Stucky Ponders The Meaning Of Life For The Millionth Time

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PART ONE – TRAVAILS
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Out of the clear blue, SJ (my schizo son) decided Michigan was no longer a good place for him to live.

He decided to go back to Bellingham, Washington. He took his back-pack, filled it with some fruit and granola bars. In terms of clothes, he had nothing except what he was wearing. A not-so-warm leather jacket, no hat, no gloves, no scarf, and no sweater to keep him warm.

He also didn’t have a dime in his pocket. And I mean that literally. He does have a credit card but it has a limit of only $200 … and it was maxed out. In terms of getting money for the bus ticket from MI to WA ($250), he used his mother’s credit card. I guess that’s called stealing.

He did take his cell phone. He is not aware that his mother is able to track his location if the phone is on. He didn’t call for a few days, so his mother called him. When she saw he was in Chicago, she panicked, and called him while being careful not to disclose that she already knew where he was. He said he was walking around Grand Rapids. I guess that’s called lying. Anyway, she was able to track his westward travels… from Grand Rapids, to Chicago, to Minneapolis.

He called me about a half hour after his mother called him. By then I already knew where he was. But I pretended I didn’t. He lied to me also. But then I heard a voice in the background …. “I’m sorry sir, but your bus leaves at 9:30PM.”. When he got back on the phone, I told him that I heard the background voice. I finally got him to admit that he was at a Greyhound terminal and that he was heading out to Bellingham, Washington. “What will you do for food??”, I asked. “Beg, or play my guitar.”, he said. I tried not to cry.

The next day we see he’s in Minneapolis. We call constantly. He doesn’t pick up. Then around 2AM we get a phone call. I see from the caller id that it’s the Minny police department. This can’t be good. It turns out the Minny Greyhound station does not stay open all night. SJ’s bus doesn’t leave until the next morning. The Greyhound station is in a very bad neighborhood. SJ was just walking aimlessly around. The police tell us he was mugged and beat up. The cop wouldn’t give me ANY more information other than the hospital they took him too … and he said he shouldn’t have even told me that. Nice. I call the hospital. The ONLY info they give me was confirmation that he was admitted. They give me absolutely nothing else, despite my pleadings as his father. Tough shit. Something about confidentiality laws. The government can spy on me with impunity but I can’t get even basic information about my son’s condition. Amazing.

I fly out to Minny within 48 hours. By the time I get to the hospital, SJ has already left. He snuck out. No one is willing to give me information. Again with the privacy laws. I told the doctor that if he didn’t tell me right then and there what SJ was treated for, that I would rip his heart out and stick it in his mouth before he could even dial 9-1-1. I’m pretty sure I meant it. Apparently so did the doctor, so he gave me some info. No major injuries. Lots of bruising, minor lacerations, swollen face and some treatment for minor frostbite. (What the fuck is “minor” frostbite?). The nurse actually asked me where she should send the bill. I told her to stick it up her ass and walk the bill to New Jersey. Then I left. Quickly.

I hung around Minny for another half a day because the phone showed he was there. I kept calling the number and finally it is answered … by a voice I don’t recognize. It was a teenager. Turns out SJ sold him his very expensive phone for $40, so he could buy food. The kid was very apologetic and worried that he did the “wrong” thing and he was scared he’d get in trouble. I assured him this was not the case. I asked him if I sent him the $40 bucks would he please send the phone back? He said “sure”, and we got the phone back.

Fast forward. Several days later we hear from SJ. He borrowed someone’s cell phone. He’s in Spokane, WA. He says he made a big mistake. Can he come home? We immediately go online and get him a ticket to Grand Rapids. Another $250. It’s 2PM. He’s supposed to leave at 5:30PM. We get a call at 7PM. He says he fell asleep and missed the bus. The next bus doesn’t leave until the following morning. Fortunately, that Greyhound bus station stays open all night.

We call the number back about an hour later. A black man answers. We ask if SJ borrowed his phone, and if so, in what kind of condition did SJ appear. The man’s name is Kevin. “Yes”, he says, SJ borrowed his phone. He looks pretty tired and “lost”. Kevin says that SJ is sleeping nearby and that he (Kevin) is “watching over him”. It turns out that Kevin is traveling to Cleveland, so he’ll be on the entire trip with SJ. He tells us “not to worry”. He says he is “a god-fearing man”, and that he’ll watch over Sam the whole trip to Chicago like “he was my own son”. I thank him profusely and offer him money for his troubles. He will hear none of it. I hang up and I cry like a baby … amazed and overwhelmed at this incredible act of kindness from a total stranger.

Very fast forward. SJ is back in Grand Rapids. About 6 days ago SJ calls me to tell him he is “disappearing”. He sounds very sad. As always the phone “conversations” — if you can call them that — are very short before he hangs up. I take his statement about “disappearing” metaphorically .. as in, the real me is no longer here, I don’t really know who I am anymore — that kind of thing. Nevertheless, I call his mother. His mother calls SJ and get’s him to agree to meet her in a coffee shop. His mom gets there. They talk for a while. Then she asks what’s in the brown paper bag (like a brown grocery bag with handles) he’s carrying with him. He doesn’t answer. She says, “let me look”. He just shrugs his shoulders. She looks. In the bag is a bunch of fruit and granola bars. Goddammit!!! He meant “disappearing” literally!! This time he is going to San Francisco.

His mom calls me immediately. She’s freaking out. Understandable. Hell, I’m freaking out. What can we do??? He’s 6’2 and muscular. His mom sure as hell can’t hold him there. And we sure as hell can’t let him leave … again … with no money or clothes or anything. One of these days the call from the police will be, “Stucky, your son is dead.” Soooo … loathe as I am to do so …. we decided to have him committed. I stalled him as long as I could, then his brother showed up and stalled him. They were able to convince SJ to stay for the evening at his mom’s house for “just one more day”. Meanwhile, his mom was making phone calls to the judge (she knows the judge personally), social agencies, hospital, etc. In short, she was able to get a court-order to have SJ committed in less than 24 hours.

They picked him up at the house in the morning. SJ went peacefully …. in handcuffs. But he looked at his mother and said, “Thanks mom. I can’t believe you did this to me again.”. His mom said she cried as she watched the police take him away. But the facility is nearby and top notch. I told her at least we can get a decent night sleep for the first time in a month knowing where our son is and that he’s in the best possible care. Oh, if only that were true.

He broke out of the facility that evening. Threw a chair through the 2nd floor window and jumped. The police came … with dogs. SJ even got his 15 minutes of fame. He made the TV News!! Woohoo, my son made the big time! Well, about 12 hours later they caught him. So, this time they put him in a room with bars. When did their 1AM bed-check they found SJ trying to escape again …. He already had two of the metal bars removed. He’s very persistent. Maybe they’ll make a movie about him some day.

Anyway, he’s now safely tucked away in a room with no windows. I keep having this fear that I’ll be getting a phone call; “Mr. Stucky, you son escaped by eating through the concrete ceiling.”. He’s very resourceful when he needs to be.

He calls me several times a day. Sometimes the phone calls are kind of funny. Yesterday he tried to talk me into helping him escape. He wants me to help him escape to Austria to live with my relatives there. I told him he can’t even speak German and his Tante Linde doesn’t speak English. “No problem”, he says. He feels he can learn German in the next couple weeks before I help him break out. That’s some funny shit there.

I live in terror of the telephone. I now consider it a terrorist device, like an Iraqi IED. What horrible new revelations await when I pick up? I didn’t have to wait long for the latest bad news. Just this morning I was informed they’ll be releasing SJ. They can only hold if they feel he’s a danger to himself or others. And since he hasn’t threatened to kill himself or others they have to let him go. I’m tempted to call and let them know this kid is ripping my heart out and doesn’t that count for something?

I’ll probably go out to Michigan soon. I’m guess I’m going to wow everyone with my personality, cross my arms and blink like I-Dream-Of-Jeannie and make everything better. Ms. Freud suggested I just stay out there. I think she was only half-kidding. This has been quite a strain on our relationship.

But mostly, the phone calls are sad. He blames me for turning him in. Says I’m a traitor. Says he would have never taken drugs in the first place if I were a better father in the first place. Says he hates me and never wants to talk to me again. Says who the hell am I to give him advice considering how I messed up my own life and the family. Says I’m a huge failure, and a hypocrite. Then he hung up.

Well, I know that this isn’t the real SJ talking. It’s the drugs. It’s his own anger and issues. But, it still stings. And I do believe – as I suppose any parent does — that I could have done a better job, and that maybe, indeed, I have failed him to some degree. It wouldn’t be fair for me to tell HIM to accept responsibility for his life while at the same time denying that MY parenting skills had nothing to do with his life today.

I wish I could do things over again. I have all these regrets. I would be a better dad the 2nd time around.

But we don’t get 2nd chances, do we? So I’ve been thinking …. what can I do so that whatever remaining years I have left aren’t filled with even more regrets?

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PART TWO – PESPECTIVE
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Have you ever had one of those life-altering events that make you suddenly realize what’s really important in life vs. the triviality we THOUGHT was important? Quite often those type of moments are the result of a near-death experience. Perhaps you narrowly averted a head-on collision by mere inches. Or, perhaps someone you love is suddenly diagnosed with a horrible disease.

It seems people grow a lot when they are faced with their own mortality, or the mortality of a loved one. There was a study done of 50 people over the age of 95 who were asked what they would do differently if they had life to live over again. I think we can learn much from older folks. Here are the common themes.

1. “I wish I’d had the courage to live a life true to myself, not the life others expected of me.”

This was the most common regret. When people realize that their life is almost over and look back clearly on it, it is easy to see how many dreams have gone unfulfilled. Most people had not honored even half of their dreams and had to die knowing that it was due to choices they had made, or not made. It is very important to try and honor at least some of your dreams along the way. From the moment that you lose your health, it is too late. Health brings a freedom very few realize, until they no longer have it.

2. “I wish I didn’t work so hard.”

Not one person in a billion on their deathbed regrets that that didn’t work a few more hours of overtime or take a 2nd job. Quite the opposite is the case. Most people deeply regretted spending so much of their lives on the treadmill of a work existence. That is not to say working or making money is unimportant. Clearly, that’s an idiotic statement. But these people realize the even more idiotic thing was working to acquire so many “things” … the very things they would soon leave behind. It just wasn’t worth it, they say.

3.”I wish I had stayed in touch with my friends.”

There were many deep regrets about not giving friendships the time and effort that they deserved. Everyone misses their friends when they are dying. They regretted becoming so caught up in their own lives that they had let golden friendships slip by over the years. It is common for anyone in a busy lifestyle to let friendships slip. A common theme starts to emerge here ….. that is, it is all comes down to love and relationships in the end. That is all that remains in the final weeks — love and relationships.

4. “I wish that I had let myself be happier.”

Many did not realize until the end – until it was too late — that happiness is a choice. They had stayed stuck in old patterns and habits. The so-called ‘comfort’ of familiarity overflowed into their emotions, as well as their physical lives. Fear of change had them pretending to others, and to their selves, that they were content. But deep within, they longed to laugh properly and have silliness in their life again.

5. “I wish I looked for more opportunities to truly live more.”

How long have you lived?

In Thornton Wilder’s play “Our Town”, Emily, the main character dies given birth to a child. In the afterlife the Spirits allow her to return to earth to relive one day of her life. She chooses her 12th birthday. She goes back and watches herself and her family live out that day. They warned her not to do it but she does it anyway. She soon finds out why they told her not to do it because as she watches herself and her family live out that day she is shocked by the fact that they do not enter into the day’s experiences with sufficient appreciation and awareness of how precious this moment is. They just basically go through the motions. She yells at her family (of course they can’t hear her) and she yells at herself and asks … “Don’t you understand?? Don’t you understand you won’t have this moment forever? Don’t you understand that?!” And then she yells at the audience; “Do any of you … do any of you ever really live life when you’re alive?!”

So, “How long have you lived?” is not a question of how many days have gone by since you entered this world. These older folks are talking about those precious times – we’ve all had at least a few – where they felt really … REALLY alive!! All your senses were extra sharp. Reds were redder and blues were bluer. You were totally aware of .. and IN, your environment. You feared nothing. You could conquer anything. In other words, those moments that literally take your breath away. Of course, no one can live every single day like that. But then again, how long did you have to think about your own take-your-breath-away moment? How many do you have? One? Two? A handful? And that’s a shame. These folks realized they could have had many many more such moments, and also let the good feelings last longer, if only they looked for them and let them happen.

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PART THREE – THERE IS NO SHORTAGE OF FREE ADVICE
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So, I’m mulling over all these things in my tiny brain trying to figure out how I should live my life moving forward. And while there are only five measly little concepts listed above, and none of them all that earth shaking, I still find myself a bit overwhelmed. What I need to do is to simply it even further. I want to discover a single Unifying Theme. A simple sentence to live by. Maybe even just a word, or two. I need a Stephen Hawking-like Theory Of Everything that packages all of life’s complexities in a nice little box. This is what tiny brains need and want.

Faith.

I need to let Jesus in my heart. That’s what SJ’s mom, the ex-Mrs. Stucky, says I need. Every single phone call ends the same way. A little mini sermon. “We serve an awesome and mighty God.” “SJ is in God’s care.” “God knows even the number of hairs on SJ’s head and He surely knows where SJ is and how to take care of him.”. I just listen politely. That is, until I hear this one, “This is all in God’s plan.”. Oh, really? Sooo, billions of years ago when God formed the earth – or was it just 6,000 years ago — God had this plan to allow my son to have the gift of schizophrenia, and then in his 27th year of life he would get the shit kicked out of him by some thugs in Minneapolis? Is that the plan, Stan? If so, count me out. I am not anti-Jesus – if she wants to believe that I don’t care – but, it’s not for me. I’ve been there and done that. You can’t put toothpaste back in the tube. There’s no going back.

DN – SJ’s brother – suggests a different kind of faith. While still having religious overtones, it’s more a “spiritual” type of faith without a personal deity. Destiny. A Higher Power. It’s kind of like The Force in Star Wars. There’s Good. There’s Evil. We just need to believe that Good will prevail. The only problem with that is …. Darth Vader is my favorite character. I can’t be relying on some nebulous esoteric “force” to give me answers. Not unless Obi Wan Kenobe comes walking through the door.

Ms. Freud – my psychologist significant other – has even more ideas regarding the faith I need. Faith in myself. The Power of Positive Thinking. Building up my self-esteem. Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. And all other kinds of psycho-babble crapola. But doesn’t faith require at least a little bit of “mystery”? The Bible tells us faith is hoping for things unseen. The problem with the “believing in myself” line of thinking is that I have seen both the light AND the blackness of my soul. There is no mystery there. It ain’t a pretty sight. In fact, believing in myself is the very thing that got me to the point where I am now! I’m stuck in an endless loop. No! I need a better god than myself. Trust me.

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PART FOUR – EUREKA!!
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The ex-Mrs. Stucky was giving me one of her mini-sermons, one I heard a thousand times before …. how SJ won’t find any peace in his heart until he stops running from God. Much to my chagrin I actually thought about that for quite a while after we hung up. A million seemingly random thoughts were swirling around in my head until they gradually coalesced into one single word.

Surrender.

I am not talking about surrender in terms of “giving up”. It doesn’t mean lying around in bed all day or moping around the house.

I am not talking about surrender in terms of its religious connotations, even though the general concept is somewhat similar to that old-time religious hymn, “I surrender all”. (That hymn talks about surrendering all to Jesus.)

So, what is surrender? It’s a prayer and a state of mind.

The prayer goes something like this; “I surrender. But, I’m going to do everything that I can do. And when I’m done doing all I can do, I will leave the result in your hands. It’s OK!”

So I will continue to talk to SJ a thousand times a day, about the same topics, and with the same advice until I turn blue in the face. That’s OK. I will continue to talk to his doctors, and nurses, and his mother, his brother, Ms Freud, his grandparents, and all the people in the state bureaucracy doing all I can to encourage and motivate until I’m blue in the face. That’s OK. I’m going to continue to support SJ financially whenever I can even though I’m pretty sure the money is often pissed away. That’s OK. And, if, ten years from now he is still in the same state of mind that he’s in today, well … that’s OK too. I did all I could. I surrendered.

It doesn’t matter who the “you” is in the prayer above. The ‘you” isn’t key. Surrendering is. Is there a Higher Power, a personal one (like Jesus) or impersonal one (like The Force)? Who really knows? I’m not really concerned with what “name” is given to this “you”. All I know is I can’t control everything. My “prayer” is simply my reminder to me to do all I can … and then let it go.
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The other liberating aspect of surrendering is that it totally frees me from the prison-chains of expectation.

Looking back on my life it seems a huge portion of it was driven by expectations. I was expected to get good grades in school and go to college. There was the expectation to get a good paying job. Get married. Have kids. Get a house. Acquire stuff. Pay the bills. Save for retirement. Be fulfilled with all of this. Live a “normal” life. Not that there’s anything wrong with any of that.

But I wonder how much did I limit myself by having these expectations … these mental constructs of how life “should” turn out? I wonder who imposed these expectations on me? Myself? My parents? My teachers? Society? I actually achieved most of my expectations, but at what cost? Did I chain myself to a way of living that didn’t necessarily suit me? Am I more unhappy with expectations not met … or those that I did meet? Don’t expectations inevitably lead to disappointment?

And now I suppose I have expectations that SJ will get better because, dadgummit, we’re doing all the right things to make sure he gets better!! But what if SJ himself doesn’t want to get better?? Doesn’t a mentally ill person have the right to stay mentally ill, or must they conform to society’s expectation to conform and “get better”? It seems SJ is hellbent on living the life he CHOOSES. I can’t force him to meet my expectations. He has a right to his own life choices. I just need to find the grace, and power, to accept his choices. I’m tired of fighting the heartache.

You know what? I am friggin sick and tired of all these expectations imposed on me and that I impose on others. So, I am going to liberate myself from them by throwing them ALL out. I’m not going to live up to SJ’s expectations, Ms. Freud’s expectations, the world’s expectations, or even my own expectations. Screw that. I’m going to do all that I can and then simply allow each day to unfold however it may. One day at a time, Stucky. One day at a time. For the first time in my life I’m going to live the life I want, without expectations. It’s all I can do. I surrender.
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In closing, I hope it’s obvious that I’m not trying to convince anyone that I have “arrived” or that I have the answers … or, that I’m even correct in my thinking. I’m probably full of shit and mentally ill myself. I mostly wrote this for myself. It’s cathartic. Writing helps me slow down my mind. It helps me “see” my brain. I probably would have written this to myself if I didn’t have my TBP friends to share with. Many of you have been wonderfully supportive. I can’t thank you enough.

Author: Stucky

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Administrator
Administrator
January 20, 2012 2:04 pm

Stuck

You’ve really been through the ringer. Don’t blame yourself for your son’s illness. His words were coming from his sickness, not his heart.

I read a book over the Christmas break that helped me break out of my funk – The Art of Happiness by the Dali Lama and a psychologist.

It doesn’t have all the answers but it has suggestions on how to approach life on a daily basis. It might help you.

I think your day by day approach is best. You can only give this life your best shot and let the chips fall where they may.

I hope your son finds peace.

KaD
KaD
January 20, 2012 2:08 pm

Well thought out, Stucky. Surrender is a viable and sometimes sanity saving option when you realize you can’t help someone who doesn’t want your help and you can’t fix everything or everyone. I remember a story about a young man with severe schizophrenia. He got to the point where he lived under a bridge. He somehow got on medication, got himself cleaned up, got through college and became a doctor. There’s still hope while he’s alive; and if someday he’s gone there’s still the fact that you’ll see each other again in the best possible light. I wish you both, and all involved in this crisis, the best possible.

bman
bman
January 20, 2012 2:50 pm

First, thanks for the story. I believe many of us live the same kind of lives. Having my own “disease of distorted perceptions”, I’ve found the 12 steps (of AA, Al-anon, etc.) to bring me back to a more serene perspective, assuming I actually work them. If you are at all familiar, we know that step One states that we are powerless over “_________”, and our life had become unmanageable.”

Stucky, you’ve taken the first step already by realizing surrender is the only option. Bravo, thats the first and most important step!

I just finished a great book on this topic by Richard Rohr, “Breathing Under Water: Spirituality and the Twelve Steps.” I found the link between Us, our helplessness to control others, and the ‘Spirit’ as you mentioned, all have a purpose in this life.

AWD
AWD
January 20, 2012 3:00 pm

Great stuff, Stuckenlearner. You’re learning. God/higher power/great spirit/Buddha/Dali lama/Tao has a way of sticking life lesson in, disturbing your comfort zone. Every seemingly bad event can be turned to positive. Your surrender, acceptance, and loss of expectations is one of the highest lessons. Growing is painful, but we’re only here to learn a few lessons, then move on in spirit to something else, hopefully better. That’s the same process drug addicts and alcoholics go through; surrender, acceptance and getting in touch with something greater who can solve the problem.

I chased my dad around trying to get him to quit drinking, then I had to give up on him, I turned him over to something greater. And all the rest of my problems. Expectations are killers, for real and unquestionably. So your learning something, a hard life lesson. But your coming out the other side awakened to something greater. The more you hang on and fight it, the worse it gets. I still do prayer and meditation, because they work, tapping into the power. SJ is not your son, you didn’t create him and you didn’t create his soul. Some souls are more tortured than others, but it takes what it takes to awaken. You can’t hinder that process. You just have to let go. Ah, more cheap advice. Amazing experience, pain transformed into awakening. Your a lucky man indeed.

John
John
January 20, 2012 3:04 pm

Stucky,

Never commented here before but a long time reader. Your story moved me and and made me rethink my relationship with my family.

I just wanted to thank you and let you know you inspired me today to make a change.

bman
bman
January 20, 2012 3:17 pm

Expectations = premeditated resentments.

And, “Deep communion and dear compassion is formed much more by shared pain than by shared pleasure.”

doglover
doglover
January 20, 2012 3:30 pm

Please don’t blame yourself . If you were perfect , you would be divine . None of us has had ” the perfect childhood “. It does not exist . A psychiatrist once told me that if you look far enough back in anyone’s geneology , you will find mental illness of some sort . He was absolutely right . Remember the serenity prayer . Do what you can , but beyond that , leave it up to God . I know , easier said than done .

Thinker
Thinker
January 20, 2012 3:39 pm

Nothing I could add to the brilliant comments already here. But do know you’re in our thoughts and prayers and that we’re all pulling for you. Even willing to help out, if there’s anything we can do.

Take care of yourself. You can’t be there for anyone else until you take care of you. AWD is right about finding your own Qi. It’s a powerful thing, once you’ve learned how it works and to just go with it.

Kill Bill
Kill Bill
January 20, 2012 3:40 pm

Well. I am not going to give anyone advice on what to do with their kids or what faith they should follow.

At one time I wanted to ‘go away’

No one could change me, until I wanted to change.

That sounds a bit crass, its not meant to be, but that is the honest truth.

AWD
AWD
January 20, 2012 3:57 pm

The Iowan pig farmer has a pretty large pair to post such a personal story. Well done!

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Administrator
Administrator
January 20, 2012 4:00 pm

Stuck

I think everything can be traced back to that practical joke you played on him as a child.

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Sorry about that, but this is TBP.

Dragline
Dragline
January 20, 2012 4:05 pm

Sorry about your son. I am used to dealing with mentally ill family members and can relate. Honestly , you never know what is going to happen with them and you never have any control over it. If they don’t take meds or take the wrong ones, they are often in alternative realities. Can’t tell you how many strange voice mails i have from certain people about FBI, CIA and other conspiracies against them, among other strange tales and ideas.

I second doglover on the serenity prayer. Say it every time you deal with SJ:

“God grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.”

And appreciate the normal people in your life.

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
January 20, 2012 4:09 pm

May the “Force” be with you.

Sometimes I think that I “think” too much. For me, your story and your conclusions are certainly worthy of more thought.
I_S

Lurker
Lurker
January 20, 2012 4:33 pm

Thank you.

King-shat
King-shat
January 20, 2012 4:35 pm

God speed.

Wyoming Mike
Wyoming Mike
January 20, 2012 4:43 pm

God Bless Stuck!!! You are one of my heroes. Never afraid to stick your nose in fighting for right, and always honest about the result.

Thank you for the very personal story and good luck! You got it right, you can only do what you can do.

AKAnon
AKAnon
January 20, 2012 4:46 pm

Thanks for sharing, Stuck. Sorry things have to be so painful, but it is what it is-just keep on truckin’. And I’m sure I speak for a bunch of folks here, at least you had a good excuse for your recent absence from TBP. We’ll let you slide-this time. Next time you’ll need to bring a note from home.

Hope@ZeroKelvin
Hope@ZeroKelvin
January 20, 2012 5:00 pm

O.M.G. Stuck!!!

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You are on the right path with your “surrender” idea. You can only do the best you can with what you have at the time, period – and then you just have to let it go, trust in a higher power, karma, fate, lady luck, whatever.

Otherwise you will bash yourself to death on the rocks of everybody else’s expectations as well as your own.

Damn, Stuck, sending you a positive energy thought right now – kapow!!!

Amos Turtle
Amos Turtle
January 20, 2012 5:02 pm

Sorry about your son, Stuck. I deal with mentally ill people often, hauling them to court or mental hospitals or jail cells. We see the same people again and again, like some sort of tragic treadmill of life. I wish there was some magic pill that could cure these folks, they just break your heart.

llpoh
llpoh
January 20, 2012 6:33 pm

Good luck Stuck. I have had a lot of expposure to this stuff. It is very hard. In the end t depends on how much pain you can tolerate. You simply cannot fix what you cannot fix.

Glad to hear from you.

Kill Bill
Kill Bill
January 20, 2012 6:51 pm

Sometimes I think that I “think” too much. – Indentured.

I have this problem as well, Most noticeable when its time to sleep and the ol hamster wheel wont stop turning.

Kill Bill
Kill Bill
January 20, 2012 6:54 pm

Surrender. -Stucky

Perhaps ‘realization’ is a better word for it.

Cynical30
Cynical30
January 20, 2012 7:04 pm

Bendición Stucky. Certainly courageous to tell this story on here, regardless of the anonimity of the internet. Still, very valuable that you did, because so many of us are so lost or looking for happiness in all the wrong places. Hearing your story really puts things into perspective for us. I hope your son can get control of his demons and your family finds peace.

Punk in Drublic
Punk in Drublic
January 20, 2012 7:08 pm

Stucky

Nice to hear from you.

I have been dealing with a bunch of shit in my own life lately. Seems I am falling short of my own expectations, as well as the expectations of others.

Surrender…. I think you have hit on something truly profound.

Thanks.

Good luck with your son, my heart goes out you and him.

efarmer
efarmer
January 20, 2012 7:28 pm

Cripes. Thanks for putting life into perspective.

I wish you the best.

EF

flash
flash
January 20, 2012 7:39 pm

Wow Stuck, I’m in awe…way to get the weight off your chest. I’ve never put much thought into it , but writing about your personal shitstorm , may just be the first step in accepting surrender.(BTW, I’ve read that spiritual surrender/acceptance was how the Japanese learned to deal with what happened to them at the close of WII….how else?

But I digress.
I’m really impressed .You’ll be fine and both you and your son are will be in my prayers.

BTW # 2, I too have schizophrenic family members on both mine and my wife’s side….thing i’ve noticed is they become more stable as they age, but still retain that magic that makes you laugh. …matter of fact , I enjoy being around those my family label “mentally ill a heluva’ lot more than the rest of the conniving assholes who claim to be sane.
At family reunions always head to the “crazies” table….they always are the loudest and most jovial , while the butt sniffers with the furrowed stifle whispers.

God gave you the gift of a son.He may be more perfect than you can know.

Best wishes and good luck.

SSS
SSS
January 20, 2012 7:46 pm

Stucky

Lots of well wishes and some advice to your sad post. Who is the shitbag who posted thumbs down on every comment up until Hope?

I read this …….. twice. Here’s my best shot.

1. Love for your son. Always show it. Always.

2. Shelter and food for your son. Unless there is an element of personal safety involved, always provide it. Always.

3. Money. Aye, matey. There’s the rub. If financial support of Situation X (fill in the blank) doesn’t jeopardize YOUR future financial security, do it. If it does, don’t.

With my utmost respect and sympathy,
SSS

Muck About
Muck About
January 20, 2012 8:33 pm

Simply put; thanks for sharing, Stuck.

I wish you all the best of what’s left of our time here. Never stop exploring. Never stop loving – especially Ms. Freud, as I know from past posts how much love there is there between you. Treasure it.

It boils down to the fact that every individual human being must be responsible for his/her actions. If that human being is damaged mentally or physically, then it is up to us to assist in whatever way we can – but you cannot help shit if you feel guilty about a lack of good outcome. A good outcome depends on someone else and you cannot take responsibility for the actions of others – even your son.

You have it nailed.

I read a book by Eckhart Tolle called “The New Earth” some years ago and found it to be worthwhile.

Best, my friend..

MA

Novista
Novista
January 20, 2012 9:21 pm

Welcome back, Stuck, and thank you

Many good suggestions here and I will offer another:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality_therapy

I learned of this from a friend trained in this style of counseling. It evolved into “choice theory” later. One of Glasser’s books I read had the little example of the approach:

1. What do you want?
2. What are you doing to achieve it?
3. Is it working?

So fundamental that reality could bite, but only if the person is open to it. But an individual has to be truthful with himself to truly answer the questions. In denial, and rejecting the very idea, they go on their misguided way until the consequences reveal themselves. You’re not the only one with a problem family member. At least mine was not schizophrenic (tho what other issues lurk there is still a puzzle!)

Maybe the most important lesson in life is that the only thing you can control really is yourself.

Punk in Drublic
Punk in Drublic
January 20, 2012 9:29 pm

“These older folks are talking about those precious times – we’ve all had at least a few – where they felt really … REALLY alive!! All your senses were extra sharp. Reds were redder and blues were bluer. You were totally aware of .. and IN, your environment. You feared nothing. You could conquer anything. In other words, those moments that literally take your breath away. ”

Oh man….
My first cinematic dragon kill, about 20 hours into playing Skyrim. That was the shit. If I could just hold onto that feeling…
[img]https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQcNQpxwkGAk738NP9SGXV17ZT_VexgLiy0Nyk7FsxN2muSalh6[/img]

Colma Rising
Colma Rising
January 20, 2012 10:01 pm

Her Stuchenmeister:

You’re a champ.

Sounds like a lot of shit just fell right in your lap, and there’s not much more to say than what the TBPers have wished for you.

Looking inward is never fun… not if you’re doing it right… but doing so holds it’s own reward.

Again, you are a champ.

I shall drink to your endeavors…

Mary Malone
Mary Malone
January 20, 2012 10:49 pm

@Stucky

Glad you’re back and had the courage to pour your heart out to us.

What everyone else said +1,000

howard in nyc
howard in nyc
January 21, 2012 12:23 am

stuck

best wishes. i am humbled and honored you choose to share such intimate difficulties and struggles with us, your internet friends.

your words touch me, allow me to relate to similar feelings and questions, as well as to consider quite different circumstances in my own life.

thank you once more for sharing.

Welshman
Welshman
January 21, 2012 11:15 am

Good Read Stuck,

You are on the right track, and you still have your sense of humor. Hang in there big guy.

Nomad
Nomad
January 21, 2012 11:17 am

Well Stucky..my mother is a schizophrenic and as a parent I know you want to believe you could have made it all better…Well my friend had you been father of the year or left him when he was 1 you would have a son who is schizophrenic. People don’t like the answer I don’t know what caused it. The closest we can come is to know what didn’t cause it. The way you raised your son didn’t cause it. That I know. I have lived with a schizophrenic mother for 53 years so I got some time on you. So I think maybe you could have been a better father if you say so…but hell you were probably a lot better than many…so lets just say we will give you at least a C in the father department and thats not bad. So Stucky good luck from my experience schizophrenics do not like to takle their medicine and I guess they don’t like to be what we refer to as normal..but let me tell you being normal isn’t all it’s cracked up to be either or neither one of would be writting if it were the panacea! So take it one day at a time and I will join you on that path….Oh and by the way with expectations department I strongly suggest to keep them to a minimum with SJ. All my mother has to do is tale Haldol once a day and she isn’t crazy…well guess what she’s crazy as bat shit and not a damn thing I can do about it. It may sound cold, but it;’s just out of my hands and I let go a long time ago.
Schizophrenics are the roughest mental illness to deal with from my experience, but then again someone who is those black chronic depressions may disagree and they may be right. All I do know is love SJ in heart, do your best to be patient and remeber you didn’t cause it and you can’t fix it. Good Luck!

Jack of Hearts
Jack of Hearts
January 21, 2012 11:19 am

There is an alternative treatment center that claims an 80% success rate with schizophrenics.They use a raw diet.I can’t remember the name because it’s been 4 years since I read about but it’s worth checking out.What have you got to lose?

Jack of Hearts
Jack of Hearts
January 21, 2012 11:23 am

The meds will make him permanently psychotic and there is no cure for that

Me No Likey
Me No Likey
January 21, 2012 11:51 am

Post made me sad. One of the worst things you can tell a parent is that they’re a failure, that you don’t approve of how they raised you, as every parent unconsciously wants to win at parenting. I’ve always made it a point to continually remind my parents of how who they were and what they did added to the quality of my life (which is true).

A very very wise man once said that for everything that’s wonderful about yourself, that you like and love about yourself, you should “blame” your parents. For everything that you hate about yourself, that’s screwed up and you don’t like, blame yourself. By this he meant that our parents are just a couple of people who did the best they could with what they had and what they knew. We took the best of what they taught us and so it adds to us. Today, however, our parents aren’t around in our everyday lives so if there’s something screwed up about us that we don’t like it’s because we haven’t fixed it. It’s called personal responsibility. Brian Tracy says personal responsibility (in every area of life, including business, politics, economics, society) is the crisis of our day.

In the end, nothing is more serious than death anyway…you’ll never be able to think, eat, see, or feel again…one would be wise to soak in life like a paper well (while dancing his/her ass off) in the interim…

thc0655
thc0655
January 21, 2012 1:59 pm

Thanks for sharing Stucky! I have a son about your son’s age who’s fought the same mental health and drug demons. The last three years have been nearly “normal” with only 3 brief relapses, none of which involved getting fired, arrested, hospitalized, thrown out of his apartment or losing an important relationship. I feel your pain. Don’t ever give up on the possibility that he can live a normal or nearly normal and happy life. Most don’t, but some do.

Novista
Novista
January 21, 2012 9:22 pm

Stucky

I just remembered a conversation I heard as bystander, sad, and yet funny …

One bloke said, “My life was ruined because my parents got divorced.”

Another replied, “Huh. Mine didn’t.”

I guess the moral of the story is, parents can’t win, don’t even try. And don’t blame yourself, plenty of other will cover that.

Adam Outlaw
Adam Outlaw
January 22, 2012 1:19 am

Make no mistake we find ourselves in this universe of raw force, a universe that regularly attempts to cave in a good persons dreams if not their vary spirit. The not so secret-secret could be summed up to… that what’s most desirable will be most rare and elusive here.

This tempestuous universe says If diamonds were as common as beach sand then they would hold way less value right? If love, harmony or sanity were a given, then they too might be held a little less highly huh? A strange game we find ourselves in, a universe seemly bent on driving us all mad. A universe that seems to make happiness an endless fight.

These games, traps, test or whatever give choices or excuses depending. One may side with force and behave as a beast… Surviving by strength, deception and predation. While taking ill gotten comforts these souls lose more and more of rarest gifts humanity will ever find in this forsaken construct.

The decidedly evil ones are quite simple to understand, but when I find the conflicted soul I also find what may be viewed as madness personified. Perhaps somewhere way back before all this stuff we now call life there was worlds with near boundless imagination and freedom . One day a few of these free souls decided to play a game where few but the bravest dared. These souls also could not know it was a test or have any fair chance to win it either. The best one could hope for was to do ones best and keep from being devoured by it. No real hope to change it or hope to free every slave bound to it. It was a game of choice and a trial by fire.

The problem with this universe of force that you enter by will without full knowledge you done such a thing is no less than a severe reality shock. Some like myself believe younger souls… those new to this particular spiritual level are caught more so between the two virtually opposite worlds of then & now. They are basically conflicted by the fresh feelings of again wanting boundless imaginative freedom and surviving this new hell. They are the dreamers who refuse to believe all is what it seems, they sometimes hurt others in their pursuit to escape their promises, to escape this test they wish to dismiss. The seemly easy way out in this world equals regrets one will answer for sooner or latter.

One is responsible for self first and center. Secondly one is responsible for others and that includes your son. Responsible means not you carry his burdens as a camel… to dismiss this will bring more suffering sure as rain. Be an evolving example of peace, harmony and love. Be tolerant only of tolerant things. Help SJ find a beneficial creative passion to express his conflicts towards. Listen to him, not merely his words but to all his actions and deeds. Address his rage with patience for in it will hold untruths and slander. Expose the lie that happiness need be rare to hold its value for why not it bloom greater and greater to infinity? This false universe of scarcity creates force of will and proves itself lacking and incomplete!

Be SJ’s light, for darkness flees from it for good reason.
Bless you and all the brave who dare shine in it.

Rebel Farmer
Rebel Farmer
January 22, 2012 2:12 am

I know that I’m late to this party, but I wanted to express my heartfelt thanks for your honesty in sharing what is a horrific burden that you and all of your family are going through. I know from first hand experience. My whole family is NUTS! Me included. It’s a genetic thing. We run the gambit from full blown schizophrenia, paranoia, depression, mania, or some combination on varying scales of intensity. Many in our family have been diagnosed as bi-polar, whatever that catch-all means. Your concept of surrender is perfect. For those that are afflicted as well as those that deal with them. It has helped me to read books by those that have learned to create a complete and fulfilling life despite their mental illness, or the illness of a loved one. I strongly recommend reading two recent books (2011) written from the perspective of a parent of the afflicted, and from the point of view of the afflicted. One is by Mark Vonnegut (Kurt’s son). The title is “Just Like Someone Without Mental Illness only More So”. Mark wrote a book back in the late 1970’s called “Eden Express” about his mental breaks that he had had. Sharing his insight into his own mental illness saved my life. He made it clear that mental illness was like any other physical disease. It might not be able to be cured, but it can be controlled with treatment. The other book is “Henry’s Demons: Living with Schizophrenia, A Father and Son’s Story” by Patrick Cockburn (the journalist) and his son. This one is probably the one that will be the most helpful to you as a father.

Good luck, and take care. And thanks……

Timothy
Timothy
January 22, 2012 2:24 am

nobody’s keeping score. NOBODY

Nonanonymous
Nonanonymous
January 22, 2012 4:20 am

Thanks, Stucky. Having been through the same thing myself, except I was the one with the mental illness, and with my father now gone. I know he did the best he could with what he knew. God honors commitment. We may not always see it, but God is also faithful.

My diagnosis was acute, and I don’t suffer from it anymore. However, I was there at a point in my life. You’re doing the best you can, and that’s all anyone can do.

Schizophrenia is an insidious disease, hopefully he will find some peace in his life. My prayers will be with you and your family.

Muck About
Muck About
January 22, 2012 11:39 am

Stucky, your post has brought out the best from the demons and denizens that dwell on or under TBP.

I’d love to know who the asshole is that is stuffing thumbs down for jollies. Oh well, there’s one in every crowd.

MA

Bill
Bill
January 24, 2012 9:58 am

Your experiences resonate with me. My wife and I lost our much loved, 25 year old son to a drug overdose ten months ago. Our lives had been affected by our son’s drug use since he was 16. We went through many difficult times. On the other hand, we have countless good memories of our son that we treasure. There is a reality and finality to death that you can’t argue with. There is no going back. We can only go forward, always with the ever present sense of loss. We have learned from our mistakes, and we hold dear our happy memories.

My advice: create wonderful memories with your son. Spend time with him where you don’t criticize, and you laugh together. Do stuff together all the while accepting him as he is. Visit him in the hospital and learn to have a really good time just hanging out. Play games, shoot basketball, watch TV, whatever you both can find to enjoy together. Appreciate his strengths and good qualities while downplaying his weaknesses if he, not you, brings them up. Be man enough to accept his criticisms of you with a sense of humor without being defensive. Above all, let your obvious love for your son shine through, so that he knows that you believe in him. You have done the right thing by hospitalizing your son. His behavior should be kept under control. Expectations are not a mistake, but expectations should be crafted to be realistic and something that he can achieve so that he develops a sense of success. Baby steps. Perhaps you could volunteer at the hospital helping others besides your son to be an example for him, showing him that by helping others we can sometimes get outside our own problems and achieve meaning and purpose. A father cannot avoid expecting good things for his son. It’s just that what we expect should be something they can achieve. You may not be able to help your son correct his faulty thinking patterns, although the therapy may help or even succeed. Regardless, the healing power of love combined with intelligence will leave you with a sense of greater peace. We were not able to turn my son’s life around, but at least we can remember so much that was good about him and the real love we shared.

Administrator
Administrator
  Stucky
January 24, 2012 4:50 pm

Congrats you old codger.

How about Newt or Mitt?

AWD
AWD
January 24, 2012 4:13 pm

“Let go and let God”

“Al Anon is a great program”

“Tough love is the only thing that works”

“Michigan is a shithole”