They are universally shocked at the racist Russophobia, from Europe especially. “I thought they were our friends/partners!” is a common complaint.
They don’t understand why Europe destroyed its own economy with the sanctions. (There’s quite a bit of schadenfreude over that.)
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— Gonzalo Lira (@GonzaloLira1968) February 16, 2023
Hollande and Merkel have publicly bragged about how the Minsk agreements were entered into to buy time to arm Kiev.
This has had a huge impact on them.
So they won’t accept any negotiations or ceasefire. They all think Russia would be played for fools again by the West.
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— Gonzalo Lira (@GonzaloLira1968) February 16, 2023
They all view this conflict as a Russia vs. NATO war. And they all believe this war will last for years.
There is a palpable sense of determination and *relief* that they too—like their grandfathers before—are involved in an existential war for the survival of their nation.
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— Gonzalo Lira (@GonzaloLira1968) February 16, 2023
Even the “doves” respect Putin, and they laugh at the idea of “regime change in Russia”.
The principal criticism of Putin is that he’s been too gentle, too patient. Many (not all) would prefer a scorched earth, total war campaign, specifically targeting the Kiev leadership.
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— Gonzalo Lira (@GonzaloLira1968) February 16, 2023
Interestingly, I sensed a gnawing anxiety over Russia’s economy, which seems to be going so well—as if it’s too good to be true.
The 2015 sanctions nearly broke their economy—but now, with even worse sanctions, none are experiencing a loss of standard of living.
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— Gonzalo Lira (@GonzaloLira1968) February 16, 2023
This is inevitably a very biased selection of opinions: Highly educated, well traveled, Western-oriented, fairly well-to-do people aged 27–60.
So imagine how much more conservative Russian working class people’s opinions would be.
Food for thought.
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— Gonzalo Lira (@GonzaloLira1968) February 16, 2023
Addendum: Yes, I forgot to include this point, which is true of popular sentiment in Russia. https://t.co/bACEFwwqgl
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I cannot confirm this from my December visit to Russia.
It seems that is a very libtard group that Gonzalo talked to.
“There is a palpable sense of determination and relief that they too—like their grandfathers before—are involved in an existential war for the survival of their nation.”
That would be a mass formation characteristic.
While nobody I talked to showed panic or fear, no one voiced even the slightest sense of relief either.
“They one and all despise the Russians who fled to Europe, Israel and Georgia.”
Same difference.
While pretty much all find those people to be deluded and/or spineless, nobody despises them as everybody seems to be willing to give them another chance if they come to their senses.
Mass formation is complete bullocks, and I don’t the point you are trying to make.
Yeah, psychiatry and psychology is bunk. /s
Much, if not most, of it IS bunk.
/’s true!
fify
I don’t agree .Now what currently passes for “modern psychology “yeah , mostly just sales and distribution for big pharma as I see it but there is a core science that concerns itself with understanding how the human mind or psyche works and it can be extremely useful and put to either good or bad ends very effectively . Its really the whole damn game when it gets down to it , psychological warfare IS spiritual warfare . The idea that the two is a distinction only in semantics . In my humble opinion .
Bullock’s bollocks
Why would someone be relieved to find themselves involved in an existential war for the survival of their nation?
You might want to think a little longer about that one.
bullocksBollocks
FIFY
Thanks, it was a typo not ignorance.
mass formation is bullshit squared to the tenth power.
I think you are full of shit and talking out your ass.
Here are the Ukrainians the left love so much saluting like the nazis they are.
If they were national socialist, they wouldn’t accept jewish leadership. Not because they necessarily must hate jews, but because jews are a separate nation from their own.
ken31..
An atheist fagboy actor like Zelensky who has jewish ancestors and will do anything to anyone to get rich is not actually ‘jewish’ in any real terms. Ditto for the atheist Khazars who run JPM GS etc.
And such atheists join Nazis all the time. George Soros is a classic example. He is a proud atheist, with Jewish ancestors from the Khazar region (UKR), who literally has proclaimed that HE is god and “the creator of all things” and confesses to a megalomaniacal urge to control all things. His first job as a teenager was working for Hitler’s Nazi SS during WW II turning in his Jewish neighbors in Hungary to the SS for a cut of their possessions when they got shipped off to death camps.
The Nazi AZOV battalion and the key politicos in UKR wear Nazi Stephan Bandera patches and Zig Heil salute each other. The Walter Cronkite of Kiev (drive time ‘news’ talking head) went on air last month proclaiming his worship of Adolph Eichmann (Hitlers SS henchman) as his all-time hero and called on Azov snipers to honor one of his favorite ethnic cleansing methods by increasing their sniper attacks on the children of UKR citizens with russian-sounding last names (which is about half the country).
Do I have to spell it for you in crayon, Forrest? The UKR government is the most full-on Nazi regime in the world and has operated on behalf of Hitler as if WW II never ended (and for them and the CIA Operation Paper Clip Nazis it really has not ever ended).
Jewish Nazis, cats & dogs living together, mass hysteria!
National Socialism is not socialism.
– B. B.
who are behid every fucking war?
-jews
The American civil war?
Just waiting for the blinding flash from the northeast…
I’d guess that this money-making war for the MIC of many countries will continue until the money dries up. then there will be a peace deal. or The Russians get tired of fooling around and flatten everything and everyone in Ukraine.
World War 2.1
“The Repeatening.”