What if they Threw an Election and Nobody Came?

Guest Post by Hardscrabble Farmer

I am as deeply indoctrinated as any American. I grew up at the very zenith of America’s influence, power and success. I served in America’s Guard of Honor (82nd Airborne) and have been everything from a precinct captain to a town councilman. I voted for Reagan in my first election in ’80 and never missed an opportunity to participate as a good citizen, but then reality poked its nose under the tent flap and forced me to see what a fool I had been. Last Tuesday was our state primary and every time I drove past the Town Hall I could feel something inside of me plead to pull in and cast a vote, but I resisted.

Participation in corruption at any level is still corruption. There are enough other things in life where you must compromise your values and your instincts in order to serve something more important than yourself, especially if you have family and friends, but at least with those there is a common bond, a mutual self interest and an understanding that simply does not exist in the sphere of politics.

I was buttonholed at the dump by my local state rep the other morning. He is a local businessman and he has a small farm so in many ways we have some common ground between us. He wanted my vote in the upcoming general election in November- I didn’t tell him I passed on the primary-I asked him the only pertinent question I could think of at the moment and that was what single issue is most important to you?

It actually took him aback, I cold see him scramble internally to come up with a good answer and he tried the old everything is important ruse until I restated the question a second time.

Compromise, he said.

I asked him what he thought the odds were, in the current polarized political climate, of that happening and he said not good.

The most important issue to him was compromising with people who hated him even though there was almost no chance of making that happen, at the expense of every other important issue out there.

And therein lies the problem. No one stands for anything, not even the most important things right down at the most grassroots level. And that’s why we’re where we are. No principled men, no principles at all, just a desire to be in power at any cost. We talked for a couple of minutes longer, I encouraged him to advocate for the elimination of restrictions on hemp production- hemp is not a drug, it’s a great feed crop, drought resistant and there is absolutely no reason on Earth it should be banned except that it looks like marijuana which is already legal in every other state in New England and he said he’d look into it, but I doubt he’ll remember that any longer than any other promise he’d make.

If everyone- or at least a substantial number or people- withdrew from participation in politics it would expose it for the fraud that it is. What if they threw an election and nobody came? I realize that may be a pipe dream because we have been so conditioned to believe that the us versus them school of problem solving actually works to our benefit, but if you still think that you aren’t really in the game.

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Leah
Leah

The train station is another gotch place. I play dodgeball. In the event they catch me, I tell them that my residence is out of their bounds. It isn’t a lie. I’ll ask that question though.

nkit
nkit
Anonymous
Anonymous

This “selection” will be the same as last:

Preview of the November Election Results

. . . with “help” from Dominion pre-selection systems – again:
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/tina-peters-interview

Meet the new fraud . . . same as the old fraud.
We WILL get fooled again.

~ The Who, Me Worry?

nkit
nkit

1981..

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer

Just say, “Hey! I know that guy! He flipped me off in traffic!”

EZPZ.

IAMARICK
IAMARICK
Rachel
Rachel

Shill, ANYBODY suggesting that we shouldn’t vote is working for Democrats plain and simple, there is a red wave coming, You know it, I know it and the Democrats Know it. This is about as lame as it gets to suggest we shouldn’t even vote. It’s real simple if we don’t vote, they win. If your tired of seeing 80 year old drunk diaper shitting geriatrics on live TV telling you that YOU are the problem with America then you have to show up and vote them the hell out PERIOD.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Voting is a scam now, and it was always a joke except in tiny local elections, MAYBE. All .gov anywhere is men, guns, badges, cages, and the caprices and whims of a majority or an oligarchy or plutocracy. It is the opposite of freedom. It is enslavement.

Don’t do it:
https://www.lewrockwell.com/?s=don%27t+vote
https://www.lewrockwell.com/?s=non-voting

It is voluntary self-enslavement, too:

Overthrowing the State

“Once one concedes that a single world government is not necessary, then where does one logically stop at the permissibility of separate states? If Canada and the United States can be separate nations without being denounced as in a state of impermissible ‘anarchy’, why may not the South secede from the United States? New York State from the Union? New York City from the state? Why may not Manhattan secede? Each neighbourhood? Each block? Each house? Each person?” ― Murray N. Rothbard

Wideguy
Wideguy

So Murray had anarchist tendencies. So what. Just ignore them. It’s a really bad idea.

Anonymous
Anonymous

No, government is a terrible idea. And Rothbard didn’t tend toward anarchism – he insisted on it. So do many others:

The Reluctant Anarchist by Joe Sobran
http://www.sobran.com/reluctant.shtml

https://www.lewrockwell.com/?s=anarchism

An Action Plan for Anarcho-Capitalists

https://www.lewrockwell.com/?s=block+anarchism

Wideguy
Wideguy

Anarchy is a bad idea.

It’s like communism, and the same type of people fall for both of them. In the abstract, they sound idyllic. In reality, both quickly devolve into tyranny.

If it’s tyranny you want, either communism or anarchy will soon give it to you.

Would you like my take on the fact that real communism is anarchy?

By the way, it’s only of late and in contravention of the Constitution that the feds have tried to monopolize law enforcement, and they aren’t there yet. Many state and local police take exception to it. They should

The best idea ever is a limited government with divided power and divided responsibilities, whose officials are installed in office in a number of different ways, and which is categorically denied any power to infringe the rights of liberty retained by the People, and the powers granted to the states, and retained by them.

denky28
denky28

Yeah, your hypothesis sounded great in 2019. Now you just look like an idiot. No one at the federal level has done anything to address the fraud. Vote all you want and you’ll still get the candidate they assign you anyways. The publicans and the dumbocrats have sliced that all up in the back room for the mid terms just like 2020.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Sorry honey they’re selected not elected your comment is absurd left right nonsense.

Bill
Bill

I did in 2020, see how well it worked, we got a diaper shitting geriatric

Shotgun Trooper
Shotgun Trooper

“All The Way” HSB…. I feel very blessed. Didn’t get shot, blowed-up or run-over, and my parachute worked almost every time….

Anonymous
Anonymous

Not voting is not a good plan. At least if you vote, the cheaters must put in a little effort to steal the elections. Not voting gives it to them without any effort.

Anonymous
Anonymous

You want to help the criminals to up their game? Sounds good. /s

Voting signals belief in the legitimacy of the right to initiate aggression against those you disagree with, as well as faith in the motives and abilities of the aggressors. Humanity must outgrow belief in the necessity of the need for organized control over others. The state stands athwart human potential.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Not voting, especially in a primary guarantee’s the election of a Rhino or Dem cheater. You can hold your ideals, however believing humanity will adopt them is futile. Changing the system will only come through violence. While waiting for the inevitable violent change to occur, voting for the better of two evils is the best option. While rhino’s are disappointing, they are a better option than a leftist, at least short term. Primary the rhino’s out through voting. Not voting does nothing to further your argument, it silences it. The opposition won because you forfeited.

Anonymous
Anonymous

There are no elections anymore. They’ve been techno-compromised – haven’t you noticed? Just secede already, like we semi-did from King George III centuries ago.

Wideguy
Wideguy

Bullshit. Pure bullshit.

Obviously you are completely lacking in understanding of the system of government created by our Constitution. It’s al about controlling the government and designating it to serve us in certain limited ways, one of which is to allow human potential to bloom by protecting property rights.

Anonymous
Anonymous

No, you are. And “our” .gov doesn’t protect our rights – it perennially violates them. And you don’t know me or what I know.

And “our” CONstitution was a coup-d’etat:

Conspiracy in Philadelphia


http://www.garynorth.com/philadelphia.pdf
On May 25th, 1787, a group of 55 men gathered for a closed meeting in Philadelphia. Officially, it was being convened to discuss alterations to the then constitution of the United States of America: the Articles of Confederation. Some state legislatures had authorized their representatives to attend the meeting only on this basis, explicitly prohibiting them from considering a new constitution. To make certain that the general public did not find out about the nature of this conspiracy, the convention members swore an oath not to discuss any proceedings with the public…for the rest of their lives. The only first-hand accounts of the proceedings were published several years later after the death of the last survivor, James Madison, in 1836. The press was forbidden to attend. The meetings were held on the second floor of the building, so that would-be eavesdroppers could not hear anything. The new constitution would become the law of the land whenever nine state conventions ratified it. This was in explicit violation of the Articles, which required a unanimous vote for amendments. Thus did a group of men launch a coup-d’etat. This coup established a new national covenant in 1788, a covenant stripped of the Articles’ invocation of God, “The Great Governor of the World,” with only the old country’s name transferred for public relations’ sake: the United States of America.

https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/2095916-no-treason-the-constitution-of-no-authority

“But whether the Constitution really be one thing, or another, this much is certain – that it has either authorized such a government as we have had, or has been powerless to prevent it. In either case it is unfit to exist.”
― Lysander Spooner, No Treason: The Constitution of No Authority

Read, listen and learn, petulant, self-righteous know-it-all. Rothbard and all of them were certainly greater scholars and students of history and human nature than you – or me.

Wideguy
Wideguy

“our” .gov doesn’t protect our rights – it perennially violates them.”

Are you saying that the Constitution creates a government intended to violate our rights?

“Read, listen and learn, petulant, self-righteous know-it-all. Rothbard

and all of them were certainly greater scholars and students of history and human nature than you – or me.”

I’ve read Rothbard, and “all of them”, so I know way more than you do, and can categorically and emphatically state that anarchy is dangerous and soon devolves into tyranny.

As to Spooner’s assertion that the Constitution has been shown to be powerless to prevent the tyranny he saw and we are now experiencing, I say, it’s a piece of paper, as are all laws, unless the laws are held in an oral tradition, in which case they are only words.

Our Constitution was perverted early on by Hamilton and Marshall, and Congress didn’t stop it, probably because they agreed with Hamilton and Marshall (or at least feared that they were right) that the survival of America required that the national government (temporarily) required extra-constitutional powers to protect the future of the nation.

All was not a binary choice.

Had they followed the Jeffersonian interpretation (the one my heart is drawn to…) and done nothing,perhaps we would have been another Canada, or perhaps Napoleon would have acted differently.

With a written law and constitutions, at the least, you can claim to stand on the law and it’s protections, and by doing that you ally yourself with everyone else who believes that men should be ruled by laws of which they approve, and not by other men.

Anarchy is a bad idea, a pipe dream that leads to nothing but tyranny.

Scot
Scot

I will NEVER hold my nose and cast another vote for a RINO. They need to become unelectable.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Yes, plus any vote you cast will go to whomever Dominion/Davos chooses beforehand anyway.

Wideguy
Wideguy

I feel the same way about Democrats these days, but I never voted for any, so I didn’t have to hold my nose.
There are a lot of people who need to become un-elected, and the great majority are Democrats. Let’s worry about them first.

BTW, take a look at the candidates offered by the Libertarians.

Anonymous
Anonymous

The Libertarian Party is shit, but .gov is shit. There can be no such thing as a libertarian state – the state is antithetical to liberty, by definition. Therefore, party doesn’t matter. It all comes down to the presumption of the right of arbitrary force and enslavement. Government comes in only one form: arbitrary force.

Anonymous
Anonymous

Oh, and a majority may be democrats, but a giant minority – nearly as many – are RINOs. There are not two parties. GOP is NOT an opposition or alternative party.

Wideguy
Wideguy

Libertarians are an opposition party. They have opposed the TwoParty system since it’s inception.

Wideguy
Wideguy

The great majority of people forced to call themselves libertarians are actually liberals, in the classical sense.

Let’s talk about (classical liberal) policies rather than a political party.

All pWideguyolitical parties are shit. You must agree.

The founders of America went to a lot of effort to design a government that was tasked with protecting individual rights, and forbidden from encroaching on them.

Of course, our governing parties now care nothing for this idea and have long felt that the law does not apply to them. You cannot in fact blame libertarians for any of this. They have fought it al along.

Wideguy
Wideguy

So you’re a Nazi of the White Supremacist variety? I doubt you can be cured.

Wade Baker
Wade Baker

I’m fine with somebody’s personal choice not to vote, but encouraging others not to or mocking them for it is bullshit.

Anonymous
Anonymous

No, it’s not. The state is humanity’s enemy, a giant crime syndicate. Encouraging and educating people to reject it is a matter of survival for all of humanity. By supporting the state, you endanger humanity.

Our Greatest Earthly Enemy

Wideguy
Wideguy

You really believe the state will wither away if people just stop voting?

WestcoastDeplorable
WestcoastDeplorable

Unless you’re ready to rumble, voting is the only shot we’ve got. And what’s with all these “anonymous” commenters? Pussies!

Wideguy
Wideguy

Is “WestcoastDeplorable” your real name?

bucknp
bucknp

Needless to say politics is dictated by hypocrisy. Duh?

As Antifa began to burn Portland, OR to the ground , early President Trump, in Texas it was like call out the military because “they” occupied a federal building?…what I heard locally. So, the GOP has panties in a wad, “I dare you occupy a federal building”, yet while I agree with the Hammonds cause , when the Bundies occupied the Malheur NP facility in Oregon. ..duh, duh duh, not me! Get what I’m talking, WTF is the difference in regards to the “rule of law”?

Yeah, Obama sucked and all that, my point is only facts of hypocrisy. GOPher , acquaintances, “Trump should send the military. They’ve occupied a federal building.” My opinion…it does not get dumber than that.

Wideguy
Wideguy

I agree, Obama sucked, just like every president since Coolidge.

Trump was probably thinking that instigating another Kent State would get him good press.

bucknp
bucknp

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) was among the lawmakers who criticized the actions of federal officers, though he stopped short of criticizing Trump directly.

“We cannot give up liberty for security. Local law enforcement can and should be handling these situations in our cities but there is no place for federal troops or unidentified federal agents rounding people up at will,” Paul tweeted Monday to his more than 2.8 million followers.

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/508205-foxs-napolitano-rips-unconstitutional-trump-crackdown-on-portland-just-plain/

Malheur National Wildlife Refuge and Portland, Oregon. GOP hypocrisy.

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