Systemic Reactions to COVID Vaccines Now Being Sold to Public as a ‘Feature’

Guest Post by Madhava Setty, M.D.

After advertising the benefit of breakthrough infections, mainstream media is now putting a positive spin on systemic side effects by reframing them as signs of vaccine effectiveness.

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Last month, U.S. News & World Report gave readers the encouraging news that vaccine failures, in the form of so-called breakthrough infections, were actually a reason (for those who survived them) to celebrate added protection from subsequent infection.

This week, CNN — reporting on a study published last week in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) Network Open — reassured us that the worse you feel after receiving a COVID-19 mRNA injection, the better your protection.

As outlined below, the authors of the study make unfounded claims and raise more questions than answers.

What the study found

The authors examined blood samples and self-reported post-vaccination symptoms in 928 study participants to determine if there was an association between symptoms and antibody response.

They found:

  • There was no statistically significant difference in antibody reactivity between those who had no reported side effects and those with systemic side effects (fever, chills, muscle pain, nausea, vomiting, headache and/or moderate to severe fatigue).
  • Females, those who received the Moderna product and those who had a previous COVID-19 infection, had a statistically significant higher risk of having systemic side effects.
  • Systemic side effects were associated with higher, statistically significant antibody levels.

In other words, virtually the same percentage of people developed SARS-CoV-2 antibodies whether they suffered systemic side effects or not — but those who did suffer systemic side effects had a higher level of antibodies than those who didn’t.

Based on these results the authors of the study claimed their “findings support reframing postvaccination symptoms as signals of vaccine effectiveness and reinforce guidelines for vaccine boosters in older adults.”

There are two problems with the authors’ conclusions.

First, their findings have no bearing on vaccine boosters for older adults as no boosted individuals were included in the study.

Second, attributing vaccine effectiveness — the risk reduction in contracting COVID-19 — to a greater antibody response is also an unfounded assumption that contradicts the U.S. Food and Drug Administration’s (FDA) own public safety communication to healthcare providers to “not interpret the results of qualitative, semi-quantitative, or quantitative SARS-CoV-2 antibody tests as an indication of a specific level of immunity or protection from SARS-CoV-2 infection after the person has received a COVID-19 vaccination.”

The FDA’s position was reiterated by its advisory committee, in April 2022, whose members agreed that antibody levels are not a valid measure of immunity.

Why didn’t they answer the billion-dollar question?

The question of whether antibody levels are a correlate of protection is an important one that still remains unanswered. Interestingly, the authors of this study had an excellent opportunity to put this question to rest — but they chose not to.

At this time approximately 10 million children between the ages of 6 months and 11 years have received two doses of a COVID-19 vaccine at a cost of approximately $350 million dollars to taxpayers.

The U.S. government also purchased 170 million bivalent boosters at a presumed cost of several billion dollars.

The authorization of the COVID-19 vaccine primary series in children of this age range was not based on COVID-19 outcomes, only on an immune response.

And in the case of the bivalent booster, the authorization was based on an immune response in a handful of mice.

The authors of the JAMA study noted that prior COVID-19 infection was an independent factor that was associated with vaccine-induced symptoms. Prior infection was established through self-reporting only.

The average time between vaccination and antibody testing was approximately four months.

Is there a reason why the participants were not asked if they had contracted COVID-19 during this period as well? With reactogenic (side effects) and immunogenic (antibody levels) data obtained for nearly 1,000 participants, it is puzzling that the study design was not extended to resolve the debate about whether or not immunogenicity is associated with vaccine efficacy.

Why did these National Institutes of Health-funded researchers choose not to answer this question definitively and instead make the unfounded claim that their “findings support reframing of postvaccination symptoms as signals of vaccine effectiveness?”

I will answer my own rhetorical question.

If higher antibody levels resulted in a lower incidence of COVID-19, this could mean that systemic side effects are associated with better protection. This would lead to more questions, such as, are males and Pfizer recipients less protected?

If there were no difference in COVID-19 incidence, this would prove that antibody levels are not a surrogate for protection — which would destroy the justification of authorizing the pediatric vaccine and the bivalent booster.

More questions

The authors’ conclusion that symptoms are signals of vaccine effectiveness is not only unfounded and reckless, but it also puts them in a difficult position.

If females had systemic reactions more frequently, aren’t they admitting that males are less protected?

If systemic symptoms occurred more with Moderna than with Pfizer, doesn’t that mean that Pfizer’s formulation isn’t as effective?

What about those who had no symptoms after the jab? Should they be worried that they aren’t as protected?

Dr. William Schaffner, a professor in the Division of Infectious Diseases at Vanderbilt University Medical Center and medical director of the National Foundation for Infectious Diseases, told CNN:

“I don’t want a patient to tell me that, ‘Golly, I didn’t get any reaction, my arm wasn’t sore, I didn’t have fever. The vaccine didn’t work.’ I don’t want that conclusion to be out there. …

“This is more to reassure people who have had a reaction that that’s their immune system responding, actually in a rather good way, to the vaccine, even though it has caused them some discomfort.”

In other words, there is apparently no downside to getting the COVID-19 vaccine. If you didn’t suffer any symptoms, good! If you did, that’s good, too.

Schaffner’s sanguine framing of the “discomfort” that occurs after inoculation may be acceptable to some. I wonder how it sits with the 1 in 4 vaccine recipients who either were unable to participate in daily activities or missed work or school, or the nearly 8 in 100 who sought medical attention after vaccination?

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The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer

I’ve been saying that for about ten years now…about everything…and it’s all too true.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer

Systemic Reactions to COVID Vaccines Now Being Sold to Public as a ‘Feature’

Don’t be naive. That aspect of it was cooked right into Fauci’s “gain of function”

The fucking “function” of this shit is TO KILL YOU without you being able to blame your murderers!

Because…FUCKING SCIENCE!!!

Boogieman
Boogieman

Hate to tell ya, but if we haven’t done anything yet then we probably never will. At this point in time and given the state of the world, we may all be laid at the alter of Moloch without so much as a whimper.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer

Withholding consent is “action”. It’s the ONE action I know beyond doubt is sanctioned by God. Anything beyond that and you’ll answer to the Big Guy upstairs, so make that choice wisely. Like the vax, it’s not something that can be undone later.

Boogieman
Boogieman

I give no consent and if you think God want’s you to lay down like a lamb and leave it all in his hands, then we have a different understanding of God. Hence the problem with the Christian Church today and the degradation of our society.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer

That’s not what I said or meant. How you took what I said is the problem. Attacking people who offer you sound advice doesn’t sound like a teaching of Christ Jesus to me.

Boogieman
Boogieman

You said what you said.

“Anything beyond that and you’ll answer to the Big Guy upstairs, so make that choice wisely”

To be clear:
I’m not teaching Christ Jesus, I’m not qualified to do so. Your relationship with God/Jesus is between you and Him, same as it is for me.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer

Buddy, if you’re not qualified then you don’t know Him. And if that be the case, you’d be well advised to listen to someone with a bit more experience…whoever you decide that might be.

GNL

Onward Christian Soldiers

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer

“A moment’s thought would have shown him, but a moment is a long time and a thought is a painful thing.”

Svarga Loka
Svarga Loka

Old news. “That’s how you know it’s working” was a meme from the very beginning.

brian
brian

Thats the way propaganda works. Inject the message, then amp the message, employ the wait cycle for the message to settle in, repackage message and inject again… rinse and repeat. Zombies will never work this out…

Anonymous
Anonymous

Add in gaslighting of we “kooks” who dissent, “endangering” – not saving – the others.

“People accept the facts which come to them through existing channels. They like to hear new things in accustomed ways. They have neither the time nor the inclination to search for facts that are not readily available to them.”
― Edward L. Bernays, Crystallizing Public Opinion
https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/1184315-crystallizing-public-opinion

“There are invisible rulers who control the destinies of millions. It is not generally realized to what extent the words and actions of our most influential public men are dictated by shrewd persons operating behind the scenes.” ― Edward L. Bernays, Propaganda
https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/481391-propaganda

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Availability_cascade – An availability cascade is a self-reinforcing cycle that explains the development of certain kinds of collective beliefs. A novel idea or insight, usually one that seems to explain a complex process in a simple or straightforward manner, gains rapid currency in the popular discourse by its very simplicity and by its apparent insightfulness. Its rising popularity triggers a chain reaction within the social network: individuals adopt the new insight because other people within the network have adopted it, and on its face it seems plausible. The reason for this increased use and popularity of the new idea involves both the availability of the previously obscure term or idea, and the need of individuals using the term or idea to appear to be current with the stated beliefs and ideas of others, regardless of whether they in fact fully believe in the idea that they are expressing. Their need for social acceptance, and the apparent sophistication of the new insight, overwhelm their critical thinking.

brian
brian

They have neither the time nor the inclination to search for facts that are not readily available to them.”

Boom… Additionally the information they are fed is easily found, because its fed to them. The inverse is that that information is just as quickly forgotten again. I have literally talked with people who will pull out their phone to look up some tidbit. Ask them an hour later roughly the same question and they’d have to look it up again.

People are being programmed to look at the sanitized information, accept it without question and memory hole it because you have your sanitization memory device. If you should need that info again, no need to remember anything, just look it up…

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer

Widespread cases of encephalitis are going to look remarkably like “the zombie apocalypse” . We call it “Covid Fog” now. All that sitting 30 seconds at a green light stuff you see every day? Zombies. As they continue to deteriorate they will become ever more dangerous to be around.

GNL

Are you sure it’s not people looking at their phones at the light and not brain fog?

a9racer
a9racer

Same

Joe Blow
Joe Blow

Saw that yesterday. Young kid behind him went all ballistic and aggressive.

Steve Z.
Steve Z.

Antibody levels?
Covid (if even real) is a respiratory disease like the flu. It gains entrance through the airway-nose, mouth, throat, lungs. T-cells and dendritic cells attack it in the epithelial layer lining the airway, NOT antibodies. Antibodies are circulating primarily in the blood.
Antibody levels is basically a red herring.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer

Forget virii. Spike proteins are what you need to be afraid of. You ever see a case of Mad Cow Disease? You do not want that shit.

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