How do we sway the minds of people who refuse to see the negative data?

Guest Post by Steve Kirsch

Collecting more negative data on the vaccine isn’t going to change anything. The problem is getting people to consider the possibility that they have been fooled.

It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled." Mark Twain [1280x1024] : r/QuotesPorn

There’s an old saying, “It’s Easier to Fool People Than to Convince Them That They Have Been Fooled.”

That’s what we’re up against.

We have the data. But nobody we want to convince wants to look at it.

We have the data

We have plenty of data from respected experts showing the vaccines should not be taken, such as:

  1. the VAERS data (see this tutorial and this recent affirmation and this article on VAERS and causality) showing that hundreds of thousands have died and millions have been injured
  2. the Canadian report showing no benefit for infection, hospitalization, and death for those under 60
  3. the Israeli data showing the side-effects are serious, long-lasting, and caused by the vaccines; and that the authorities are covering it all up.
  4. the Harvard-Hopkins-UCSF study showing it is unethical to mandate vaccination for kids
  5. the Thailand study showing blood test before vs. after
  6. the Fraiman-Doshi paper about serious adverse event rates
  7. the Levi cardiac arrest rate elevation paper
  8. the study by Bhakdi and Burkhardt showing 93% of deaths after vaccination were caused by the vaccine
  9. the data showing the vaccines cause prion diseases shortly after vaccination. This is impossible if the vaccines are truly safe.

and we have amazing, impossible to explain, anecdotes such as:

  1. The embalmer data (such as The Epoch Times article or this interview)
  2. Wayne Root’s wedding: 200 guests, half vaxxed, half unvaxxed. Only the vaxxed got injured (26%) or died (7%).
  3. My neurologist stats: 11 years without needing to do a single VAERS report; this year, needs to file 1,000 VAERS reports
  4. The polling results using third party polling firms (so not my followers)
  5. The fact that Paul Offit isn’t going to get the latest booster even though the CDC says he should

We even have a great books and presentations that document all the shenanigans such as:

  1. Turtles all the way down: Vaccine science and myth
  2. Dissolving Illusions
  3. This 20 minute slide presentation from CHD
  4. The CCCA presentations: Stop the shots, More Harm Than Good, and Dispelling the Myth

And finally, we have proof beyond any reasonable doubt that the top outside person in the US who is responsible for vaccine safety does NOT want to see the Israeli safety data:

  1. The head of the CDC’s outside committee on vaccine safety does not want to see the safety data collected by the Israeli Ministry of Health

This is objective proof of a broken system. It is indefensible. There is no reason that anyone in a position of authority on the COVID vaccines would refuse an opportunity to see the most thorough post-vaccine safety study ever done: one that shows causality.

The problem: Our blue pill friends refuse to look at any negative data

Most rely on their doctors for medical advice.

So I talked to one of my doctor friends who has been trying to red pill his colleagues for over a year. His response about the vaccines:

About the vaccine itself, it’s a prideful, egoic thing now for many and unwillingness to face their cognitive dissonance, aka denial.

So what would it take to change their minds? Get this:

Their own hospital or CDC itself would have to say vaccines could cause harm, and we know they will NEVER do that.

So there you go. We are in a no way out situation according to my very smart, very red-pilled doctor friend. It’s like being put in an escape room with no way out.

Here’s another example. I contacted a friend of mine who prides himself in following science. He’s been vaxxed 5 times with the COVID shot. I asked him to read Turtles. He said he would. He called me back 2 minutes later saying, “This is an anti-vaccine book. Vaccines have saved millions of lives. I’m not going to read this nonsense.” This is from someone who I thought would be the easiest to convince.

Some progress on vaccine mandates

As for the mandates, he pointed out in this article that appeared today that the first hospital in the nation to require COVID vaccine shots is now dropping the requirement to get the latest booster: Methodist in Houston is no longer requiring doctors to be vaccinated with the latest booster. This is because they are “following the science.”

“At this time, Houston Methodist will not mandate the new booster,” Dr. Robert Phillips, the executive vice president and chief physician executive at Houston Methodist wrote in the Sept. 12 email, which was reviewed by The Epoch Times. “We will continue to follow the scientific data, the level of infections in the community and the availability of vaccines and may mandate the new booster in the future if necessary.”

I’d love to interview Dr. Robert Phillips on the science, but we all know how that request will be handled, don’t we?

But at least now we can say, Houston Methodist isn’t requiring the latest booster and we know they are following the science because they said so. So why are you?

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27 Comments
hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
September 21, 2022 8:23 am

You don’t.

I can’t think of more wasteful use of your time than trying to change people’s minds. It is a form of insanity.

Prepare for a world that will be completely different than the one we’ve come to know. That should take most of your time.

GNL
GNL
  hardscrabble farmer
September 21, 2022 8:47 am

I think it was worth my time trying to change the mind of family members. I didn’t try to change anyone else’s mind after about a month.

PorkChopSandwiches
PorkChopSandwiches
  hardscrabble farmer
September 21, 2022 9:01 am

Agree 100%. You can’t reach these people. Like our old friend Yuri Bezmenov stated “They are programmed to think and react to certain stimuli in a certain pattern. You cannot change their mind even if you expose them to authentic information. Even if you prove that white is white and black is black, you still cannot change the basic perception and the logic of behavior.”

Anonymous
Anonymous
  PorkChopSandwiches
September 21, 2022 9:50 am

Propaganda does end critical thinking reflexes. It’s alarming:

Americans think country is 40% black, 30% gay, 22% trans.

Tell that ol’ big lie often enough, allow no dissent, and . . .

“If there be time to expose through discussion, the falsehoods and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence.”
~ Justice Louis Brandeis.

Fuck cancel culture. Never shut the fuck up. NEVER.

Sheeple will be sheeple
Sheeple will be sheeple
  Anonymous
September 21, 2022 4:14 pm

Maybe take them on a tour of the morgue and show them all the tasty 3ft long blood clots?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Sheeple will be sheeple
September 21, 2022 4:25 pm

That’ll only make ’em sway on their feet.

Edit: Oops! That was supposed to be a reply to the fellow below about baseball bats. D’oh . . .

Anonymous
Anonymous
  hardscrabble farmer
September 21, 2022 2:54 pm

How do we sway the minds of people who refuse to see?

Have you tried baseball bats?

wxtwxtr
wxtwxtr
  Anonymous
September 22, 2022 12:19 am

Tell them: “That’s okay. Only only 1 in 7 will die soon. You won’t. What are the chances? I suppose it’s better odds than Russian Roulette with an automatic. Slower, though.”

wxtwxtr
wxtwxtr
  hardscrabble farmer
September 22, 2022 12:14 am

How about the Nocebo Effect – the witch’s spell:
“I’m looking for a link to that study I saw a while ago that claimed that 100% of the people who took the Miracle Vaccination will be dead by 2025. Can you help me find it?”

Ken31`
Ken31`
  hardscrabble farmer
September 22, 2022 12:35 am

It is the saddest part about becoming aware, to me.

Random63
Random63
  hardscrabble farmer
October 3, 2022 10:24 am

“Do not cast your pearls before swine.” Pretty much sums up what to do with the blue pill friends/family that refuse to listen or learn.

i forget
i forget
September 21, 2022 8:30 am

Better question is how to “sway” (is that like “nudge” a la sunstein & all the rest of the behavioral massage therapists?) the minds of fundamentally dishonest people?

Which question answers itself.

Don’t it make your brown eyes blue? No, it don’t. Everybody gets what they get.

Not that Mengeles will ever stop trying to force or fraud brown to blue. Or white to mulatto. Or whatever the mechanics decide best feeds the machine.

Ken31`
Ken31`
  i forget
September 22, 2022 12:37 am

It’s OK to help seekers, but until they are seekers it is like persuading a wall.

Ouirphuqd
Ouirphuqd
September 21, 2022 8:32 am

Satan sure has a firm grip on the powers that be. I wonder what is promised to those under the spell? Do you think sacrificing your souls is worth it?

Junious Ricardo Stanton
Junious Ricardo Stanton
September 21, 2022 9:01 am

This is a testament to the effectiveness of the COVID psyop and the modern day Operation Mockingbird phenomenon. Fear is at the root of the COVID Big Lie. https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2022-09-11/the-big-lie Fear as we can see is a potent weapon and as we see many will cling to their fears and refuse to alter their media induced perspectives or mind set.
On a more subtle level people also believe the “climate change’ cow dung being floated everywhere in modern society. It will be a short leap to convince the comatose and the Zombies we must to go to war against Russia or China over a totally corrupt failed vassal state called Ukraine.

Jim
Jim
September 21, 2022 9:31 am

There are a couple of people in this world whose eyes I would love to open, but that will never happen. I’m speaking of my adult daughters, both of whom have taken the jabs and one went so far as to volunteer for the Novavax trial. About a month or so ago, I gave it one more try – after Congresscritters started blaming Trump for the negative effects of the shots (funny how that didn’t go anywhere except one article in Politico, I was hoping it would). After a couple of back-and-forths with them, I gave up. And probably for good. They’ve got their hands over their ears singing La La La, I can’t hear you.

Anonymous
Anonymous
September 21, 2022 9:49 am

HOOSICK FALLS, N.Y. (NEWS10) — Jewel Justine “Junebug” Burch, 6 unexpectedly passed away on September 8. Jewel was a first grader at Hoosick Falls Elementary School.

And many, many others:
https://celiafarber.substack.com/p/mark-crispin-miller-reports-on-a

NickelthroweR
NickelthroweR
September 21, 2022 10:07 am

The people that threw me under the bus for a $600 stimmy check and a moratorium on paying their bills 100% deserve to suffer in ignorance. I have no desire to tell them anything. After all, they were screaming for my blood. They wanted to put me in a camp. They wanted to deny me access to health care and groceries. They wet their tiny pants over the prospect of a “pandemic of the unvaccinated”. It couldn’t happen fast enough for them. They wanted to see guys like me dead and rotting in the streets.

Now we are entering the final chapter of Atlas Shrugged and it doesn’t matter how many crisis actors you hire to make dancing nurses TikToc videos. You can’t put that toothpaste back in the tube.

Where we are now is the final gathering of supplies while such supplies are still available. Consequently, warning the people that injected themselves with poison will only mean that I will have to compete with them for these supplies and I don’t want to do that and, frankly, they have no need for these supplies – not where they are going.

Sisofia
Sisofia
  NickelthroweR
September 22, 2022 4:45 am

Yep….waste of time talking to these people so now if they come to visit me I no longer hold back and if they don’t like what I say they don’t have to come to see me again…their choice to take the vaxx my choice not to take it so now I no longer want to listen to their pissy excuses of why they ‘had’ to take it. We all have the ability to discern things and they made their choices.

Long Time Lurker
Long Time Lurker
September 21, 2022 12:16 pm

They will never put the glasses on…

James
James
  Long Time Lurker
September 21, 2022 12:21 pm

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Ooze the other one
  Long Time Lurker
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Anonymous
Anonymous
  Long Time Lurker
September 21, 2022 1:13 pm

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The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
September 21, 2022 1:11 pm

I concur with the farmer. You don’t.

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Death cult
Death cult
September 21, 2022 4:13 pm

I read that 90% of biden voters are jabbed. I don’t think there is any swaying them. Even when they get sick they won’t listen.

Walt
Walt
September 21, 2022 5:26 pm

How do we sway the minds of people who refuse to see the negative data?

We don’t. They’ve made their beds.
Aren’t we advised not to throw pearls to swine, and past a point, to shake the dust off our feet?

You’ve lead the horse to the water, but if it won’t drink…
…And now it’s dead. All you’re doing now is flogging a dead horse.
Leave the poor thing alone. Or better still, bury it.