How America Took Out The Nord Stream Pipeline

Guest Post by Seymour Hersh

The New York Times called it a “mystery,” but the United States executed a covert sea operation that was kept secret—until now

“Biden’s decision to sabotage the pipelines came after more than nine months of highly secret back and forth debate inside Washington’s national security community . . .”

NORD STREAM

The U.S. Navy’s Diving and Salvage Center can be found in a location as obscure as its name—down what was once a country lane in rural Panama City, a now-booming resort city in the southwestern panhandle of Florida, 70 miles south of the Alabama border. The center’s complex is as nondescript as its location—a drab concrete post-World War II structure that has the look of a vocational high school on the west side of Chicago. A coin-operated laundromat and a dance school are across what is now a four-lane road.

The center has been training highly skilled deep-water divers for decades who, once assigned to American military units worldwide, are capable of technical diving to do the good—using C4 explosives to clear harbors and beaches of debris and unexploded ordinance—as well as the bad, like blowing up foreign oil rigs, fouling intake valves for undersea power plants, destroying locks on crucial shipping canals. The Panama City center, which boasts the second largest indoor pool in America, was the perfect place to recruit the best, and most taciturn, graduates of the diving school who successfully did last summer what they had been authorized to do 260 feet under the surface of the Baltic Sea.

Last June, the Navy divers, operating under the cover of a widely publicized mid-summer NATO exercise known as BALTOPS 22, planted the remotely triggered explosives that, three months later, destroyed three of the four Nord Stream pipelines, according to a source with direct knowledge of the operational planning.

Two of the pipelines, which were known collectively as Nord Stream 1, had been providing Germany and much of Western Europe with cheap Russian natural gas for more than a decade. A second pair of pipelines, called Nord Stream 2, had been built but were not yet operational. Now, with Russian troops massing on the Ukrainian border and the bloodiest war in Europe since 1945 looming, President Joseph Biden saw the pipelines as a vehicle for Vladimir Putin to weaponize natural gas for his political and territorial ambitions.

Asked for comment, Adrienne Watson, a White House spokesperson, said in an email, “This is false and complete fiction.” Tammy Thorp, a spokesperson for the Central Intelligence Agency, similarly wrote: “This claim is completely and utterly false.”

Biden’s decision to sabotage the pipelines came after more than nine months of highly secret back and forth debate inside Washington’s national security community about how to best achieve that goal. For much of that time, the issue was not whether to do the mission, but how to get it done with no overt clue as to who was responsible.

There was a vital bureaucratic reason for relying on the graduates of the center’s hardcore diving school in Panama City. The divers were Navy only, and not members of America’s Special Forces Command, whose covert operations must be reported to Congress and briefed in advance to the Senate and House leadership—the so-called Gang of Eight. The Biden Administration was doing everything possible to avoid leaks as the planning took place late in 2021 and into the first months of 2022.

President Biden and his foreign policy team—National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan, Secretary of State Tony Blinken, and Victoria Nuland, the Undersecretary of State for Policy—had been vocal and consistent in their hostility to the two pipelines, which ran side by side for 750 miles under the Baltic Sea from two different ports in northeastern Russia near the Estonian border, passing close to the Danish island of Bornholm before ending in northern Germany.

The direct route, which bypassed any need to transit Ukraine, had been a boon for the German economy, which enjoyed an abundance of cheap Russian natural gas—enough to run its factories and heat its homes while enabling German distributors to sell excess gas, at a profit, throughout Western Europe. Action that could be traced to the administration would violate US promises to minimize direct conflict with Russia. Secrecy was essential.

From its earliest days, Nord Stream 1 was seen by Washington and its anti-Russian NATO partners as a threat to western dominance. The holding company behind it, Nord Stream AG, was incorporated in Switzerland in 2005 in partnership with Gazprom, a publicly traded Russian company producing enormous profits for shareholders which is dominated by oligarchs known to be in the thrall of Putin. Gazprom controlled 51 percent of the company, with four European energy firms—one in France, one in the Netherlands and two in Germany—sharing the remaining 49 percent of stock, and having the right to control downstream sales of the inexpensive natural gas to local distributors in Germany and Western Europe. Gazprom’s profits were shared with the Russian government, and state gas and oil revenues were estimated in some years to amount to as much as 45 percent of Russia’s annual budget.

America’s political fears were real: Putin would now have an additional and much-needed major source of income, and Germany and the rest of Western Europe would become addicted to low-cost natural gas supplied by Russia—while diminishing European reliance on America. In fact, that’s exactly what happened. Many Germans saw Nord Stream 1 as part of the deliverance of former Chancellor Willy Brandt’s famed Ostpolitik theory, which would enable postwar Germany to rehabilitate itself and other European nations destroyed in World War II by, among other initiatives, utilizing cheap Russian gas to fuel a prosperous Western European market and trading economy.

Nord Stream 1 was dangerous enough, in the view of NATO and Washington, but Nord Stream 2, whose construction was completed in September of 2021, would, if approved by German regulators, double the amount of cheap gas that would be available to Germany and Western Europe. The second pipeline also would provide enough gas for more than 50 percent of Germany’s annual consumption. Tensions were constantly escalating between Russia and NATO, backed by the aggressive foreign policy of the Biden Administration.

Opposition to Nord Stream 2 flared on the eve of the Biden inauguration in January 2021, when Senate Republicans, led by Ted Cruz of Texas, repeatedly raised the political threat of cheap Russian natural gas during the confirmation hearing of Blinken as Secretary of State. By then a unified Senate had successfully passed a law that, as Cruz told Blinken, “halted [the pipeline] in its tracks.” There would be enormous political and economic pressure from the German government, then headed by Angela Merkel, to get the second pipeline online.

Would Biden stand up to the Germans? Blinken said yes, but added that he had not discussed the specifics of the incoming President’s views. “I know his strong conviction that this is a bad idea, the Nord Stream 2,” he said. “I know that he would have us use every persuasive tool that we have to convince our friends and partners, including Germany, not to move forward with it.”

A few months later, as the construction of the second pipeline neared completion, Biden blinked. That May, in a stunning turnaround, the administration waived sanctions against Nord Stream AG, with a State Department official conceding that trying to stop the pipeline through sanctions and diplomacy had “always been a long shot.” Behind the scenes, administration officials reportedly urged Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, by then facing a threat of Russian invasion, not to criticize the move.

There were immediate consequences. Senate Republicans, led by Cruz, announced an immediate blockade of all of Biden’s foreign policy nominees and delayed passage of the annual defense bill for months, deep into the fall. Politico later depicted Biden’s turnabout on the second Russian pipeline as “the one decision, arguably more than the chaotic military withdrawal from Afghanistan, that has imperiled Biden’s agenda.”

The administration was floundering, despite getting a reprieve on the crisis in mid-November, when Germany’s energy regulators suspended approval of the second Nord Stream pipeline. Natural gas prices surged 8% within days, amid growing fears in Germany and Europe that the pipeline suspension and the growing possibility of a war between Russia and Ukraine would lead to a very much unwanted cold winter. It was not clear to Washington just where Olaf Scholz, Germany’s newly appointed chancellor, stood. Months earlier, after the fall of Afghanistan, Scholtz had publicly endorsed French President Emmanuel Macron’s call for a more autonomous European foreign policy in a speech in Prague—clearly suggesting less reliance on Washington and its mercurial actions.

Throughout all of this, Russian troops had been steadily and ominously building up on the borders of Ukraine, and by the end of December more than 100,000 soldiers were in position to strike from Belarus and Crimea. Alarm was growing in Washington, including an assessment from Blinken that those troop numbers could be “doubled in short order.”

The administration’s attention once again was focused on Nord Stream. As long as Europe remained dependent on the pipelines for cheap natural gas, Washington was afraid that countries like Germany would be reluctant to supply Ukraine with the money and weapons it needed to defeat Russia.

It was at this unsettled moment that Biden authorized Jake Sullivan to bring together an interagency group to come up with a plan.

All options were to be on the table. But only one would emerge.

PLANNING

In December of 2021, two months before the first Russian tanks rolled into Ukraine, Jake Sullivan convened a meeting of a newly formed task force—men and women from the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the CIA, and the State and Treasury Departments—and asked for recommendations about how to respond to Putin’s impending invasion.

It would be the first of a series of top-secret meetings, in a secure room on a top floor of the Old Executive Office Building, adjacent to the White House, that was also the home of the President’s Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board (PFIAB). There was the usual back and forth chatter that eventually led to a crucial preliminary question: Would the recommendation forwarded by the group to the President be reversible—such as another layer of sanctions and currency restrictions—or irreversible—that is, kinetic actions, which could not be undone?

What became clear to participants, according to the source with direct knowledge of the process, is that Sullivan intended for the group to come up with a plan for the destruction of the two Nord Stream pipelines—and that he was delivering on the desires of the President.

THE PLAYERS Left to right: Victoria Nuland, Anthony Blinken, and Jake Sullivan.

Over the next several meetings, the participants debated options for an attack. The Navy proposed using a newly commissioned submarine to assault the pipeline directly. The Air Force discussed dropping bombs with delayed fuses that could be set off remotely. The CIA argued that whatever was done, it would have to be covert. Everyone involved understood the stakes. “This is not kiddie stuff,” the source said. If the attack were traceable to the United States, “It’s an act of war.”

At the time, the CIA was directed by William Burns, a mild-mannered former ambassador to Russia who had served as deputy secretary of state in the Obama Administration. Burns quickly authorized an Agency working group whose ad hoc members included—by chance—someone who was familiar with the capabilities of the Navy’s deep-sea divers in Panama City. Over the next few weeks, members of the CIA’s working group began to craft a plan for a covert operation that would use deep-sea divers to trigger an explosion along the pipeline.

Something like this had been done before. In 1971, the American intelligence community learned from still undisclosed sources that two important units of the Russian Navy were communicating via an undersea cable buried in the Sea of Okhotsk, on Russia’s Far East Coast. The cable linked a regional Navy command to the mainland headquarters at Vladivostok.

A hand-picked team of Central Intelligence Agency and National Security Agency operatives was assembled somewhere in the Washington area, under deep cover, and worked out a plan, using Navy divers, modified submarines and a deep-submarine rescue vehicle, that succeeded, after much trial and error, in locating the Russian cable. The divers planted a sophisticated listening device on the cable that successfully intercepted the Russian traffic and recorded it on a taping system.

The NSA learned that senior Russian navy officers, convinced of the security of their communication link, chatted away with their peers without encryption. The recording device and its tape had to be replaced monthly and the project rolled on merrily for a decade until it was compromised by a forty-four-year-old civilian NSA technician named Ronald Pelton who was fluent in Russian. Pelton was betrayed by a Russian defector in 1985 and sentenced to prison. He was paid just $5,000 by the Russians for his revelations about the operation, along with $35,000 for other Russian operational data he provided that was never made public.

That underwater success, codenamed Ivy Bells, was innovative and risky, and produced invaluable intelligence about the Russian Navy’s intentions and planning.

Still, the interagency group was initially skeptical of the CIA’s enthusiasm for a covert deep-sea attack. There were too many unanswered questions. The waters of the Baltic Sea were heavily patrolled by the Russian navy, and there were no oil rigs that could be used as cover for a diving operation. Would the divers have to go to Estonia, right across the border from Russia’s natural gas loading docks, to train for the mission? “It would be a goat fuck,” the Agency was told.

Throughout “all of this scheming,” the source said, “some working guys in the CIA and the State Department were saying, ‘Don’t do this. It’s stupid and will be a political nightmare if it comes out.’”

Nevertheless, in early 2022, the CIA working group reported back to Sullivan’s interagency group: “We have a way to blow up the pipelines.”

What came next was stunning. On February 7, less than three weeks before the seemingly inevitable Russian invasion of Ukraine, Biden met in his White House office with German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, who, after some wobbling, was now firmly on the American team. At the press briefing that followed, Biden defiantly said, “If Russia invades . . . there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it.”

Twenty days earlier, Undersecretary Nuland had delivered essentially the same message at a State Department briefing, with little press coverage. “I want to be very clear to you today,” she said in response to a question. “If Russia invades Ukraine, one way or another Nord Stream 2 will not move forward.”

Several of those involved in planning the pipeline mission were dismayed by what they viewed as indirect references to the attack.

“It was like putting an atomic bomb on the ground in Tokyo and telling the Japanese that we are going to detonate it,” the source said. “The plan was for the options to be executed post invasion and not advertised publicly. Biden simply didn’t get it or ignored it.”

Biden’s and Nuland’s indiscretion, if that is what it was, might have frustrated some of the planners. But it also created an opportunity. According to the source, some of the senior officials of the CIA determined that blowing up the pipeline “no longer could be considered a covert option because the President just announced that we knew how to do it.”

The plan to blow up Nord Stream 1 and 2 was suddenly downgraded from a covert operation requiring that Congress be informed to one that was deemed as a highly classified intelligence operation with U.S. military support. Under the law, the source explained, “There was no longer a legal requirement to report the operation to Congress. All they had to do now is just do it—but it still had to be secret. The Russians have superlative surveillance of the Baltic Sea.”

The Agency working group members had no direct contact with the White House, and were eager to find out if the President meant what he’d said—that is, if the mission was now a go. The source recalled, “Bill Burns comes back and says, ‘Do it.’”

“The Norwegian navy was quick to find the right spot, in the shallow water a few miles off Denmark’s Bornholm Island . . .”

THE OPERATION

Norway was the perfect place to base the mission.

In the past few years of East-West crisis, the U.S. military has vastly expanded its presence inside Norway, whose western border runs 1,400 miles along the north Atlantic Ocean and merges above the Arctic Circle with Russia. The Pentagon has created high paying jobs and contracts, amid some local controversy, by investing hundreds of millions of dollars to upgrade and expand American Navy and Air Force facilities in Norway. The new works included, most importantly, an advanced synthetic aperture radar far up north that was capable of penetrating deep into Russia and came online just as the American intelligence community lost access to a series of long-range listening sites inside China.

A newly refurbished American submarine base, which had been under construction for years, had become operational and more American submarines were now able to work closely with their Norwegian colleagues to monitor and spy on a major Russian nuclear redoubt 250 miles to the east, on the Kola Peninsula. America also has vastly expanded a Norwegian air base in the north and delivered to the Norwegian air force a fleet of Boeing-built P8 Poseidon patrol planes to bolster its long-range spying on all things Russia.

In return, the Norwegian government angered liberals and some moderates in its parliament last November by passing the Supplementary Defense Cooperation Agreement (SDCA). Under the new deal, the U.S. legal system would have jurisdiction in certain “agreed areas” in the North over American soldiers accused of crimes off base, as well as over those Norwegian citizens accused or suspected of interfering with the work at the base.

Norway was one of the original signatories of the NATO Treaty in 1949, in the early days of the Cold War. Today, the supreme commander of NATO is Jens Stoltenberg, a committed anti-communist, who served as Norway’s prime minister for eight years before moving to his high NATO post, with American backing, in 2014. He was a hardliner on all things Putin and Russia who had cooperated with the American intelligence community since the Vietnam War. He has been trusted completely since. “He is the glove that fits the American hand,” the source said.

Back in Washington, planners knew they had to go to Norway. “They hated the Russians, and the Norwegian navy was full of superb sailors and divers who had generations of experience in highly profitable deep-sea oil and gas exploration,” the source said. They also could be trusted to keep the mission secret. (The Norwegians may have had other interests as well. The destruction of Nord Stream—if the Americans could pull it off—would allow Norway to sell vastly more of its own natural gas to Europe.)

Sometime in March, a few members of the team flew to Norway to meet with the Norwegian Secret Service and Navy. One of the key questions was where exactly in the Baltic Sea was the best place to plant the explosives. Nord Stream 1 and 2, each with two sets of pipelines, were separated much of the way by little more than a mile as they made their run to the port of Greifswald in the far northeast of Germany.

The Norwegian navy was quick to find the right spot, in the shallow waters of the Baltic sea a few miles off Denmark’s Bornholm Island. The pipelines ran more than a mile apart along a seafloor that was only 260 feet deep. That would be well within the range of the divers, who, operating from a Norwegian Alta class mine hunter, would dive with a mixture of oxygen, nitrogen and helium streaming from their tanks, and plant shaped C4 charges on the four pipelines with concrete protective covers. It would be tedious, time consuming and dangerous work, but the waters off Bornholm had another advantage: there were no major tidal currents, which would have made the task of diving much more difficult.

After a bit of research, the Americans were all in.

At this point, the Navy’s obscure deep-diving group in Panama City once again came into play. The deep-sea schools at Panama City, whose trainees participated in Ivy Bells, are seen as an unwanted backwater by the elite graduates of the Naval Academy in Annapolis, who typically seek the glory of being assigned as a Seal, fighter pilot, or submariner. If one must become a “Black Shoe”—that is, a member of the less desirable surface ship command—there is always at least duty on a destroyer, cruiser or amphibious ship. The least glamorous of all is mine warfare. Its divers never appear in Hollywood movies, or on the cover of popular magazines.

“The best divers with deep diving qualifications are a tight community, and only the very best are recruited for the operation and told to be prepared to be summoned to the CIA in Washington,” the source said.

The Norwegians and Americans had a location and the operatives, but there was another concern: any unusual underwater activity in the waters off Bornholm might draw the attention of the Swedish or Danish navies, which could report it.

Denmark had also been one of the original NATO signatories and was known in the intelligence community for its special ties to the United Kingdom. Sweden had applied for membership into NATO, and had demonstrated its great skill in managing its underwater sound and magnetic sensor systems that successfully tracked Russian submarines that would occasionally show up in remote waters of the Swedish archipelago and be forced to the surface.

The Norwegians joined the Americans in insisting that some senior officials in Denmark and Sweden had to be briefed in general terms about possible diving activity in the area. In that way, someone higher up could intervene and keep a report out of the chain of command, thus insulating the pipeline operation. “What they were told and what they knew were purposely different,” the source told me. (The Norwegian embassy, asked to comment on this story, did not respond.)

The Norwegians were key to solving other hurdles. The Russian navy was known to possess surveillance technology capable of spotting, and triggering, underwater mines. The American explosive devices needed to be camouflaged in a way that would make them appear to the Russian system as part of the natural background—something that required adapting to the specific salinity of the water. The Norwegians had a fix.

The Norwegians also had a solution to the crucial question of when the operation should take place. Every June, for the past 21 years, the American Sixth Fleet, whose flagship is based in Gaeta, Italy, south of Rome, has sponsored a major NATO exercise in the Baltic Sea involving scores of allied ships throughout the region. The current exercise, held in June, would be known as Baltic Operations 22, or BALTOPS 22. The Norwegians proposed this would be the ideal cover to plant the mines.

The Americans provided one vital element: they convinced the Sixth Fleet planners to add a research and development exercise to the program. The exercise, as made public by the Navy, involved the Sixth Fleet in collaboration with the Navy’s “research and warfare centers.” The at-sea event would be held off the coast of Bornholm Island and involve NATO teams of divers planting mines, with competing teams using the latest underwater technology to find and destroy them.

It was both a useful exercise and ingenious cover. The Panama City boys would do their thing and the C4 explosives would be in place by the end of BALTOPS22, with a 48-hour timer attached. All of the Americans and Norwegians would be long gone by the first explosion.

The days were counting down. “The clock was ticking, and we were nearing mission accomplished,” the source said.

And then: Washington had second thoughts. The bombs would still be planted during BALTOPS, but the White House worried that a two-day window for their detonation would be too close to the end of the exercise, and it would be obvious that America had been involved.

Instead, the White House had a new request: “Can the guys in the field come up with some way to blow the pipelines later on command?”

Some members of the planning team were angered and frustrated by the President’s seeming indecision. The Panama City divers had repeatedly practiced planting the C4 on pipelines, as they would during BALTOPS, but now the team in Norway had to come up with a way to give Biden what he wanted—the ability to issue a successful execution order at a time of his choosing.

Being tasked with an arbitrary, last-minute change was something the CIA was accustomed to managing. But it also renewed the concerns some shared over the necessity, and legality, of the entire operation.

The President’s secret orders also evoked the CIA’s dilemma in the Vietnam War days, when President Johnson, confronted by growing anti-Vietnam War sentiment, ordered the Agency to violate its charter—which specifically barred it from operating inside America—by spying on antiwar leaders to determine whether they were being controlled by Communist Russia.

The agency ultimately acquiesced, and throughout the 1970s it became clear just how far it had been willing to go. There were subsequent newspaper revelations in the aftermath of the Watergate scandals about the Agency’s spying on American citizens, its involvement in the assassination of foreign leaders and its undermining of the socialist government of Salvador Allende.

Those revelations led to a dramatic series of hearings in the mid-1970s in the Senate, led by Frank Church of Idaho, that made it clear that Richard Helms, the Agency director at the time, accepted that he had an obligation to do what the President wanted, even if it meant violating the law.

In unpublished, closed-door testimony, Helms ruefully explained that “you almost have an Immaculate Conception when you do something” under secret orders from a President. “Whether it’s right that you should have it, or wrong that you shall have it, [the CIA] works under different rules and ground rules than any other part of the government.” He was essentially telling the Senators that he, as head of the CIA, understood that he had been working for the Crown, and not the Constitution.

The Americans at work in Norway operated under the same dynamic, and dutifully began working on the new problem—how to remotely detonate the C4 explosives on Biden’s order. It was a much more demanding assignment than those in Washington understood. There was no way for the team in Norway to know when the President might push the button. Would it be in a few weeks, in many months or in half a year or longer?

The C4 attached to the pipelines would be triggered by a sonar buoy dropped by a plane on short notice, but the procedure involved the most advanced signal processing technology. Once in place, the delayed timing devices attached to any of the four pipelines could be accidentally triggered by the complex mix of ocean background noises throughout the heavily trafficked Baltic Sea—from near and distant ships, underwater drilling, seismic events, waves and even sea creatures. To avoid this, the sonar buoy, once in place, would emit a sequence of unique low frequency tonal sounds—much like those emitted by a flute or a piano—that would be recognized by the timing device and, after a pre-set hours of delay, trigger the explosives. (“You want a signal that is robust enough so that no other signal could accidentally send a pulse that detonated the explosives,” I was told by Dr. Theodore Postol, professor emeritus of science, technology and national security policy at MIT. Postol, who has served as the science adviser to the Pentagon’s Chief of Naval Operations, said the issue facing the group in Norway because of Biden’s delay was one of chance: “The longer the explosives are in the water the greater risk there would be of a random signal that would launch the bombs.”)

On September 26, 2022, a Norwegian Navy P8 surveillance plane made a seemingly routine flight and dropped a sonar buoy. The signal spread underwater, initially to Nord Stream 2 and then on to Nord Stream 1. A few hours later, the high-powered C4 explosives were triggered and three of the four pipelines were put out of commission. Within a few minutes, pools of methane gas that remained in the shuttered pipelines could be seen spreading on the water’s surface and the world learned that something irreversible had taken place.

FALLOUT

In the immediate aftermath of the pipeline bombing, the American media treated it like an unsolved mystery. Russia was repeatedly cited as a likely culprit, spurred on by calculated leaks from the White House—but without ever establishing a clear motive for such an act of self-sabotage, beyond simple retribution. A few months later, when it emerged that Russian authorities had been quietly getting estimates for the cost to repair the pipelines, the New York Times described the news as “complicating theories about who was behind” the attack. No major American newspaper dug into the earlier threats to the pipelines made by Biden and Undersecretary of State Nuland.

While it was never clear why Russia would seek to destroy its own lucrative pipeline, a more telling rationale for the President’s action came from Secretary of State Blinken.

Asked at a press conference last September about the consequences of the worsening energy crisis in Western Europe, Blinken described the moment as a potentially good one:

“It’s a tremendous opportunity to once and for all remove the dependence on Russian energy and thus to take away from Vladimir Putin the weaponization of energy as a means of advancing his imperial designs. That’s very significant and that offers tremendous strategic opportunity for the years to come, but meanwhile we’re determined to do everything we possibly can to make sure the consequences of all of this are not borne by citizens in our countries or, for that matter, around the world.”

More recently, Victoria Nuland expressed satisfaction at the demise of the newest of the pipelines. Testifying at a Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing in late January she told Senator Ted Cruz, “​Like you, I am, and I think the Administration is, very gratified to know that Nord Stream 2 is now, as you like to say, a hunk of metal at the bottom of the sea.”

The source had a much more streetwise view of Biden’s decision to sabotage more than 1500 miles of Gazprom pipeline as winter approached. “Well,” he said, speaking of the President, “I gotta admit the guy has a pair of balls.  He said he was going to do it, and he did.”

Asked why he thought the Russians failed to respond, he said cynically, “Maybe they want the capability to do the same things the U.S. did.

“It was a beautiful cover story,” he went on. “Behind it was a covert operation that placed experts in the field and equipment that operated on a covert signal.

“The only flaw was the decision to do it.”

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133 Comments
anon a moos
anon a moos
February 8, 2023 10:50 am

Murika doing what murika does best. Destroying shit around the world.

Funniest statement was that pedo joe got balls… Thats laughable, he’s a senile old POS that has zero concerns about anyone, balls not required.

lamont cranston
lamont cranston
  anon a moos
February 8, 2023 11:02 am

Joe??? No way. Obummer or Susan Rice. Or another Khazarian.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  lamont cranston
February 8, 2023 11:49 am

Black Khazars, jewish Nazis, mass hysteria!

Eyes Wide Shut
Eyes Wide Shut
  Anonymous
February 8, 2023 2:44 pm

NATION
HAL TURNER
07 FEBRUARY 2023
HITS: 14995

COVERT INTEL – SUBSCRIBERS ONLY
This content is for subscribers only

A contact in the United States Air Force told me this afternoon ” A four star General came in today and personally told all of us “Make sure your Last Will and Testaments are up-to-date. Get ALL your equipment ready. China/Taiwan is a “go” within the next six months, and may involve our west coast.”

More if I get it . .

Klingon
Klingon
  Eyes Wide Shut
February 8, 2023 2:50 pm

Hal Turner posts are notorious for pure B.S. clickbait.

Eyes Wide Shut
Eyes Wide Shut
  Klingon
February 8, 2023 3:19 pm

Most of his reporting is pretty accurate and ahead of the curve.
His commentary generally thinks every issue he reports will lead to WW3 the next day though.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Klingon
February 9, 2023 12:38 am

You forgot paid by theFBI.

Jimmy
Jimmy
  Eyes Wide Shut
February 8, 2023 4:25 pm

Shhhh!
[I was in the French resistance]

VERY 'Terroritorial'
VERY 'Terroritorial'
  Eyes Wide Shut
February 8, 2023 11:26 pm

“China/Taiwan is a “go” within”

Pray Tell. WHY would Two (2) ‘States’ of THE SAME ‘Country’ start a War over a ‘territory’?

Did Guam finally flip over & sink?

Empty
Empty
  Eyes Wide Shut
February 9, 2023 10:31 am

Not sure why the thumbs down. Perhaps I need to lookup Hal Turner, but then what’s all this gobbeldygook about subscribers only followed by what looks like info we aren’t supposed to see? I guess I’ll just do the wise thing and look up Hal. So, he’s essentially Alex Jones. Well, it’s not as if I’ll be more or less ready than I already am. All they could do at the most is kill us all, right? But I’m not sure what else I can acquire within 6 months. Maybe something off a dead soldier worth nabbing.

Mother Gaia
Mother Gaia
  Empty
February 10, 2023 3:46 am

” something off a dead soldier worth nabbing.”

Please recycle. It’s the PATRIOTIC! right thing to do.

After All…”It’s For The CHILDREN!”
And the planet.

Jimmy
Jimmy
  Anonymous
February 8, 2023 4:24 pm

Black Khazars, jewish Nazis, mass hysteria!

Ambiguous, comment of the.

Captain_Obviuos
Captain_Obviuos
  Jimmy
February 8, 2023 8:31 pm

It was a “Ghostbusters” shout-out joke, Jimmy.

Bill Murray’s character (Venkman) yells, “Dogs and cats, living together, mass hysteria!”

Well-played, Anon.

JoeBob
JoeBob
  lamont cranston
February 8, 2023 12:19 pm

Right. The most obvious flaw in this story is that Biden is deciding anything.

So, America blew up the pipelines? No shit, Seymour.

The Russian people know who/what they are at war with.

They knew it before the pipelines were blown.

They knew it before the coup of 2014.

It seems that the only dumbasses who don’t know who/what is making war on them are Americans.

Empty
Empty
  JoeBob
February 10, 2023 5:55 am

We naturally are going to be in the dark as to who actually pulls the strings in the swamp, but anytime something like this happens overseas, you can rest assured our elite military is to thank for it (use the word ‘thank’ appropriately), be it SEALs, Delta; groups most of us have never even heard of, but I’d say if it’s in the water, SEAL.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Empty
February 10, 2023 11:01 am

It was done by Navy divers who are not SEALs. Guys who usually do shit like welding under water and repair or construction type stuff. THIS allowed them to avoid reporting to the Gang of Eight in Congress who have to be informed of actions involving SOCOM which the SEALs are part of. No trigger pullers, no report to anyone outside the “conspirators.” Do not know if it is chargeable but a handful of self serving assholes should not be allowed to hide such actions under flimsy loophole BS.

Saxons Wrath
Saxons Wrath
  lamont cranston
February 8, 2023 4:21 pm

And the Khazarian Mafia gleefully rubs their hands together in fervent anticipation of the Russians destroying America and what’s left of America trying to retaliate against Russia.

“Oy Very, Schlomo, the treasures we will have!!”
“The Goyims doing our bidding and eliminating each other!!!”

Baby Bathwater
Baby Bathwater
  Saxons Wrath
February 8, 2023 4:31 pm

Duelling comments;

“All whites are racist”

“All Jews are greedy”
_____
“An eye for an eye leaves the whole 
world blah blah blah..” Brawndhi

AKJOHN
AKJOHN
  anon a moos
February 8, 2023 11:34 am

Yes. There are no limits to the evil this country will do under the auspices of the CIA/global banksters.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  AKJOHN
February 8, 2023 4:28 pm

And the compliance of billions

Euddolen ap Afallach
Euddolen ap Afallach
  anon a moos
February 9, 2023 1:37 pm

And then we found out the escaping gas was coming from bleeder valves opened to purge several pipe sections, and the pipes were never attacked at all.
__
Small det charges deployed nearby helped fake the “pipeline destruction”
__
The det charges, open purge valve and gas bubbles”sold the story” to the west.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Euddolen ap Afallach
February 10, 2023 11:08 am

That was no open valve. It was the largest “leak” of its kind in history, supposedly. Funny though how the treehugger frauds have been silent for the most part over the ” largest greenhouse gas release of all time.” Maybe they all get paid from the same place?

Euddolen ap Afallach
Euddolen ap Afallach
  Harrington Richardson
February 10, 2023 12:29 pm

One of the main roots of the world’s problems is the credulity of the masses in light of stories told by professional storytellers….i.e. “The News”.

How do you absolutely “know” any pipe was damaged at all?

Video is no longer proof.
Not photos.
Nor news and politicians.
___
The first casualty of war is?
___
PS, not trying to pick a fight, just broadening the view.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
February 8, 2023 10:52 am

The most plausible description of the operation that has been published. Makes 1,000 times more sense than “the Russians did it to themselves.”

Anonymous
Anonymous
  TN Patriot
February 8, 2023 12:29 pm

The Chinese did it with an underwater weather ballon.

YouplayedClue™2?
YouplayedClue™2?
  Anonymous
February 10, 2023 3:56 am

“The Chinese did it with an underwater weather ballon”

Death of Dr Frank Plummer and the Bio-weapon Corona Virus

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/924966
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50858172
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51317386

Sincerely, Professor Plum. Did Ms. Scarlett. With the Candle. Stick.

Daddy Joe
Daddy Joe
  TN Patriot
February 8, 2023 2:54 pm

TN, Yep. I’ll file this article under “nice to know some details even if we already knew the beginning and the end of the story.” Reminds me of some book reports I did in high school. I’d just read the first and last chapters and one out of the middle. That’s likely as good as we’ll get these days.

Visayas Outpost
Visayas Outpost
  TN Patriot
February 8, 2023 8:48 pm

Glad to get confirmation on what most of us have been saying since about Day 2. The detailed intricacy and coordination described is pretty impressive, and quite damning. I’m not familiar with Seymour Hersh.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Visayas Outpost
February 9, 2023 11:57 am

He’s narrating it like a movie, which without actual evidence makes me suspicious.

Rev6
Rev6
February 8, 2023 10:56 am

Hey Admin, not sure if it is me or TBP but when I get down to the end of page 1 – there is no ability to go to page 2 or previous pages. Just FYI.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Administrator
February 9, 2023 9:58 am

IKAGO

Perfect Stranger
Perfect Stranger
  Rev6
February 8, 2023 1:27 pm

That has been like this for over a day. Until it gets fixed, just type http://www.theburningplatform.com/page2 etc.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Perfect Stranger
February 8, 2023 4:29 pm

The final post at the bottom of page 1 has a highlighted #2 that goes to page 2 when clicked.

Todd Packer's Mentor
Todd Packer's Mentor
February 8, 2023 11:03 am

Thanks for posting.
Gonna need a new distraction. Maybe we’ll get that Ukrainian dirty bomb now.
When Russia retaliates, let’s hope that they go after the perps one by one, rather than making all of us suffer in the USA by taking down the power grid or something similar.

Dying Sun
Dying Sun
February 8, 2023 11:08 am

If this article is accurate, and I think it is, the U.S. government, with the help of certain European governments, has committed another covert act of terrorism. How far we have fallen. I’m afraid this will not end well. FJB

Sue
Sue
  Dying Sun
February 8, 2023 2:17 pm

I believe this report. Hersh is known for his incredible sources and solid reporting. This sabotage was an act of war against the German people, who are suffering right now because of it. German Chancellor Olaf Scholz may be finished because of this. And NATO, led by the former Norwegian Prime Minister and extreme Russia hater Jens Stoltenberg, could be in real trouble. The United States IS NATO, but without the German fig leaf, NATO is gone. That can’t happen soon enough. This country looks more and more like a third world terrorist enclave run by stone cold killers and idiots. We can only hope Russia takes care of the mess in Ukraine – which we caused – and sends Zelensky off to his $5 million mansion in Miami along with his $100 million plus in off shore bank accounts before our thuggish meddling gets us all killed.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Sue
February 8, 2023 4:30 pm

You surely meant credible sources.

Still, one must wonder how Hersh has done this for so long and remained alive and scandal-free.

the end is nigh
the end is nigh
  Anonymous
February 8, 2023 5:02 pm

Certainly
Incredibly
Accurate

Jdog
Jdog
  Anonymous
February 9, 2023 12:59 am

The deep state has been after him for a while. They have tried to smear him, but his work is always the best out there. First My Lai then Abu Ghraib now Nord Stream. Too bad we do not have 100 more like him.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Jdog
February 9, 2023 10:01 am

Larry Johnson at Sonar21.com knows Hersch personally and drew my attention to the fact that the whole operation was designed to avoid having to inform the “Gang of Eight” in Congress. Thank God we’re a “democracy”, right? (I know, a republic). Larry’s piece is short and sweet:

Sy Hersh Does It Again

Jdog
Jdog
  Iska Waran
February 10, 2023 1:19 am

Redacted did a great report on this also if you get time to watch it.

I,Robot NOT. (reference)
I,Robot NOT. (reference)
  Jdog
February 10, 2023 11:56 am

“if you get time to watch it.”

Thanks for the suggestion.

That IS the The Burning …Issue.

again
again
  Sue
February 8, 2023 5:56 pm

“This country looks more and more like a third world terrorist enclave run by stone cold killers and idiots”

It is. When will you believe it?

Perchance to Dream
Perchance to Dream
  Sue
February 9, 2023 7:07 am

” Hersh is known for his incredible sources and solid reporting. ”

Really. But was he not https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/deep-sixed over (One or More) some ruffling or another?

Perhaps a variant of the martha stewart “welcome back” Tour?

Klingon
Klingon
February 8, 2023 11:14 am

A radio host or guest ( Caravan 2 Midnight ) said recently that NS pipeline job was payback for the Colonial Pipeline hack. They offered zero proof.
I fail to see Russias motivation to do that. Was Colonial a false flag to be used as pretext ?

Todd Packer's Mentor
Todd Packer's Mentor
  Klingon
February 8, 2023 11:25 am

Taking out the pipeline is all about keeping Europe under America’s control.

Jdog
Jdog
  Todd Packer's Mentor
February 9, 2023 1:01 am

Actually, it was about putting Germany under our thumb. Once they turned off the Russian gas, they either did what we told them or their people froze and they shut down all their factories. The US will never allow Germany to be anything except their bitch.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Klingon
February 8, 2023 11:41 am

Rumor was that Colonial was a ransomware attack and that they were paid~ $10 mil or so, but – sure – it was the RUSSIANS!!! It’s always the RUSSIANS!!!

It's the SAME. Picture.
It's the SAME. Picture.
  Klingon
February 9, 2023 7:09 am

“A radio host or guest ( Caravan 2 Midnight ) said recently that NS pipeline job was payback for the Colonial Pipeline hack.”

Jdog
Jdog
  It's the SAME. Picture.
February 10, 2023 1:20 am

Watch the “Redacted” report on it.

Bob P
Bob P
February 8, 2023 11:16 am

This confirms a despicable act of war against Russia, Germany . . . all of Europe. The perpetrators, up to and including Biden, should be imprisoned for life. But who would dare to prosecute?

Todd Packer's Mentor
Todd Packer's Mentor
  Bob P
February 8, 2023 11:27 am

If, and I stress the word, if, those responsible started to disappear or die under murky circumstances, there would be too many possible suspects for the USA to go after. Our country is despised, worldwide.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Todd Packer's Mentor
February 9, 2023 11:01 am

Right, and it’s our own damn fault. We are the big bully right now but bullies have a way of finally being taken down by the very ones they have been bullying.

https://fox2now.com/news/true-crime/missouri-town-keeps-bullys-murder-a-secret-for-40-years/

That murder will never be solved. Everyone in town knew who did it and refused to talk and when they are all dead the mystery will die with them.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Bob P
February 9, 2023 10:41 am

Prosecute?

I don’t even understand the word in this context.

m
m
February 8, 2023 11:33 am

Propaganda & disinformation in a John Le Carre novel clothing.

The stretches, to twist certain info, are beyond ridiculous:
“Gazprom, a publicly traded Russian company producing enormous profits for shareholders which is dominated by oligarchs known to be in the thrall of Putin.”
Whew, that wasn’t easy to blame that one on Putin, but we did it!

“Gazprom’s profits were shared with the Russian government, and state gas and oil revenues were estimated in some years to amount to as much as 45 percent of Russia’s annual budget.”
In some years? Like 10 years ago??

By the way why did they miss the 4th pipeline?
Booming silence.

This is even more fake than the fake RAND paper executive summary from September.

This has to be considered confirmation-by-denial, that British divers did it operating from Polish shores.

m
m
  m
February 9, 2023 2:17 pm

Maybe for the US readers I should have written “a Robert Ludlum novel.”

Hersh spends like 5 paragraphs of endless babble over some Panama City, FL diver school. That is
– completely irrelevant to the main event
– feels placed to support the narrative of some other, even bigger bullshit.

It’s the equivalent to describing in utmost detail how the passport ended up in the breast pocket of one individual involved in the nine-eleven events. (In that case it was the ‘sure identification of one of the hijackers in the cockpit’ bullshit.)

In this case it’s the ‘Gang of Eight’ oversight bullshit.
What is the Gang going to do if they’re not informed? Go and sue the president??

Now focusing on the main event, why the fuck would the Norwegians take part in such an operation? They happen to be the second biggest pipeline operator in Europe, after Russia.
Did they get an ‘a shame if something happened to it’ blackmail and quietly acquiesced? Or is this fake “reporting” laying the groundwork to blow up some Norwegian pipeline and then blame the Russians for a “revenge” operation, so to finally get NATO fully involved in this ongoing WW3??
(By the way, that a Norwegian plane flew over the Baltic Sea shortly before the pipelines were blown up, is in no way supportive to Hersh’ story, as the info had been out by Monkey Werx for many months already [see here] and could have been fitted into a now made-up story.)

And why doesn’t Hersh even mention the Liz Truss tweet “It’s done”?

– – –
So the US did or ordered it, that is clear to everyone with 3 working brain cells.
But the rest of Hersh’ account smells like misdirection bullshit from 2 miles away.

And I am wondering if “evidence” will soon pop up that easily refutes a key piece of this story, and then the orchestrated MSM will together spin that as “proof” that the US had nothing at all to do with it.

m
m
  m
February 11, 2023 12:45 pm

Thanks Pepe.

m
m
  m
February 11, 2023 4:15 pm

And thanks John H.

By the way, I don’t read Taibbi’s vouching as to be regarding the article, but as to if it’s really Hersh and not some imposter who created that brand-new substack account.

Oh, and amazing detailed knowledge regarding the PIAB!

The Duke of New York
The Duke of New York
February 8, 2023 11:45 am
Herc505
Herc505
February 8, 2023 11:49 am

I think the administration or whoever is calling the shots in the shadows saw this as great oppurtunity to create the scape goat they need when they roll out the blackouts, will blame russia , saying they are retaliating for nordstream

NtroP
NtroP
February 8, 2023 12:11 pm

The Russkies must have some sort of equivalent reply in mind.
I wish I knew what it may be.

Dying Sun
Dying Sun
  NtroP
February 8, 2023 4:28 pm

The best reply is for Russia to do nothing at this time. The rest of the world is reading this article and wondering what the hell right does the U.S. have to unilaterally destroy the infrastructure of other countries that it is not at war with. Think of the Europeans who are paying through the nose for energy this winter because the U.S. destroyed the pipeline. There will be blowback from this. NATO may fracture. And more people in the world are going to despise the U.S. FJB and FBO

rhs jr
rhs jr
  Dying Sun
February 8, 2023 7:49 pm

The BRICS+ Operation Sandman will be Payback, which began 2/3/2023: they are not going to accept US dollars for their products any more, only BRICS+ currencies and PMs. US companies will have to buy Rubles, Yuan, Pesos, Rupees, etc.

Jdog
Jdog
  NtroP
February 9, 2023 1:03 am

They will go after Norway for sure. So far as the US, they may just keep building up along with China and wait for the big one.

Jdog
Jdog
February 8, 2023 12:16 pm

The US military is a terrorist organization, and anyone who volunteers to join it is a criminal.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Jdog
February 8, 2023 12:57 pm

Mostly just dumb kids and nonwhites

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Anonymous
February 8, 2023 1:16 pm

Trannies and queers, to boot.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  Anonymous
February 8, 2023 10:20 pm

“Mostly just dumb kids and nonwhites”
which is why if given the order to fire on us citizens they will do so,unlike in the past —

Anonymous
Anonymous
  TampaRed
February 9, 2023 12:41 am

They always did. Nothing new.

Remember? Kent State?
Remember? Kent State?
  Anonymous
February 9, 2023 8:21 am

“They always did. Nothing new.”

https://allthatsinteresting.com/kent-state-massacre

Tr4head
Tr4head
  Jdog
February 9, 2023 9:20 pm

The US became the defacto #1 Terror organization in the world when Hussein (not a Muslim) Obama gave Iran, the #1 director of world terror, Billions in unmarked cash without Congressional approval. Or impeachment.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
February 8, 2023 12:44 pm

It kinda sounds like “peak oil” was a huge lie from the start. Putin saw multiple advantages to opening the taps and the collective West didn’t like their lie being exposed. After all, there’s profit to be had in scarcity…real OR imagined.

Now observe as Putin destroys the Imperial Government by changing a one to a zero.

Goodbye, Petrodollar!

rhs jr
rhs jr
  The Central Scrutinizer
February 8, 2023 7:52 pm

Please explain the “one to a zero” to a retarded old fart that missed that fine point; but I do understand “goodbye petrodollar”.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  rhs jr
February 9, 2023 8:36 am

The value of the US Dollar is going to go from being worth one of itself to being worth zero of itself.

More predictive programming courtesy of Rick & Morty. Bein’ an old fart (I don’t currently consider you a retard) entitles you to a pass on not knowing that, so we’re good here!

Visayas Outpost
Visayas Outpost
  The Central Scrutinizer
February 8, 2023 8:52 pm

Although it is trite to always say “follow the money”, here it is proven true yet again. The one pipeline they would leave would go through Ukraine. More and more it looks like Dollar Hegemony is the THE driving force behind all of the US’s bewildering foreign policy machinations.

Anonymous
Anonymous
February 8, 2023 1:06 pm

I don’t pretend to know anything about what happened, but the whole article is basically ‘the source’ and writing a story as if it is proven fact.

rhs jr
rhs jr
  Anonymous
February 8, 2023 8:03 pm

Obviously the source is really really high up and I suppose a White Hat in our Intelligence Service. This calls for immediate congressional hearings that make J6 look like Howdy Doody Time. FJB, heads of Departments, etc, must go to prison for decades. We owe Russia & Europe billions in damages. What did K.H. know?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  rhs jr
February 8, 2023 10:37 pm

k.h.?

Bluto
Bluto
  Anonymous
February 9, 2023 3:43 am

HK?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
February 9, 2023 10:44 am

vp

Que 'Q' KaChoo
Que 'Q' KaChoo
  rhs jr
February 10, 2023 4:02 am

“Obviously the source is really really high up and I suppose a White Hat in our Intelligence Service”

Anonymous
Anonymous
February 8, 2023 1:26 pm

Keep poking the Russian Bear and the ChiComs you ignorant Pathetic Parasitic DC ASSHOLES .
Once again blithering idiots are in control of US foreign policies and covert military actions !
Proving beyond all doubt if GOD were to give the United States an enema Washington DC is where he would stick the hose !
Obviously the asshole of our nation filled with impacted highly paid piles of shit !

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
February 9, 2023 10:52 am

When it comes to TPTB, I never attribute to incompetence what can adequately be explained by malice. If the trend of circumstances is toward the destruction of western economies and governing structures, you can bet it was planned that way.
The controlled demolition of WESTERN economies, financial structures, governments, cultures (oops, too late), militaries, populations, borders, and nations as a whole.

Solve et coagula.

Anonymous
Anonymous
February 8, 2023 1:55 pm

Hey at least we have niggers who can throw a ball though a hoop

buknp
buknp
  Anonymous
February 9, 2023 4:40 am

March Madness be coming up bro. lol

ASIG
ASIG
February 8, 2023 1:55 pm

The question is no longer IF but when and how Russia will respond.

I would put high on the list of probable targets, the US power grid, and I doubt it would be done with a nuclear generated EMP. It would more likely be done with teams on the ground. Oh did anyone notice our borders are wide open.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  ASIG
February 8, 2023 3:47 pm

Why would they do that? That would be either a Pearl Harbor moment or would threaten the control of ZOG. That’s why all these piddling attacks and fake plots are being trotted out.

ASIG
ASIG
  Anonymous
February 8, 2023 4:31 pm

Because it can be done without anyone knowing who did it.

So tell me who took out the Metcalf transmission substation in Coyote in 2013 – Yeah they still don’t know.

So if it happens and no one knows who did it, what then?

rhs jr
rhs jr
  ASIG
February 8, 2023 8:18 pm

The same people taking out Russian gas pipe lines, hundreds of food factory and fuel refinery fires, western forrest fires, behind the CV-19 Genocide Shots and fatal hospital practices, the Chem Spraying, the GMO Infertility products, the J6 Show Trials, The Twin Towers, The JFK murder, Global Warming Green Stupidity, the CBDC & FedCoins, the Nightly Propaganda and Hollywood, Affirmative Action and Diversity Racist Discrimination, open borders and vote fraud, etc.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  ASIG
February 9, 2023 12:58 am

Which accomplished precisely what? Who does it is immaterial. See 9/11.

I’m not arguing about what can be done, but why it would be done. Completely wreck a major western nation and you risk a threat to the world order.

rhs jr
rhs jr
  Anonymous
February 9, 2023 1:21 pm

We would be saving ourselves, our posterity and the world; the present administration is equivalent to Hitler and the Nazis who started WWll. Besides, with the illegal NATO expansions, the 2014 Ukraine take over, the 2021 Ukraine Incited War, the 2020/2022 Vote Fraud Coup, the 2020 Covid Genocide, the 2021 Nord Stream Pipeline Bombing, the food & fuel Sabotage fires, the J6 Show Trials, etc, Justice demands it.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  rhs jr
February 9, 2023 1:55 pm

Who is this we? He was talking about Russia doing it. That’s a lot of wishful thinking.

Less fantastic than imagining saving the world from the ‘evil nazis.’

rhs jr
rhs jr
  Anonymous
February 9, 2023 8:21 pm

The only conservative we with legal power now is the House and the SCOTUS; We The People could theoretically cause enough ruckus to get them to take action. It happened 250 years ago.

Confused in Peoria
Confused in Peoria
  Administrator
February 9, 2023 3:48 am

Which one looks more like a king?

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Confused in Peoria
February 9, 2023 8:39 am

I’m seeing a pederast and a flaming fag. The “king” must be out of frame

Anonymous
Anonymous
February 8, 2023 3:29 pm

.

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
February 8, 2023 3:30 pm

I’m going to go out on a limb and guess this is probably bad.

j.p. Labrie
j.p. Labrie
February 8, 2023 4:52 pm

When the author stated “it was biden’s decision ” he does not even know when he shit his pants. WTF !!

ASIG
ASIG
February 8, 2023 4:52 pm

I’m convince that the west is going to continue to ratchet up the provocations in order to get Russia to make a substantial response in which case it will give the West the excuse to go ALL OUT, However I have no doubt that Putin knows this and realizes his only options at this point is to Either Surrender, let Russia fall or Russia has to go ALL OUT first.

Neither side is going to back down.

Not looking good.

TXsodbuster
TXsodbuster
  ASIG
February 8, 2023 5:09 pm

America’s fate has already been decided, why they moved most of our manufacturing overseas. Unfortunate for us, the righteous are sometimes swept away with the wicked.

TLate
TLate
February 8, 2023 5:17 pm

Of course the US did it that should be obvious to anyone who knows anything about how involved this type of operation is. It is well documented in this outstanding article. As I have stated previously once Russian civilians, inside Russia, (is that redundant?) are killed with US/NATO weapons… Stand by for heavy rolls!

rhs jr
rhs jr
  TLate
February 8, 2023 8:25 pm

Tolls, fines, prices, losses?

falconflight
falconflight
February 8, 2023 7:54 pm

(((Hersh))) nuff said. Can’t cheery pick Khazars.

Visayas Outpost
Visayas Outpost
February 8, 2023 8:55 pm

Fuck all that, we’ve got to get on with these
{Go on}
Got to compete with the wily Japanese
(Got to get on, got to get on)
{Come here, come out and kill me!}
No need to worry about the Vietnamese
{Ha, ha, ha}
Got to bring the Russian bear to its knees
(Got to get on)
Well, maybe not the Russian bear
Maybe the Swedes
We showed Argentina
Now let’s go and show these
(Got to get on, got to get on)
Makes feel tough
And wouldn’t Maggie be pleased?

-Not Now John (Pink Floyd)

Colorado Artist
Colorado Artist
February 8, 2023 9:24 pm

First of all, who didn’t know Biden did this?
Second of all, will any fucking feckless sane pol in DC do anything about this criminality?

Nope.

rhs jr
rhs jr
  Colorado Artist
February 9, 2023 8:27 pm

Will the BRICS+ do nothing about this? Within weeks, they could bump Sandman up to a General Sanction against US like a 1972 OPEC Embargo of Oil but instead into an embargo of everything; or they could take this and a dozen other NeoCon crimes and insults as a Casus Belli.

Two if by sea.
Two if by sea.
February 9, 2023 12:34 am

Great story. Too good, actually.
I’m still not convinced.

World War Zero
World War Zero
  Two if by sea.
February 9, 2023 11:40 pm

IKR. If Hersh’s reporting was true, then Republicans would be RIGHT NOW drawing up articles of impeachment for Biden approving/orchestrating a terror attack by non-uniformed personnel to destroy Europe’s energy security. Lol. JK 😀

Instead, they will let anybody who talked to Hersh be liquidated by Joint Task Force Zelly.

…now if Trump had ordered this NS mafia hit. Oh, bloody hell, most of Congress would be helping Schiff bang together a gallows live on CNN.

morongobill
morongobill
  World War Zero
February 10, 2023 11:26 am

Did you forget Ted Cruz’s glee when Nuland told him in a committee hearing that the pipeline now was a pile of jumbled metal? The majority of Congress supports the pipeline destruction.

Jdog
Jdog
February 9, 2023 12:51 am

So you have people all over Europe who have had their lives destroyed from the sudden spike in energy caused by these actions, and now they find out that their own governments were complicit in this plan…. Sounds like time for pitch forks and ropes to me…..
In the US, the question is what do we do about Biden, Blinken, and Nuland lying right to our faces about the US not being involved and blaming it on Russia. Of course about half the Congress on both sides of the isle were in this boat with them. Our entire government are criminals and enemies of the people.

Pink Coyote
Pink Coyote
  Jdog
February 9, 2023 3:56 am

Riddle me this: If Europe is paying much more for nat gas and America is paying much more for nat gas, who is making out like a bandit?

SAME as it EVER was
SAME as it EVER was
  Pink Coyote
February 9, 2023 8:50 am

“who is making out like a bandit?”

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Jdog
February 9, 2023 10:56 am

The people are enemies of the people.

IOW, we’re fucked.

Joe
Joe
February 9, 2023 8:02 am

China is rapidly building a pipeline to Russia. The US is in deep economic trouble and the world is becoming indifferent to the value of the dollar. The holdup is that the US GDP is 25% of the world GDP. IOW…to take down the USA would mean further worldwide economic calamity. I have no doubt that the US took out Nord. The real test is when the fight is brought to the continental US.

Empty
Empty
February 9, 2023 10:26 am

If ‘we’ truly did this, it’s simply got SEAL written all over it. It’s not likely that this pipeline was unguarded and you’d likely use covert approach to take it out.

Maybe Joe did it himself. Keep your ears propped open, because he’s likely to claim it.

m
m
  Empty
February 9, 2023 2:37 pm

Tell us who guarded it.
Then tell us those guards’ relationship to the US, genius.

Empty
Empty
  m
February 10, 2023 5:58 am

Well, the guards, guarded it. C’mon man. 😎

Anonymous
Anonymous
February 9, 2023 12:26 pm

Did anyone ever doubt it? Of course, the German will Sergeant Schulz it and see nothing. I think they have been wearing those little leather shorts of theirs a bit too tight for a while, and can’t stand up to the U.S.

m
m
February 9, 2023 12:33 pm

“Russia’s nuclear doctrine is under revision in light of these aggressive plans being aired in the United States, so that Russia is headed towards a policy of ‘preventive’ tactical nuclear strikes, similar to what the United States has. Moreover, if Ukraine targets Crimea and heartland Russia, then Russia will respond according to plans now being laid down. These plans foresee counter strikes against U.S military installations in Europe and in the Continental United States using hypersonic missiles.

So here we are. The Russians are stripping away the fiction of a proxy war and revealing the co-belligerent status of the US and its NATO allies in preparation for a kinetic war with NATO.”

The Coming Existential Threat: Do We Act in Common OR Is It Going To Be Every Man for Himself?

Ginger
Ginger
  m
February 9, 2023 4:58 pm

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/biden-says-putin-has-already-lost-ukraine/ar-AA17hXVd?ocid=U142DHP&li=BBnb7Kz

Just last night.

Joe biden says(from the article)
“He thought that if he invaded Ukraine, first of all, he’d get a welcome by every Russian speaker, they’d say, ‘come on in,’” the president said. “And secondly, he thought what would happen is that NATO would collapse. NATO would not do anything. They’d be afraid to act. Then he thought anyway, go down the line. None of that’s happening.”

rhs jr
rhs jr
  Ginger
February 9, 2023 8:52 pm

FJB the Proverbial Village Idiot was speaking for Putin. I think FJB is wrong, and Russian speaking Ukrainians welcomed the Russians. I think the UNazis, NATO and FJB are losing badly (for basically the same reasons the Confederacy lost), and nobody will be able to dispute that fact in a few months without being laughed out of the building. Now that The Nord Stream Pipeline Sabotage has been placed squarely on FJB and the USA, FJB should become the Orange Man in chains within a couple months, Mr Putin will have rid the world of UNazis, and an honest peace resolution can be reached with Russia, our new purged US State & War Departments, and all the other relevant National Governments .

Anonymous
Anonymous
  m
February 10, 2023 11:27 am

A really good article from Doctorow.

WilliamtheResolute
WilliamtheResolute
February 9, 2023 11:21 pm

Just sent this email to both my Senators:

What the hell is going on, we have rogue agents of the U.S. government comitting acts of war against Russia! Jake Sullivan, Tony Blinken, and Victoria Nuland should not be running American foreign policy in light of their complicity in bombing the Nord Stream Pipeline. It seems painfully obvious that the Biden Administration is out of control and measures need to be taken to stop the insanity of trying to provoke Russia into a war. This is madness!

m
m
  WilliamtheResolute
February 10, 2023 4:30 am

+1
Just for the fun of it, tell us what reply you get, if any. And maybe which state, if you’re OK divulging that info.

Maxda
Maxda
February 10, 2023 8:37 am

So it’s okay to commit acts of war and sabotage on other countries were are supposedly at peace with? What a horrifying descent into war and chaos we are witnessing.

Vektor
Vektor
February 10, 2023 9:04 am

Everyone already knew who was responsible. This just adds more details.

Where’s the consequences or the outrage? Maybe it’s not being covered. I would at least expect Germany to have something to say.

At this point, the neocons should just come out and admit it. “Yea…we did it. Whatcha gonna do about it?”

beau
beau
February 10, 2023 1:28 pm

‘going around looking for monsters to destroy’ is not what we should be about. that we are about that is why we have become what we have become. so be it. division is coming.

bucknp
bucknp
  beau
February 18, 2023 11:20 am

why we have become what we have become

Simple. The fall of man. Man became when Adam took the bite and when Cain killed Able. I know that sounds like a fairy tale to some. What other explanation?