Something wicked this way comes (and by something, I mean mRNA immune system dysregulation)

Guest Post by Alex Berenson

Why the paper reporting an explosion in IgG4 antibodies after the mRNA boosters is so unsettling – in a hopefully easy to understand Q+A

Hope you enjoyed the last week of 2022… and now back to business.

Time for a story in Q+A format. Why?

By now, you have probably heard about the Science Immunology paper showing that people who have received mRNA Covid vaccines produce more of an unusual antibody called IgG4 over time. A number of mRNA skeptics, including me, wrote about it last week.

But the reasons why the paper is so troubling may still not be clear. So here’s a (with luck) digestible explanation, starting with what is probably the most important question: what’s the worst-case scenario?

 

1: What’s the worst-case scenario?

Glad you asked.

The worst-case scenario: the mRNA shots lead to a doom loop, robbing vaccinated people of a crucial immune system tool against the coronavirus in a way that worsens with each new infection.

Thus, over time, the average severity of Covid infections will increase. People will take longer to get better once they’re infected. Hospitalizations and deaths will rise. The health-care system will come under worsening strain.

Oh, and some people may suffer nasty autoimmune side effects too, including pancreatitis, kidney disease, and even aneurysms.

2: Is that all?

Not quite. The truly worst-case scenario would come if those changes combine with a new, more dangerous Sars-Cov-2 variant that our weakened immune systems cannot clear.

 

3: Seriously? How likely is all that?

Yes, seriously.

How likely? No one knows. The good news is that we are probably relatively safe from a more dangerous variant as long as Omicron subvariants predominate. Since Omicron first appeared in late 2021, it has gone through many mutations but remained less dangerous than the original or Delta variants.

As for the “doom loop?” It is probably not very likely, but does “not very” mean 3 percent chance? 20 percent ? 40 percent? Anyone who claims to know is lying. We know much less about the immune system than we pretend, and even less about how these specific changes might affect people in the long run.

As the researchers who found this anomaly noted, it has not yet been proven to cause worse disease in the people it affects. But it hasn’t been disproven either. Researchers simply have not looked at real-world outcomes in enough people who have these changes to know.

 

4: So what are the changes again?

Our immune systems make antibodies against “antigens,” invaders like the coronavirus. Those antibodies attach to the antigens and play two crucial roles – they “neutralize” them by keeping them out of our cells, and they recruit other parts of the immune system to destroy them.

Vaccinations like the mRNA shots accelerate this process by pre-exposing people to the antigen, so that our bodies know how to respond to it before they are infected. The mRNA shots do so by causing our cells to make a part of the coronavirus called the spike protein. They are very effective at making us make spike proteins. In response, our immune systems make very high levels of anti-spike protein antibodies.

 

5: That’s good, right?

Well, yes and no. We clear those vaccine-generated antibodies much more quickly than “natural” antibodies we make in response to infection. This fact became clear within months of the original two-dose vaccination series. Thus the push for boosters, which (briefly) cause another rise in antibodies.

But the Science Immunology paper showed something else, something unusual and unexpected. People who have received mRNA shots make more of an antibody called IgG4, which doesn’t try very hard to destroy the invaders. That process accelerates sharply in people who have received a booster, a third shot.

It accelerates further in people who are infected after being jabbed. Thus the potential doom loop, leaving vaccinated people with only these IgG4 antibodies.

 

6: And then they would totally unprotected from the coronavirus?

No. IgG4s could still offer some protection through their ability to “neutralize” the Sars-Cov-2 viral particles – preventing them from entering our cells and replicating. (Unlike bacteria, viruses cannot reproduce on their own – they need our own cellular machinery to do so.)

The problem is that the Omicron coronavirus spike has a different shape than the spikes of earlier coronavirus variants. The anti-spike protein antibodies we generate – either after infection or vaccination – already have a harder time neutralizing it.

So we could be facing a double whammy; our immune systems would have antibodies that would still attach to the virus, but they would do a bad job both destroying it and keeping it from entering our cells.

 

7: That sounds bad.

It is. We would still have protection through our T-cells, which form a final line of defense. But other research has shown that T-cells don’t match up as well against Omicron as against earlier variants, though they lose their potency relatively slowly compared to antibodies. Research has also shown that additional boosting doesn’t help the T-cell response.

 

8: So if boosters don’t help T-cells, and they cause this IgG4 issue, and the antibodies disappear in a matter of months, and they don’t work very well against Omicron anyway, we have absolutely no reason to give anyone more mRNA shots?

Bingo. Correct. Yes. (Except for vaccine company profits.)

At this point, the long- and medium-term downsides clearly outweigh whatever short-term increase in antibodies boosters provide.

 

9: So what can vaccinated people do, if more shots are off the table?

Mask up!

I jest. At this point, vaccinated people do not have any real options to stop the IgG4 process. However, being infected with Sars-Cov-2 could provide some protection –

 

10: I thought you said that was part of the doom loop?

Hold on!

– by helping the immune system create antibodies to another part of the virus called the nucleocapsid. These anti-nucleocapsid antibodies will not stop future infections, but they may help stop severe disease. (Yes, more infections might both help and hurt. The immune system is tricky.)

 

11: Do you have any good news?

Since the paper came out, certain aggressive anti-vaccine writers have offered horrifying scenarios, for example claiming the IgG4 changes might hurt our ability to fight the flu and other viruses. Those theories are vanishingly unlikely. But the real issues are plenty serious.

 

12: But this is all speculative, right?

Yes. Except that it explains the growing divergence between the countries that used mRNA and those that did not in the last few months. China aside, the mRNA countries have performed far worse than the the rest of the world since early 2022. The mRNA countries have had huge numbers of Covid infections and reinfections that seem divorced from any seasonality. Covid hospitalizations and deaths have been relatively low, but those are now rising too. And overall excess mortality has been stubbornly high.

 

13: So scientists and health authorities and the vaccine companies are now going to launch an all-hands investigation to figure out how serious this finding might be?

You’re funny.

 

14: Seriously –

Seriously has anything in the last two years suggested such an investigation is coming?

 

15: Right. Okay. Speaking of the companies, shouldn’t they have known about this IgG4 stuff?

Yes. This finding is vitally important, and should have become part of the discussion around boosters more than a year ago.

 

16: Did they? Did they say anything?

Did they? It’s not clear. They certainly didn’t say anything publicly (as far as I can tell). Did they privately tell regulators? Probably not, because even the most industry-captured regulatory agency would have had to make this information public.

 

17: What now?

Hopefully some independent and honest academics will investigate both the changes that are occurring on the cellular level and how they may be impacting people’s response to the virus. And we all wait and hope that the ugly trends that countries like Japan – which is very highly mRNA vaccinated and just had its worst month for coronavirus deaths since the epidemic began – do not continue.

 

18: Wait? That’s the best you got? Wait?

Not waiting – wanting medicine at Warp Speed – is what got us into this mess to begin with.

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29 Comments
Anonymous
Anonymous
January 3, 2023 8:13 am

They knew. Planned gigadeath mass murder for profit.

Big pHARMa put the med in premeditation.

Red River D
Red River D
  Anonymous
January 3, 2023 11:31 am

Doc Brown put the “J” in gigawatt.

So it’s premeditated JIGADEATH!!!

That’s a lot of dead meat.

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Anonymous
Anonymous
  Red River D
January 3, 2023 1:41 pm

I thought jigadeath mostly happens in da hood, via lead injection.

Bubo Node
Bubo Node
  Red River D
January 4, 2023 7:46 pm

HAARRRRRFFFFFFFFF!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous
Anonymous
January 3, 2023 8:23 am

VAIDS

GNL
GNL
January 3, 2023 9:03 am

“3: Seriously? How likely is all that?

Yes, seriously.

How likely? No one knows.”

No one knows?!!! HAHAHAHA, but let’s push the fear to the max, right?

DFJ150
DFJ150
  GNL
January 3, 2023 10:39 am

Myocardial infarction and CVA in young healthy athletes, recurrent and aggressive new cancers, meter long abnormal vascular thrombi in people with no clotting disorders or risk factors, neurologic disorders which were previously extremely rare, crippling or fatal myocarditis in children and teens, a huge uptick in sudden death (which is NOT being investigated), increased rates of infection, hospitalization, and death among the jabbed. All since the (non)vaccine was rolled out. How much evidence of harm and death do you need before you admit this was carefully orchestrated and carried out, having exactly the intended effects? My guess is you are one of the mask-wearing, social distancing, lockdown-embracing, Biden/Fauxci supporting cretins who is currently in line to willingly take your 37th “safe and effective”booster. Too much Kool-aid does terrible things to one’s judgement and critical thinking skills, if any ever existed, not to mention one’s long term health and survival.

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  DFJ150
January 3, 2023 11:25 am

DFJ150,

No one has been more anti mask or anit jab than me. I have lost several relationships with friends and family members. Good riddance is all I have to say to them.

BUT, you ask what evidence do I need? I need personal up close evidence, that’s what I need and it is sorely lacking.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Glock-N-Load
January 3, 2023 8:41 pm

I need personal up close evidence, that’s what I need”

Instead of a snarky quip, “Be careful what You wish for”

A Thought Problem, in good faith.

Definitive Proof of ‘Bad’. What then? Count on the politicians who removed themselves (whatever means) from ‘Mandatory’, And provided ‘immunity’ to the Drug Mavens, to DO SOMETHING? ANYTHING?

NOT directed at You personally, trying to gain consensus.

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  Anonymous
January 3, 2023 8:46 pm

I’m jaded over endless lies and propaganda. I’m the first to admit being overwhelmed by it all. I chose long ago to steer clear of the jab. Even told everyone I knew to avoid it if for no other reason than the fact many people/groups were exempt. It’s pretty simple. BUT that does not mean billions are going to die from the jab. Up close and personal just means, if I can’t touch it, smell it, see it, taste it or hear it…does it exist?

mark
mark
  Glock-N-Load
January 3, 2023 9:42 pm

Donkey,

The magnitude of difference between billion and million and trillion can be illustrated with this example of a time scale:

A million seconds is 12 days.
A billion seconds is 31 years.
A trillion seconds is 31,688 years.

Picture walking down a line of JUST a hundred people killed by the vax bio weapon…and looking into their faces…and consider the tears, the pain, the anguish…and the soon to be rage (cuz the rage is coming) on the faces of the people who loved them.

That should be far…far enough to stop the mass murder/genocide.

And none of the hundred faces have to be someone you anecdotally know…they still are murdered beings who are human.

This genocide looks to me like it is in it’s infancy.

My jaded jad jad is jaded too…but over the death cult’s success…and they are just getting warmed up with the Jabs.

BL
BL
  mark
January 3, 2023 10:31 pm

Amen and Amen

Glock-N-Load
Glock-N-Load
  mark
January 3, 2023 11:02 pm

“Billions” got stuck in my craw because, in my mind, it is the antithesis of “Safe and Effective” that was bandied about. No, not even 100 should parish based on propaganda and lies.

However, I can only get on board with the belief this is a genocide if/when I see it first hand. That’s where my mind is. I also am pretty sure we cannot win if they really wanted a genocide. These people are amazingly good at what they do. To imagine what they could do, one only needs to think like a psychopath/sociopath.

I think they’ll get away with whatever they want because without this…
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…ain’t nothing gonna change the direction.

AP had a pretty good comment somewhere today. He asked the question…who are you going to after, the “system”?

GNL
GNL
January 3, 2023 9:07 am

Count how many times, in all of these articles, you see the word “might” or “maybe” or “we just don’t know” or “not yet proven” or etc etc etc.

anon a moos
anon a moos
  GNL
January 3, 2023 9:41 am

Yep you nailed it. ANY theory or topic discussed with maybe, perhaps, possibly, suddenly is all story time, guesses based on weak evidences.

Which means do not embrace it until you are confident that there is enough evidence to either falsify or confirm the topic.

This article is more of the same doom porn that serves to keep the scamdemic saddled, exactly like the climate BS.

Warren
Warren
  anon a moos
January 3, 2023 11:28 am

Which is why it usually takes seven years to release a new pharmaceutical drug. Because Maybe it works, and maybe it doesn’t.
And Maybe it’s harmful and maybe it isn’t.
And maybe the harm outweighs the benefits and maybe it doesn’t.
So let’s maybe not release it Suddenly until we know one way or another.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  GNL
January 3, 2023 9:58 am

How much of “might/maybe/don’t know” did you hear from Fauci/CDC/Pfizer/FDA/media regarding either the shots or Covid itself?
If you answered “none whatsoever” give yourself a pat on the back for the right answer, then use the same hand to slap the stupid off you for not being able to discern science from scientism.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
January 3, 2023 10:10 am

They made it all up, folks. They admit it:

DAMNING: Deborah Birx Admits She and Fauci Made COVID Rules Out of Thin Air, Hid Data (7.19.22)

The Smoking Gun: Where is the coronavirus? The CDC says it isn’t available.

COVID: The Virus That Isn’t There: The Root Fraud Exposed

The fake coronavirus and the missing study: the secret in plain sight

MORE:
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/page/2/?s=cdc+admits&submit=Search

anon a moos
anon a moos
  Anonymous
January 3, 2023 10:21 am

Well douchebag you should slap the stupid from yourself as its well documented throughout the whole scam the maybes and changing narratives. But I suspect that if you were to start slapping the stupid from yourself you’ll be in a coma from the beating.

Discerning the science from scientism was exactly what most here on TBP called out. Most here saw the cultism push for vax obedience and shifting ‘science’ for what it was. We’re told being that stupid is painless, can you confirm this please.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  anon a moos
January 3, 2023 10:09 pm

CUNT

Dying Sun
Dying Sun
  GNL
January 3, 2023 11:04 am

Any person who calls himself a scientist, and does not use the words ‘“might” or “maybe” or “we just don’t know” or “not yet proven”’ is a fraud. Read the book “Science Is Not What You Think” by Henry H. Bauer (a scientist) and educate yourself. Science is a belief system. It’s only advantage is that it’s supposed to be self-correcting. Unfortunately, that’s not happening since scientists are people, and many in science today are too arrogant, self-righteous, and/or greedy to admit they’re wrong. Pox on scientists who think they are god.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Dying Sun
January 3, 2023 11:24 am

The Faux Faith of Modern Science

“It is simply no longer possible to believe much of the clinical research that is published, or to rely on the judgment of trusted physicians or authoritative medical guidelines,” stated Dr. Marcia Angell, the former editor of The New England Journal of Medicine. “I take no pleasure in this conclusion, which I reached slowly and reluctantly over my two decades as an editor,” she wrote in a 2009 piece titled “Drug Companies & Doctors: A Story of Corruption.”

Years later, Richard Horton, editor of The Lancet echoed this sentiment: “… Something has gone fundamentally wrong with one of our greatest human creations … The case against science is straightforward: much of the scientific literature, perhaps half, may simply be untrue. Afflicted by studies with small sample sizes, tiny effects, invalid exploratory analyses and flagrant conflicts of interest, together with an obsession for pursuing fashionable trends of dubious importance, science has taken a turn towards darkness.”

mark
mark
  Anonymous
January 3, 2023 10:18 pm

Mostly the demonic Rockefellers…once again.

How John D. Rockefeller Used the AMA to Take Over Western Medicine

Euddolen ap Afallach
Euddolen ap Afallach
  Dying Sun
January 5, 2023 4:35 pm

A double pox on them and their descendants to the fourth generation?

Euddolen ap Afallach
Euddolen ap Afallach
  GNL
January 5, 2023 4:33 pm

That is the type of science we were programmed for.

Typical segment on any network news channel circa 1970 to 2023:
“A news science study out today suggests drinking two glasses of red wine per day may improve heart health.”

The average “American Gump” hears this in the vernacular as “drinking red wine helps my heart” and off he goes and buys several boxes of Sauvig, (completely ignoring all the maybes in the “science”)

I looked up one of these “studies” re: red wine, and it was a two month study with 40 participants.

What it really is, is an advert for wine producers to clear out last years red wines.

Toby
Toby
January 3, 2023 10:06 am

Something Wicked This Way Comes

It is evil that steals your life and your hope.
Nothing good shall come that’s been spoke.
Nothing, no nothing, just death here besides,
Nothing here, no birth, no life neither far or wide.

The time of Jacob’s trouble, now a malevolent strain;
A virulent wisp creeps upon us, flows in our veins;
A ghastly tendril hiding in our underbelly, silent.
Waiting, waiting, slowly creeping, a piercing trident.

We shall not come this way again, soon gone away.
We shall not rise again, never in our time to stay.
There is no tomorrow, no future days that lay ahead.
There is only suffering, crying, and dying upon our bed.

Nothing new under the sun, sinister, pure evil, a humanity crime;
Destruction this way comes, a weevil eating at hearts and minds.
A vast pestilence of humanity needing to be culled by some.
Shakespeare said it right, “Something wicked this way comes.”

mark
mark
January 3, 2023 12:43 pm
Anonymous
Anonymous
January 3, 2023 8:26 pm

Seems like i read about patents for the “Safe & Effective” being issued some time ago, maybe Years?

Probably know EXACTLY what is going to go down, besides bodies, as the deaths go up.

If i was a tinfoil hat wearin’ conspiracy theorist?

Probably one of the myriad ‘things’ tested (and STILL being ‘fine-tuned’) in the Bio-Weapons Labs in 404.

That ABSOLUTELY NOBODY is talking about.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
January 3, 2023 10:14 pm

Nobody’s talking about them now because nobody knows, because there’s a war.
It’s unfortunate, but we’ll probably never know what went down in Ukie bioweapons labs.
Only Russia can tell us. Whatever Russia might tell us will be called propaganda by our propagandists and 90% of America will dutifully ignore it.
This will be compounded by the fact that whatever Russia might tell us may actually be propaganda in whole or in part.