RIP FLEABAGGS

Fleabaggs has passed away. Mary Christine sent me this picture from last year and I’m reposting his article as a tribute. There were pictures in the original article, but it looks like Google censored them somehow. 

My War, by Fleabaggs

From Fleabaggs, a Vietnam War veteran:

I have started to write this a hundred times in 49 years. I would like to have used Our War but don’t want to presume to speak for all us Nam Vets still alive who were really there for a year or more. Nor can I speak for all the families of Nam Vets and all the millions of Vietnamese whose major crime was living in Vietnam at the time.

I do presume to speak for myself and my dead buddies who told me their stories as we commiserated in a dark corner of a seedy gin mill where we had been banished. I do presume to speak for some of the families I knew and my mother and the civilians who had an impact on me while I was there. I’m going to show you a picture of a few whose story never made it to the U.S. It’s shocking so stop here if you want to remain comfortably absolved in your sweet fantasy of non-involvement. This is not about “ME,” it’s about us.

Please indulge me while I set the terms of engagement here. I’m not worried about what you think of me or my views. When I say ‘THEY’ you know who “THEY” are so don’t jerk my chain with that kind of stuff. Go back to the Miley video you were watching. When I say “YOU” you know if you are “YOU” or not. If you are not “YOU,” but are offended that I might mean you, go to your therapist and ask her how you became such a thin-skinned oversensitive little prick.

This is not a Rambo story either. For the majority of us guys who were there from Jan. 68 onward, shooting and being shot at was the easy part. The hard part was the rest of what war is about. If you were in Khe Son in 68 or something like that, then yes that was hard. And just to qualify that I know what I’m talking about, I’ve been pinned so low by some guy with a 47 that I was scooping a hole with my cheekbone to get my head lower as my hair was being parted. I was also on my feet moving around 22 or 23 hours a day with very little food. When we got 1 or 2 hours to rest we were so wired we couldn’t sleep. We found a spot to lay down and listen to our heart pound and then back on our feet for 3 weeks straight. TWICE.

Combine that with having seen the proof that it was all staged and I cracked up. When I came to I was trying to choke a buddy and I just started bawling uncontrollably. I was never the same again. In hindsight I realize I made a choice to never feel ever again and set out to do just that.

One of my closest buddies from school got drafted and found himself in Bumdeal Vietnam where nothing ever happened. He’s standing in a wet trench in the Monsoon for hours every day waiting for nothing to happen. Then he gets to go back to a smelly sandbag hooch to rest and his buddy is escaping to La La Land with some pot and a squeeze tube of morphine from a kit. 3 months later he’s sharpening his needle on a nail file and cooking smack over a Zippo, wondering how this happened. He’ll be able to quit pretty easy when he gets home he thought. But I just can’t go back out there tonight without it. Just 8 more months. On the flight home he gathered up what little dignity and self-respect he had left, thinking that he was still a hero for sticking it out. A month later that little shred of hope was gone.

He had no idea how he killed that many old women and babies without remembering at least some of the details. So much for the quitting. 2 years later he died with a needle in his arm. I’m not excusing our bad decisions after we saw the farce that it was. I’m saying that was what happened and that we had lots of help getting to that point. We were not going to disgrace our families by deserting or going to Leavenworth and getting a BCD. So we put on our best pair of man pants, sucked it up and muddled through.

We were typical of the other vets I knew who are gone or are so far into the psychiatric machine they will likely never resurface. We all fell off a Norman Rockwell calendar and into a bankers’ war. It never occurred to us that the government would lie to start a war. Why should we? Our parents would think God lied before they would believe the government would lie. Presidents and Congressman lied sometimes, but not the U.S. government.

We left thinking we were heroes. Our moms gushed with pride at us in our uniforms, the girls went ga ga, we were part of something we could believe in, we marched to John Philip Sousa in boot camp, life was good.  Here is something I posted to describe what it was like for me and so many others I knew. Some people online were giving what I thought were moralizing sermons when they commented on the anniversary of the Mar.16 My Lai massacre and Lt. Calley.

I was there for the 68 TET offensive, the counter offensive and 2 mini Tets. I would never dream of sitting down next to a woman who is 8 months pregnant in the august heat and say “I know how you feel Darlin”. when you’ve been shot at from 50 ft. by someone you can’t see and are required to call in for permission to shoot back. When 2 little boys blow themselves up while trying to blow you up, when you see one of their arms twitching 30 ft. away. When you go without sleep or food while on your feet moving around for 3 weeks twice. When you see Westy dining with Raquel Welch in the light of a patio and you’re heart and guts and balls ache so bad you cry inside. when someone at the airport tries to gently tell you that you have white hippy spit down the back of your Dress Blues. When 45 years later that same liberal hippy wearing birkenstocks extends his faggy hand and says “THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE”. When your family is ashamed of you. When you are treated like a freak at the VA Hospital and you have to see a shrink just to get medical attention. When you no longer have anything to believe in and you fall into booze and drug induced self pity, laying in the gutter with your pants full of crap and you piss yourself just for the warm feeling. When you’re down to 100 pounds with no teeth in a dark parking lot trying to give a blowjob for a drink or a hit. When you cry your heart out wondering what the hell is wrong with you. When you just murdered your dog for protecting your sweet mother over not giving you more drinking money. When she looks at you with hurt and despair and says “how could anything like you come out of my womb. When you’ve turned your back on a desperate woman begging for money with a dead baby because you were brainwashed into thinking she was going to buy weapons with a crummy dollar while never thinking she may have a live baby to feed in an alley somewhere. Then I’ll talk to you about Lt. Cally.   You didn’t rob my buddy and the rest of us of what little dignity we had remaining. You ripped it out of our souls violently and left a gaping sucking wound that never healed. It scabbed over a little but we could always feel it. Meanwhile you let the bankers off free. Some of you didn’t mistreat us but you didn’t defend us. How many of you canceled you accounts in protest or sold your stocks or did anything but lower your eyes and say “I don’t want to hear about that”.

Most of that was from my own story but others turned it inwardly. I never had the opportunity to do what Calley did while on duty. But after my crack up I did indeed take the low road off duty with some American civilians because I knew I could, so I don’t claim sainthood. I was young and wanted to repay someone or anyone. I took the evil and the evil took me. It made me it’s Bitch. It took me places I didn’t want to go and did things I didn’t want to do with people I didn’t want to do it with.

Many more committed a 100 forms of suicide. Violence, drugs, booze, etc. Few did what I did. Before any of that happened though I would like to show you some pictures of what we saw frequently after Tet. Refugees coming in by the thousands from burned out villages with nowhere to go except to the next large village until they reached the bigger cities. We had no idea how to cope with what we saw. 3 months of SERE training don’t prepare you for this kind of suffering. An old man and 2 old women in an alley where he is offering sex with them in desperation. The look on their faces. The woman I mentioned with the dead baby. She was too old to sell her body but not old enough to get the pity of an old Mama San.

When I got home people told me I was exaggerating or lying. Do you have any idea how bad that knife feels. The 2 kids in the top picture would most likely end up like the one in the bottom. This was done to him purposely. We saw hundreds of these kids who were maybe 9 or 10. How the one in this picture lived this long is a genuine miracle. They had their bones broken and reset in the most horrible positions but always with one hand able to beg for money. Then they were starved to the point where a leg would look like your thumb. After that they were dragged out at daylight and dragged in at dark for the rest of their unfortunate lives. They were wherever there were Americans with money. This was done with our full knowledge and consent. How? All the reporters, politicians, bureaucrats, USO performers and Top Brass saw this and yet it never got reported to my knowledge.

The kids who were cute and unscarred were sold to the sex vendors for sex and torture or anything the new owner wanted. If we break down into chaos because of any of the 100 train wrecks coming and you are separated from your kids and you don’t think this will happen to them, you might want to rethink that. Make arrangements for them even if you don’t believe it will happen here. If you had the money you could buy anything in Saigon. I’ll give you just one of many reasons I know what I know. I shacked up with the sister of the vice president’s mistress for 3 months. There was no welfare or self pity checks over there.

Life would chew you up in a New York minute. She had a kid in a convent to pay for in the Philippines. I’m not willing to incriminate myself explaining the money for that or where I got so much info on the real deal. I was young, adventurous, outgoing and curious and people have always wanted to confide in me. I never ask, I let them talk and I don’t violate their inner sanctuary by laughing or putting them down or analyzing them by running it through my sick mind and telling them what they really just said.

Then there were the feral children all over. In spite of my determination not to feel again they always won our hearts over. The affection and care they had for each other in spite of everything was heart warming. They knew the deal and they weren’t about to be caught by the goon squads. No one that I knew could avoid seeing these kinds of things very long and after 3 months here we all knew how phony it all was. Seeing all these people suffer over it just made it harder for us to cope with. After we got home and endured the abuse heaped on us there was no longer anything to believe in for most of us. The results of that kind of demoralization was felt by our families in ways we will never fully know. I went to visit the parents of some of my buddies before the funeral as was the custom for close friends. It’s impossible to describe the hurt and despair. These were the nice guys, not the selfish wretches like me.

I think it’s timely that I waited this long to write this. We haven’t learned from watching this new group of our youth coming home perhaps even more messed up than we were. We seem hell bent on sending even more “over there” to make the world safe. Our own country is nearing civil war and I read comments online of a kind of eagerness to see it that troubles me. I don’t think that group of people knows what that will be like. Killing a fellow human being is incredibly hard, ugly and messy. It will follow you forever and if you do it because you could instead of because you had to, which many will do. I can only pray that it won’t be one of you reading this. There is a fine line between defense and just meanness because you know you can get away with it.

I’m done now. I wanted to write more but it’s not there. I made a promise to God that I would do whatever I thought he wanted me to do fearlessly for the rest of my life to make up for the evil I did in the old one. I don’t know if I have yet but when I do face him shortly I will be able to say I was no coward in these 35 years of peace he has given this undeserving wretch. I was never presumptuous enough to ask him to let me in heaven, I only asked for freedom from the torment in this life and he granted it. I have never taken a dime of anyone’s crazy money or the meds that go with it. Please don’t insult me with that welcome home stuff or thank you for your service stuff. I don’t play that.

I would like to thank Mr. Robert Gore of Straight Line Logic and gifted wordsmith who will soon be the first N.Y. Times best selling author residing in Gitmo for helping me with this and getting it posted. Also the people on TBP who encouraged me to do it.

Sincerely,

Crazy uncle Frankie Fleabaggs who lives in the attic.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
October 3, 2022 9:14 pm

The Eyes. It’s Always in the eyes, until the flame is gone. ‘Temporarily’ 🤣

You’re sleeping. my close held belief. You’ll be again, when the shout and the trump is heard.

If i EVER wear a tie again? Thanks. For a fashion STATEMENT.

Amen, Epic Poster

bigfootmm
bigfootmm
October 3, 2022 9:15 pm

The only thing we know without doubt is that we are conscious of being conscious. That consciousness enters the body sometime after birth and leaves the body at death. During the life of the body we are meant to discover the “kingdom of god” and that we are not the body but are spiritual beings. Consciousness after death of the body is a time of reflection and is peaceful, but no new thinking is done. At some point what we are, consciousness, chooses to come back to a new body for the purpose of discovering what is so that the body becomes immortal as is consciousness. The challenges and time are chosen, and even the length of life. Flea did his duty and is just fine.
For a greater and clearer explanation see Harold Percival: Man and Woman and Child. Note that the story of Jesus fits with Percival’s insight (that came to him unbidden). Jesus: “The Kingdom of God is within you.”

DS
DS
October 3, 2022 9:22 pm

Rest in Peace, Flea — I hope that you have found comfort, with God welcoming you home, after battling so hard for so many years. You will be missed by many here at TBP.

nkit
nkit
October 3, 2022 9:38 pm

Wow. A picture truly is worth a thousand words..I see a Flea I never saw in his words, which were often acidic, intentional and cold. While I know I was not someone you gave a shit about, rest in peace you old curmudgeon. You will be missed on TBP. Godspeed.

Llpoh
Llpoh
October 3, 2022 9:50 pm

Well fuck. That sucks. We didn’t always see eye to eye, but close enough the differences didn’t matter, at least in my opinion. I liked the cantankerous old coot. I will miss him.

Obbledy
Obbledy
October 3, 2022 10:03 pm

Its real people like him that make this place tick Rest in Peace,yoy will be missed!

Martelshammer
Martelshammer
October 3, 2022 10:24 pm

I always had immense respect for Flea. We didn’t agree all the time and had some big fights a long time ago…..but after those battles I just ignored the comments I disagreed with and upvoted the rest. Rest In Peace Fleabaggs you made TBP a better place and helped us to look at the places in ourselves we feel uncomfortable thinking about.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
October 3, 2022 10:25 pm
just a man
just a man
October 3, 2022 10:36 pm

RIP Flea. I had a brief email exchange with the man and it was awesome. I feel he would want you all to hear his words.

Date: 12/19/21 12:11 AM (GMT-05:00)
Amazingly, since we last talked I’ve had my best week in ages. It’s possible it’s air quality related because we’ve had a good week for that. The wood smoke can get pretty heavy here.
Whenever I post links to anything theological I try to vett them and issue appropriate warnings. I forgot to do that with this one.
https://emahiser.christogenea.org/patriarchal-chronology with the patriarchal lineage. For someone so extensively schooled in theology and history with such a good mastery of Hebrew and Greek who published his own New testament to hold blacks and asians in such contempt on air it gives me pause. How can we be a blessing and spread the gospel to all the world if we don’t think Our Lord allows them to receive the gift of salvation. What would be the purpose?
I mention him because he has put together the most extensive archives of anyone I’m aware of regarding two seedline and has, free of charge made the complete archives of other credible seedline scholars available. It’s a bit hard for me to navigate but for those with any computer skills at all it’s not so hard.

The first thing I would recommend is pray fervently that I’m wrong about us entering the Tribulation. I wish I were wrong. Secondly but equally important is try your best to teach and instruct your kids. You are already doing that but I need to stress the importance of it.
They will forgive you for mistakes but not for not trying in the available time you have with them.
Teach them to mean what they say or don’t say it and explain why it hurts the person they make a promise to if they have no intention of fulfilling it. Teach them to do the little things during their day that are in front of them to make the world a little better than it was when they were born.
Explain things with parables or metaphors when you teach scripture to them. I remember on the rare occasion we went to church, hearing the story of Lot and Ruth leaving and Ruth being turned into a pillar of salt for just looking around. Not understanding what was being said scared me so bad at such a young age I immediately started trying to deny God’s existence and left me with no faith to fall back on when I went crazy during the 68 Tet offensive. I had no one to ask what it meant back then because my parents never talked to us beyond barking orders. 7 kids and never once did either of our parents ever say hello in the morning. We stumbled through our youth not knowing even the most basic things so we would do it wrong 3 or 4 times until we found something that seemed to work. Talk about insecure.
We were never scolded and told why something was wrong and punishment was random but severe. What was ok yesterday could get you whipped today and don’t dare ask why. We were never touched once we were past a month old when we were weaned. I only know about the weaning from my eldest sister who was our surrogate mother. They never once said I love you or even I like you.
Sounds fantastic but later when I sobered up and became a Christian and began comparing notes with others my age it turns out we weren’t the only ones. A lot of today’s ill’s can be laid at the feet of the parents of the boomers.
Finally teach them “MAN’ stuff. Give them a good quality lock back knife and show them how to sharpen it. Every boy had a pocket knife and matches when I was a kid. Me and my brother got ours from our uncles and one gave us an old twelve gauge double barrel. Tell them why a man needs to be a man. Most kids my age grew up at the beginning of feminisms rise and were never told why women need strong men. Women feed off our confidence. It’s an aphrodisiac to them because they are insecure by nature. They need to feel protected first and foremost. They want us to have a plan so they can hitch their wagon to our star so to speak. They don’t want a man who is indecisive or easy to get. Hope that helps.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  just a man
October 4, 2022 6:52 am

That is such a typical Flea reply it ju`st about made me cry on the way to my surgery. He was actually quite wise.

Thanks for posting that.

RiNS
RiNS
  Mary Christine
October 4, 2022 8:48 am

Hi Mary

Just wondering if you have access to fleas email… I would love to read what he wrote to me last week.

If so please send to

[email protected]

Thanks

Rob

Svarga Loka
Svarga Loka
  just a man
October 4, 2022 7:22 am

I am just amazed at the amount of people who have back-door personal interactions with each other outside of the public forum. It is like a secret club I was never invited into.

mark
mark
  Svarga Loka
October 4, 2022 3:20 pm

Svarga,

I e-mail and talk to at least 10 regulars.

One of them is coming over for a visit on the 14th!

Svarga Loka
Svarga Loka
  mark
October 4, 2022 3:49 pm

And I think of you almost every day when I fire up my laptop that I bought used on your advice! Thanks again.

Ghost
Ghost
  Svarga Loka
October 4, 2022 6:12 pm

folks here tend to post their email addys from time to time and occasionally, someone sees it and makes contact…

I am [email protected] until you email me and then I give you another, but I still manage a page on Face/Snoop Book called See Mo’ Bootheel Friends and old pal and I came up with (See More Bootheel Friends punned upon the SEMO RedBirds or whatever they are at Cape Girardeau.)

There are a couple of Missouri Bootheelians on here and they are from Poplar Bluff to Charleston, I believe.

So [email protected] finds me out here in the suburbs of the sticks in Podunk, Nowhere, Ozarks Missouri.

Raising natural carrots and Kale for natural rabbits… If you find yourself in the region, and know where Patton Junction is… there is a little store called the Butcher Block there where they sell guns and ammo on Tuesday or Thursday (or when Ron is in the store) and have the best deli meat around anywhere. Go ask about the rabbit lady and they will give me a call.

That’s pretty much how it works out here in the suburbs of the sticks.

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And this is my Giant Flemish. I’m letting her dig a natural burrow for her litter in my backyard. She made a tunnel underneath her crate/kennel (I use giant dog crates for her and her daughter, but I’m letting “Big Sis” plan her own nest for the next litter.)

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The local farm store that buys/sells my rabbits is going to let me bring Mom and kits in for a photo shoot. I’m going to brand my rabbits… perhaps See Mo’ Bootheel Bunnies. But, you would have to know the history of the swamp rabbits in the Missouri Bootheel to get it.

Hmmmm….

Rest in Peace, Fleabaggs.

You made a difference for a lot of people and that’s the best any of us can hope to do.

Card802
Card802
  just a man
October 4, 2022 8:37 am

Flea could have gone down a deep dark hole with his early life and what VietNam did to him.

What an amazing man he turned himself into. Too bad we only learn these things after the person is gone.
But that in itself is a way to learn and to change and to help others which helps us all.

Svarga Loka
Svarga Loka
  just a man
October 4, 2022 9:42 am

I´ll prove you wrong.

Btw, are you easy to get?

Svarga Loka
Svarga Loka
  Svarga Loka
October 4, 2022 3:52 pm

It could mean whatever you want it to mean. I am too insecure by nature to tell.

Btw, I am waiting for admin to post something uninteresting, like a new T-shirt, so I can hijack the thread for my musings about what it is like in Germany right now. Watch out for that one.

Svarga Loka
Svarga Loka
  Svarga Loka
October 4, 2022 4:04 pm

“Germans suck.”

Done. Posted what you wanted to hear. Posted about the Germans. All in one sentence. Abigail would be proud, because words matter.

Svarga Loka
Svarga Loka
  Svarga Loka
October 4, 2022 4:37 pm

Time to go to bed. My jokes not working. Sorry.

Let the world burn
Let the world burn
October 4, 2022 2:15 am

Such a great wine, one that is not only rich with pain, sorrow, and regret but also with the strength of not choosing the easy way out. Thanks, old dude. Your memory is the greatest thing that you left for your fellow man and for humanity in general. I will let my children know about this and make sure they appreciate such a flavor.

Ouirphuqd
Ouirphuqd
October 4, 2022 7:27 am

Miss him, the humanity he projected can never be duplicated by those who wish to rule us. I offer a toast and a tear, you will always be a part of me.

Robert Gore
Robert Gore
October 4, 2022 8:23 am

My only regret about Fleabaggs was that I didn’t get to talk to him one last time. “My War” remains the best thing I ever posted and I talked with Frank several times through the years. I’ll probably have more to say, but at this point I’m just processing. He’s with God.

RiNS
RiNS
October 4, 2022 8:44 am

He wrote me an email during the hurricane to an account I don’t use anymore. My wish now more than anything is to be able to read it. No doubt he had moar sage advice for me. It must be said that it is nice to finally put a face to the voice in the words he wrote.

Years ago while I was traversing the Westray ordeal Flea helped me. I was flailing around, engulfed in self pity, trying to figure things out, that still don’t make sense to me. Flea reached out. He could see that I was being consumed by survivors guilt. Emails were exchanged. We wrote emails back and forth quite a bit talking about life and death and this and that. His experiences with fate helped me frame things in a better perspective. He encouraged me to not view life from over the hills and far away… encouraged me that life needs to embraced and lived!

In the course of the conversation he told me his first story about Vietnam. It was story, moving and real, that was not the Rambo, John Wayne move that I watched as a kid. I encouraged him to tell it on TBP and so he did. Over the years he became one of my mentors and a very good writer….A Big Dog if ever there was one!

I am forever in his debt…..

Ghost
Ghost
  RiNS
October 4, 2022 6:24 pm

Fleabaggs was a real honest guy and I also appreciated and benefited from his advice via email. He emailed me and told me whatever the hell was going on in my life I should quite being such a bitch and get on some medications.

Eventually, both happened and if I stopped being bitchy early, perhaps we should all credit Fleabaggs, who got it that a whole lot of people let me down in a big way but get over it because until you sit down and face death together (as my husband and I have) nobody lets you down. And, eventually, I recovered.

I wish Frankie had that option. I appreciate him for his frankness (pun definitely intended) and thanks to his advice I’m just a ghost and not completely banned.

TBP is a really interesting story.