Update(1645ET): A major new and sensational charge of a Ukrainian false flag plot in the making issued by Russia’s defense chief has set off a string of tit-for-tat accusations and statements Sunday.
Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu claimed in rare phone calls that included his counterparts from the United States, Britain, France, and Turkey that Ukrainian forces are preparing a “provocation” with a radioactive device. A Kremlin statement cited that he conveyed a warning over “possible Ukrainian provocations involving a ‘dirty bomb'”.
Shoigu’s office said in follow-up that he conveyed the warning to all the above-named countries’ defense chiefs. As for his conversation with Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin, it was the second phone call in merely three days. The Pentagon in the hours after said Austin told Shoigu he “rejected any pretext for Russian escalation” – which strongly suggests the US perceives that Moscow is about to heighten attacks on Ukrainian cities further:
Russian authorities repeatedly have made allegations that Ukraine could detonate a dirty bomb in a false flag attack and blame it on Moscow. Ukrainian authorities, in turn, have accused the Kremlin of hatching such a plan.
The Kremlin is further charging that this low-intensity nuclear provocation is being prepared with the help of Great Britain; however, the Western allies have said no evidence whatsoever was presented in the phone calls alongside the accusations.
The UK defense ministry said in its statement following Shoigu’s phone call with Secretary Ben Wallace that the Russian side “alleged that Ukraine was planning actions facilitated by Western countries, including the UK, to escalate the conflict in Ukraine.”
“The Defense Secretary refuted these claims and cautioned that such allegations should not be used as a pretext for greater escalation,” the ministry said.
Russia is saying that such a ‘dirty bomb’ detonation, which would spread radioactive waste and potentially contaminate large urban areas, would then be blamed on Moscow in order to justify greater Western intervention.
Ukraine, for its part, blasted what the presidency’s office called an “absolute and quite predictable absurdity” and blatant “lie”. France too agreed with Ukraine’s assessment, and a statement from the French Foreign Ministry has ominously warned that the crisis is “trending towards uncontrollable escalation.” But Macron on Sunday admitted that “peace is possible” – yet it depends on when the Ukrainians “decide it”.
Who exactly endowed this person with the authority to decide when the US must launch World War III on his behalf https://t.co/GYc98QnH89
— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) October 23, 2022
Meanwhile, Zelensky’s own rhetoric urging Western military intervention has escalated as well, all of which strongly suggests the war will soon grow hotter.
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Now much of Western Ukraine, which lies far away from the front lines of fighting with Russia in the east, is without power due to fresh weekend airstrikes across the country.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in a Saturday night address said new “massive” strikes targeted Dnipropetrovsk, Khmelnytsky, Kirovohrad, Mykolaiv, Odessa, Rivne, Volyn and Zaporizhia regions.
“We continue eliminating the aftermath of today’s terrorist attacks on our infrastructure,” Zelensky said. “The geography of this new massive strike is very wide.”
The past days have already seen power outages in Kyiv, with energy grid authorities warning of rolling blackouts, and urging residents to take power-saving measures such as the avoidance of running large appliances.
On Saturday the national power utility operator Ukrenergo said that damage from the latest round of Russian strikes set a new record. The Saturday air offensive by Russia was bigger than an initial major wave of strikes from earlier this month:
Over 1.4 million Ukrainian households have lost electricity after a morning of repeated Russian air raids, Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s office says.
The Ukrainian General Staff reported that 40 cruise missiles and 16 allegedly Iranian-made drones hit Ukraine throughout the day.
Oleksandr Kharchenko, a Ukrainian energy official, said in an interview with US media that national infrastructure vital for the people is facing “really huge trouble”.
“When you don’t have electricity in a city, it means you have no water, you have no supply of gas, you have nothing,” Kharchenko said. Days prior to the stepped-up Saturday assault the government said one-third of all power stations had been hit or damaged in Russian strikes.
The right bank of Kyiv covered in darkness this evening as the Ukrainian authorities began to implement planned power outages to save energy, due to continued Russian strikes targeting Ukraine's energy infrastructure. pic.twitter.com/QeR6AEvYwG
— Status-6 (@Archer83Able) October 20, 2022
Most new damage to energy has been recorded in the country’s west, south and center, with some hospitals since reporting they are running on backup generators. Reserves of oxygen and fresh water are also being tapped by hospitals.
Ukrenegro has on Sunday introduced phased blackouts to “avoid accidents”, per The Guardian:
The blackouts began at 11.13am local time (09.30am BST), with households in Kyiv divided into three groups that will be “disconnected for a certain period of time”, DTEK said.
It added that the blackouts should last “no more than four hours” but may be longer “due to the scale of damage to the power supply system”.
According to the latest estimate of the damage reported in Reuters, “Russia has hit at least half of Ukraine’s thermal generation capacity and caused billions of dollars of damage in attacks since Oct. 10, but not all stricken power units have stopped working completely, Ukraine’s energy minister said on Friday.”
⚠️ Confirmed: Live network data show internet outages in south #Ukraine corresponding to new Russian missile attacks this morning targeting critical infrastructure; the bombardment of civilian energy utilities has intensified since 10 Oct.
📰 Background: https://t.co/S0qJQ7CJD3 pic.twitter.com/M832lukdy5
— NetBlocks (@netblocks) October 22, 2022
Further, “Herman Halushchenko told Reuters in an interview that 30-40% of overall national power infrastructure had been hit in attacks that he depicted as intended to destroy Ukraine’s energy system — a goal that he said had not been achieved.”
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The JEWIS CABAL with Nazi Zelensky’s help seems happy to destroy the planet
When the Ukraine money laundering operation falls,
the globalists are fucked. Expect them to do anything to
keep that from happening.
Russia is knockin out power so Zelinsky can’t do laundry and has to wear the same shirt every day. Must be very frustrating. Brilliant strategy
Maybe he should try a different color T-shirt like pink. Help boost morale on the battle field and give them that edge to finish the rooskies off once and for all.
He’s probably not even Ukraine for his green shot propaganda anyway.
If only Putin would take him out…
Rainbow flag shirt
What ever the US GOVERNMENT parasites say is or is not will or will not be happening taking place etc and who is or is not to blame at fault , caused or deliberate you can be assured it’s a lie and the exact opposite is probably true !
What a pathetic ending coming to a Republic founded by men of honor and integrity and supported and defended by the same .
When I cross I hope the will know me as a brother !
Late at night I’m awakened from my sleep with the ground trembling . My first thought was it’s an earthquake. Then I see their faces the men I knew growing up and their sacrifice to the future of this republic as they roll over in their graves
Just like we were fighting in Vietnam for democracy or some other nonsense. I’ll take the cue from the current and recent crop of political leadership assholes like biden, Clinton and Bush and encourage all to use every legal avenue to avoid fighting for their bullshit, just like they did. And also repay biden by denying his bullshit war just like he voted to defund South Vietnam in the 70s.
Conscientious Objector
Wouldn’t it be an unlucky coincidence if the USA got locked in and committed to direct war with Russia before the new Congress is sworn in?
I got a felling in my bones that’s exactly what’s going to happen.
Korea… Viet Nam.. Ukraine.
and the beat goes on. Except this time, it’s for all the marbles.
Yassuh. This’sun AM da MAIN EVENT!!!
Simply a Cohencidence, i assure you.
Ukraine is becoming desperate, I would not put anything past them at this point.
Desperate? Those kikes want to kill every last Ukrainian. Then they will fly back from Israel and repopulate it
(((They))) hate Russia as much as they hate Germany — and they’ve acted out that hatred against both nations for more than 100 years …
The bolshevik revolution was jews vs. Russia … and in the months leading up to that October revolt, more than 90,000 jews repatriated to Russia from other European nations …
The outcomes are preplanned, there is no desperation.
There are 2 possibility’s. One is that this goes sideways and and WW3 begins. The other is that the US and NATO are getting ready to walk away from Ukraine, and they are trying to get as much leverage as they can for negotiations.
My guess is it is the latter, for one reason. China.
The US is really not worried about Russia, Russia is not the country trying to replace the US as the dominant world power, China is.
The US has pushed China into a corner by cutting China off from hi tech computer chips. This increases pressure on China to invade Taiwan and take over Taiwan’s chip making technology.
If China takes Taiwan and the chip factories that it wants, it will replace the US as the worlds dominant technological power within a decade.
And if China doesn’t take Taiwan, the US will remain the worlds dominant technological power [for at least another decade]?
I’d like some of what you’re smoking.
The Chinese view a decade like we view tomorrow. If it only takes them 10 more years to rise to the fore they will consider it a stunning victory.
They have recently hit the 28 and 14 nm node processes with home grown lithography machines.
They have embarked on a “Manhattan Project” to develop EUV machines. They seem to be at proof of concept level for all major subsystems, using techniques that they have discovered themselves and are different from ASML’s.
I guesstimate 2-4 years for a working prototype in the lab. 6-8 to start getting them out into production facilities.
In the design department they are still very dependent on licenses from companies such as Intel and ARM, but they are looking very hard at open standard RISC V.
There is a huge gap between the chips the US is able to produce, and what China is. Once you get to the stage where the tech is inventing itself as is happening currently with IT, it is very difficult to come from behind and catch up.
Taiwan however, produces some of the most advanced chips in the world. What would you do if you were China?
“inventing itself”
No further questions, your honor.
Taiwan’s chip making technology is currently dependent on support by the Dutch.
Doesn’t matter what we do or how we vote in the midterms. Lunatics have decided we need to die. All we can do now is be prepared and try to watch for signs before SHTF to avoid being vaporized.
They should replace the stars and stripes with a false flag it is so emblematic of what we are as an empire these days.
Achtung! Here we come
With another motherfucking dirty bomb….
https://www.businessinsider.com/army-special-forces-green-light-teams-tactical-nukes-cold-war-2021-2
We had them in 10th group in the early 80s.
It’s way past time that the loons we’ve allowed to be in control of our respective nations were brought to heel. Enough is enough.
Enough is enough: idiom – this must stop
Shoigu should’ve told the big black baboon that if a nuke goes off in Ukuele, the next nuke will be going off in DC. Do it, you black bastard.
I’m pretty sure that is exactly what was communicated through non-public back channels.
The problem with stupid is that reason holds no sway over it. Education can not defeat stupid, because stupid cannot be educated. See the problem? Aristotle saw this 3,000 years ago.
“Before some audiences not even the possession of the exactest knowledge will make it easy for what we say to produce conviction. For argument based on knowledge implies instruction, and there are people whom one cannot instruct.” Aristotle
Social Studies major:
“Consider our Secretary of State Antony Blinken, one of the key figures formulating our current policies. Prior to his appointment, I’d never heard of him, but I soon discovered that he’d attended the same college that I did, graduating one year later. We may have even shared some classes, though since my major was Theoretical Physics and his was Social Studies, probably not. But I do think that I have a very good understanding of his view of the world and the history of the twentieth century since until the last decade or so mine was probably not too different. Most of the other senior figures in the Biden Administration seem to fall into that same category.
These individuals have a fixed set of particular beliefs regarding America’s role in the world, beliefs shared by their entire ideological circle, and I’m sure that they would immediately reject any challenges to that framework with regard to Russia or China. Such challenges are probably not uncommon, but are regularly dismissed and ignored.”
https://www.unz.com/runz/world-war-iii-and-world-war-ii/#comment-5620392
Stupid is only half the problem. Psychopaths and sociopaths, not being restrained by ethics, morals, or empathy, tend to rise to the highest positions of power.
Psychopathic behavior tends to be both egocentric and self destructive. When psychopaths lead their countries to war, their lack of reasoning tends to ensure negative results. The more power is centralized, the greater the risk.
Russians hate niggs
Via rabid White Supremacist, Ron Unz….reeeeeee….here we go again, rhyming and priming.
World War III and World War II?
Throughout 1941, enormous crowds across the country attended anti-war rallies addressed by Lindbergh and the other leaders, with many millions more listening to the radio broadcasts of the events. Mahl shows that British agents and their American supporters meanwhile continued their covert operations to counter this effort by organizing various political front-groups advocating American military involvement, and employing fair means or foul to neutralize their political opponents. Jewish individuals and organizations seem to have played an enormously disproportionate role in that effort.
At the same time, the Roosevelt Administration escalated its undeclared war against German submarines and other naval forces in the Atlantic, unsuccessfully seeking to provoke an incident that might stampede the country into war. FDR also promoted the most bizarre and ridiculous propaganda inventions aimed at terrifying naive Americans, such as claiming to have proof that the Germans—who possessed no large surface navy and were completely stymied by the English Channel—had formulated concrete plans to leap across two thousand miles of the Atlantic Ocean and seize control of Latin America. British agents supplied some of the crude forgeries he cited as evidence.
These facts, now firmly established by decades of scholarship, provide some necessary context to Lindbergh’s famously controversial speech at an America First rally in September 1941. At that event, he charged that three groups in particular were “pressing this country toward war[:] the British, the Jewish, and the Roosevelt Administration,” and thereby unleashed an enormous firestorm of media attacks and denunciations, including widespread accusations of anti-Semitism and Nazi sympathies. Given the realities of the political situation, Lindbergh’s statement constituted a perfect illustration of Michael Kinsley’s famous quip that “a gaffe is when a politician tells the truth – some obvious truth he isn’t supposed to say.” But as a consequence, Lindbergh’s once-heroic reputation suffered enormous and permanent damage, with the campaign of vilification echoing for the remaining three decades of his life, and even well beyond. Although he was not entirely purged from public life, his standing was certainly never even remotely the same.
https://www.unz.com/runz/world-war-iii-and-world-war-ii/
Charles Lindbergh’s Warning
Hometown boy.
Should have been President.
Deep Shekels would have assassinated him. They killed his kid to send him that message.
a la’
(FDR) Franklin D. Roosevelt
Teddy Roosevelt (cousin of FDR)
LBJ (Lyndon Baines Johnson)
LBJ became president in 1963, because President JFK was assassinated.
Teddy Roosevelt became president in 1901, when president William McKinley was assassinated.
FDR won re-election in 1936, because a Jew (Karl Weiss) assassinated his more popular rival Senator Huey Long.
What if a regular bomb goes off and they just TELL you there’s radiation? Or some variation. Has everyone forgotten the FAKE GLOBAL PANDEMIC?
There seems to be a lot of almost glee in this current scare. The programming runs deep on the ‘nukes’.
Stimulating conversations.
Madness is spreading like the spike protein couff.
Went out this morning bought 90 rolls of Scott’s terlet paper, $70.
Almost done splitting next years firewood, looking to get 3rd year logs up off the ground soon.
Dear Lord, thy will be done.
Odd, isn’t it?
We were talking nuclear war 24/7 for the last month or so, but now it’s a threat of a false flag- whichever one actually does it- by dirty bomb, you know, a regular bomb with radioactive material strapped to it.
What about all those suitcase nukes? Or a single battlefield nuke they’ve trumpeted about for decades?
Makes a reasonable person question if there is such a thing as a nuclear weapon.
Or if radioactivity even exists.
Maybe these whole Chernobyl and Fukushima thingies were giant hoaxes
I just watched a Chinese drone drop off a Boston Dynamics type dog with a shotgun strapped to its back.
A drone could drop a suitcase nuke anywhere.
So a few days ago, out of the blue, the Pentagon contacted Russia after several months of no communications, just to tell them to keep the lines of communication open, and now they are calling back and forth several times while Zelensky tries to muster an attack with a dirty bomb.
What are chances this happened without US approval? Is it possible Zelenski is trying to force a escalation, to try to keep support which is now in question? A dirty bomb attack on Russia could result in a nuclear response from Russia.
Is that what is behind all the talk of nuclear strikes this past week?
Support for the war is weakening in both the US and Europe, and perhaps Zelenski is getting desperate. Perhaps he has overplayed his hand. There is little chance either US or Europe wants to risk nuclear war over a backwater like Ukraine. We will just have to wait and see, and hopefully nothing really stupid happens…