First, They Lied About the Range . . .

Guest Post by Eric Peters

There is a creepy consanguinity between the marketing and selling of the “masks” and then “vaccines” – and the marketing and selling of electric vehicles. It makes you wonder whether there might be a relationship . . .

They arose as the “solution” to supposedly dire problems that – we were told – required immediate, right now amelioration. No time to wait and see – or even think before we’re obliged to act. The rush-rush tactics of the time-share selling fraudster, in other words. The “virus” is going to kill tens of millions – maybe more! – unless everyone “masks,” right now (and forever more). Stays home – and stays away from others. The “climate” is going to “change” – unless we change, overnight, to driving electric cars.

And never mind whether they actually “work,” either.

Just as it was with “masks” – and then the “vaccines” – all the accruing evidence that they don’t was suppressed and pilloried. We were told half-truths and outright lies to get us to “mask” – and then to take the drugs that didn’t confer immunity on anyone, either. But did confer myocarditis – and god-only-knows-what-else – on many who were tricked into taking them.

Just the same with electric cars.

People were not told that their touted ranges were frequently much less-than-advertised and could (and do) plummet by 50 percent or more in cold weather. Or – in the case of electric trucks – when used to do the things trucks are expected to do, such as pull a trailer. Instead they were only told – as in the case of Ford’s F-150 Lightning electric truck – that it could pull a 10,000 pound trailer. Which is true. Just not for long.

Or rather, far.

Left out was the relevant fact that if they attempted to actually pull a trailer, they’d be stopping for a lengthy recharge every 80 miles or so. (Detailed truth about this here.)

They were also told they could recharge at home – which is also true. As far as it goes.

But they were not told how very long that takes. Instead, they were led to believe they could get going again in only 30-45 minutes or so. But that is only possible by visiting so-called “fast” chargers, which are not at home. And they were not told that using these “fast” chargers” regularly is hard on the battery and for that reason is likely to decrease the battery’s useful service life – an extremely relevant thing since not using the “fast” charger greatly time-limits one’s mobility. It takes at least several hours – at home – to instill even a partial charge in an electric car, using a 240V stove/dryer-type outlet that most homes do not have wired up in the garage – and so close enough to plug the EV into them – necessitating that the homeowner pay to have an electrician install the outlet where it is close enough.

Even if it is installed, it still takes 9-11 hours to fully recharge an EV at home – so as to avoid having to rely on the “fast” chargers that can damage/shorten the service life of the EV’s most expensive component – its battery.

Catch meet 22.

People were also told the cost of EVs would go down as more EVs were made – and “technology” improved. In fact, the cost of EVs has increased – hugely – because it costs more rather than less to make EVs, which require a huge quantity of hard-to-get and expensive to get materials such as lithium and cobalt.

Now it comes out that it doesn’t cost less to drive an EV, either. Remember that one? No more being gouged by the evil oil companies! Nearly free to drive an EV. Well, to riff on the trademark saying of Star Trek: Next Generation’s Captain, Jean Luc Picard:

Make it not so.

The cost of electricity has risen to parity with the cost of gas, such that it now costs about the same to put the equivalent power into an EV needed to drive the EV 100 miles as it does to put enough gas into a non-EV to travel the same distance: $11.29 for the latter and $11.60 for the former. And the former is what it costs to charge the EV at home – where the cost of the hours’-long wait is not included. It costs an average of $14.40 to instill the same 100 miles’ worth of range at a so-called “fast” charger, costing the EV owner more than it costs someone who just pours three or four gallons of gas into his non-EV to drive the same 100 miles.

And the cost of the harm done to the battery’s longevity by regularly “fast” charging it  isn’t factored into the equation.

People who bought EVs must be feeling a lot like the people who bought the “vaccines.”

In both cases, as it were, everything people were told was either a lie or a partial lie. Not an iota of just-the-truth.

Electric cars cost more to buy, cost more time – and cost more money to drive. Even the truth that they are very quick is a half-truth in that if you make use of that quickness, you will soon not be not going, at all.

Probably the next truth to drop will be the revelation that EVs aren’t “zero emissions,” after all. As people have been told they are. Wait until they are told the truth about the emitting that happens as a result of all the mining necessary to get the raw materials used to make EVs. And – hoo-boy! – the emitting that occurs at the power plants that generate the massive amounts of high-voltage electricity EVs “burn.”

Apparently, only about 15 percent of the public is getting “boosted” – the rest having gotten wise to the truth about the “vaccines.” It is likely something congruent will manifest as more and more people learn the truth they’ve been lied to about EVs.

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kfg
kfg
February 14, 2023 7:54 pm

I love electric motors. It’s batteries and 500 mile long extension cords I can’t stand.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  kfg
February 14, 2023 8:04 pm

hater

/s

Ken31
Ken31
  kfg
February 14, 2023 8:49 pm

I don’t think I would enjoy woodworking without the electric motor.

YourAverageJoe
YourAverageJoe
  Ken31
February 14, 2023 9:39 pm

Neither would I.
The chugging of that Briggs sideshaft would make me bonkers until I passed out from the carbon monoxide.

fujigm
fujigm
  YourAverageJoe
February 14, 2023 10:10 pm

Try logging some timber with an electric chainsaw.
Bet your joy factor would be a bit deflated.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  fujigm
February 15, 2023 11:58 am

It can be done, as long as you have a tractor engine running a PTO 3-phase generator and an 4 gauge 3-phase extension cord between the generator’s outlet cluster and the 3-phase motor on the saw.

Very quiet when compared to the gasoline engine powered saw. But great care must be taken to keep the extension cord, generator, and tractor away from the saw blade and location of where the tree will fall.

grace country pastor
grace country pastor
  fujigm
February 15, 2023 12:02 pm

Bought an 80v. Greenworks chainsaw and two batteries. Can go as long as I can which, admittedly, is not as long as it used to be. All day versus a couple hours. Still, I love the thing! Very quiet and discrete as well.

anon a moos
anon a moos
  grace country pastor
February 15, 2023 12:10 pm

Good for home owners needing a small saw for yard work and cutting 4inch wood for firewood. But not for those that need to make a living with their saws.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  YourAverageJoe
February 15, 2023 6:27 am

Thing have their use and place. We want to use not what is just usable, but what is best for the particular job and given environment.
Electric golf carts good.
Electric semis not so good.

Amb. Cornholio
Amb. Cornholio
  Ken31
February 14, 2023 11:43 pm

Belt and lineshaft system, old school.

anon a moos
anon a moos
  Amb. Cornholio
February 15, 2023 9:39 am

oooOOOoo spinny things with no guards.

I laugh when I see these, remembering, seeing the remnants of this in my uncles shop on the prairies. Any workers comp asswipe seeing these running today would have a fainting spell. Probably get PTS and be off work for months recovering.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Amb. Cornholio
February 15, 2023 11:55 am

As an added benefit, such a setup has a propensity to quickly eliminate the terminally stupid. This is why stupid people had such a short life expectancy 100+ years ago.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  kfg
February 15, 2023 6:24 am

An electric truck for towing is about the dumbest thing I can imagine, and at a hefty price.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
February 15, 2023 12:01 pm

It was tried in Colorado on I-25. A quick study in how fast a battery can be drained. The test didn’t even make it to the mid-way point of the trip. Meanwhile, the gasoline engine truck with the engine with the worst available fuel economy mated to the smallest fuel tank still had more than enough fuel to make it back to the starting point.

gadsden flag
gadsden flag
February 14, 2023 7:55 pm

you are not intended to drive EVs. they will be banned.
once the internal combustion engines are banned, the EVs will be subject to environmental concerns relative to system imposed energy source limitations and battery materials issues.
berate and twitch.

DFJ150
DFJ150
  gadsden flag
February 15, 2023 10:00 am

All part of the globalist plan to make us non-mobile. Phase out ICE, place a government controlled kill-switch into the few that will continue to be sold, con everyone into buying “green” electric vehicles, then shut off the grid (or let it collapse) so we have expensive paper weights in our driveways (don’t park them in the garage, as they will explode and burn your house down). This is the back-door route to “15 minute cities”. Meanwhile, the elite hypocrites continue to fly around the world in their private jets, dine on wagyu beef and caviar, drink the finest cognac, and lecture us “useless eaters” on how they are virtuously saving the planet. If the Air Force really wants to put those Sidewinder and Hellfire missiles to good use, they could target select “mysterious” Grumman and Gulfstream UFO’s violating our airspace in the 40,000 to 45,000 foot altitude range.

Heywood Jablomi
Heywood Jablomi
February 14, 2023 7:58 pm

Here in the Empire of Lies profit$ justify every slimy action.

Ken31
Ken31
  Heywood Jablomi
February 14, 2023 8:52 pm

It has been a slippery slope I have been observing almost all of America participate in since I was a child.

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Heywood Jablomi
February 15, 2023 7:42 am

And campaign contribution$ create the rules that require the slimy actions.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
February 14, 2023 8:13 pm

I just watched an Alexander Mercouris video on YouTube. As always happens, YouTube immediately prompts a pro-GAE narrative right after you watch anything that’s anti-GAE. This time it was from CNN. It was General Milley bullshitting about how bad Russia is losing. CNN supposedly has 17.5 mil subscribers on YouTube. The comments were about 200:1 that “Russia is evil…”.

The point is that there are a LOT of dumb fuckers out there. A LOT. So, people will buy EV’s – and vote for politicians who promise fast charging stations. Hopefully they’ll all run out of power along the highway and freeze to death when it’s -5F. Or die from heat in the desert after their AC drains the battery.

fujigm
fujigm
  Iska Waran
February 14, 2023 10:11 pm

What Iska said.
Only more of it…

bjohn
bjohn
  Iska Waran
February 15, 2023 12:27 am

Why are saintly Russians killing wicked Ukrainian citizens in Ukraine? And what about Righteous Russian missiles and drones killing nasty Ukrainian civilians?

The truth is Russia invaded its neighboring country Ukraine.

This is unjust.

If you cannot see that truth, then you are either 1) a fool or 2) wicked or 3) both.

Uturn
Uturn
  bjohn
February 15, 2023 12:49 am

You are truly a dumb fuck.

John Q.
John Q.
  Uturn
February 15, 2023 5:45 am

He sounds like the Secretary of State.

fujigm
fujigm
  bjohn
February 15, 2023 12:56 am

I downvote in your general direction.
I see my truth, not your stupid insolence…

eraser
eraser
  fujigm
February 15, 2023 5:08 am

There is no “my truth” testa di cazzo, just the truth. The truth isn’t something you believe in, it just is. You keep carrying water Nancy, maybe the crocodile will eat you last.

Perfect Stranger
Perfect Stranger
  bjohn
February 15, 2023 7:53 am

I’m backing Russia.

aka.attrition
aka.attrition
  bjohn
February 15, 2023 10:48 am

CNN much?

Anthony Aaron
Anthony Aaron
  bjohn
February 15, 2023 7:10 pm

So … did you miss the headlines where the ZOG here in the US ordered US to change the legitimately elected leadership of Ukraine in 2014?

And did you miss all of the news for the 8 years after that where Ukraine was bombing the eastern areas of Ukraine — which are Russian areas?

Try to keep up with the news … it might help …

Dangerous Variant
Dangerous Variant
  Iska Waran
February 15, 2023 9:25 am

All one has to do is look at any portion of legacy infrastructure to see that the failure is baked-in. Roads are a mess. Bridges are decades overdue in maintenance. Electrical grids are already overworked and under invested and basic components like transformers have procurement times that lag in months with no signs of restoring domestic production to accommodate demand, etc.

The magical thinking of these EV/Green energy requires a massive cogdis to the fact that they are all dependent upon an underlying system and set of operating conditions that are already in a failing state.

The silo effect of the various vapor-huffers is increasing. The problem is the system is still so bloated with debt and gibs that reality is kept at bay.

For now. But for a lot of us reality is something we must attend with every day.

When these same people were screaming to shut down the world because “covid”, the rational response would have been to lock them in a padded cell.

Instead, winners and losers were picked. Fiat was rained down on certain crops. Others were forced to rot and go fallow.

These people already cost me dearly. So the conspicuous nature of their current thing signaling is a feature. I see a Tesla, a mask, a blue and yellow, etc. and I know these people are fleeing their own humanity and thus have nothing but ruin in their hearts. And ruin is exactly where that intersectionality they love will deliver them into the hands of reality.

YourAverageJoe
YourAverageJoe
February 14, 2023 8:27 pm

“Consanguinity” is not a term I’ve heard since I memorized the Declaration of Independence….
Anyway, I always had doubts about the viability of electric propulsion being practical for all the reasons being revealed now.

When an electric aircraft can cross an ocean without crashing, I’ll eat my hat.
Batteries can store only so much….
In my building, there are UPS systems that support data centers that can only support the equipment so long, maybe two hours tops, unless some load is shed.
Moving a car at 70 mph, with the air conditioner or heater on, is a tremendous load, and I admit the performance of EV’s far exceeded my expectations, but it will never work as well as an ICE powered vehicle.
God help those stuck on a Freeway, trying to evacuate from a hurricane or a Russian nuke blast…or EMP.

fujigm
fujigm
  YourAverageJoe
February 14, 2023 10:14 pm

Joe, break out the ketchup, that hat isn’t getting any fresher!

https://nypost.com/2016/04/24/solar-powered-plane-crosses-the-pacific-ocean/

OK, not like it was hauling 197 passengers…

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  YourAverageJoe
February 14, 2023 10:27 pm

Consanguinity – it’s not just for muslims anymore.

lamont cranston
lamont cranston
February 14, 2023 8:31 pm

From “Rancho Deluxe”, “All large scale crime is ALWAYS an inside job.”

– Slim Pickens to Harry Dean Stanton, who got “nabbed”.

James
James
February 14, 2023 8:42 pm

On the down side they both have drinking problems like my ex-fiancee Julie:

On the upside they can each crush about a dozen ez’s per gallon!

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The bio battery ever comes to market well…….,then am interested.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  James
February 14, 2023 10:51 pm

is that the truck you were checking out a few months ago ?
it looks good —

James
James
  TampaRed
February 15, 2023 10:44 am

Yep,not auction sale perfect but very nice.Tis running some wide rubber and decided to go with a pro for fender flares,he is a great body guy and will make it look like they were always part of the truck.

Motor is a 351(carbed of course!)/C-6 tranny/only 1/2 ton axles but the front has been converted to a solid front via fab tech kit/manual locking warns ect.The body/frame clean and solid/interior very nice.

She has a few small issues am correcting and will be on the road this coming March.

Will put up some pics when she is all done.

GDP, usually gruntled
GDP, usually gruntled
  James
February 15, 2023 10:59 am

Sweet. Want to see the finished product.

James
James
  GDP, usually gruntled
February 15, 2023 12:01 pm

Thanx,will do a photo shoot when on road.

I am a kidult,never really grew up!

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Thrakatuluk
Thrakatuluk
February 14, 2023 8:54 pm

Why would you need any car in a 15 minute city? It’s all and always been about control.

PilotDoc
PilotDoc
February 14, 2023 8:59 pm

Luxury electric sports cars have incredible performance and are a blast to drive. Practical for anything else?….NOPE.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  PilotDoc
February 14, 2023 10:33 pm

They’re good for sneaking up on people who are texting while walking through a crosswalk. Then you honk and scare the shit out of them. I don’t have an EV (and don’t plan on ever having one), but if I had one, that’s what I would do.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  PilotDoc
February 15, 2023 12:13 pm

But once an electric souped up golf cart goes over 80 mph, it loses all the advantages it has and is slowly overtaken by an old F150 with an old Ford inline 6 of the 300 cubic inch size. Why? If the gearbox on the F150 is modified by adding a few more gears, it can just keep on accelerating as the engine produced maximum torque at maximum speed. But the electric motor in the souped up golf cart has no room for adding more gears, plus the motor runs out of torque the faster it spins.

The other problem is electric souped up golf carts can’t function unless the sun is shining and the temperature is over 40F. Around here, they get put away in November and are not seen until April. Sort of like the road construction orange barrels get put away in the storage sheds as soon as the snowplow and salt spreader rigs are removed from the storage sheds in November and stay removed until April.

Russ Gates
Russ Gates
February 14, 2023 10:04 pm

Many people were amazed during a large hurricane a few years back where thousands upon thousands of cars were on the Florida highways and Elon performed a “humane” miracle by broadcasting a simple command that allowed his cars to extend their range by dipping into deeper discharge so his cars did not get stranded on the highway. That tactic is detrimental to battery life, just like the fast chargers mentioned by Eric. In fact, every secondary battery technology (ie, rechargable batteries) has a sweet spot for both charge and discharge regimes-go outside the sweet spot and the battery suffers. Every rechargable battery ever sold is a basket of compromises-and the battery sellers almost never inform the buyer of what compromises have been made. Caveat emptor.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Russ Gates
February 15, 2023 12:16 pm

Which means the reverse is also true. All the big failure socialist government needs to do is hack in and send out a command to shut down every one of those electric golf carts whenever the socialist elite dictators feel like it.

No thanks. I will stick with my 20 year old pickup truck that still uses 1982 technology.

Steve Z.
Steve Z.
  Russ Gates
February 16, 2023 10:21 am

Fast charging can decrease battery life close to 50% vs slow charge.
I wonder why they never bother to tell you that? -s-

Lurker
Lurker
February 14, 2023 10:40 pm

Only way I’d go for an electric car is if it had a hydrogen fuel cell instead of a battery. That or maybe with a diesel engine recharging the batteries constantly, like a locomotive.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Lurker
February 15, 2023 12:26 pm

A small diesel engine running an alternator is proven, as the railroads in North America have proven for over 80 years. They are notorious for being able to operate for years under heavy loads and high stress without failure.

Contrast that to the Eurotrash locomotives that can’t even budge a typical North American freight train. The last time the Europeans tried to market a locomotive in North America, the Europeans gained lasting fame for never being able to complete a single trip without the diesel engine blowing up or falling out and/or the transmission suffering massive catastrophic failure. The railroad that tested the Eurotrash, Southern Pacific, would send along enough American-made locomotive power to ensure the train would still make the trip after the Eurotrash tossed its engine and/or transmission up through the hood and over the side of the mountain. Meanwhile, the Eurotrash builders couldn’t figure out why this was happening because it never happens in Europe. So a few came over and found out what a real train looks like as opposed to the Lionel trains they use.

Since then, if any foreign country’s railroad was real locomotives for real-world use and abuse, they come here to get what they need. If they need Lionel trains for passenger service, they go to Europe. Just like Amcrash did when it decided to get some new Lionel locomotives for its tiny passenger trains.

General
General
February 14, 2023 11:55 pm

I have had an EV for five years now. They have their good and bad points. Peter is such a killjoy and only harps on the negatives.

Good:. I charge at home without issue, stupid fast acceleration, no oil changes, transmission fluid changes, or worrying about coolant levels or overheating.

Bad: Expensive. Range too short. Fine for city driving, but traveling out of state is a pain in the ass. Although my car is 8 years old and has lost about 20% of max range.

m
m
  General
February 15, 2023 2:43 am

Why did you skip over telling us how many miles driven?

Hal
Hal
  m
February 15, 2023 5:49 am

or whether you live in San Diego or Bangor? or how well or not cabin climate is maintained?

anon a moos
anon a moos
  General
February 15, 2023 9:42 am

Less miles driven at night and in winter I beg. What an awesome trade off. Plus the extra smug factor and pats on the back for being evo friendly

Anonymous
Anonymous
  General
February 15, 2023 12:31 pm

Just wait until the $40,000 expense happens when the battery quits without warning because those batteries will do that. Just like that, your golf cart becomes worthless.

As opposed to my 20 year old pickup truck, which still has some value, in spite of the winter salt. Always starts. Always runs. Neighbors can’t figure out why it starts in cold weather while they have to call AAA because my jumper cables won’t reach that far into their heated garages. They don’t know how to use a battery charger and refuse to learn how.

brian
brian
  Anonymous
February 15, 2023 12:37 pm

Neighbours car has been in the mechanics yard for three months going on four now. Can’t get the electronic part he needs. Sold my then newer PU before the scamdemic and bought an older 95 PU. Best investment, vehicle wise, I’ve made in a long time.

Anonymous
Anonymous
February 15, 2023 12:26 am

What sort of resale value do ev cars have after the batteries have lost range capabilities after so long a time?

TN Patriot
TN Patriot
  Anonymous
February 15, 2023 7:48 am

About $.06/# for the metal and you still have to do something with the batteries.

Visayas Outpost
Visayas Outpost
February 15, 2023 1:01 am

If it is not plain by now, ANYTHING that enables self-determination is on the list to be banned. Growing food, pumping gas, owning land, raising chickens, digging a well. It is surprising they still allow HAM radio.

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
February 15, 2023 8:17 am

And in those days, men will come saying “Messiah is in the desert!, or Messiah is in the mountains! Do not believe them and do not follow them.”

The Word of GOD is your Guide through the minefield of Life.

May He light your paths and make them straight unto Glory.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  The Central Scrutinizer
February 15, 2023 12:33 pm

What does any of that have to do with electric vehicle failures? There was no electric anything 1500 years ago.

anon a moos
anon a moos
February 15, 2023 9:43 am

Everything about the evo push is always a lie of omission. They never tell you the full truth, only what will sell you their BS