Money Troubles

Guest Post by Jim Kunstler

“As for the evil: It lurks in the interstices of our bureaucratic institutions, which, as they have grown in size and complexity since the nineteenth century, behave in ways that are increasingly impossible to understand and contrary to human flourishing.”Eugyppius on Substack

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Money is all theoretical… until it’s not. Paper money is bad enough, as France learned under the tutelage of the rascal John Law in the early 1700s. The nation was broke, exhausted by foolish wars, and heaped under unbearable debt. Monsieur Law, a Scottish genius-wizard (the Jerry Lewis of political economy), landed in Paris, cast a spell on the regent Duc d’Orléans, set up a magic credit engine fueled by dreams of untold riches-to-come burgeoning out of the vast, new-found lands called Louisiana up the Mississippi River, and modern finance was born!

The stock-and-money schemes known as the Mississippi Bubble soon ruined France and put finance in such a bad odor that the word “banque” could not be used in polite society there for a century to come. Monetary inflation became a thing for the first time since Roman days — a much easier trick with printed paper banknotes than with silver coins — but the effect was the same: the evaporation of “wealth” (which is what money supposedly represents). At the height of the crisis, trading in gold was criminalized, though that was so easily worked-around due to sheer custom and habit that the Crown had to re-legalized it. The frenzy from start to finish lasted only a few years, but the nation was set on the path that would eventually lead to revolution. Law ended his days dolefully running card games in Venice.

Likewise, the creaking polity called the USA in our time, spawned many new incarnations of John Law as it transitioned from being “the arsenal of democracy” — you know, making real things — to a land of make-believe, where unicorns galloped over rainbows conjured by computer magic and utopian wishes of equity, diversity, and inclusion. The overhang of previously amassed wealth kept those dreams going long after we discontinued the rough and messy business of making stuff, and thereby generating real wealth. But now a klaxon blares, signaling the end of dream-time, and the nation wakes up in a ramshackle house with the floor giving way under the bed.

The rot was plain to see in the banking architecture built on US treasury paper (bills, notes, bonds) as rising interest rates undercut the price of all the debt paper issued previously at lower rates. And this was the collateral that banks generally held the depositor’s money in. So, when it became necessary to declare a problem with the balance sheet, and cash had to be raised to cover it, the treasury paper could only be sold at a loss, liabilities exceeded assets, word got out, depositors rushed to secure the money in their accounts, and that was all she wrote for yon bank, in this case, Silicon Valley Bank, the first to crumble.

Since banks today exist in a vast matrix of interconnected obligations — promises to pay this-and-that — fear grows that the rot from one bank, such as SVB, will infect many other banks that are no longer able to keep their promises about paying this-and-that, leading to a daisy-chain of things not getting paid. For an economy, that’s about the same as the blood ceasing to circulate in a body.

The practice in situations such as this (say, as in 2008-09) is for the governing authorities — who supposedly rule over the banking world like gods — to rush to rescue these outfits with “liquidity,” money (or representations of it) as required to re-balance things, or, maybe provide the impression of re-balancing until something else can be figured out. The Jupiter and Minerva of American banking, Jay Powell and Janet Yellen, were faced with just that sort of call for divine intervention over the weekend as fear seeped into every nook and crevice of the money world that wealth was flaring away in the long-feared-of conflagration out of the dumpster banking had become.

Sunday morning, Ms. Yellen told CBS News “bailouts, no way” but by the afternoon Mr. Powell cried “bailouts, way,” and they had to get their story straight. They offered up $25-billion to bail out depositors for a smoldering system that will arguably require a trillion dollars or more of liquidity to quench the spreading fires. One thing looks for sure: the interest rate hikes that Mr. Powell spoke of so confidently only days go just got stashed into his folder labeled “Fuggeddabowdit.” So, the campaign to control inflation must now yield to the urgent need to create a whole lot of money to spray over those fires.

You may have noticed that the value of your money has been slip-sliding away the past year or so. Peanut butter at five bucks a jar, and all. The situation at hand kind of guarantees that we’ll be seeing a whole ole lot more of that. And then the gods of money will have lost control of the interest rate console altogether. No more tweaking the broken knobs. More inflation will prompt US treasury paper holders to dump what they can while there’s still some value to retrieve. But the US has to issue more debt for all the bail-outs and theoretical buyers of new debt will perforce bid up the rates to keep up with inflation… and yet the US can’t possibly bear the burden of paying higher interest on its debt. Looks like the business model for running the USA is breaking down before our eyes.

Luckily, Cap’n “Joe Biden” is at the helm of this steaming garbage barge. His conference room full of geniuses is ready with the solution to our predicament: the long-mythologized Central Bank Digital Currency — a dream-come-true for would be tyrants… the Godzilla of unicorns whinnying atop the biggest rainbow of all: the promise of endless magic money for everybody, forever. All you have to do to get it is: surrender your decision-making power over your own life. The government will amalgamate your few remaining assets in a CBDC account, tell you exactly what to spend it on, and shut off your little card if you show any contrary impulses.

Well, they can try it. I doubt it will work. Instead, the government will melt down in its own rancid puddle of insolvency, the meta-grift will grind to an end, and it will be everyone for his / her / they self in the broke-down Palace of Chaos for a while… until things emergently reconstruct. But I get a little ahead of myself. It’s not even ten o’clock on Monday morning.

Oh, and then there’s Ukraine….

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197 Comments
Eyes Wide Shut
Eyes Wide Shut
March 13, 2023 10:08 am

Fifty cracks in the dam and only 10 fingers to plug them.

m
m
  Eyes Wide Shut
March 13, 2023 10:36 am

A “no bailout”-bailout will fix this.

Aunt Acid
Aunt Acid
  m
March 13, 2023 11:01 am

Bail-ins are the new and exciting twist on the money ponzi. Coming to a failed bank near you.

Colorado Artist
Colorado Artist
  Aunt Acid
March 13, 2023 3:47 pm

comment image

wideguy
wideguy
  m
March 14, 2023 9:22 pm

Not really. It’s far too complicated for that, and almost certainly too late.

Ginger
Ginger
  Eyes Wide Shut
March 13, 2023 11:01 am

‘I don’t know what kind of soldier I’m gonna make, but I want you guys to know that if we ever get into really heavy combat… I’ll be right behind you guys.’
Russell in Stripes movie.

Colorado Artist
Colorado Artist
  Ginger
March 13, 2023 4:13 pm

Bad.
Terrible.
Fucking.
Prescription .

wideguy
wideguy
  Ginger
March 14, 2023 9:23 pm

I’ll have your back Ginger!

Dangerous Variant
Dangerous Variant
  Eyes Wide Shut
March 13, 2023 12:37 pm

Yeah but this one goes to 11.

Thunder
Thunder
  Dangerous Variant
March 14, 2023 5:28 am

POP goes the amplifier and then the party was over

Euddolen ap Afallach
Euddolen ap Afallach
  Eyes Wide Shut
March 14, 2023 3:52 pm

Fifty cracks in the dam and only 10 fingers to plug them.

Don’t you hate it when you’re out plugging dam leaks all day and your bag of fingers runs out?

flash
flash
March 13, 2023 10:17 am
flash
flash
  flash
March 13, 2023 10:17 am

Please exit in an orderly fashion…

Anonymous
Anonymous
  flash
March 13, 2023 10:59 am

“Why, the banking system is as sound as the dollar.” Uh-oh.

Billy the Kid
Billy the Kid
  Anonymous
March 14, 2023 4:00 am

It all has no real worth backing it. What is a Dollar? No one seems to be able to asnswer that question these days.

Euddolen ap Afallach
Euddolen ap Afallach
  Billy the Kid
March 14, 2023 1:01 pm

What is a Dollar?
About £1.21 pounds.

What’s a henway?
About two pounds.

Euddolen ap Afallach
Euddolen ap Afallach
  Euddolen ap Afallach
March 14, 2023 3:47 pm

What is a Dollar?
About £.81 pounds.

FIFM
Fixed it for myself.

Billy the Kid
Billy the Kid
  Euddolen ap Afallach
March 14, 2023 8:21 pm

Not the modern Dollar that has no real worth.I guess I should clarify, what does the word dollar mean?

wideguy
wideguy
  Billy the Kid
March 14, 2023 9:28 pm

Nothing other than what is defined by law, which currently says an un-backed note from the (private) Federal Reserve Bank is “One Dollar” which also by law is required to be accepted.

Billy the Kid
Billy the Kid
  wideguy
March 14, 2023 9:33 pm

Passed by an unconstitutional court ignoring the constitutional standard. A dollar is fucking silver coin!

wideguy
wideguy
  Euddolen ap Afallach
March 14, 2023 9:24 pm

Comparing one fiat currency to another is not helpful.

Billy the Kid
Billy the Kid
  wideguy
March 14, 2023 9:35 pm

It wasn’t started on the path to fiat until 1913. By 1933 it was completed. It was gold and silver money prior. Ie something of fucking worth for you people that can’t seem to grasp basic concepts. The paper dollars were silver certificates redeemable for silver and with enough of them gold to, not worthless federal reserve notes like today we all slave for except the traitors, thieves, and sellouts!

Simplecarpenter
Simplecarpenter
  Billy the Kid
March 15, 2023 12:25 am

Okay!

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  flash
March 13, 2023 12:22 pm

Something tells me that Hoover gave a similar speech back in the late 20s.

Svarga Loka
Svarga Loka
  MrLiberty
March 13, 2023 2:00 pm

Steinbrueck and Merkel gave the same speech in 2014, on a Sunday afternoon. I guess Biden needed his weekend nap, so they waited for Monday.

Wally
Wally
  Svarga Loka
March 13, 2023 11:42 pm

He was “indisposed”, which in his case means no more Depends until the man in the Brown truck shows up Monday with replenishments.

flash
flash
  MrLiberty
March 13, 2023 2:16 pm

You’re a fucking one track lolbertz idiot…muh gold standard did jack to prevent the money lender engineered crash of ’29 or rampant inflation or state sanctioned ponzi schemes, but keep believing in muh free market backed by gold will save you , dimwit. Don’t forget to click your heels together three times, too….guaranteed results… LOLbertz is a Deep Shekel psyop, too, designed to give retards like you hope in place of action…reeeee .

“The Democratic politicians who were looking for a “target” in Washington pointed their finger at President Herbert Hoover. The crash was his fault! He was the goat; certainly not the One-WorldBankers with their curtailment of credit and their short selling, performed by well rewarded “fronts.”

Even to many amateurs, it was manifest the “drivers” of the Democratic political vehicle did not wish to
cooperate with President Hoover to save many banks from failing in late 1932 and early 1933; they wanted the financial mess to deepen in severity, both for beneficial political effect starting on March 4th, and for maximum profits to accrue to insiders, in picking up desirable “pieces” at rock-bottom prices. Many people feit, however, that President Hoover made a strong, bi-partisan effort in behalf of all citizens whose holdings.were lodged in “shaky banks”. In return, he was rebuffed and confronted with narrow, political opportunism by the incoming Democratic Administration and their financial helmsmen.

Upon returning to the East, after the successful Democratic Convention in Chicago, I read about
President-elect Roosevelt and his wife stopping off to pay a call at the Massachusetts home of elderly Colonel E. Mandell House. He was the former “close advisor” to President Woodrow Wilson. It would have been highly interesting to me to know the names of all those present with Colonel House then and just what transpired! Was it a question of House to Howe, or was it a question of Howe to House? That appears unimportant because of the probability that both men were duly set up and maintained by the same high-level forces, over a period of time, to see that the proper “ammunition” was carried to the future “big guns” for due use on the political stage. ”

https://archive.org/stream/DallCurtisB.FranklinDelanoRooseveltFDRMyExploitedFatherInLaw1970/Dall%2C%20Curtis%20B.%20-%20Franklin%20Delano%20Roosevelt%20-%20FDR%20-%20My%20Exploited%20Father-In-Law%20%281970%29_djvu.txt

“Regarding the Great Depression, … we did it. We’re very sorry. … We won’t do it again.”
Ben Shalom Bernanke

m
m
  flash
March 13, 2023 2:37 pm

“gold standard did jack to prevent the money lender engineered crash of ’29″

Nice strawman argument

flash
flash
  m
March 13, 2023 4:59 pm

nice blubbering idiot comment… be sure to bury your gold deep, so in the distant future when its discovered by some farmer plowing his field, your empire of dust may be remembered as the total failure it became…reeee

m
m
  flash
March 14, 2023 10:34 am

Go on assclown, and let other charlatans frame the discussion for you!

Gold cannot prevent dilution of a currency, it only ensures such dilution can’t be hidden.
(And Gold is not an investment, it’s an insurance you hope you’ll never need.)

flash
flash
  m
March 14, 2023 10:42 am

Show me in history where this ” insurance” saved anyone from the ravages of war, economic collapse , hunger, or death, fool.

If Karl Denninger and Bill Still are charlatans , what does that make an anonymous smart boy like you?

m
m
  flash
March 14, 2023 2:25 pm

Denninger is your beacon? Well that at least fits, both of you are know-it-all bigmouths.

And actually I knew someone who had to flee a country with his family, and then fed his 9 kids from the gold he had been able to carry with him, until the oldest kids could go earn money to help feed the others. That guy died last year at age 93.

flash
flash
  m
March 14, 2023 4:17 pm

not all people…reeeeee

You wouldn’t make a people on Hunter Biden’s ass much less Karl Denninger’s …smh. …you’re even more arrogantly stupid than I imagined , thus an untrusty sack of shit.

bucknp
bucknp
  flash
March 14, 2023 7:00 pm

How about some fucking NCAA men’s (maybe the last time?) fucking basketball tournament among friends?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  flash
March 14, 2023 9:39 pm

Flash, that’s the very best counter-argument I’ve ever heard!

Billy the Kid
Billy the Kid
  flash
March 14, 2023 9:07 pm

It simply reveals the thieves and tyrants. Guns and the willingness to use them on those who come to steal your wealth ie gold and silver no matter what badge they wear or banner they fly is what stops it. Unfortunately lacking the willingness and courage is what has led us all to this point. Most are helping these thieves and their enforcers out the door to their cars or jets with their stolen wealth. All with a smile and big back the blue salute. And Hail Caesar.

Wideguy
Wideguy
  flash
March 14, 2023 9:33 pm

Smarter than the “experts” you mention?

bucknp
bucknp
  m
March 14, 2023 5:42 pm

He, he…gold, cash , the dollar bill , silver, bitcoin , whatever, only Donald Trump will “save” US. It’s a sad situation. No?

wideguy
wideguy
  m
March 14, 2023 9:37 pm

What?

“Gold cannot prevent dilution of a currency, …”

The true statement is that gold backed currencies cannot be “diluted”.

m
m
  wideguy
March 15, 2023 2:06 pm

Funny, the Romans found a way to do it… less PM content in the coins.

bucknp
bucknp
  flash
March 14, 2023 6:53 pm

Are you butthurt from the downers? “It Ain’t Me Babe”.

wideguy
wideguy
  flash
March 14, 2023 9:32 pm

Are you directing that comment to the central bankers al around the worl who have been buying gold by the multiple tons for decades now?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  m
March 14, 2023 7:00 am

strawman, it was and is a fact.

Billy the Kid
Billy the Kid
  flash
March 14, 2023 4:41 am

So what would be your solution? They will misuse whatever mechanism left in their hands against us regular people. Worthless paper currency, gold and silver coin,credit,cbdcs,it is all rife for control and misuses. Shall we hang all the bankers and start over? However, gold and silver coinage us the only lawful constitutional money.

flash
flash
  Billy the Kid
March 14, 2023 7:39 am
flash
flash
  flash
March 14, 2023 7:43 am

Invest in community and ammo, then grow some chickens, bacon and beans, bruh. Gold didn’t save the Incas and it wont save you either.

Start @ 28:00
https://archive.org/details/USAWATCHDOG.COMKarlDenningerWeAllKnowHowThisPartyIsGoing

Billy the Kid
Billy the Kid
  flash
March 14, 2023 6:43 pm

I agree with the invest in ammo and community part, but one needs a sound money for when bartering fails. Our communites need sound ,precious metal money.

Billy the Kid
Billy the Kid
  Billy the Kid
March 14, 2023 10:15 pm

The land ,livestock I agree with that to. I notice they are fucking with the chicken supply.

bucknp
bucknp
  flash
March 14, 2023 7:08 pm

I’m all into beans and southern peas bro. Got ‘er down and this season will be a hell of a season God permitting. Fresh, fresh frozen, dried, Zipper cream peas , Blue Lake bush ( local feed store was unable to get Blue Lake pole beans, or Kentucky poles, hum?) Contender Bush beans. They all like a trellis of course, even the bush style. I ain’t no farmer but I’ve been a learnin’ this stuff.

Billy the Kid
Billy the Kid
  flash
March 14, 2023 9:31 am

Well I suppose we will see. I never really put much stock in the Bible Mumbo jumbo. Cults have ruled this world for along time,the Christian cult is helping this all along with this defeatist ,nothing can be done about it attitude. We have to have a sound barter system and money. Paper, credit,cbdcs, and crypto don’t cut it. We need to be paid fairly,and have our money be worth a good fair amount. Most importantly though,it must be phsycal money we can hold in our hands if we wish, not some bs on a computer screen only,or worthless paper.

flash
flash
  Billy the Kid
March 14, 2023 9:58 am

“I never really put much stock in the Bible Mumbo jumbo” Because you’re a special smart boy and hundreds of millions of stupid Christians have been wrong all along…reeee

Billy the Kid
Billy the Kid
  flash
March 14, 2023 6:02 pm

Where are all the apostles he promised would see him and his angels coming in the clouds to judge the earth and everyone in it in their generation, oh wise one? Are they still living? Do you see him and his angels ruling this wicked system of men and women fucking us every day? I sure as hell don’t. I’d say the miracle is that this cult lasted as many centuries with so many failed prophecies, the really important ones. Or with this culture of talking trash and turn the other cheek doing little of anything in the face of evil tyranny. Go to the Coliseum Brothers,die for your jesus while caesar drinks his wine and rapes your wives and children. Sorry ,that life style and death cult isnt for me. Well not sorry. Only good thing about it is it keeps the kids out of trouble on sundays and is cheaper than day care.

flash
flash
  Billy the Kid
March 14, 2023 6:15 pm

None so blind as those who refuse to see…https://youtu.be/fzSkIBgeETo

Billy the Kid
Billy the Kid
  flash
March 14, 2023 6:54 pm

What’s blind about it? I’ve heard enough sermons to last a life time as a child into my teens before I finally had enough. Went over Seas, saw some of the world outside this once free but never perfect place. Can say though I see God despite the evil I’ve experienced and witnessed, I’ve never seen Jesus, or his kingdom.I’ve prayed to him and received miracle, but that could easly be some other God answering out of pity on a sincere souls prayer. I’ve seen, just alot of people selling Jesus to me for a donation.

I got no problem with most Christians, but they have a problem with me because I don’t consent or conform to their Jesus. If that sends me to hell in their minds I’d them ask how their Jesus is so loving he lets billions of people like me go there if he loves us so much? The responses vary, usually the free will arguments. Okay so, jesus doesn’t want robots, but wants yes men and women that follow without question. Not seeing much of a difference . I aint into devil worshipers either, unless its screwing there busty pale women dressed like goths at times,or maybe they were goths or emos,can’t say I see much difference. Guess I am fucked.Lol

Oh and please don’t get me started on why Jesus wanted ol Sauly boy the jew murderer of christians and none jews who became Pauly boy. Who then became Pauly boy the Roman citizen to get out of being executed.

bucknp
bucknp
  Billy the Kid
March 14, 2023 7:21 pm

“this wicked system of men and women fucking ”

Yep, and for a long time “sex” with goats, hogs, donkeys, never mind.

Billy the Kid
Billy the Kid
  bucknp
March 14, 2023 7:33 pm

You had to add the beastiality in , goddammit! Well not my cup of tea, to each there own I supposes, barf.🤣🤣🤣😩😬🤣🤣

Anonymous
Anonymous
  bucknp
March 14, 2023 9:16 pm

I just tried to order some take out for delivery and the CUNT who answered phone who should be at home making a sandwich for her man , says no more deliveries tonight , because they close in 30 minutes.

So this CUNT decided that everyone else made enough today.

I explained to the last owner that went out of business that this was not the way to go, don’t let CUNTS ever work for you.

Rant is over.

Billy the Kid
Billy the Kid
  Anonymous
March 14, 2023 10:51 pm

Well ,maybe if you gave a good tip she’d have reconsidered. 🤔🤣

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Billy the Kid
March 14, 2023 11:32 pm

Hey Cunt , best tipper in my town of 98K

Billy the Kid
Billy the Kid
  Anonymous
March 14, 2023 11:49 pm

Eh hmmm, well that’s not what she said. And I ain’t no cunt.

bucknp
bucknp
  flash
March 14, 2023 7:18 pm

…nobody’s right if everybody’s wrong

Billy the Kid
Billy the Kid
  bucknp
March 14, 2023 7:31 pm

Love that song. True saying to.

bucknp
bucknp
  Billy the Kid
March 14, 2023 7:14 pm

Man, I’m a grain in the sand like everyone else , go to church not to impose on unbelievers but to worship and even if I’d gone to Nam like some unfortunates I know and had a leg or both legs blown off, kind of like the guys returning from Iraq and Afghanistan I’d still give thanks to the one and only God.

Billy the Kid
Billy the Kid
  bucknp
March 14, 2023 7:39 pm

I agree, I give thanks and am grateful for every day despite my depression and hardships. Just not sure God is Jesus, not sure I ever was sure. Not sure it matters.

bucknp
bucknp
  Billy the Kid
March 14, 2023 9:53 pm

Sorry for the depression and hardships. Veteran?

I believe the Trinity , Father , Son and Spirit.

Billy the Kid
Billy the Kid
  bucknp
March 14, 2023 10:39 pm

What I was or wasn’t isnt important, only the now. I want and believe in freedom ,and Liberty. Gods and governments often get in the way.

Billy the Kid
Billy the Kid
  Billy the Kid
March 14, 2023 10:32 pm

WilbursHuman
WilbursHuman
  flash
March 14, 2023 11:41 am

As Catherine Austin Fitts said awhile ago…………………..

“Buy land and…………… Learn how to grow Food “!!!!!!

we seem to have forgotten that along the way.

Euddolen ap Afallach
Euddolen ap Afallach
  WilbursHuman
March 14, 2023 12:48 pm

.

Billy the Kid
Billy the Kid
  WilbursHuman
March 14, 2023 8:43 pm

I agree.

VOWG
VOWG
  flash
March 15, 2023 7:59 am

I have made the point many times that one cannot eat gold and if there is no food then gold is worth just as much as paper.

wideguy
wideguy
  flash
March 14, 2023 9:29 pm

Flash, it hurts my heart to see you are still such a total idiot.

flash
flash
  MrLiberty
March 13, 2023 5:36 pm

I sure hope Hoover doesn’t ban gold again and all the strong and independent patriots are forced to turn their golden horde in for a pittance of it’s market value , but kill some naziz fer’ muh freedom ….reeee

Anonymous
Anonymous
  flash
March 14, 2023 8:09 am

Flash- Are you experiencing a touch of BPD today?? You better git u some gold bruh, it’s real money. One billion two hundred million Indian people can’t all be wrong. The citizens of India own more gold than the USA, Europe and the IMF combined. Store your wealth in REAL MONEY bruh, it’s the only way out.

BL here.

flash
flash
  Anonymous
March 14, 2023 8:37 am

Inca and Aztecs had a lot of gold, but couldn’t defend any of it. Funny too , the Spanish Empire in America was literally ass-raped to death and stopped dead in it’s expansionist tracks by bands of wild horse Indians who didn’t give a rats ass about gold. They raided the Spanish for horses , food, women and slaves and all that gold served the Spanish naught….but collect all you want, using money that could be put to better use, just remember , there is no instance in history where gold prevented inflation, economical meltdowns or collapses empires. Also , gold didn’t save India from getting bungholed by the Brit’s in the late 18 century, and won’t now, but what will save India is ‘ might makes right ‘ and always will, gold notwithstanding.
See Germany circa 1939 with blitzkrieging armor … and now the game changer is hypersonic.

“A deal to purchase in excess of 200 extended-range BrahMos supersonic cruise missiles for the Indian Navy is at an “advanced stage”, the country’s Defense Ministry has said.

The weapons system, which was developed in a joint venture by Russia’s NPO Mashinostroyenyia rocket design bureau and the Indian Defense Research and Development Organization, is to be deployed on all frontline warships of the Indian Navy, the ANI news agency reported. The deal is estimated to be in the region of $2.5 billion.

The missiles are also expected to be used in mobile coastal defense battery systems.”

https://www.rt.com/india/572889-india-brahmos-missile-purchase/

BL
BL
  flash
March 14, 2023 8:57 am

News Flash………The Spanish empire and the Nazis were all looking for GOLD. They know what you don’t seem to grasp, git u some gold Flash while it is still available.

flash
flash
  BL
March 14, 2023 8:59 am

You don’t seem very astute , BL. You just made my argument against gold. It saved neither the Spanish nor Nazi’s , but get some….reee

BL
BL
  flash
March 14, 2023 9:11 am

Didn’t save central banks either but they sure love that shiny stuff. Seriously, better git u some. Your argument has more holes than Swiss cheese , FYI……the Nazis didn’t lose. They were just getting geared up in 45, practizing for the big show you see now.

flash
flash
  BL
March 14, 2023 9:59 am

ha ha ha…now you funny , too.

Billy the Kid
Billy the Kid
  flash
March 14, 2023 9:19 am

Wasn’t that FDR that banned gold coins and bullion in citizens hands? Not Hoover.

flash
flash
  Billy the Kid
March 14, 2023 10:01 am

Thank you smart boy … but Hoover was still bad because he couldn’t money lender credit/money manipulation.

Billy the Kid
Billy the Kid
  flash
March 14, 2023 6:18 pm

Boy? lol,have you ever done anything in life that doesn’t involve assuming? Maybe I just like Billy the Kids story. Not saying I disagree about Money lenders the banksand their corruption. Just saying get your facts straight if your gonna shit on gold and silver as sound money for the last 10 centuries plus, before the money lenders treason changed it to worthless paper, nickel plated copper coins,and credit .

flash
flash
  flash
March 14, 2023 10:13 am

You cannot extend the mastery of government over the daily life of a people without somewhere making it master of people’s souls and thoughts…. Every step in that direction poisons the very roots of liberalism. It poisons political equality, free speech, free press, and equality of opportunity. It is the road not to more liberty but to less liberty.”

Herbert Hoover

Billy the Kid
Billy the Kid
  flash
March 14, 2023 7:24 pm

I always like Baum

Randolph Scott
Randolph Scott
  flash
March 13, 2023 8:20 pm

Fuck Joe Biden and exterminate Magic Negro as well.

bucknp
bucknp
  Randolph Scott
March 14, 2023 7:24 pm

I’m thinking Fuck Joe and Don the Con as well. Eh?

Thunder
Thunder
  flash
March 14, 2023 5:35 am

Hey Joe, If the banking system is safe why are banks shuttering, Underwater bonds being brought at Face by Joe public, rules of insurance wiped away and you’re are saying it is safe. Remember Marathon Man.. Is It safe? well cavities everywhere it seems

bucknp
bucknp
  flash
March 14, 2023 5:37 pm

Don’t be negative. The TrumpMobSters are gonna save US.

Billy the Kid
Billy the Kid
  bucknp
March 14, 2023 6:36 pm

MUHAHAHA, LMFAO!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

bucknp
bucknp
  Billy the Kid
March 14, 2023 7:26 pm

Hey, Donnie can do no wrong. His mommy said so…up there in Queens. Must be a shithole. Glad I was born in a barn with Texas Longhorn manure.

flash
flash
March 13, 2023 10:21 am

Just another Scottish ponzi schemer, bruh.

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flash
flash
  flash
March 13, 2023 10:26 am

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anon a moos
anon a moos
  flash
March 13, 2023 10:30 am

Ouch!! Butt freak’n ugly on top of evil and stupid.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  anon a moos
March 13, 2023 10:44 am

Remember the Rodney Dangerfield line? “I bet you were something! Back before electricity.”

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Harrington Richardson
March 13, 2023 11:45 pm

Who the hell makes her wardrobe choices?

Billy the Kid
Billy the Kid
  Anonymous
March 14, 2023 6:29 pm

Chairman Mao?

The Central Scrutinizer
The Central Scrutinizer
  Harrington Richardson
March 14, 2023 10:02 am

“Hey baby! Wanna make two bucks the hard way?”

‘Whoa! Last time I saw a mouth like that it had a hook in it!”

“Now I know why tigers eat their young!”

Rodney was the King.

flash
flash
  flash
March 13, 2023 10:53 am

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flash
flash
  flash
March 13, 2023 10:58 am

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Aunt Acid
Aunt Acid
  flash
March 13, 2023 11:03 am

The game Monopoly is better regulated than the USSA’s financial institutions and the gubbermint.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Aunt Acid
March 13, 2023 12:23 pm

Yes, because when you play monopoly and someone cheats, you can get up and kick his/her ass, and REFUSE TO PLAY with them EVER AGAIN.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  MrLiberty
March 13, 2023 1:04 pm

Maybe we should try that.

Anthony Aaron
Anthony Aaron
  Aunt Acid
March 13, 2023 1:26 pm

… and pretty soon you’ll be able to use those Monopoly game ‘dollars’ at stores and businesses near you …

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Anthony Aaron
March 13, 2023 5:36 pm

You already do:
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Aunt Acid
Aunt Acid
  MrLiberty
March 14, 2023 10:54 am

A colour Cohencidence?

Euddolen ap Afallach
Euddolen ap Afallach
  Aunt Acid
March 14, 2023 11:18 am

I get a cohenickle every time someone says cohencidence.

Billy the Kid
Billy the Kid
  Aunt Acid
March 14, 2023 9:20 pm

Nawww,I think not.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Aunt Acid
March 15, 2023 9:25 am

More like a giant middle finger from the treasury.

Wally
Wally
  flash
March 13, 2023 11:48 pm

Thanks to a large, multi-function color Xerox copier at work, our supply of Monopoly money grew quite large and we NEVER ran out of money, even with six people playing. Crap, had I thought about it, that alone qualified me to be some kind of Assistant to Something in the US Treasury.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Wally
March 14, 2023 9:21 am

Nope, that’s FED material.

bucknp
bucknp
  Wally
March 14, 2023 7:33 pm

You are lucky. In the corporate environment I worked every page out of a printer was accounted for. It pissed me off because I could not print out thousands of pages on the corporate dime of Ron Paul propaganda, 2008, 2012. Bummer.

flash
flash
  flash
March 13, 2023 2:18 pm

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“The last official act of any government is to loot the treasury.”

— George Washington

Billy the Kid
Billy the Kid
  flash
March 14, 2023 9:22 pm

The fences, military,and fed snipers guarding the traitorous capital make any sense to you sheep yet?

Thunder
Thunder
  flash
March 14, 2023 5:41 am

If that thing shows himself on Thank God it’s Friday I will have to shoot myself. Beauty is only skin deep but evil looks like him

Thunder
Thunder
  flash
March 14, 2023 5:38 am

Would That be My Old Mate John Laws, He was Quite the card shark with three card Monte

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
March 13, 2023 10:48 am

The steaming pile grows by the hour.

flash
flash
  Harrington Richardson
March 13, 2023 11:01 am

Seems appropriate…

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  flash
March 13, 2023 12:46 pm

Great song.

Billy the Kid
Billy the Kid
  Mary Christine
March 14, 2023 7:28 pm

Indeed.

Iggy
Iggy
March 13, 2023 10:52 am

It’s a Jews world after all Its a Jew, Jew world .

Boogie
Boogie
  Iggy
March 13, 2023 11:06 am

Those who claim to be Jewish but are not. FIFY

Anthony Aaron
Anthony Aaron
  Boogie
March 13, 2023 1:27 pm

A rose by any other name … or, a turd by any other name … 

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anthony Aaron
March 13, 2023 7:25 pm
Ginger
Ginger
  Iggy
March 13, 2023 1:23 pm

Knew disney was going down hill when they changed Tom Sawyer Island to Epstein Island, and the waiting lines got longer.

Iggy
Iggy
  Ginger
March 14, 2023 8:00 am

What a coincidence Israeli banks transferred a billion dollars out of SVB before collapse .At least Captain Poopy Pants leader of the USSA and the “free world ” lol isn’t that a joke says the taxpayer isn’t on the hook for this bailout. Maybe his son the magic crackhead can be put on the board of the fed to straighten it all out like his diseased penis.

flash
flash
  Iggy
March 14, 2023 11:24 am

ha ha ha…Deep Shekels always got Deep Shekel’s back….but muh gold standard free market capitalism…reeee
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Euddolen ap Afallach
Euddolen ap Afallach
  Ginger
March 14, 2023 1:06 pm

Injun Joe’s cave on Epstein Island!

Priceless.

Anonymous
Anonymous
March 13, 2023 11:04 am

That Joe. What a madcap!

Euddolen ap Afallach
Euddolen ap Afallach
  Anonymous
March 14, 2023 11:20 am

Shantytown Zanty Joe!

Boogie
Boogie
March 13, 2023 11:05 am

We will eventually have one bank, The Federal Reserve Bank of America. It’s a controlled demolition of the current system. The whole thing has been insolvent for last 53 years. The ship just won’t float anymore.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
March 13, 2023 11:07 am
Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
  Mary Christine
March 13, 2023 3:22 pm

Dropping yield means increasing price. Somebody is buying enough bonds to raise the price of bonds.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Harrington Richardson
March 13, 2023 3:56 pm

That “somebody” is most likely the Federal Reserve.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Mary Christine
March 13, 2023 4:26 pm

That’s one way to back the banks longer term bonds

I'm the Man on the Silver Mountain
I'm the Man on the Silver Mountain
  Anonymous
March 14, 2023 7:48 pm

In my opinion, only a damned fool would buy US bonds. They lost my trust long ago.

I'm the Man on the Silver Mountain
I'm the Man on the Silver Mountain
  Mary Christine
March 14, 2023 7:44 pm

It sure as hell isn’t me. All my .GOV paper derivatives got sold 2007-2008 and traded for gold and silver. I refuse to buy any bonds, even short-term notes, with savings, ever.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Harrington Richardson
March 13, 2023 11:54 pm

Who will be buying when the Chinese start dumping their massive collection of Uncle Sam’s paper?

Anonymous
Anonymous
March 13, 2023 11:28 am

These ‘ banks ‘ are heavy in the crypto space. Unrestrained crypto is a long term threat to total control.

Thunder
Thunder
  Anonymous
March 14, 2023 5:50 am

It is in reality a Counterfeited alternative to the US Dollar but not backed by land, infrastructure or any Military . Here is the big problem for the US taxpayer to make whole….comment image

WilliamtheResolute
WilliamtheResolute
March 13, 2023 11:50 am

I’m just an old deplorable conspiracy theorist clinging to my bible and my guns, and that useless relic gold…suddenly I feel vindicated.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  WilliamtheResolute
March 13, 2023 12:25 pm

You’ve been vindicated by 10,000 years of history (well, not the Bible and the guns for that long) all along.

Toujours Pret
Toujours Pret
March 13, 2023 12:20 pm

“They” wanted a distraction for the masses from the ongoing and coming to light revelations and occurrences. What better way than a direct threat to “the coin of the realm” and their livelihoods

B_MC
B_MC
  Toujours Pret
March 13, 2023 12:37 pm

I was just thinking that. Notice how we have stopped talking about the J6 tapes?

Aunt Acid
Aunt Acid
  B_MC
March 13, 2023 12:56 pm

and “The cases, the cases…”

Wally
Wally
  Aunt Acid
March 13, 2023 11:55 pm

Friday night might be a good time to release Epstein’s little black book.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
March 13, 2023 12:21 pm

A link to an outstanding book by one of the greatest scholars of our time, on a very timely subject. The link will allow you to download whatever version of the book works best for you…for free.

https://mises.org/library/mystery-banking

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  MrLiberty
March 13, 2023 3:41 pm

A downvote? Seriously? Have you actually read this great book?

Perfect Stranger
Perfect Stranger
  MrLiberty
March 14, 2023 10:53 am

They down-voted because they can’t read my friend

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Perfect Stranger
March 14, 2023 1:30 pm

Won’t

mark
mark
March 13, 2023 12:35 pm

I would change the title of this thread to:

BULLSHIT FIAT CURRANCY TROUBLES!

Billy the Kid
Billy the Kid
  mark
March 14, 2023 4:46 am

Crypto is fake money.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Billy the Kid
March 14, 2023 7:20 am

So is the dollar.

Billy the Kid
Billy the Kid
  Anonymous
March 14, 2023 8:04 pm

Never said it wasn’t, at least it is physical. Flip a switch and all crypto is confiscated or deleted.

bucknp
bucknp
  Anonymous
March 14, 2023 8:24 pm

In the meantime if you don’t want your dollar bills I’ll gladly spend 1500 of your fiat for this beast:

https://www.smith-wesson.com/product/n-frame-170341

Signed,

Ben Wantin’ Won

Billy the Kid
Billy the Kid
  bucknp
March 14, 2023 9:28 pm

I’d love one, thing kicks like a mule though. Better hit the target first,you won’t get a second shot most likely if you miss. On the flip side ,what you hit is most likely dead and gibbed to the next neighborhood.

bucknp
bucknp
  Billy the Kid
March 14, 2023 10:19 pm

When Ben started Wantin’ Won they were less than a grand. Still lots of bucks for this out of the loop firearms hobbyist.

I said I would never go to another gun show after attending one about a year ago. I was coaxed into going to another. Albeit both small guns shows they were depressing the $$$ that were being asked for ze guns.

Anthony Aaron
Anthony Aaron
March 13, 2023 1:25 pm

I wonder just how cohencidental it is that the 90-day experiment with CBDC that the Fed began in late-November, 2022 — and likely just ended — and the crashing of SVB, et al., the past week … 

Nah … nothing to see here … 

Euddolen ap Afallach
Euddolen ap Afallach
  Anthony Aaron
March 14, 2023 12:40 pm

Another cohenickle.
It’s like finding candy.

Ooh, A piece of cohen!

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
March 13, 2023 3:58 pm

Lynette loves her charts.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Administrator
March 13, 2023 11:58 pm

Just as Pfizer has immunity protections, KPMG has its disclaimer statements to shield itself.

Long Time Lurker
Long Time Lurker
  Administrator
March 13, 2023 4:31 pm

Admin, You setting up a NCAA TBP bracket this year? I need me some circuses!!!

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Administrator
March 13, 2023 11:59 pm

Old Joe and his priceless antics.

BL
BL
  Administrator
March 14, 2023 8:17 am

Watching the Dow-mini this morning flashing red town ticks every few seconds. It’s in the green at +199 and falling…….look out below.

bucknp
bucknp
  BL
March 14, 2023 8:32 pm

Up jumped the devil. +336 at the finish line for what it is “worth”.

Anonymous
Anonymous
March 13, 2023 7:25 pm

Oh, oh . . . the gummint’s gonna fix the money problems . . . again:

Government Steps In With Plan to Protect All Deposits at Silicon Valley Bank
Beginning on Monday, depositors will be able to access all of their funds, regulators announce
https://www.2ndsmartestguyintheworld.com/p/government-steps-in-with-plan-to

overthecliff
overthecliff
March 13, 2023 7:57 pm

Well, Joe said everything is good. I feel so much better now.

Rod
Rod
  overthecliff
March 14, 2023 12:08 am

Before or after you went into the bathroom and kneeled before the toilet?

flash
flash
March 14, 2023 8:45 am

Republicans are the Gold Standard for back stabbing, shit eating , Deep Shekel pwnd, cowardly dogs. They are very good at talking the shit, but never walk the walk.

flash
flash
  flash
March 14, 2023 9:10 am

Can’t wait ’till the Repugs bring back the Fair Tax carrot…wait …whut? ha ha ha

POLITICS
A group of Republicans are pushing a so-called Fair Tax Act – here’s how it works
BY SARAH EWALL-WICE

JANUARY 26, 2023 /

“A group of House Republicans are pushing to eliminate most federal taxes and replace them with a federal sales tax in a plan that would also abolish the Internal Revenue Service. But tax experts warn the so-called Fair Tax Act is not so fair to working families while giving the wealthiest Americans a break.

The bill, HR25, would eliminate all individual and corporate income taxes, capital gains, payroll taxes and estate taxes while imposing a 23% sales tax on goods and services. However, tax experts point out that the way the tax is calculated, Americans would pay closer to 30% more for everyday purchases.”

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fair-tax-act-republican-proposal-how-it-works/

bucknp
bucknp
  flash
March 14, 2023 8:50 pm

Ease up, have “faith” because Sean Hannity is a Trump Republican and Dan “Banjo” Bongino says he is not a Republican but a “conservative”. Bongino I can stomach somewhat although he is a TrumpTard too. Hannity, what I dumped out of my gut this morning.

Gadsden flag
Gadsden flag
March 14, 2023 9:25 am

We name streets for politicians. Why not the lampposts also which throw light on their dark paths?

Euddolen ap Afallach
Euddolen ap Afallach
  Gadsden flag
March 14, 2023 5:12 pm

We name streets for politicians. Why not the lampposts also which throw light on their dark paths?
Please expand on this comment.

Klingon
Klingon
March 14, 2023 9:56 am

” One Bank to rule them all , one credit scheme to find them , one bank to bring them all ……

and in endless DEBT to BIND them ”

@ricwe123
The American financial system:

If you thought Silicon Valley Bank was bad.
The Fed is now sitting on unrealized losses of $1.2 trillion on their $8.3 trillion bond portfolio.

At the same time the Fed is losing money every day by paying $$$ to commercial banks…..

TLate
TLate
March 14, 2023 11:30 am

Don’t worry Brandon is going to mint a Trillion dollar coin so we can print money into infinity and beyond!

Euddolen ap Afallach
Euddolen ap Afallach
  TLate
March 14, 2023 3:41 pm

Joey said “I had them print a one million trillion trillion billion dollar bill and I paid off all the world’s debt. See? Smarter than Drumph, that idiot couldn’t sausage and egg biscuit suffwaginzy candy asseria kegsulsteam”

[He said this while tapping a finger on his temple as he fell out of his chair]

I'm the Man on the Silver Mountain
I'm the Man on the Silver Mountain
  Euddolen ap Afallach
March 14, 2023 8:01 pm

Well, that settles it.
I’ll just have a big hot cup of covfefe and STFU now.

Klingon
Klingon
March 14, 2023 11:33 am

@VigilantFox / video interview

Slow Collapse, Controlled Implosion: “It’s Gonna Be Whack-a-Mole All the Way Down” –
@DowdEdward

“Now we’re at the endgame because the US dollar is in all corners of the world; the debt that’s been created using something called foreign-dollar-denominated debt, and that’s choking the credit system. That’s why Russia, China, and Saudi Arabia are all meeting to delink from the dollar. Basically, we’re at the end of the US Federal Reserve Currency as the world reserve currency. And what you’re going to see is our government and the powers that be in this country tried to save that. So whatever we see going on is a fight for who’s going to control the world reserve currency status going forward.”

anon a moos
anon a moos
  Klingon
March 14, 2023 12:03 pm

One thing certain. It won’t the the petrodollar. Its finished, only thing left is the burial.

I'm the Man on the Silver Mountain
I'm the Man on the Silver Mountain
  anon a moos
March 14, 2023 8:06 pm

The Arabs, Chinese, and Russians like gold and commodities. I wonder what the exchange rates will be for a Western CBDC?
LMAO

I wouldn’t be surprised if MBS is expecting a regime change soon in KSA soon ….

Arthur_500
Arthur_500
March 14, 2023 12:38 pm

Examine the money printing lessons of Massachusetts and Rhode Island. When capital flowed out of these locations they realized the error of their ways. MA went back to hard money and start to recover quickly. Rhode Island hung on for several more years of pain before they smartened up.

Paper money represents something. Trust is malleable while gold is not (unless it comes from the Perth Mint). Invest in what you can hold, not promises.

Me
Me
March 14, 2023 2:51 pm

Hey gang, I’m asking this here because I don’t have anyone else to ask.
I’m currently looking for a place to live. Can’t afford a mortgage and looking to rent I guess. I hate the idea of paying to live somewhere and that money not going into building equity. The cheapest (and least ghetto) decent apartment I have found in the area is $1800/month. That’s almost 22k a year for someone who is disabled and has to live on $1500 a month. I have a little nest egg in savings to help supplement and pay bills, and am really debating buying an RV to live in for a year instead.
Just a stressed out man over here trying to deal with health problems, a recent pancreatic cancer diagnosis, ex keeping my child from me, no family willing to lend a hand, and the realization that after trying, I cannot return to the career and work I loved to do prior to the injury that disabled me. I’m not stating all this for pity, or to complain. I’m just genuinely looking for direction.
Should I rent, but an RV, or try to get a mortgage on a small house. What’s the smartest way to ride this out?

Euddolen ap Afallach
Euddolen ap Afallach
  Me
March 14, 2023 4:14 pm

Sorry you are suffering.

Loving the rv idea.

Especially if you can park it in emf dead zones. (Which could slow cancer)

BL
BL
  Me
March 14, 2023 6:14 pm

Me- You could share rent with someone else. I can’t see you being happy in a RV.

Relocate to a cheaper area in a small town, there are still $800 apartments out there , or there are very small 250 SQ FT condos that may be affordable for you.

BabbleOn
BabbleOn
  Me
March 14, 2023 7:12 pm

A decent trailer home can be had for little. They can be quite livable and cheap to maintain. Communities vary so some due diligence is required. Good luck.

BL
BL
  BabbleOn
March 14, 2023 7:22 pm

RV’s can be restrictive for a disabled fellow. It is better than no housing if you aren’t too limited physically.

bucknp
bucknp
  BL
March 14, 2023 11:03 pm

The disabled Vietnam marine vet I sold the unit to had a severe intestinal abnormality and had to visit the men’s room three times in the thirty minutes or so I showed him and a couple of his buddies the unit. Accessibility to the john was his primary concern. It must have worked out. Some four years after selling the unit I passed through that area and a marine flag was still mounted.

Billy the Kid
Billy the Kid
  Me
March 14, 2023 8:12 pm

Buy some cheap land in Az,Nv,or another state where you can live in your Rv. Cheaper than rent.

bucknp
bucknp
  Me
March 14, 2023 9:21 pm

Dear Me,

I rented an RV space at Shady Hill RV Park for $450 month including the water, sewer and electric from 2012-2016. It was near Lake Worth, Tarrant County , Texas in bohemian surroundings. I had purchased a used Holiday Rambler Presidential 5th wheel, 52′ as I recall and had it delivered to the park as a temporary home. Paid 16k used ( originally a 55k new unit, now no telling) and a quick sell of 10k when it had served it’s purpose.

A bonus was the area was unincorporated so that on 4th of July, Christmas and New Years peeps on the other side of Jacksboro Highway put on some very nice fireworks displays. Some stray dogs as there was no “animal control” being located in an unincorporated area but that was no big deal. Quiet place with no frills. Just a suggestion for you.

Shady Hill RV Park can be verified on maps on Jacksboro Hwy aka Hwy 199 between Lake Worth and Azle , Texas.

bucknp
bucknp
March 14, 2023 6:49 pm

As the DOW finishes 330+. The DOW. During Trump it was the greatest achievement man has ever known. And because of HIM. 🙂

BL
BL
  bucknp
March 14, 2023 6:58 pm

buck- The Fed did a pump and dump today to hold the Dow up, the red flashes were every few seconds early this morning before the open.

The stock market has nothing to do with the economy, buck. The bond market is a better indicator, Trump did whatever benefited Da Joos.

bucknp
bucknp
  BL
March 14, 2023 10:35 pm

I agree it’s not the economy. I laugh how Trump criticized the DOW as being too high before he landed in the WH then tooted his horn how it had reached record levels and because of him. Funny it broke even Trump’s record after he left.