Ex-Russian space boss questions US Moon landing

Via RT

Dmitry Rogozin says that while many in Roscosmos defended Washington’s version of events, no one could produce irrefutable proof  Dmitry Rogozin. © Sputnik/Sergey Mamontov

The former head of Russia’s Roscosmos space agency, Dmitry Rogozin, has expressed doubt that the US Apollo 11 mission really landed on the Moon in 1969, saying he has yet to see conclusive proof.

In a post on his Telegram channel on Sunday, Rogozin said he began his personal quest for the truth “about ten years ago” when he was still working in the Russian government, and that he grew skeptical about whether the Americans had actually set foot on the Moon when he compared how exhausted Soviet cosmonauts looked upon returning from their flights, and how seemingly unaffected the Apollo 11 crew was by contrast.

Rogozin said he sent requests for evidence to Roscosmos at the time. All he received in response was a book featuring Soviet Cosmonaut Aleksey Leonov’s account of how he talked to the American astronauts and how they told him they had been on the Moon.

The former official wrote that he continued with his efforts when he was appointed head of Roscosmos in 2018. However, according to Rogozin, no evidence was presented to him. Instead, several unnamed academics angrily criticized him for undermining the “sacred cooperation with NASA,” he claimed.

The former Roscosmos chief also said he had “received an angry phone call from a top-ranking official” who supposedly accused him of complicating international relations.

Rogozin concluded by saying he still cannot believe that the US was able to pull off the feat, but is now unable to, despite the incredible progress in technology since the late 1960s.

What he claims to have found out, however, was that Washington has “its people in [the Russian] establishment.”

Apollo 11 was the first manned mission to the Moon, with Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin going down in history as the first humans to walk on the lunar surface.

The flight was preceded by the unmanned Soviet Luna 2 program, which blazed the trail for Moon exploration.

Last April, President Vladimir Putin pledged to resume Russia’s lunar program. (RT)

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m
m
May 8, 2023 1:53 pm

Nice try,
but the link named “Via RT” actually links to http://www.azerbaycan24.com 🙂

Long Time Lurker
Long Time Lurker
May 8, 2023 1:54 pm

And so it begins (again) lol

Gary
Gary
  Long Time Lurker
May 8, 2023 3:18 pm

I don’t know, the construction of the meth-addict’s tree fort (made from curtain rods and aluminum foil) seemed pretty solid to me 😉

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
May 8, 2023 2:25 pm

Apparently there is no telescope on Earth strong enough to see the purported debris on the moon. A craft (Chinese, maybe) would have to orbit the moon and peer down at the supposed sites of the Apollo missions to confirm or deny the presence of debris. There’d be more litter if any of the astronauts had been Mexican.

YourAverageJoe
YourAverageJoe
  Iska Waran
May 8, 2023 2:45 pm
Warren
Warren
  Iska Waran
May 8, 2023 4:16 pm

How about this crash from.last.year.
Supposedly it’s the result of a Chinese satellite hitting the Moon. I call bulshit on that one. The diameter of the moon is 2159 miles, and the debris cloud erupts out at least 10% of that. That’s something like over 200 miles out into space. Sure lower gravity and the whole perspective thing, but still no way a rocket or satellite kicks.up that much debris that high.

Either the ChiComs nuked the Moon or a seriously large asteroid hit it, and the powers that be lied about what it was as to not cause a panic. But I’m betting that the assholes in DC were all MIA in some bunker in the Mountains all nice and snug as a bug in a rug and leaving the rest of us to kiss our asses goodbye.

BL the anti-socialist
BL the anti-socialist
  Warren
May 8, 2023 7:31 pm

hologram.

Anthony Aaron
Anthony Aaron
  Warren
May 8, 2023 8:08 pm

If a seriously large asteroid hit it it would likely cast off large amounts of debris … and maybe even be bumped out of its current orbit around the Earth …

The True Nolan
The True Nolan
  Warren
May 8, 2023 10:32 pm

Very very fake. Moon is about 2,000 miles in diameter. Object at about the same distance as moon if they collided. Object crosses about two moon diameter in six seconds, therefore traveling (at a minimum under the assumption is is moving at right angles to the viewer. Other angles would give higher speeds) about 4,000 miles per six seconds, so speed of object is about 2,400,000 miles per hour. For it to be visible from earth in a twilight sky it would need to be at least some miles across. Multi-mile asteroid traveling at 2,400,000 miles and hour hitting the moon? Not even sure there would still be a moon left in orbit, enough debris hitting earth to wipe out all civilization, maybe all multicellular life.

Fake, fake, fake.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
May 8, 2023 2:25 pm

Anybody heard from Stucky lately?

Svarga Loka
Svarga Loka
  Iska Waran
May 8, 2023 2:41 pm

Nope.

BL the anti-socialist
BL the anti-socialist
  Svarga Loka
May 8, 2023 5:28 pm

Iska- I saw him on a thread today.

CCRider
CCRider
May 8, 2023 2:37 pm

The obvious lies about WMDs, the debacle of Afghanistan laid bare, two of the 9/11 hijackers were CIA, the Kennedy assassination, and now this. All the chickens are coming home to roost. How much longer before they pull the plug on the entire, worldwide scam?

YourAverageJoe
YourAverageJoe
May 8, 2023 2:52 pm

My favorite space photo
comment image
Zoom in on starboard window.

Earl
Earl
May 8, 2023 2:58 pm

Does the idiot really think that the USSR, China, and a couple of other countries able to track space launches and subsequent orbits at that time (all of whom would have given their mother’s eye teeth to make the USA look foolish) would not have filled the world’s media with proof of the faked landings if there had been any faked landings? Give me a break.

KJ
KJ
  Earl
May 8, 2023 3:40 pm

Money talks, bullshit walks.

Captain_Obviuos
Captain_Obviuos
  Earl
May 8, 2023 8:15 pm

I suppose the thought that all of them could be in it together to make money never crossed your mind, huh?

BabbleOn
BabbleOn
May 8, 2023 3:48 pm

Earth does not have a moon.

Ginger
Ginger
  BabbleOn
May 8, 2023 4:29 pm

There is a moon in the sky, it’s called The Moon.

BabbleOn
BabbleOn
  Ginger
May 8, 2023 4:44 pm

How sure are you about that? Could you describe this “The Moon”?

Ginger
Ginger
  BabbleOn
May 8, 2023 5:14 pm

Well for one thing this thing looks like it just might be called a moon, and another thing it is called “The Moon”, so it has that going for it.
If you ever come across Dean Martin, ask him about it.

I think amore means moon in Italian.

BabbleOn
BabbleOn
  Ginger
May 8, 2023 5:24 pm

Ok, the satellite we label the moon. Why does it not rotate out of its synchronous orbit. Why is it almost perfectly spherical if it does not rotate? Is this satellite natural or not?
Btw amore does not mean Moon.

BL the anti-socialist
BL the anti-socialist
  BabbleOn
May 8, 2023 5:33 pm

Babble- There is a interesting meme that shows 6 or 8 moon photos where the color of the sky shows through the moon perfectly. Years ago I posted that people have photoed the moon with stars showing through the moon’s surface which seems to be the moon is thin and flat.

* watch the down votes pile up on this comment, I.’m just the reporter.

BabbleOn
BabbleOn
  BL the anti-socialist
May 8, 2023 5:55 pm

I actually had written a similar thing asking Ginger if it is spherical or a disk….. but since you chimed in what is your thoughts on our supposed outpost?

BL the anti-socialist
BL the anti-socialist
  BabbleOn
May 8, 2023 6:29 pm

I reserve an opinion but I will point out that in ancient texts the Yin/Yang symbol is actually an overview of the path traveled by the sun and moon within the firmament much as a clockwork type thing. The dot within the white is the sun, the dot within the black is the moon. In other words, the sun and moon travel around the earth and we do not revolve around and with other planets.

BL the anti-socialist
BL the anti-socialist
  BL the anti-socialist
May 8, 2023 6:35 pm

Stucky is cringing right now. He recently admitted that God is AI, I posit it is the “program” in which we are inserted for this lifetime.

BabbleOn
BabbleOn
  BL the anti-socialist
May 8, 2023 6:46 pm

Interesting, so you do not view the firmament as barrier. Neither do I.

BL the anti-socialist
BL the anti-socialist
  BabbleOn
May 8, 2023 6:54 pm

If you are within a simulation, there is no spoon. The intent is that yes, the firmament is a barrier. In ancient texts, the sun and moon move within the firmament.

BabbleOn
BabbleOn
  BL the anti-socialist
May 8, 2023 7:02 pm

A path or limit is not necessarily a barrier that cannot be breached. In my view. So even with objects in the firmament following a preordained path it doesn’t mean it is a barrier, more a medium.

BL the anti-socialist
BL the anti-socialist
  BabbleOn
May 8, 2023 7:07 pm

It takes guts to accept concepts/constructs, Babble. We are on the verge of being branded fuknuts. 🙂

BabbleOn
BabbleOn
  BL the anti-socialist
May 8, 2023 7:21 pm

“We”? I thought I was already branded one?
But the edge of the ocean is not a barrier though it is a limit of a type of density ending and a different fluid density of for example the atmospheres edge beginning. A barrier or limit but not necessarily one that cannot be breached. Just because a pine cone follows the current does not mean it won’t end up on solid ground. Or flung up into the air.

Aunt Acid
Aunt Acid
  Ginger
May 9, 2023 12:03 am

Dean Martin is the coolest dude ever. Grazie.

PSBindy
PSBindy
  Aunt Acid
May 9, 2023 12:40 pm

Elvis said something very similar to Dean’s teen daughter when they crossed paths at some Hollywood studio.

BabbleOn
BabbleOn
  BabbleOn
May 8, 2023 5:16 pm

How about why would EM want to occupy Mars but not even try for an EPCOT center on “The Moon”?

BabbleOn
BabbleOn
  BabbleOn
May 8, 2023 6:07 pm

Btw Mars is already “Occupied”. Have you guys seen the herds of “animals” and forests?

BL the anti-socialist
BL the anti-socialist
  BabbleOn
May 8, 2023 6:57 pm

Fake and gay? Anything is possible in a simulation.

BabbleOn
BabbleOn
  BL the anti-socialist
May 8, 2023 7:05 pm

Not fake, though who knows I didn’t stick around to find out if they were gay.

YourAverageJoe
YourAverageJoe
  BabbleOn
May 8, 2023 10:16 pm

It’s a constantly waxing and waning blob of light that make the seas rise and fall on a predictable schedule.

falconflight
falconflight
  BabbleOn
May 8, 2023 5:21 pm

The Earth is flat.

BabbleOn
BabbleOn
  falconflight
May 8, 2023 6:24 pm

And surrounded by Barbed Wire.

falconflight
falconflight
  BabbleOn
May 8, 2023 6:34 pm

Kows will go over the edge without it.

Paleocon
Paleocon
May 8, 2023 4:05 pm

And here we go…

Warren
Warren
May 8, 2023 4:06 pm

We watched the 1969 Moon landing, and my grandmother was like, “It’s fake, it’s all fake”, turns out she was right, Gramma knew, she did have a pretty well developed BS detector, probably from having raised a bunch of sons .

Paleocon
Paleocon
  Warren
May 8, 2023 4:09 pm

A large percentage of the American population thought it was fake.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Warren
May 8, 2023 6:22 pm

My family still had Black and White TV so it was harder to tell if it was real or not. My parents were very frugal and wouldn’t ever buy a new TV until the old one quit working.

Guest
Guest
  Warren
May 8, 2023 7:26 pm

Same here!

Paleocon
Paleocon
May 8, 2023 4:08 pm

The former head of Russia’s Roscosmos space agency, Dmitry Rogozin, has expressed doubt that the US Apollo 11 mission really landed on the Moon in 1969, saying he has yet to see conclusive proof.

NASA could provide the proof. Oh wait, everything was destroyed. Now we have to start from scratch.

Steve Z.
Steve Z.
May 8, 2023 4:29 pm

I believed it at the time and for many years afterward. Then, I saw through all the BS thrown at us. The totality of the evidence for and against, falls VERY HEAVILY on it being another farce played on the US population and the world. Only because we want to believe can we hold on to the delusion of a moon landing. IT WAS JUST ANOTHER PSY-OP in a HUGE list of lies we’re told.
I don’t know anyone who has read “Wagging the Moon Doggie” and still believes. Because you can’t…

Wagging the Moondoggie

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Steve Z.
May 8, 2023 6:33 pm

True… I was skeptical but after reading that website and actually seeing the Lander, it’s too obvious. Tin foil and duct tape… plus it re-launched from the lunar surface, without thrust and primitive navigation and supposedly re-docked with the orbiting capsule perfectly and then just flew home!

Our furthest missions now are 200 miles above the atmosphere.. the moon is 300,000 miles!

Lucredius
Lucredius
  Steve Z.
May 9, 2023 12:42 pm

I’ve read everything on Dave’s site, an excellent writer and an awesome intellect, RIP!

Just yesterday I asked a buddy (78 yrs old) if he believed the ‘legend’. He responded “I used to, and I worked for NASA at the time”! Something to chew upon…

Peace, L.

Anonymous
Anonymous
May 8, 2023 5:16 pm

I always fly my tin foil and roofing paper covered cardboard box to the moon.

k31
k31
  Anonymous
May 8, 2023 6:25 pm

I have never seen you there.

falconflight
falconflight
May 8, 2023 5:19 pm

So finally the USSR/Russians and CCP are bucking their decades of sucking off Uncle Sam?

Captain_Obviuos
Captain_Obviuos
  falconflight
May 8, 2023 7:48 pm

Not hardly.

If they were really honest they would admit the entire Space Race nonsense was an American scam, with Soviet help, just like Vietnam itself.

The unspeakable Vietnam atrocities, both to the Slants and to us, shown daily on TV was causing serious public blowback; people were starting to demand our troops be withdrawn. That could not be allowed to happen. We were losing our asses over there. They had to come up with a distraction, double-time, and something big enough to get Vietnam off the front pages for a while.

Thus, the curiously-timed “moon landings,” each happening after a Vietnam atrocity, using supposed technology never before seen or heard of, which was just what the doctor ordered: the USA doing something successful, and all the patriotic foofaraw that came with it. (Here’s a thought: if they had all this marvelous technology and could get men to the fucking moon, why could we not have used it on Vietnam as well? Would that not have been a better usage of vital resources?)

And by the way, Stanley Kubrick, who received major government assistance in getting “2001: A Space Odyssey” made — he started filming it in 1964 — was available, of course; some have even speculated that is the entire reason behind doing that movie in the first place (why that one, out of all the others Kubrick could have made?), to perfect the photographic technology, aka fakery, which would later be used. Above all, Kubrick was a photographer initially, and a cinematographer later, and a master at both. He absolutely directed and photographed all the moon landing footage on soundstages and in the SW desert, then using the same visual effects wizards who made “2001” they made history. Kubrick dropped hints about the moon landings in his later movies, too; the raving bum in “A Clockwork Orange,” Kubrick’s next movie after “2001,” makes a scoffing reference to “men on the moon” in his drunken rant in the movie’s opening minutes; why would he do that? Most interesting, yes?

Oh, and for Kubrick’s outstanding work, he received an unprecedented lifetime contract from Warner Bros. which stated they would fund and release any future movies he made, sight unseen. Cuz directors get those sorts of things (cue: Writer’s Strike).

NASA is now and always has been a DoD psyop to bilk money from us for more defense spending, using the best visual artists they could hire to get the jobs done.

mark
mark
  Captain_Obviuos
May 8, 2023 9:25 pm

Massively incisive angle to just another dangle of the GLOBALIST (every pun intended) force fed population of awakening suspicious Truman’s.

EVERYTHING IS A LIE…if it comes from TLPTB (L=Luciferian)…governments…EVERYTHING.

Captain_Obviuos
Captain_Obviuos
  mark
May 8, 2023 11:03 pm

You are so right, mark.

It gets so tiresome trying to wake up people who are sleeping and don’t want to be bothered.

i forget
i forget
  Captain_Obviuos
May 8, 2023 11:26 pm

but sleep deprivation is a recipe for ill health.

Ginger
Ginger
  i forget
May 9, 2023 5:46 am

“Let sleeping dogs lie” grandma always said.
That and “dont’t drink liquor and eat watermelon at the same time”.

i forget
i forget
  Ginger
May 9, 2023 1:24 pm

pretty sure i have seen liquor being ladled out of a watermelon. or maybe the melon was tapped & it was pouring out. I might have dreamed it. Or it might have been at a party I worked. lol….

falconflight
falconflight
  Captain_Obviuos
May 8, 2023 10:09 pm

So the Cold War, Nukes, and Communism are also well- crafted BS to stampede the herds to and fro.

Captain_Obviuos
Captain_Obviuos
  falconflight
May 8, 2023 10:49 pm

Despite evidence to the contrary.

i forget
i forget
  Captain_Obviuos
May 8, 2023 11:47 pm

vietnam, tv’s, distractions …

Anonymous
Anonymous
May 8, 2023 6:19 pm

I know we where on the moon, I saw it on TV! (sarc)

Anonymous
Anonymous
May 8, 2023 7:56 pm

The backpack on the so called astronaut is almost 1/3rd the size of the alleged ” lander ”

Even as a kid , and the son of mechanics , I said no-FFF-ing way.

This does not even account for the heat exchange X weight X water load to make the math work, to keep the astro-fake cool .

The True Nolan
The True Nolan
May 8, 2023 10:36 pm

Of course we went to the Moon. How do I know? The weather.

The weather has been much worse ever since we stopped launching moon rockets.

The True Nolan
The True Nolan
May 8, 2023 10:41 pm

Any country that can put a satellite around the Moon can (any time they wish) verify that the moon landings took place. Yes, you cannot see from Earth telescopes what the sites look like, but even a relatively small telescope from a 60 mile altitude orbit around the Moon could see plenty of detail, probably even the foot prints.

Aunt Acid
Aunt Acid
May 9, 2023 12:06 am

You had to go there, Mr Rogozin, didn’t you?