Carthage Must Be Destroyed!

Guest Post by David Sant

Carthage Must Be Destroyed!

During its rise to world domination, the City of Rome had one major competitor, which was its equal in every way. That city was Carthage, located 370 miles away, on the South side of the Mediterranean Sea.

Carthage had been planting colonies around the Mediterranean and Atlantic for over a century before Rome was even founded. As Rome rose to power, these two Mediterranean cities fought two wars for control over the Island of Sicily, called the Punic Wars. Despite an admirable performance by Hannibal who managed to invade Italy twice and inflicted a terrible defeat on the Romans at Cannae, Carthage still ended up losing both wars.

At the close of the second Punic War in 201 BC, Carthage was conquered by Rome and placed under a special administrative status that disallowed it from fielding a navy or overseas military without permission from the Roman Senate.

Carthage was one of only three powers that ever managed to directly threaten Rome during the days of the Republic, the others being the Gauls who sacked Rome in 390 BC, and the Macedonian Greeks, who were defeated in 197 BC.

The Roman attitude and behavior toward Carthage then was very similar to the Anglo-American attitude toward Russia, today. The main “sin” of Carthage in the eyes of the Romans was that it was equal in power and influence to Rome. And for that sin, it had to be destroyed.

Cato the Elder was a Roman soldier, who later became a Senator and famous orator who gave many speeches in the Senate even after his retirement. Over a period of forty years, he routinely ended his speeches on any subject with the statement, “And furthermore, I consider that Carthage must be destroyed!”

Cato repeatedly made this demand, despite the fact that Carthage was now a Roman client state bound by a peace treaty.

For fifty years after losing the Second Punic War, Carthage submitted to the terms of the treaty. However, after the death of Cato the Elder in 149 BC, a certain faction in Rome deliberately allowed the King of Numidia to pillage and conquer Carthagenian territories, in violation of the treaty.

This placed Carthage in a position where they had to defend themselves from predations by a neighboring Roman client state. Their appeals to the Roman Senate were ignored. So, they took action to defend their interests against Numidia without permission.

When they did so, the Roman Senate immediately interpreted this as a violation of the 201 BC peace treaty, and authorized the invasion and destruction of Carthage. This was not unlike the “rules based international order” of Washington, DC, where we make the rules (for you) but we don’t have to follow them ourselves.

Despite having surrendered their weapons at the outset of the Roman campaign, the walls of Carthage were so well made that it took the Romans nearly three years of siege to break through.

Finally in 146 BC, Carthage fell for the last time to the Roman Army, and was deliberately razed to the ground and burned. The Romans slew all of its population, men, women, and children, except for 50,000 who were taken back to Italy as slaves. According to Polybius, the wife of the last general of Carthage threw herself and her own children into the burning temple of the city rather than surrender to Rome.

Moscow as the New Carthage

The dissolution of the Soviet Union in 1991 was not the result of losing a war. It was caused by the failed policies of a centralized economy, exacerbated by American manipulation of the oil markets, and a costly American-backed guerilla war in Afghanistan. The United States moved in with “shock therapy” economic advisors and took the opportunity to restructure a confused and gullible Russia, including writing a new constitution.

For Russia the collapse of the Soviet Union had many similarities to the loss of Carthage in the Second Punic War.

Despite making peace with their former adversary, and honoring their treaties, Russia found that she could never be accepted as a friend on equal terms by the Western world order. And this was for the very same reason that Carthage could never be tolerated by Rome. Russia was and is in every way an equal to the Anglo-American Empire.

Ever since Vladimir Putin became President of Russia, the chorus of the West has become louder and louder that Putin must go. While they cannot say it aloud yet, what they really mean is “Russia must be destroyed!”

If Russia had continued the policy of submission to Western control that was begun by Boris Yeltsin, we can be assured that Moscow would have eventually met the same fate as Carthage from the Anglo-American Empire.

However, the appointment of Vladimir Putin as President of Russia derailed their plans. Under his rule Russia has steadily reasserted her former leadership and strength against the machinations of the Anglo-American Empire.

False Flag Attacks as a Means to an End

While at first Mr. Putin made a genuine effort to be a “partner” with the West, by the year 2011 it was clear that the West would never accept Russia as a friend or an equal. The West had enjoyed two decades of bossing everyone else around and had learned to enjoy giving orders rather than negotiating. One might say that the West forgot the art of diplomacy.

After watching in horror the NATO-led destructions of Serbia, Libya, and Syria, the Kremlin began asserting itself with foreign policy problems that directly affected Russian security interests starting in 2013.

The Obama Administration was very busy from 2011 to 2013 planning the overthrow of the Assad Regime in Syria. Two major hacks of intelligence related companies shed some unexpected light on what was going on behind the scenes. These were the Stratfor hack in 2011, and the hack of a British private security company (ie. mercenaries), that shall not be named, in January of 2013.

I must note that the private security company (PSC for short) admitted that they were hacked, but claimed that two of the most damning emails released within the gigabytes of leaked files were “fabricated.”

The “fabricated” email as reported by the Oriental Review, purportedly from the business development officer to the company founder reads as follows:

Phil

We’ve got a new offer. It’s about Syria again. Qataris propose an attractive deal and swear that the idea is approved by Washington.

We’ll have to deliver a CW to Homs, a Soviet origin g-shell from Libya similar to those that Assad should have. They want us to deploy our Ukrainian personnel that should speak Russian and make a video record.

Frankly, I don’t think it’s a good idea but the sums proposed are enormous. Your opinion?

Kind regards

David

The original story and its context can be found at The Oriental Review: https://orientalreview.org/2013/01/31/britamgate-staging-false-flag-attacks-in-syria/

Despite the file dump including personnel files containing copies of 58 real Ukrainian passports of employees of said PSC, the “fact checkers” at the time examined the email headers and noted that the email in question had a very similar time stamp, of three minutes before midnight, to another email in the release that was sent on a different date, also at three minutes before midnight. While this could be explained by a mail server or laptop setting which sent mail every day at the same time, it was accepted as proof of skullduggery and the entire affair was quickly dismissed and mostly forgotten.

Said PSC then sued The Daily Mail for libel for reporting the “obviously fake” email above as authentic, and was awarded damages and a partial retraction in January of 2022.

The supposedly fabricated email above happened to fall between several other breaches which revealed US and British intelligence were planning to release a video showing Russian-speaking soldiers as the operators of Syria’s chemical weapons depots.

I consider the aforementioned “hoax” to be one of the most amazing coincidences of the past two decades.

The PSC hack was shortly followed by claims of the Khan al-Assal chemical attack near Aleppo only three months later, and another at Ghouta five months after that, both of which were blamed by the West on the Assad Regime in the ramp up for an American invasion of Syria.

It is simply amazing that some unknown hacker managed to fabricate an email discussing the details of an event that hadn’t even happened yet. But the truth is often stranger than fiction.

Of course I know that the PSC referred to above couldn’t have had anything to do with either of the real chemical attacks which followed, because after their demonstrated incompetence of allowing all of their operations in the Middle East to be breached and published on the Internet, I seriously doubt they would be trusted to handle such an offer, had it been real.

The “fabricated” email shows us a picture of what was certainly going on in Syria as US and British intelligence farmed out projects to mercenary groups like Blackwater and other “private security companies.”

However, the invasion party was halted in its tracks in September of 2013, when Mr. Putin completely neutralized the Anglo-American casus belli against Syria by offering to help Syria destroy their chemical weapons stockpiles.

This was successfully completed and verified by the OPCW as being completed in late June of 2014. Thus Syria’s chemical stockpiles were completely removed before the American false flag plan could be convincingly executed. In poker this is known as calling the bluff.

Anyone who actually believed the Western propaganda about chemical weapons might have expected that President Vladimir Putin would be given some kind of international award for bringing Syria into the Chemical Weapons Convention and averting yet another major war in the Middle East.

However, rather than being pleased at the destruction of Syria’s chemical weapons, the Atlanticists were furious. This was the first major chess move by Mr. Putin that completely derailed the plans of the Atlanticists on the world stage. They shifted gears to the Euromaidan Revolution in Ukraine, beginning in November 2013.

However, the chemical weapons saga in Syria was only getting started. The Assad Regime continued to be accused of chemical weapons attacks in 2015, 2016, 2017, and even up until 2022. Syria has suffered from multiple attempted chemical weapons attacks since 2012, culminating in a major one in Idlib on April 4, 2017. The Idlib attack was used by President Trump to justify a cruise missile strike on Syria, two days later, before any facts could be ascertained about the event. Since 2017, Russia has warned repeatedly that the White Helmets group were planning false flag chemical attacks to be blamed on the Assad Regime. This activity has continued all the way up to the present year.

The most important lesson to be learned from the chemical weapons saga in Syria is that the Atlanticist intelligence agencies have such complete control over global mainstream media outlets that they do not fear exposure of their false flag attack plans. And furthermore, if you want to anticipate their plans, all you have to do is listen to what they say.

On August 20, 2012, a few months before any of the false flag chemical attacks in Syria, President Obama made the following comments:

We have been very clear to the Assad regime, but also to other players on the ground, that a red line for us is we start seeing a whole bunch of chemical weapons moving around or being utilized. That would change my calculus. That would change my equation.

Obama started warning Syria that using or even moving chemical weapons was a red line, shortly before the American false flag attempts began.

Thus, we can see that the US regime will telegraph their plans by first naming a casus belli, and then secretly working to create the false appearance of violation of the casus belli by the intended victim.

Even when the plans are exposed in advance, they will still be carried out. The MSM will pretend that there was no prior warning, and fact checkers will claim the prior warning was part of the deception by the country that was in reality falsely accused.

Russia Must Be Destroyed!

This brings us to the likely culmination of the Western war against Russia. In Septemer of 2022, Biden officials suddenly started clucking about how Russia must not use tactical nuclear weapons in Ukraine. This refrain was repeated to the media multiple times by officials including the President, Secretary of State, and National Security Advisor, as well as several retired military officers.

Anyone with an ounce of sense can see that using nuclear weapons in Ukraine would go against every interest Russia has there, as well as breaking all the rules of Russian nuclear doctrine. The majority of Russian citizens have relatives in Ukraine, which would make such an action political suicide. Russia has never threatened to use such weapons in Ukraine. So, why would the USA give such warnings?

The ridiculous American warnings against nuclear weapons in Ukraine show the wise observer exactly what the US State Department is planning to do. They obviously intend to deploy a nuclear weapon or dirty bomb through their proxies in order to blame Russia for it.

We have already seen this beginning to play out. The Kremlin warned several major countries in October of 2022 that Ukraine was planning to detonate a dirty bomb to be blamed on Russia. US Defense Secretary Austin immediately spun the story to say Russia is fabricating that accusation to justify their own intent to use nuclear weapons in Ukraine. Then the topic seemed to die down for a spell.

It is unfortunately naive to think Mr. Shoigu’s warnings averted anything. In the past, exposing the planned chemical false flag did not prevent its eventual execution. We know from the Russian MOD that a radiological or nuclear false flag event has definitely been planned for Ukraine.

Since Russia announced this, it is possible that the Atlanticists may have upgraded the plot to use an actual tactical nuclear weapon, because Ukraine supposedly doesn’t have those, and it would be harder for Russia to deny. It will probably be saved for a moment where it looks like Russia is about to win a major victory in Ukraine.

In the larger context, Britain’s MI6 has run a series of false flag poisonings blamed on Russia, starting with Litvinenko in 2006, followed by the Skripal poisoning, and most recently the Nalvany poisoning. The purpose of these theatrical false flag campaigns has always been to reduce Russia’s influence in the international community, and attempt to isolate Russia as a “rogue regime.”

And going back to the “fabricated” email of the PSC quoted above, we see that the requirement to get video of Russian-speakers deploying a chemical weapon against innocent Syrian civilians fit right in with the British narrative that, “Russia poisons people, because Russia is a venomous serpent!”

The downing of MH-17 would also count as the same class of false flag incident, but with a somewhat more tactical purpose of trying to create enough international hysteria to turn the victory of the Donbass militia into a major defeat for Russia internationally through sanctions.

The downing of MH-17 succeeded in energizing Europe to apply the first round of sanctions against Russia. And even more so, it generated enough hysteria that Russia no longer is given the chance to defend her actions, to cross examine witnesses, or bring her own witnesses with regard to accusations against her. Russia and her citizens are now routinely accused of atrocities by the West and summarily punished by confiscation of property with no recourse in the international bodies that were created to adjudicate such disputes.

As the Ukraine War has stopped trending on Twitter, freezing Europeans are ready to take up pitchforks against their masters, and Russia’s presumed Winter offensive seems very likely to inflict some major losses on Ukraine and the NATO backers, the Atlanticist spin masters badly need a bigger shock to jolt the UN and EU into doing their bidding.

As in the case of MH-17, the Satanists running the Empire of Lies need a large sacrifice of human lives to generate enough shock and outrage to achieve their next big foreign policy coup.

The reader should recognize the same playbook as the warnings for Syria not to use chemical weapons in 2012, followed by years of false flag attempts.

After hearing the US warnings against Russia using a nuclear weapon in Ukraine, we should not have been surprised to learn from the Russian MOD that the Zelensky regime was planning to deploy a dirty bomb to be blamed on Russia as a tactical nuclear weapon. The American forewarnings, followed by exposure of such a plot, express the same pattern seen in Syria playing out again.

I expect that some version of this nuclear plot will eventually be carried out with the backing of Atlanticist intelligence agencies.

To What End?

Russia’s position as a permanent member of the UN Security Council with veto power has been a thorn in the paw of the Atlanticist beast since the Cold War.

Russia’s willingness to use her military to defend allies in Syria, Ukraine, and Armenia presents an uncontrollable risk factor for Anglo-American hegemony. They cannot tolerate it.

Russia has used her veto on the Security Council multiple times to block American warmongering. If Russia cannot be destroyed literally, then at minimum, they must destroy Russia’s reputation to the point of revoking their seat on the Security Council.

If the Atlanticists cannot risk directly attacking Moscow itself, then they can achieve the next best thing by creating a provocation to justify kicking Russia off the United Nations Security Council.

The Atlanticist Axis is desperate to remove Russian leadership and influence on the rest of the world, because Russia keeps blocking their imperial plans, whether in Syria, Ukraine, Asia, Latin America, or Africa.

The purpose of such an overt false flag attack as a nuclear detonation, real or fake, would be to generate sufficient international horror and emotion to remove Russia from the UN Security Council, or expel her from the UN entirely. They will require a 9-11 level event to achieve that.

Rest assured that when the bomb is finally detonated, the paperwork to expel Russia will be presented to the UN General Assembly before the ashes have hit the ground.

It doesn’t make sense to view such an event as an attempt to stave off Russian advances in the Ukraine. A nuclear bomb might be tactical but its purpose is strategic – to excommunicate Russia from the UN and all other international bodies of which it is a member.

The long term campaign by the USA and UK intelligence services to frame Russia for provocations using weapons of mass destruction follows the dark parallel of Rome’s treatment of Carthage.

Cato and his faction demanded the destruction of Carthage, not because Carthage was involved in any current plots against Rome, but because Carthage was a near equal to Rome in wealth, in culture, and in potential military power. Carthage was a potential adversary that could block Rome’s path to Empire.

Cato made these speeches for decades prior to his death, and ended every one of them with the demand that Carthage must be destroyed. At first it was probably considered a joke. But eventually through repetition he succeeded in priming the minds of the Roman Senate to carry out his desire.

Rome could brook no competition, and therefore did not recognize Carthage as an equal. The existence of Carthage, to the Roman mind, required its destruction. And this is exactly how the think tanks in DC and London view Russia today. “Russia must be destroyed!”

Just as Rome used the peace treaty with Carthage to prevent Carthage from defending herself, while encouraging Numidia to go to war against Carthage, both Angela Merkel and Petro Poroshenko have now admitted that the Minsk Agreements were only used to buy time for Kiev to prepare for war against Russia.

Cato the Elder died at the old age of 85 years in 149 BC. Within a year of his death, the Roman Senate used their client kingdom, Numidia, to create the false pretext to go to war against Carthage. After an extended siege they burned the city to the ground and ensured that it was not rebuilt for generations.

The deliberate destruction of Carthage by Rome was completely irrational. They destroyed what would have been billions of 2020 Dollars worth of property. They destroyed a civilization that wasn’t even at war with them. The Roman Empire became poorer by the destruction of Carthage, not richer. The irrational destruction of Carthage was entirely driven by hatred and jealousy, both of which are irrational.

If Russia ever capitulates to the Atlanticist Axis she will meet the same fate. “Russia must be destroyed,” is the mantra that has been woven through all of the actions, plots, and strategies of the Atlanticists ever since Putin became President of Russia. We should have no doubt that Washington is willing to use nuclear weapons to achieve that objective, whether outright or by farce.

In the nearterm, we should expect the farce – a false flag nuclear attack on Ukraine. If Russia achieves a major breakthrough in Ukraine in the coming year, the nuclear false flag will probably be triggered, followed by hysterical condemnation and demands that Russia be immediately expelled from the United Nations.

The question to which I have no answer is, how can Russia defeat such a strategy?

The End of Mutually Assured Destruction

The doctrine of Mutually Assured Destruction is based on the assumption that two rational actors who understand that a certain action will destroy them both will avoid that action at all costs. This was the lynchpin of foreign policy during the Cold War.

The problem is that most humans are only rational some of the time. And some small percentage of us may reach a state of complete irrationality most of the time.

Furthermore, humans have a strange tendency on rare occasions to go mad together in crowds, not unlike lemmings who follow each other over the cliff into the sea. Nazi Germany in the 1930s comes to mind.

While Russia has recently been trying to protect herself from the acidic influence of Western imposed sodomy, the West has fully embraced it. And that, not merely as one of many valid options, but as a totalitarian state religion that children must be indoctrinated into. This is what Mr. Putin meant when he said that the West has become Satanic.

Sodomy is not merely an individual choice. It is a suicidal choice both for the individual and for human society. Consistent sodomites have no offspring, so they must recruit the offspring of normal people in order to grow in numbers. But in the end, a civilization that embraces sodomy as the preferred lifestyle will completely collapse morally, economically, and numerically.

The West has come under the spell of a death cult, currently led by the World Economic Forum. Their irrational desire to deindustrialize and depopulate the world in the name of environmentalism and technocracy can only be described as insanity. Ultimately both sodomy and Malthusian environmentalism are rejections of our Creator, and the mandate to be fruitful, multiply, and exercise dominion over the Earth and its living creatures. It is a rejection of the mission of transforming the Earth from wilderness and wasteland into a garden.

But he who sins against me wrongs his own soul; All those who hate me love death. (Proverbs 8:36)

Such leaders cannot be counted on to act rationally under the MAD regime, because they may view a nuclear war as a shortcut to achieve their goals of deindustrialization and depopulation. Of course, they have their bunkers in Switzerland and irrationally believe they will survive the conflagration to become the new elite of a greener world controlled by technocrats.

The Heaven’s Gate cult members also believed that by committing mass suicide they would ascend into a higher and better state. As far as anyone knows, they were completely wrong. But that did not stop them from carrying out mass suicide.

Jesus said that you don’t pour new wine into an old wineskin. The reason is that the leather of a wineskin stretches under the pressure of fermentation. An old wineskin has lost its elasticity, and cannot contain the power of a second batch of fermenting wine. It will burst.

It appears to me that Mutual Assured Destruction is an old wineskin of the twentieth century that may not be able to contain the fermenting minds of the annihilationist “young leaders” whose hearts were trained by the World Economic Forum.

In the past year we have already seen the West demonstrate it has reached a state of chronic criminal insanity.

First, they blew up the Nord Stream Pipeline which will cause the deindustrialisation of Western Europe.

That is criminally insane!

Then, Ukraine, under western supervision and using western weapons, has spent the past six months shelling the Zaporizhia Nuclear Power Station in an effort to cause a nuclear accident.

That is criminally insane!

Now, the Russian MOD already has said they have evidence that the NATO-backed Ukrainians are planning a false flag radiological or nuclear weapon detonation on their own soil!!!

That is criminally suicidally insane!

We have reached a point in world history where the West appears to be planning a nuclear false flag attack in Ukraine to be blamed on Russia in order to justify the next big change, whatever that is. And Russia stands in their way. The leaders of the West have gone certifiably mad. And this means that MAD is no longer a shield against nuclear war.

Any remaining sane powers in this world need to immediately take that into account, and start preparing and planning to survive and win a nuclear war against a diabolically insane and suicidal adversary who may not see a total nuclear war as a bad thing.

If Carthage waits for Rome to make their next move, trusting in the good faith of the parties to make rational decisions under international law, then it is quite likely that once more, Carthage shall be destroyed.

Kyrie eleison on us all!

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34 Comments
Spencer
Spencer
December 17, 2022 7:21 am

85% of people just want to be left alone. To live a normal and peaceful life. 15% of people will not leave anyone alone. Their joy is the pain and misery of others. This 15% has now captured most of the positions of power in this world, to all of our detriment.

Let the world burn
Let the world burn
  Spencer
December 17, 2022 8:05 am

To live is to struggle; to exist is to fight. Being left alone is never an option for the living.

m
m
  Let the world burn
December 17, 2022 12:49 pm

Someone gets it.

Paleocon
Paleocon
December 17, 2022 7:35 am

I recommend the audio book of this article for a cross country trip.

KJ
KJ
  Paleocon
December 17, 2022 10:45 am

Maybe try Ritalin?

Obbledy
Obbledy
December 17, 2022 7:38 am

“They”never really said what ASSAD had done that he must go!……just that he had to go!…..ahhhhh,the HRC legacy!!(see my comment about the arab”spring”)
Getting real sick of the absolute EVIL that resides in DC…..even the dogs must be evil to befriend those “people”……

John McCain's Tumor
John McCain's Tumor
  Obbledy
December 18, 2022 9:14 am

Assad allegedly used chemical weapons on his own people. Assad’s faction of Alawites is in direct contradiction to Shia law where alcohol is concerned which would allow Muslim zealots, as well as Kurdish proxies, to be used.
An even less reported fact was the destruction of a supposed nuclear production facility in Syria that had North Korean help. That was obliterated by Israel with US intel assistance and most of the evidence was swept under the rug by media.

So here we have ample pretext for intervention for WMD violations. Israel is complicit as well as certain other Arab states who viewed Syria as a competitor in the regional energy market.

There are many heads to this Hydra ….

Sionnach Liath
Sionnach Liath
December 17, 2022 8:06 am

‘Carthago delenda est’ one of my favorite latin phrases. Marcus Porcius Cato also wrote ‘De Re Rustica’ (on Agriculture) which for a long time was the oldest known surviving text written in the old latin language. Don’t know if that is still the case.

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
December 17, 2022 8:16 am

A brilliant analysis and consistent with my own finding over the years, and I have the benefit of experience inside the beating dark heart of UK SIS, albeit a bit out-of-date to say the least. But the Intelligence modus operandi (an oxymoron) never changes, even going back to the first Elizabethan era.
https://www.intelligence101.com/psyops-the-ultimate-guide-to-psychological-operations-psyops/

Thus David, judging by your excellent description of the Punic Wars as perfect evidence of history rhyming, so we can discern that your projections are very likely to be realised. My own contacts in China insist that a kinetic confrontation between the Global North and the Global South is inevitable when they point to 2026 – it could well be much sooner.

You ask: “The question to which I have no answer is, how can Russia defeat such a strategy?”. My answer is for Putin to remain in the arms of China’s Belt & Road, (pun intended), and the ASEAN Economic Community which envisions a single market and production base, free flow of goods, services, investments, capital, and labour will allow the development of production networks in the Global South and enhance their economic capacity. Taken with their SCO, and all the other eastern institutions amassing now, should offer Russia an impenetrable shield against anything the Altanticists can do as they sink below the surface of the economic waves.

WilliamtheResolute
WilliamtheResolute
  Austrian Peter
December 17, 2022 10:46 am

The West has NATO…the East has BRICS…the East just needs to codify it into a mutual defense agreement.

m
m
  WilliamtheResolute
December 17, 2022 12:54 pm

The East just needs to copy all of the West’s boondoggles, that will make them become great!

WARNING: This post may contain traces of sarcasm.

Stucky
Stucky
December 17, 2022 8:51 am

Rome = the American hegemon of it’s day

Cato = the John Bolton of his day

The Son of God was nailed to the tree by ….. ROME.

Fuck the Romans, bunch of goddamned warmongering murderous Dago shitheads.

Long live Russia!
Long live Vladimir Vladimirovich!
Glory to God.

flash
flash
  Stucky
December 17, 2022 9:11 am

Not Rome, bruh…it was the Loos done did that.

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
  Stucky
December 17, 2022 11:17 am

Bravo, Stucky, may your wishes come true.

Putin it where it counts
Putin it where it counts
  Stucky
December 17, 2022 3:41 pm

I think they call this “saying the quiet part out loud”

Iggy
Iggy
December 17, 2022 8:57 am

There is just one problem with this. What about China?They see what’s going on with Russia ,will they accept a similar fate ? I don’t think so.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Iggy
December 17, 2022 10:12 am

The Chinks play the long game and will let us and the Ruskies duke it out. Even today, they are sitting by watching us deplete our weapons systems in Ukraine and use up our Strategic Petroleum Reserve. Behind the scenes, they are working on the Saud family to accept Yuan for oil and have befriended Iran. They know our weakness in projecting power is oil and will find a way to cut us off from OPEC. It make take a decade or two, but that is OK in their books.

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
  TN Patriot
December 17, 2022 11:20 am

So true TNP exactly what my contacts advise. They say that because of our 4-5 year election cycle, the western strategy is short term and, as you say, China plays the long game. but they do need Russia’s oil and gas, so they see a long term cooperation agreement.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Austrian Peter
December 17, 2022 11:58 am

Peter – No doubt that China needs Russia’s resources, but there is a very long history of distrust between them. Today, the philosophy of The Enemy of My Enemy is My Friend seems to prevail. We should have taken up that strategy with Russia 30 years ago, rather than continue to antagonize them.

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
  TN Patriot
December 17, 2022 12:06 pm

True – but trust is now lost. I had hoped that the EU would have come to their senses and cooperated with Russia, even having them in the EU itself, but that wouldn’t have suited the banksters. Now EU have cut their throats.

John McCain's Tumor
John McCain's Tumor
  Austrian Peter
December 18, 2022 9:23 am

I believe Putin or one of his close allies will abide as we witness the eventual breakup of the EU as it commits economic suicide. Eventually, this means another European war with Brussels/NATO and the Vatican right in the middle.

Stucky
Stucky
December 17, 2022 9:03 am

“If Carthage waits for Rome to make their next move, trusting in the good faith of the parties to make rational decisions under international law, then it is quite likely that once more, Carthage shall be destroyed.”

You carry your comparison to far.

— Carthage (Russia), since the beginning of the SMO has not, is not, and will not wait on Rome to make moves. Carthage is calling the shots, not Rome.

— Putin has unequivocally said he no longer trusts in “the good faith” of the West, especially America.

— If, somehow, Carthage is destroyed she will take Rome with her by calling on Satan II (and I’m not talking about the little fucker with horns in a red suit.)

Anonymous
Anonymous
December 17, 2022 9:06 am

The analogy, if to be to considered correct, should be reversed with Russia as Rome and US as the baby sacrificing, child mutilating Carthage, and yes , Carthage should have been destroyed. The US hasn’t quite become Carthage yet, but is well on it’s way.

anon a moos
anon a moos
  Anonymous
December 17, 2022 10:25 am

baby sacrificing, child mutilating Carthage… The US hasn’t quite become Carthage yet

You might want to pull your head out of your ass and have a look around. How many MILLIONS of babies have been sacrificed in the US alone in the last twenty plus years??? Oh, you thought they just bury those babies and didn’t really cut them up and sell the parts like a packages of chicken wings.

Yes the US has surpassed Carthage or any other vile country that has ever existed. In the past these evil countries affected mostly regional, the US’s perversions are global. Yes it needs to be destroyed

flash
flash
  anon a moos
December 17, 2022 12:42 pm

You might want to pop yourself a bag bag of buttered dicks and settle down to a little research on Carthage and human sacrifice involving burning and torture, especially using children , then come back and show me where in America public human sacrifice is currently being practiced.

James
James
  flash
December 17, 2022 10:46 pm

Fake pandemics a good start for sacrifices of lives.

John McCain's Tumor
John McCain's Tumor
  flash
December 18, 2022 9:33 am

flash –
Maybe you should reconsider your self-righteousness and ponder the fact the medical industry operates hand-in-hand with the pharma companies which use DNA technology.
Where do fetal stem cells likely originate from? They don’t grow on trees and organ donations would be a prime source from abortion doctors.

The Anonymids make a convoluted, but valid point..

WilliamtheResolute
WilliamtheResolute
December 17, 2022 10:41 am

If history doesn’t repeat, it at least rhymes…I think this time it’s going to be God dictating and it’s going to be the new Babylon and it’s principalities that get destroyed and razed to the ground.

Austrian Peter
Austrian Peter
  WilliamtheResolute
December 17, 2022 11:31 am

A prophecy recorded by Ezekiel gives some insight into what may happen during the last days of the king of the north and the king of the south. (Ezekiel 38:10-23)

Doc
Doc
  WilliamtheResolute
December 17, 2022 10:51 pm

The “new” Babylon is really just the same old Babylon. Like any parasite, it destroys its host and then finds a new one. Revelations shows that Babylon isn’t destroyed until the end days.

Let the world burn
Let the world burn
December 17, 2022 10:45 am

Carthage was corrupt; their leaders just wanted to be “left alone” to feed on the blood of their “lesser,”  the fighting force just followed orders like dogs, and the slave class was no different than pigs in a pen. Its destruction is inevitable, and Rome was just speed it up. In the end, everything will rot and die; nations are no different.

m
m
December 17, 2022 12:53 pm

But this time the US (and Britain and…) will be destroyed, if they take it too far.
Russia will not get away unscathed, but it will survive.

Jdog
Jdog
December 18, 2022 12:52 am

If mankind were rational beings, then the future would be relativity easy to predict. The problem is that mankind is not rational, and the full blown psychopaths, who are the worst of mankind, are the ones most well equipped to rise to the highest levels of power.
Once receiving power they become increasingly mentally unstable and convinced of their invulnerability. This becomes very dangerous for everyone who the psychopath has the power to harm. The second thing that is extremely dangerous is their inability to ever be satisfied and to always be obsessed with conquest.
The US will never stop trying to conquer the rest of the world. It cannot. Our system has been designed over the years to keep the psychopaths in power. I believe both Putin and Xi understand that.
How many times in history have we seen leaders sacrifice their entire countries because of their own refusal to accept any deviation from their obsession. That is the danger of centralized power, and yet, the power becomes more centralized by the day. Dystopia is when we attempt to make sense of the insane obsessions of the psychopaths.