture of a frozen Lake Baikal — that’s pretty cool too.
This pilot’s plan sounds good, except the cost to charter (rent) a 747, plus the fuel cost, is prohibitive — unless and “angel” investor type wants to get on board (pun intended). Additionally, his plan is to “skirt” the coast of Antarctica — that’s not good enough. Also, I’ve heard that ships are intercepted that try to cruise close to Antarctica — so I assume that flight plans would require gubmint approval; so it’s not like “we’ll just fly south from Buenos Aires to Melbourne” as if you’re renting a moped in Bermuda or something…
Sorry DS – That excuse isn’t going to cut it… Seems millions can be raised for truckers to protest but to rent a 747 is cost prohibitive… nope, not likely. And if you fly over the Antarctic directly or over its boundaries makes zero difference at all. You’ll still SEE the place in all its icy glory and track the plane for YOURSELF where you are, AND the FLIGHT TIMES will either be confirmed or not… Please… do a bit of critical thinking here instead of just taking a stupid picture from a frozen lake, look its flat therefore proves everything… wowsers…
Brian- Could you explain why Antarctica is a No-Fly zone and no ships allowed to sail near the ice wall ? Why would it matter if there is nothing to hide.
The same does not hold true for the North Pole….why? What is being hidden in the info regarding Antarctica?
On the flat Earth map, it is frozen in the center (North Pole) and perimeter(Antarctica) due to the motion of the sun which never heats the North Pole or Antartica. Multitudes are allowed to enter/explore/trek the North Pole…..why not Antarctica?
That has nothing to do with the flat or round debate.
There is no flat or round debate. Flat earthers are propagandists trying to poison the well on any conspiracy debate. Do you really believe their are people that stupid?
Did you fall for the Nazi base story, or the present day military bases? Call me crazy but what is strategic about that chunk of ice wall?Cover stories sometime explain away what they want explained away.
What are they guarding the cold water red shrimp beds off the coast of Argentina?
no fly zone??? Try flying over the White House, area 51. There are aplenty of no fly zones. WHY??? Any bodies guess.
How about YOU explain why and how BOTH poles go for about 6 months of daytime/nighttime periods. Smeg… RENT A FUCKING plane. I’m not trying to be an asshole but really…
The flight time from S America to Australia should tell you EVERYTHING you need to know. Theres NO WAY to get to Australia from S America on the flat earth map that won’t take over 20hrs flight time. In marine operations we use optimal routing which is a straight line to the destination. So quantitative methods employed we can calculate optimal fuel/speed/draught variables for maximum efficiencies. Those routes look like arcs but they ain’t. Why haven’t mariners over the eons of time, even unto this day’n age never report on a giant wall of ice?? Especially south of tazmania, australia, S africa… the roar’n forties?? DOH… forgot about Pirates of the Caribbean Worlds End… proof right there I guess…
Plus people and expeditions go to the Antarctic all the time. Two expeditions went to ‘prove’ climate change and had to be rescued because of being locked into the GROWING ice sheet, two years in a row. There have been, if memory serves, two cruise ships sink in that area during cruises there.
Regardless, theres no reasoning with ‘believers’, don’t confuse me with facts my minds made up… Want to know the truth definitively rent the plane, sell tickets, start a gofundme, whatever… Go to Panatgonia, rent a boat and sail it to Australia. It’ll take a few weeks but it would take a few months the other way… I suggest to go in the southern hemispheres summer, calmer waters. Let everyone know what you find out…
No NASA CGI, no youtube. Nothing from the tricksters. 🙂
The problem with ur ice wall is that, just like the claims of cgi being used by nasa to claim a round earth, that the ice wall isn’t a photoshop job?? Skepticism works both ways…
Better get a few friends and get that pilot to fly you all over the S pole… Start a gofundme page to prove it…
But then I guess that would take all the fun out of posting and arguing over cultish ideologies like flat earth.
Ice wall or not, there is funny business going on in the Antarctic.
Actually, B, with regard to your last point, Stucky doesn’t believe the theological narrative put forth by Saul/Paul regarding Jesus and his “mission” from God. That was pretty official…
In fact, I’m pretty sure that Stucky despises Saul/Paul. Notwithstanding some of the fine prose offered by Saul/Paul (although the authorship of some/many of the epistles are heavily contested) , I tend to agree with Herr Stuck that Saul/Paul was doing his own thing — the true MO we’ll never know, but one can never forget that he was a Pharisee, after all.
Nietzsche is said to have written of the NT / origins of Christianity: “The first thing to be remembered, if we do not wish to lose the scent here, is that we are among Jews”.
Sorry to say this, but you are often fundamentally dishonest.
The offer of a bj was clearly said in jest, a way of lightening the mood, easing tensions, etc.
You completely ignore what I said previous to that post, which was …
As I said, fundamentally dishonest. And a drama queen.
Sorry to have to say this, but you are often a lying asshole.
You have made that accusation dozens and dozens of times over the years. You bloviate that bullshit EVERY time I disagree with you. Every. Fucking. Time.
“YOU’RE ON OF ….THEM, STUCKY!!!”
It’s your go-to mantra when you have nothing intelligent left to say.
Well, “pal”, go fuck yourself. It’s just not worth discussing anything with you.
You just can’t say the word sorry. I was just one of many who said the photo was BS, yet you called me insulting names and really went off the chain. You only said you were DELIGHTED I post here because I advised I would never comment on another of your articles.
WHO is dishonest here old pal? If you had just typed those five letters, I would have smoked a peace pipe and forgiven you.
Five letters? I’ll do better than that! I’ll give you six letters.
BLOW ME.
Tipical…..
Knowledge of the shape of the earth existed before NASA. You can go back to the greeks or come all the way up to pre-gps navigation by air or sea. You can get a scope and look up, or you can look down at your own roads for correction lines. Do whatever research or math floats your boat and then go observe or try to prove it on your own.
Nothing from youtube counts as proof either.
One of the weakest arguments you could make.
The rings of Saturn are flat.
Asteroids are not round.
So we have exceptions to your rule right here in our own solar system.
And that’s assuming what we see in the sky are what they are claimed to be. For the moment they are all too far off to confirm one way or another. We are still living in the theoretic realm.
HF- Stucky’s standard form letter response in every FE thread is that Earth has to be round because everything is round and when he says round, he means round like a ball. Some are afraid they will look silly if they don’t strictly adhere to the narrative handed down by the “experts” and officialdom. I am afraid of looking like a silly sheep for believing planetary officialdom.
Masonry is coded to hide truths and one code is “rounding the square” , so I wonder if even a square flat Earth as the Bible describes is a possibility. The Bible says there are four CORNERS and to have four corners would you not have a square? The perimeters are frozen and ice could most likely form in a circular area within the square. Just a thought for the thinkers and a good laugh for the ball theory crowd. Ball believers would say that just equates to the North, East, South and West directions of the compass which is another standard form letter response. The Bible says there are corners so why not explore the possibilities?
If we could steal those crossed keys from the Vatican and get into the sealed (away from humanity) Vatican library, I’ll bet Stucky would find info that is shocking and amazing and nothing like the programming he had in school.
If we could steal those crossed keys from the Vatican and get into the sealed (away from humanity) Vatican library
Indeed — what a treasure trove of truth must be locked up there. However, ((they’d)) sooner burn it all up than let the plebs discover what exists behind their web of lies. Now that I think about it, it’s probably why the library of Alexandria was torched way back when…
DS- Planet Hollywood is one big ball….a ball of secrets withheld from we the participants. Those crossed keys should tell you things are not on the up and up.
Keep ’em stupid is their motto. Just not too stupid as to forget to send in their 10% in their weekly envelope. If humanity ever found out how important each of us truly are, the grifters would be at the end of highway off-ramps with a sign begging for money to eat.
I’m a flat earth agnostic. I think we need to expose the smaller (still huge) lies before taking on the possiblity of a big one like that.
I don’t know Mary…cutting the head off the serpent (or crushing it) works for me.
What ever works for you, Mark. I don’t think trying to tell people the truth by putting a firehose in their mouth and turning on the water will work too well. If, before I started figuring stuff out on my own, the first thing you told me about was flat earth I would have told you that a straight jacket was in your future. I don’t tell flat earthers that now because who knows? They could be right or we could both be wrong.
What firehose? You see firehoses and we see possibilities/potential truths.
Come on in MC, the water is fine.
Mary,
Two stories:
1. I have a brother in law, great guy, hard partying good ole boy, he has not a clue on what I think you and I would agree on as far as TLPTB evil…FF’s, the WEF, the Fed, yada, yada, yada. Stuff I know we both have known about for many years.
I have been witnessing to him for 20 years…thought I had made significant progress once, then soon after he had a fling with a married woman and she left her husband who she had three kids with to move in with him. He didn’t read the Bible.
He came for a weeklong visit two summers ago and I gave him ‘Confusion in the Cosmos’ to read. He hardly put it down for three days…told me it changed his life…and has opened his eyes to many other deceptions (the book covers more than just Flat Earth) and I believe him.
I also think I finally got the simplicity of the gospel through to him.
2. Have a friend I know for 25 years, outstanding Christian, knows the Bible inside and out…he understands the FF’s, the jab is a bio weapon, how the FED works, who the WHO really are, who the WEF really are, etc. etc. etc. We had a long talk one evening at another friends home and I offered to Amazon him a copy of ‘Confusion in the Cosmos’…he was adamant not to send it. I mean he gave me the traffic cop stop sign full extended arm…palm up! I asked why…he said if it’s true and the interconnected scriptures convinces him the Earth actually is flat…it’s too much to handle…and then he changed the subject.
Different stokes for different folks.
Mark – I’m going to order that book today. Maybe send one to Brian and Stucky.
BL,
Amazon refused to sell it for a long time…the author had to really fight to get put up.
That was a big reason I tracked it down and originally bought it the first time.
Last time I checked there was only about 10 comments🤣
You’re listening to a lot of KR. I’m a Kid Rock fan, but have to be careful with listening to him sometimes for my own sanity. Doesn’t make sense, I know, but cold turkey is sometimes best otherwise his music will stay in your head all day…and that’s not healthy.
Noted.
I think that’s part of the problem you’re having:
http://mileswmathis.com/kid.pdf
Yes, the 2nd picture is extremely damning — if you know the backstory of the “E-Team” and their artwork. I read about it in a rabbit hole, with pictures of them in a small crow’s nest type of thing hanging outside that tower…
You caught me. Ya caught the hoaxer. I recorded a plane landing at an airport on my motorola Dynatrac 800x Superimposed it on the lower manahattan skyline . . .
sucker born every minute
One tweet of a supposed 911 video and it turns into an argument about flat earth. I’m not sure what to believe anymore. Even my own lyin eyes. A false Jesus could be hologramed and people would believe Jesus had returned.
And if you wait around for a while MC, hologram Jesus will appear in the sky for the entire world to see. I hear they plan to play “Ode To Joy” to accompany his arrival.
For the doubting Thomas’…. watch this video FULL VIEW.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UT2KzV6oa8
Did you notice the extreme clarity when it switched to the planet and satellite passing? Much clearer and only a tiny taste of what they hold in their hands.
I’m sure that’s next on the docket, MC.