Via Bart Sibrel. www.sibrel.com
One year to the day after the publication of the revelatory book “Moon Man: The True Story of a Filmmaker on the CIA Hit List”, which divulges the deathbed confession of the former Chief of Security at Cannon Air Force Base in Clovis New Mexico, who confessed thereon to his participation in the falsification of the first “moon landing”, his identity is finally revealed. This predetermined waiting period was previously negotiated with his sole surviving son, who himself passed away this year.
Cyrus Eugene Akers detailed the information in the book, including not only the location of the filming of the first fake moon landing at his military base, the dates it was filmed, and the CIA codename for the operation, he also gave the names of fifteen government scientists and officials who were allowed exclusive observation of this historic government fraud, some of whom are still alive today. The list was given to Akers by President Lyndon Johnson, who was there at the first day of filming.
Threatened with execution if he ever revealed this information, Security Chief Akers kept all of this to himself until his deathbed, the guilt from which prompted his tearful confession to his son, who was also threatened with assassination after sharing this information with the author of Moon Man, Bart Sibrel.
This sad and outrageous, and really unnecessary deception, was done for pride and embezzlement. It demonstrates the complete arrogance of leaders over their people, who in fact are financing their own deception. Unlike government frauds about war, assassination, or terrorism, the moon landing deception cruelly gave the over-trusting public the pleasing candy that they cried out for. Trying to take it away from them, after they believed with tears and cheers, by exposing their heroes as the criminals they really are, faces fierce resistance. Even a professor at a major university has so famously said, “Even if I heard a moon astronaut confess that he never really went, I would still believe that he walked on the moon.”
Fortunately a new generation is here, ones who were not emotionally branded by the deception, who are objective to the unfolding reality of the moon landings falsification. Simply put, what the corrupt government is claiming, is that in 1969 they went from never being in space, to walking on the moon, with only 8 years of research and development, and that with one-millionth the computing of a cell phone, and on the first attempt, when even the South Pole on Earth was not reached on the first attempt.
Today, with 50 years of more advanced rocket and computer technology, the current Artemis moon rocket took 18 years to develop, had three launch failures, is not safe enough yet to carry astronauts, and will only orbit the moon, because a moon lander for it has not yet been developed that works. The farthest that the government can send astronauts today, 50 years later, is to the space station, which is only one-thousandth the distance to the moon.
For the first time in the entire history of the world, technology was greater in the past than in the future. As this is actually impossible, it only means one thing, that the 1969 moon landing was a forgery. It is not the first time scientific boasts were falsified or governments have lied, as covid vaccine maker Prizer has been fined billions of dollars, on multiple occasions, for making fraudulent claims about their scientific products.
Former high-ranking government employee Robert McNamara, who was Defense Secretary during the Vietnam War, admitted before he died that the “Gulf of Tonkin Incident”, which was the reason why the war began, was completely fabricated by the CIA. If the corrupt government is willing to falsify something that led to the death of a million people, including 58,220 of their own citizens, then I think they are capable of faking an image on a television.
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Wait what…..the moon landings were fake? Perhaps if we shovel a few more billion into NASA’s pocket, they can spruce up the CGI and make us believers.
Go NASA……………FUCK YOURSELVES!
Considering how many people must have been involved in the 9/11 “hoax”…many of them most likely old, why no death bed confessions about hat?
There is no moon… it’s a giant hoax.
How can there beVan Allen belts if the Earth is flat?
You know precisely the configuration of the Van Allen phenomenon, or you accept what you’ve read?
Knowledge is a firsthand resource, you can’t subcontract it out to someone else.
Otherwise it’s just faith.
“Knowledge is a firsthand resource”
yep, and experience is a secondhand resource! 😀 😂
I have no idea what that means and even less why you might find it funny.
But you do you.
‘We are standing on the shoulders of giants’
It’s just not clear if that is meant as “piles of ancient wisdom/knowledge“, or “piles of ancient bullshit”… 🤣
So direct experience is the only route to knowledge? That seems quite limiting.
Indeed.
@HSF: Are you talking about flat earth or god?
So books are useless because someone wrote about their
experiences/intimate knowledge I didn’t have and thus are untrustworthy?
No thanks.
See how easy it is to be misunderstood?
I trust those who earn it, and I accpet on faith the things trusted sources tell me, but to have knowledge is to have experienced something personally.
That is my understanding of the word.
So you actually have a very clear idea what I meant
If the two mean the same thing, then yes.
You can see where humans run into most of their problems. Words are an excellent means of communication, but they remain imprecise to the clarity of the original thought.
If there is a misunderstanding on my part it is honest. I don’t come here to stir the pot or cause confusion or conflict. This place allows me to put into words those things I dwell upon when I am alone with my thoughts and to have them tested against a wide spectrum of other thoughtful people.
This topic always inspires a certain level of friction because it is- for the majority of the readers- one that was rooted in our early childhood, and crucial to our identity as Americans. That’s a lot to overcome. It was for me. However the most important tools we possess as sentient beings- our ability to perceive the world via the senses-we are told are inadequate or flawed when it comes to the planet we live on and the space we travel through. I find that explanation unsatisfactory. To compound the problem we must rely on people who have repeatedly proven themselves to be unworthy of trust due to their propensity to fabricate evidence and present it as factual, and their complete lack or remorse or contrition when it is clearly observable.
And so it remains an area of intense interest and confusion. You can easily perceive that, I am sure.
But all you say here is not taking the whole picture into account, in my view.
“we must rely on people who have repeatedly proven themselves to be unworthy of trust”
No, we must rely on people who [seem to] have proven worthy of trust. (And I’m of the more distrusting type, i.e. I will start off with distrusting a new person/commenter on important things. Burnt too often, I guess.)
That takes time and a good memory to evaluate, if someone if trustworthy; and any second it then can dissolve in a flash if the same person starts pushing complete bullshit, especially when accompanied with maliciously deformed “reasoning.”
But to say nobody is trustworthy ever, and therefore second hand knowledge (as every book is) is useless, takes the line of thinking waaay too far. And you’re probably aware of that.
With age comes wisdom……(for some).
I grew up believing virtually everything the media, etc said was truthful.
Now, in the fall of my life I realize everything was a fraud, deceit and manipulation.
I try telling my kids that fact and they think I’m crazy.
Tick-tock, truth….
Until they get old enough to realize the same things.
Apollo fire probably was on purpose to kill someone who wouldn’t go along with planned lies.
You mean Gus Grissom?
Indeed, Gus.
How do you teach your kids all that in the right way though? I have tried to raise questions about the shape of the earth and the moon landings with my 12 year old and made him cry because it didn’t compute/cognitive dissonance, so I backed off. Now, I just encourage him to question everything. I have removed the astronomy books from our bookshelves in the house though, because it is more likely fakery than not.
Yesterday, over Las Vegas, my husband said to him: “Look, the contrails, it almost looks like they are playing tic tac toe in the sky.” I didn’t say anything, so as to not ruin the vacation.
You can SEE the night sky and the stars and marvel at them. Whether they are solid objects or just flickering lights, or attached to a dome shaped firmament by gigantic thumb tacks or whether they are floating in a liquid, I have no idea.
How do you account for their motion across the sky?
As an amateur radio operator heavily involved in two-way amateur radio satellite operations, I would have to track the location and movement of satellites and point my antennas at the horizon in anticipation of it becoming visible. It would arrive at the exact time predicted based on the orbital mechanics of it’s orbit around a sphere. A friend in a distant city would disappear as soon as he was out of range of the satellite, even though I was still in range. I wrote the tracking software myself and can state with certainty that the Earth MUST be a sphere.
To deny the earth is round shows a complete lack of understanding of physics.
Our education system has failed us.
People are unable to solve problems and think critically. No wonder the cattle are all happily lining up for the slaughter house.
No wonder the cattle are all happily lining up for the slaughter house.
The cattle you speak of are the idiot globe heads like yourself.
Crawl back under you rock…
I would be interested to learn more about it, especially as our son is studying for his amateur radio license exam right now and nobody in our family has a license or has dabbled in it.
I simply don’t know enough about all these things, but I have not been able to confirm for myself what I have been told, so I remain skeptical.
Would love to get together in person so you can teach us.
Svarga – Read all this, and play with the model afterwards if you have time. The Tychos model makes sense to me… (FWIW)
Earth relatively motionless, being at the center of the solar system..
The model he created follows past celestial motions, and accurately predicts future motions, especially the retrogrades, which the accepted sun center model does not..
https://www.tychos.space/
Geez….
Get the Flatearth Calendar app.
Oh gee whiz, first you heard of it? Shame on you.
Life here in Amelika sure is spinning out of control.
Winter is coming!
Until about 2015, I was never even aware that there were moon landing “deniers” who believed it was all a hoax.
While I am not yet 100% sold on the hoax theory, I find completely plausible now, on the face of what’s presented here, HSF’s repeated postings and observations, and particularly due to what’s happened that past 20-odd years
for a full, in-depth analysis of all of the impossibilities of the moon landing here is an amazing analysis.
Like HSF, I find the moon lander “hoax” to be the most obvious. That a duct tape and aluminum foil contraption could carry a volume of equipment in the tiny space, preserve astronaut life for several days, re-launch from the moon surface and dock with the orbiting capsule to return to earth is simply ridiculous.
PS: I also went from believer– to having questions, to having doubts, to finally acceptance that I had believed the absurd.
Plus how in the hell were they able to film the first steps on the moon when there was no one on the moon as well as everything else.
Having read the book “Dark Moon”, and a funny thing happened on the way to the moon (above link) and seen the hoax clues in the movie “The Shining’ and a Bond film. One would have to be brain dead to believe the moon landing story.
My wife’s father was chief engineer at Rockwell on their portion of the Apollo project. We never truly learned about the denials (and the mountains of evidence) until after he had passed away. Even his mother never believed that we landed on the moon, even though her son had worked on the project. My wife knows he went to work every day. He talked about what he could talk about, and no doubt something was built. But obviously the silos that everyone worked in on the project meant that very very few knew the entire story. A shame that we never got the chance to chat with him honestly about what he did or did not know/believe. He certainly had zero to say good about his WW2 experience in the Pacific theater. Lost the end of his thumb to the bolt on his M1. Said he never truly believed all the lies he heard during the war but was handed a book upon his discharge about the war that he said was pretty much 100% bullshit. I’m sure he had his doubts about the moon. His role was about the engineering, not any of the computer stuff and he had been building planes, so I suspect he likely felt the engineering was probably sound….but obviously that is only the tip of the iceberg of what it takes to get there and back.
Wait, hold on just one minute.
Are you suggesting that tin foil box didn’t land safely on the Moon the first time out of the box?
Why I never.
I was about 10 when my uncle took me to the nasa museum and i saw the thing that was supposed to go to the moon. It was a fucking giant jiffy pop. HSF is right. It actually looked like aluminum foil wrapped aroubd an erector set. My 10 year old brain decided right there that was a giant boondoggle.
It’s much more plausible, imo, the landing was faked than the earth is flat.
Donkey…so many lies…just remember “I told you so”!
There is a lot of “Confusion in the Cosmos”.
Mark- My copy comes tomorrow, hoping for new enlightenment.
BL…I look forward to what you think.
Mark,
I’ve got to learn this song. I play the geettar and I’d love the sheet music for it.
Donkey,
He rocks and his messages rolls!
He is bluesy and newsy.
He is seriously conspiracy.
That does seem dubious.
That’s because “we would go back to the moon in a nanosecond, but the technology was lost and it is hard to build it back up again.”
About as believable as all of us having to go back to flip phones because smartphone technology was lost and, gee, we just can’t seem to figure out how that stuff ever worked.
I get how many thought the moon landing happened,this was a popular item in those times(still is for some!).
Purple T , bruh, it’s got what kids crave…
Brondo!!! It has nutrients!
Electrolytes.
Vitamin A
You should wait until you are an adult to try that kind of “candy.” And always remember set and setting.
After having a “bad reaction” to that candy as a teen I don’t know if the adult version of me could handle that experience again.
Did you watch Bugs Bunny cartoons?
Particularly a completely dark room… just like the natives do when they use psilocybin or peyote
Blotter– makes the night sky especially amazing.
you might even see men on the moon
Joshua Tree, CA. The entire milky way was visible. Was staying at a friend’s house laying on a deck on the roof, with no lights anywhere. A truly divine experience.
DAMN I miss the 80’s…..
Not sure my stomach muscles could take it anymore though…..
timmy leary childhood photo
No human has eve set foot on the flat moon…there I said it. Flame away!!!
Does that mean that the moon really does have a dark side?
Matter of fact it’s all dark…..
right, Mr. Floyd.
The other NASA command and control center. What’s not to believe?
The Apollo Mission command and control
The ship control panel
Look at all the little gauges!
Measuring stuff!
LOLOLLL!
The cockpit of a Concorde jet 1969.
Huh? Stuff from the landing is still viable on the moon.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7269745/Satellite-images-items-left-Apollo-11-moon-landing-site-50-years-later.html
None of that stuff could be Photoshopped or otherwise edited into the image. Absolutely none of it!
Apparently we don’t have the technology to go to the Moon today. That is quite something to think about. You mean in 1969 we had it but we can in no way duplicate the effort. The truth is we couldn’t have transited the Van Allen Radiation belts without ending up with dead astronauts. I heard a young NASA scientist saying that we don’t have the ability yet to survive the radiation from space. We can do near Earth stuff apparently but NASA today does not know how to deal with the belts. Also Computer technology was not even sophisticated enough to pull it off. We created smart looking machines but in truth the storage and power could not have supported the mission. I am sorry my fiends we never went to the Moon. Maybe one of the biggest hoaxes in a great lineage of hoaxes perpetrated by the United States.
Second to what exactly the earth, space, etc. actually are.
It matters.
It appears we can do “near earth”, as in: planes. If the ISS was real, why the harnesses and CGI? I don’t think we can even do low earth orbit, manned or unmanned (=satellites).
“Satellite” communication is cell phone towers combined with atmospheric reflection and cables.
Study ham radio for fun!
Svarga- There is no cell phone signal out in the middle of the majority of Kentucky’s large lakes. Signal comes in strong when back to shore, how is that if we have satellite coverage? Yup, it’s cell towers.
Cell phones don’t use satellite, they use cell towers.
I don’t think you are proving what you think you are proving.
You need to read up on how cell phone/tower systems work.
You are right, I don’t know how Satellite TV and cell phone towers work.
Cell phones are not satellite phones. I personally used an Iridium satellite phone in Greenland at 81 degrees north. It worked and would change satellites just on schedule as advertised. The satellites it used were in a polar orbit. We flew back from Station NORD in a Twin Otter following the coast of Greenland. I did not see a single cell tower. When we got about halfway down the east coast we turned right and flew across the ice sheet from east to west landing in Kangerlussuaq. I have experienced 24-hour daylight. I have pointed satellite reflectors at different latitudes. I’m not sure how any of that works in the flat Earth scenario.
Well as of the iPhone 14 (the latest one) there is an emergency feature on it which will switch to satellite if you are in a remote area without cell coverage: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2022/09/apple-debuts-iphone-14-pro-and-iphone-14-pro-max/ So this might be a step in the right direction, as we really don’t need to use cell towers and such to access wireless signals; literally, you can rip it right out of the sky.
Were the satellites you used in geostationary polar orbits? I would be willing to bet they were/are, for the simple fact it is against international law for any orbital satellites, or any manned flights, to traverse the Earth from North to South Poles: everything must be on certain longitudes, and nothing past 0 percent on either latitudes.
What does this prove? Only that, for whatever reason, those who are running the show say we’re not allowed to go over the Earth, but around it is fine. I will not try to guess their intentions, but will speculate that what we are told is entirely different than whatever they are.
I took that picture at 30,000+ feet from a plane; at that altitude, I should be able to see the Earth’s curvature, right? I mean, that’s almost six miles up, there ought to be some evidence of a sphere at such a height.
Do you see anything other than flatness, with some puffy clouds on the horizon? Because that’s all I saw, and why I took the picture. All we know is what we can see, and that’s what I saw.
Does this mean the Earth is flat? I don’t know, but if it’s curved it must not be by much.
Apple iPhone 14: “Emergency SOS via satellite will be available to users in the US and Canada in November, and the service will be free for two years.”
I could be wrong, but that sounds more like a StarLink hookup to me, not a full-blown Iridium one.
Waiting for technical details to be released.
https://www.iridium.com/network/ no geostationary is in the same plane as the equator. 22,3000 elevation going the same speed as the rotation of the Earth.Do you have a citation for that international law? I don’t think that is accurate.
I was partly mistaken, RB — it is only over the South Pole that flyovers are not allowed, though flights which avoid Antarctica are allowed.
I find that in itself remarkable, don’t you?
Are satellites and GPS what you’ve been told they are? There’s some interesting info out there.
Cap’n O asks: “Were the satellites you used in geostationary polar orbits?
There is no such thing as geostationary POLAR orbits. Geostationary orbits are only possible over the equator.
I stand corrected.
I still wonder how any of this is possible. None of it makes sense to me. I’m not smart enough to talk about the stuff I do, so I just throw it out there so people like you can make sense of it!
Instead of posting bullshit you don’t understand as facts, maybe try asking a question instead of making utter fucking bullshit statements as you have in this thread.
Fuck you, you Anonymous bitch, I’m sick of you just going around insulting people.
Keyboard warriors like you and your fellow plants can suck a dick and eat it too. Punk bitch.
We both know if we were face-to-face you would not be saying these things.
But you would internet tough guy? Is that the implication? Do you not apply these standards to yourself, you little bitch? Just expect others to?
I note you did not address the fact that you are posting total bullshit in a manner that makes it look like a statement of fact. You come off as stupid or a liar.
Maybe bother to check what you are going to post is correct BEFORE posting it, so you don’t look like such a moronic fucktard. Or continue to look like a moronic fucktard. I will be here to point it out.
Yet you do so anyway. Sure sign of a fuckwit.
Here’s a picture from a helicopter flying over Mount Everest:
Again, not a lot of curvature there.
Complete and utter bullshit. FFS. There are plenty of polar orbit satellites.
Maybe try a search for “polar orbit satellites” before you respond too. NOAA has two. There are others.
https://www.ssec.wisc.edu/datacenter/polar_orbit_tracks/
Also, unless you care to admit you have posted BS, please cite the “law” your refer to.
Hmmm. Seems the fuckwit Captin_Obviously_Full_Of_Shit does not care to cite the law.
You sir, are a liar.
(not that I really expected much from someone who can’t spell obvious correctly)
6 miles up? On a 8000+ mile diameter sphere? And you expect to see the curvature?
Switch to satellite? That is misleading. Maybe read (and make an effort at comprehension) the article instead of just assuming it does what you imply.
It will use satellite for SOS, not for calls.
RB- That’s not what the TV told me, the ads said coverage even in the high Himalayas in a snow storm. That was years ago, maybe they lied. So, they spent millions upon millions of dollars sending up satellites for the VERY, VERY FEW people who have Iridium Satellite phones? Sure, that makes perfect sense.
Evidently satellites are actually dirigibles. I have to look into this further to confirm it.
That is why the Artemis payload is 4 human-shaped phantoms to measure radiation exposure instead of live astronauts.
And ALL of the engineering drawings are gone.
All of them.
The greatest engineering achievement of mankind
some how vanished into thin air….
Why are we sending a probe to the moon to measure the Van Allen Belt radiation if we went there numerous times 50+ years ago?
Because we have better technology to measure with now?
Why do we need to measure it at all?
We “went to the moon” about a dozen times.
With a dune buggy when people were getting bored too!
That ‘ole radiation is perfectly safe.
Artist- Yeah, and that dune buggy could fold up six ways come Sunday into almost nothing like a cheap WalMart lawn chair. Motor and all, like magick.
Anyone ever seen them unfold that vehicle?
To expand our knowledge?
Flat earth and moon landings… One can be proven, dispelling all doubt, the other possibly.
Time to pony up and lay to rest this flat earth conundrum. But I know ya’ll won’t.
A chartered jet and a pilot willing to fly the course is all thats needed. The pilot I posted is willing to fly and a chartered flight is not that expensive. If it were to expensive then I seriously doubt Las Vegas would continue chartered flights from canukuistan to LV in a heartbeat.
There literally is NO excuse to not charter a flight over the Antarctic, or close enough to it to see it clearly, going from S America to Australia, or vice versa.
But that would take all the fun out of arguing the flat earth then… Maybe the other test, a little more dangerous, is to get everyone to run to one side of the flat planet and see if it tips over… then we’ll also get to see what the flat earth is sitting on, for a few minutes.
It is interesting that if such a flight was attempted (and IMO it would need to head directly over the south pole), permission wold be denied by the governments in control down there and if the flight came anyway, I have read that unauthorized activities would be stopped and likely the flight would even be forced to land or shot down. That certainly says something about some type of secret being kept away from the general populace.
No… It wouldn’t matter if you flew directly over the pole, why would that matter. Flying over the ice sheet anywhere IS close enough to prove or disprove the flat earth. Just because the govt doesn’t want you to overfly an area doesn’t prove a thing… can you overfly area 51, the white house, any number of places are restricted. SO what, that doesn’t have anything to do with ‘flat earth’.
I’ll post the video here again. But consider, on a flat earth the flight would take 20+ hours of flight and X number of gallons of fuel. On a polar overflight it would be considerably shorter and much less fuel. Very easy to prove, regardless of whether you fly directly over the pole of not.
The ‘can’t fly over the pole’ excuse doesn’t cut muster. Imagining the govt would [prevent it, isn’t a valid excuse. If the flight is planned, and the pilot HAS to submit a flight plan, if it got denied then you and your money are safe and TPTB will have some splain’n to do. Pretty sure the pilot willing to fly the plane isn’t to eager to die to prove the earth is flat.
My captain friend at SeaSpan showed me a simple explanation and calculation of “Great Circle” navigation once. It seems to work, which would not be possible if the earth was flat.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great-circle_navigation
Any sailors here? Any with navigation experience? Can they explain better?
This portion of the flat earth and moon hoax debates never goes anywhere when it come to putting your money where you mouth is… Flat earthers avoid it at all ‘costs’…
Funny how that mirrors the covid scam.
People are people and even the “best” still fool themselves and have egos and image they feel the need to protect.
The hardest words for any naked ape to utter are apparently “I was wrong”.
They would rather be double down and continue to be wrong, than admit they were ever wrong.
People suck.
What I do is look at the ocean and see a boat disappear over the curve at about 16 miles. I learned this in school. Then I look through a camera etc and see it again!
Now someone will say it’s a mirage….
As an OOD on my ship, a person 5’10” standing on the bridge could see 18 miles to the horizon. I was that tall and could see the ships appearing and disappearing over the horizon at that distance. Ship was an auxiliary at 18,000 tons, 475 ft long with 85′ beam.
That argument goes both ways Brian. Hire the plane. Prove us wrong.
PS — brian (as stated in his comment above) likens this flight, in terms of cost, to a trip between Vancouver and Las Vegas. But the distance from V to LV wouldn’t even get you out of South America from Buenos Aires, the proposed starting location; and the total flight (to Australia) would be probably be like 18-20 hours. And that’s not even going over the heart of Antarctica, which really is required — contrary to his protestation.
So this flight would likely cost $700-800 thousand, even if one could get fly that flight path… which you can’t. The pilot in the video knows that it is restricted, so he is being disingenuous.
I’ve said this before but I’ll repeat to try and Penetrate the 2 dimensional mind. We perceive reality in 3 dimensional space. Time maybe another but let’s ignore that argument for now. In our 3 dimensional perception the earth is a sphere. In a 4th dimensional perception who knows what it looks like. If you have a 2 dimensional brain then yes to you the earth is flat.
This would only hold true if you were not willing to find the truth. You would have to willing remain ignorant otherwise face the pain of either admitting you were wrong or ignore the pain in spite of facts and carry on trying to mentally prop up the sham… Which would indicate an intellectual dishonesty that really serves no purpose, imo…
Another argument that goes both ways, Brian. Plus you project intellectual dishonesty on us pizza Earthers before you pony up.
Christ is crucified on a teserac, a fourth dimensional crucifix in S Dali’s magnificent “Crucifixion.”
https://executiveflyers.com/why-cant-you-fly-over-antarctica/#:~:text=There%20are%20no%20commercial%20flight,and%20land%20on%20the%20continent.
So you are saying that because theres no place to land and because the Antarctic gets bad weather nobody overflys the S. polar region?!?
So thats a very good reason to not pony up and actually lay to rest, this can’t fly over the S pole but its OK to overfly the N pole because you can land a plane there and the weather is obviously nicer.
So the offer to fly anyone over the S pole is either a hollow offer or perhaps its a super secret govt effort to kidnap those that are woke enough to see thru the earth is a globe psyop and shoot them down, thereby eliminating all those who could expose the govt plot… Whoa… definitely prudent to never take up THAT offer to prove the rock we live on is anything other than flat…
BUT… We’ve all seen the flat earth maps… in the article it states that a flight from either Australia or S America would take approx 16hrs accomplish. The 747 can do this. What would the flight time be for a flat earth flight to the same landing destinations???
And how would you hide the flights over land without people recognizing land features along the way?? How would you fly the added hours without a fuel stop?? If you are given the volumetric weight of the fuel on takeoff and again on landing a simple math calculation will quickly confirm the trip taken.
Anyway you cut it and post articles saying it can’t/won’t be possible mean nothing. The offer is on the table and a pilot willing to fly all flat earthers to prove or disprove it once and for all… and ALL that happens is people posting stupid articles stating the weather is to bad and I ‘imagine’ the govt won’t allow it… pretty lame really…
“So you are saying that because theres no place to land and because the Antarctic gets bad weather nobody overflys the S. polar region?!?”
No. Hardscrabble isn’t saying that. He didn’t write that article. He’s saying that’s what THEY say as the reason.
Apologies D Julianus. I made my above reply to Brian before seeing you covered it already.
No problem 🙂
No problem with the fake moon landing totally plausible but to fake every satellite image and all those star link satellite going around in circles. Fucking hilarious.
Looks flat on my screen and I put a straight edge on it too and its flat…. Therefore the earth is flat… boom…
Every other observable celestial body is clearly an orb.
But just our world is flat.
OK.
Holograms…….. yup, all holograms to fool us.
Still not clear on what motive there would be by what actors to fool us, but yup, holograms to make us see thing that are not there……
I see this claim made repeatedly and no matter how many times it is pointed out that there are exceptions, no one ever seems to take note.
The rings around Saturn appear to be a flat surface made up of solid objects, yet not having formed into a sphere. They are in space and they are- allegedly-real. Do you deny the existence of the rings or are our eyes unable to properly perceive that they are actually a globe which only appear to be a circular plane?
Asteroids. These too are celestial bodies and they are not spheres but rather irregular shaped objects.
Do you deny their shape and existence?
And that’s just in our solar system. With all of the alleged trillions of stars, galaxies, systems and elements, surely there must be other examples if one is to adhere to the current theoretical nature of cosmology.
Clearly not every observable celestial body is an orb.
Our limitation is that we live upon this particular surface with no ability to rise far enough above it to accurately ascertain the factual nature of its shape/size/configuration. We must instead rely upon agencies that repeatedly make false claims and create fictional representations and neither admit it when caught, nor show contrition when it is pointed out.
Most people are able to put that aside and place their trust in such people, it isn’t something I am able to do and so I keep wondering.
Is this sarcasm or a real offering of proof? If proof it’s hilarious.
You are correct Brian. A simple flight over the South Pole from one Antarctic coast to the other would would absolutely refute flat Earth.
Wonder why they won’t allow it?
Rammstein for the win! (It never gets old.)
The title of this article, based on most of the comments, should have been ===> Mental Masturbation For The Easily Deluded.
Not doing farm work this weekend?
Of course they were fake. The moon is just a holographic image designed to hide the fact the earth is flat, the sun isn’t really hot and nuclear power doesn’t exist.
oh are you funning us all!?!?
Read all this, and play with the model afterwards if you have time. The Tychos model makes sense to me… (FWIW)
Earth relatively motionless, being at the center of the solar system..
The model he created follows past celestial motions, and accurately predicts future motions, especially the retrogrades, which the accepted sun center model does not..
https://www.tychos.space/
You might want to move over to the flat earth crowd as that has far more credibility than this….
So you did not read any of the links..
Every observed star is binary.
I approached this with, duh of course the sun is the center, and read this with an open mind.
GFY. Read and refute or STFU.
It doesn’t take much of any thought to see that this premise is entirely stupid, in its entirety. It ONLY makes sense when you don’t factor in ANY measurable data from satellite or probe missions… opps forgot space ain’t real and probes were never sent off into space…
The very model right at the beginning is enough to warn me that everything else there is hog wash and not worth a minute of my time. FROM the model shown, and its a model with garbage in and garbage out, they are saying that every other planet and our Sun has a weaker gravitational pull than our planet… If THAT doesn’t set off alarm bells nothing will…
You might want to approach this with the mind of gravitational pull, observed galactic formations, observed planetary movement around other solar bodies by their gravitational wobbles… You know, scientific processes instead of just lame computer models that likely use the climate change models used to prove we’re all doomed.
So, with the cold war in full swing; with the Soviets desperate to beat the USA to the moon; with the Soviets desperate to make the USA look like fools; with the Soviets desperate to prove that the USA would have to fake the moon landings… do you not think that the Soviets would have plastered the fakery far and wide if they had any proof? They had their own radar and tracking system up and running; the only problem was, their rocket blew up on the launch pad. What were they to do with their radar and tracking system? You guessed it: track the USA flights to the moon in the hope of proving the USA was pulling a fast one on the world. Get over it; the landings were real.
Not necessarily a good argument Earl. If your enemy is squandering hundreds of millions/billions on some adventure it would mean they aren’t spending money on military equipment. Silence on their part doesn’t equate to proof of anything… it just adds to a few more questions…
In your scenario the USA could have sent a rocket to the moon, empty. The Russians would have had no way to know if the landing happened or not. The tech was way too primitive for anything more than seeing a “blip” go to the moon.
Or the Russians were faking shit too and did not want to risk outing the methods both countries used.
Or the US paid them off some way.
Or……….. any number of other possibilities.
I am not sure what exactly happened, but your certainty is nothing but faith and lack of imagination, IMO.
Yes, Earl, you’re right, the landings were real. So are Stormy Daniels’ tits.
Now don’t cloud the issue with facts!
It gets better when you ask the moonhoaxers where is the borderline between real and hoax.
Are rocket launches real? The space shuttle? The ISS?
Gemini/Apollo docking and EVA, in Earth orbit?
Can we fly satellites around the moon or Mars, even 50 years ago?
And so on…
Then it all comes down to their absolute last line of defense: the insurmountable Van Allen belt.
WARNING: This post may contain traces of sarcasm.
I am open to the possibility. There is a question no one has answered however. There was more than one moon landing so they are all fake? That’s a lot of people to keep the secret. just sayin.
Hamlet has been seen on many stages, countless times in the past four centuries. It’s been done over and over again, so you’re going to tell me it’s not real and just people pretending or something? That’s a lot of actors keeping a secret.
Horrible analogy but extremely funny nonetheless.
This is amazing. Thank you so much for writing about it.
For all the flat earthers… Heres an estimate on a charter cost…
Boeing BBJ/MD 83 commonly available
Based on… Nov 14 2022 – Nov 28 2022
Buenos Aires (SAEZ) to Melbourne (YMML)
200 passengers
Cost of the charter, airplane, fees, fuel, crew, everything – 301K – 365,900
Seating 60 – 160 passenger…
So assuming the higher cost and maxing the passengers is…
$2,280 some odd dollars… plus you get a holiday thrown in…
Time to ante in and prove once and for all the flat earth… but I doubt any will… as usual.
Evojets estimate page
https://www.metabunk.org/threads/flat-earth-theory-debunked-by-short-flights-qf27-qf28-from-australia-to-south-america.6483/
http://www.whale.to/c/Dave%20McGowan%20-%20Wagging%20The%20Moon%20Doggie.pdf
Anyone can prove the Earth is not spinning using a quality gyroscope on your dining room table. If the Earth were spinning at a rate of one revolution per day the gyro would indicate it. But it doesn’t.
Even a cheap kids toy gyro placed on a globe will show what would happen if the Earth revolved.
A pilot sets the plane’s gyro in New York and flies to London without any recalibration of the high quality gyro found in the cockpit. New York and London are perfectly level with one another.
Same with the gyro in a submarine.
I am not seeing where you explain,
How would it indicate it?
My grandmother said it was fake at the time, everyone just rolled their eyes, turns out she was right all along
Mine too! She was also right about evolution.
Moar crazy shit astronomy newz.
NASA is about to crash a satellite into an asteroid … program is call DART. They want to protect the Earth from a rogue asteroid … like the one that killed off the Dino Sores.
— It is NOT an attempt to destroy the asteroid … as in retarded Bruce Willis movies.
— They just want to see if they can nudge it off course just a wee little bit.
— This little “nudge” accumulates over time, and so the hope is that an asteroid that would hit earth, will now miss it.
— How MUCH time is needed? Oh …. about 10-20 years!!
— Does NASA have a way to know which of millions of asteroids will hit the earth 10-20 years from now? No. This is what is known as HWHAP (Houston We Have A Problem).
— The satellite is about the size of a refrigerator and weighs about 1,200 pounds. It will smash into the asteroid at a speed of 14,000 mph.
— The asteroid is quite small, but still weighs an estimated 10+ billion pounds. (This would be like a gnat punching Mike Tyson … and hoping Iron Mike falls down in 10 years.)
— The cost of this experiment is $350 million.
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Interesting update from Bart Sibrel on his interaction(s) with CIA operatives.
https://worldjewishcongress.org/en/bio/carl-sagan