SOLVE FOR X, SOLVE FOR Y

Guest Post by Stephanie Shepard

In the 1990’s Neil Howe and William Strauss wrote the best selling books on generational theory. They created a new historical theory and proved that history was not linear, as most would believe, but it was a cycle. An 80 year cycle, the average time of a human life span, of four different generations interacting with one another throughout history. Their expertise has been hailed as accurate and prophetic interactions of the generations.

I don’t agree with Howe that I am a Millennial. The defining characteristic seem very off to me, they always have. I am suppose to be civic minded and a team player. I have never identified with those groups. I was suppose to be a over protected child and given trophies for showing up. I never identified with those childhoods. I am suppose to be a digital native who has always the internet and instant connectivity. I remember a childhood of playing outside.

Through my own observations and nostalgia, I can attest there is another generational cusp. A big one. Generation X and Millennials are a bigger cusp than any of the generations. Estimated I would say by two decades. A solid generation right in the middle. Generation Xers are estimated between 1964-1982, and Millennials are estimated between 1982-2002. Of course there is back and forth bickering of these dates. It still doesn’t change my theory of a full generation in the middle, starting in the mid 1970s and ending in the mid 1990s.

Generation X and Millennial Cusp

In the 1970’s the first no fault divorce law was passed in California, it gave couples the right to divorce without explanation, and seemingly with little consequence. The social and economic structure went unharmed for a few years. The consequences bore out of the new mass divorce rates would take a decade to effectively observe.  Largely they were swept under the rug as just a sign of “troubled adolescence” of the teenage Gen Xers.

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“As my bones grew they did hurt,
They hurt really bad.
I tried hard to have a father,
But instead I had a dad.”
“I just want you to know that I.
Don’t hate you anymore.
There is nothing I could say,
That I haven’t thought before.”

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The first rise of the teenage angst culture started in 1991 with the release of “Smells like Teen Spirit”. The early wave of Gen X were getting out on their own, to only realize there was nothing waiting for them. Much like their childhoods, their was no warm embrace in the real world. They were on their own to figure out and survival mode would be the generational characteristic that would forever stay. The Nomad Generation was fulfilling their roles in the generation scheme.

Following Nirvana’s long shot success, many other Seattle grunge bands began to emerge in mainstream music. A new genre was born out of childhoods of being in the shadows of their parents’ vanity. They grew up raising themselves, going home to empty houses, and watching wholesome value programming of the Brady Bunch. Never knowing a two parent household and homemaker mothers. The wave of the latchkey childhood had begun and would continue for decades.

When Neil Howe wrote about the Millennials there were a few characteristics that he did not anticipate lingering from the Gen X childhood. For over two decades birth control, abortion, and divorce would define a huge cusp generation. Many of the Millennial predictions have not come true because of not taking into account how culturally changing the effect have been. Gen X childhood alienation was not an abnormal trend. The same traits that stirred contempt in their generation carried over to the Millennials.

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Generation X and Millennials have an odd connection. The cusp I am referring to is one of a generation raising itself. While many of the Millennials had single moms or working moms, their entertainment was largely unguided. Millennials grew up with Generation X writing and producing the very same entertainment. The music, television programming, movies, video games, and cartoons were written and produce by older generation Xers. Older Millennials were the target audience in the late 1980s and early 1990s.  The cultural influence of entertainment during the time had a lasting impact.

The Alternation Rock and Rap during the 1990s, written by Xers, were the storytellers of the pain Millennials were facing while growing up. My parents are divorced. They got divorced in 1991, I was five years old. The first memories I have of my childhood were of my Dad working and never around. My mom stayed at home with me, while my brother went to school. When my Dad was home I heard screaming, intensified anger on both sides, and being woken in the middle of the night to my Mom packing bags. There was even one morning I woke up to the living room destroyed along with ranch dressing drying to the walls of the kitchen.

When it comes to divorce my family is saturated in it. My parents both grew up in divorced households. Both of my parents were raised by their mothers and had part time Dads. My grandparents were born on the Silent/Baby Boomer cusp, and they loved their divorce. Most of my grandparents were divorced multiple times. This cycle didn’t end  until they started to age. Now my parents get to suffer the burden of their final expenses. No houses to inherit or funds to pay for their debts. All the money was spent on divorces and child support payments.

The Divorce Burden

Prior to the popularity of divorce, couples remained together, and accumulated wealth over the course of their lifetimes. Many were quite successful in paying off their mortgages, building savings, aquiring health insurance, life insurance, and making plans for retirement. When divorce came into the picture, that structure was demolished. Nobody owned houses outright by the end of their career. Both parties were left poorer, single moms started applying in mass for welfare and fathers had to pay the expenses two separate households. Instead of building savings, a debt fueled lifestyle because the norm.

Now as many Boomers are at the age of retirement they have nothing. After multiple divorces and starting multiple families, they have no wealth security. They cannot collect pensions and benefits from their spouses, they cannot pay off their homes, and they are not able to pay off the debts they accumulated in their lifetimes.

This saddles the younger generations to pay for their parents and grandparents carefree attitude. A generation who never thought they would get old. Now as they age they have no plan B. Their children are not better off either. With no wealth accumulation, most of Generation X and Millennials have a student loan bubble and multiple credit card debits. I heavily doubt Generation X or Millennials will be lining up to pay for their parents retirements.

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Stucky
Stucky
February 5, 2014 6:05 pm

Nice. A Clammy thread.

I have something to say about the article …. but, I’m afraid I’ll be told to fuckoff and die.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
February 5, 2014 6:07 pm

It used to be that divorce came about when men traded in the wife for a newer model. Now women ditch the men because they don’t need them for breeding any more and they get sick of the ear hair and snoring. I think they should put up with the ear hair and be happy not to live in a sod house like 125 years ago. Call me a traditionalist, I guess.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
February 5, 2014 6:11 pm

Saw this on a kid’s Twitter line today: “Wen I get married im never divorcing. I never wanna be like my mom and dad”. Heavily favorited & retweeted.

Stephanie
Stephanie
February 5, 2014 6:19 pm

“Wen I get married im never divorcing. I never wanna be like my mom and dad”.

Watch that everclear video and read the comments on youtube. They are somewhat unnerving, especially seeing as many of the comments are from young millennials.

Stucky
Stucky
February 5, 2014 6:26 pm

“In the 1970′s the first no fault divorce law was passed in California, it gave couples the right to divorce without explanation …” ———– from the article

You may not like the consequences of the law, but it’s a GREAT law.

The GOVERNMENT has NO BUSINESS getting involved in who should stay married, or not. It is a PERSONAL decision. Not. Their. Job.

We already need their permission to get married. What’s next? Permission when we can Boink our beloved?

Stephanie Shepard
Stephanie Shepard
February 5, 2014 6:31 pm

Stucky- Of course you would have that view point. You are a Boomer who got divorced and remarried. No surprise there.

Stephanie Shepard
Stephanie Shepard
February 5, 2014 6:39 pm

Mama please stop cryin’
I can’t stand the sound
Your pain is painful and it’s
Tearing me down

I hear glasses breakin’
As I sit up in my bed
I told God you didn’t mean
Those nasty things you said
You fight about money
‘Bout me and my brother
And this I come home to
This is my shelter

It ain’t easy, growin’ up in world war 3
Never knowin’ what love could be
You’ll see, I don’t want love to destroy me
Like it has done my family

Can we work it out
Can we be a family
I promise I’ll be better
Mommy I’ll do anything
Can we work it out
Can we be a family
I promise I’ll be better
Daddy please don’t leave

Daddy please stop yelling (stop)
I can’t stand the sound (can’t stand the sound)
Make mama stop cryin’
‘Cause I need you around (yeah yeah yeah)
My mama she loves you (I know it)
No matter what she says is true
I know that she hurts you
But remember I love you too!

I ran away today, ran from the noise
Ran away (ran away)
Don’t wanna go back to that place
But don’t have no choice, no way

It ain’t easy, growin’ up in world war 3
Never knowin’ what love could be
But I’ve seen, I don’t want love to destroy me
Like it did my family

Can we work it out (Can we work it)
Can we be a family
I promise I’ll be better (I promise)
Mommy I’ll do anything (Anything to keep you back)
Can we work it out
Can we be a family
I promise I’ll be better (I promise I promise)
Daddy please don’t leave

In our family portrait (In our family portrait)
We look pretty happy (We look pretty happy)
Let’s play pretend, let’s act like it
Comes naturally
I don’t wanna have to split the holidays (no no)
I don’t want two addresses (no no)
I don’t want a stepbrother anyway
And I don’t want my mom to have to change her last name!

In our family portrait
We look pretty happy
We look pretty normal
Lets go back to that
In our family portrait
We look pretty happy
Lets play pretend, act like it
Goes naturally

In our family portrait (Can we work it out)
We look pretty happy (Can we be a family)
We look pretty normal (I promise I’ll be better)
Lets go back to that (Mommy I’ll do anything)
In our family portrait (Can we work it out)
We look pretty happy (Can we be a family)
Lets play pretend (I promise I’ll be better)
Act like it goes naturally, (Daddy please don’t leave)
Oh lets go back Oh lets go back

In our family portrait (Can we work it out)
We look pretty happy (Can we be a family)
We look pretty normal (I promise I’ll be better)
Lets go back to that (Mommy I’ll do anything)
In our family portrait (Can we work it out)
We look pretty happy (Can we be a family)
We look pretty normal (I promise I’ll be better)
Lets go back to that (Daddy please don’t leave)

Don’t leave… don’t leave… Daddy don’t leave…
Don’t leave… Daddy don’t leave…
Daddy don’t leave… Daddy don’t leave… Daddy don’t leave…
Don’t leave… don’t leave…
Turn around please

Remember that the night you left
You took my shining star
Daddy don’t leave…
Daddy don’t leave…
Daddy don’t leave…

Mama’ll be nicer
I’ll be so much better
I’ll tell my brother
I won’t spill the milk at dinner
I’ll be so much better
I’ll do everything right
I’ll be your little girl forever
I’ll go to sleep at night

Stucky
Stucky
February 5, 2014 6:39 pm

“The first rise of the teenage angst culture started in 1991 with the release of “Smells like Teen Spirit”. ——-from the article

Huh! That was the year, eh? Over an album. Didn’t know that.

I got my first rise as a teenager in 1966. I was swimming one summer with Cindi Spigner in her pool when she brushed up against me and …….. BOING!!! Extreme angst. What the fuck do I do now?? It took me three more years to figure that out.

“Stucky, can you be serious just once? Why do you always joke around?”, you might be asking yourself.

First answer, “No.” Second answer, this is yet another Clammy Boomer Sucks screed … albeit more subdued …. and, she’s got nothing new to say, so why bother?

Stephanie Shepard
Stephanie Shepard
February 5, 2014 6:43 pm

Hey Stucky, Doesn’t your son how emotional problems? Low blow? Maybe, but don’t think your children came out of the divorce unscathed. How many divorces did you have? How many times have you been married?

Stucky
Stucky
February 5, 2014 6:49 pm

“Stucky- Of course you would have that view point. You are a Boomer who got divorced and remarried. No surprise there” ———— Clams Half Baked

OK, fine, you have all the answers.

Then again, do you? You whine, moan, groan, and bitch incessantly. Oh, yeah, and the Blame Game. You’re an expert there.

OK … divorces are bad (I happen to agree with that.)

So, please do tell us what your would do about it. Tell us what laws you would enact to cure the problem. If not laws, then what? Maybe going back to arranged marriages? I stand by with baited breath awaiting your wisdom.

llpoh
llpoh
February 5, 2014 6:49 pm

Comments re the first paragraph: First, Strauss and Howe did not “prove” a damn thing. They have a theory, and it has received more than a little criticism. Second, the comment: “Their expertise has been hailed as accurate and prophetic interactions of the generations” can be said about any damn thing.

Re divorce, the analysis is simplistic. Major factors were ignored. Yes, the divorce rate surged. But many factors were at play, not just the no fault divorce rates indicated. Some of these include increased life expectancy, reduction in the percentage of persons working in agriculture, increased participation rate of women in the workforce, far greater percentage of married women working in the 60s, 70s, and 80s, far greater numbers of women attending college, increased availability of welfare, and the women’s lib movement.

Re the comments about home ownership, she is incorrect. In 1950, almost 55% of homes were owned outright. By 1960, this had fallen to 42% – and the fall had nothing to do with increased divorce rates. Today, approximately 30% of homes are owned outright. The changes in/by 1960 are almost 100% related to availability of mortgages, and the rapidly increasing wages and net wealth of households. More recent changes relate to the easy credit available, and the use of second mortgages to fuel consumption.

The author makes statements such as this: ” Nobody owned houses outright by the end of their career. ” That is simply stupid. It is a blatant falsehood, and is a gross attempt at pushing toward her conclusion.

The author says this: “Prior to the popularity of divorce, couples remained together, and accumulated wealth over the course of their lifetimes. Many were quite successful in paying off their mortgages, building savings, aquiring health insurance, life insurance, and making plans for retirement. When divorce came into the picture, that structure was demolished. Nobody owned houses outright by the end of their career. Both parties were left poorer, single moms started applying in mass for welfare and fathers had to pay the expenses two separate households. Instead of building savings, a debt fueled lifestyle because the norm.”

She offers no proof. But a simple search reveals this chart:

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It is quite clear that she is wrong. The fact is, household net worth exploded during the 60s/70s/80s – despite greatly increased divorce rates, tapered, climbed, and now has dropped significantly. I can see no correlation to divorce rates in this. If anything, I would say the correlation might be in the percentage of people not marrying today, as opposed to the numbers divorcing.

I find no substance to her comment “After multiple divorces and starting multiple families, they have no wealth security.” It is true that many have nothing, but not all. To lay it at the doorstep of divorce flies in the face of the evidence. It is more true to suggest that the boomers have taken on debt and lived for today than to blame it on divorce.

I do not disagree with her final paragraph, particularly this: “This saddles the younger generations to pay for their parents and grandparents carefree attitude.” It is simply that the case she has laid to arrive at the final conclusion is factually wrong and totally undocumented. Even a modicum of research would have shown it to be the case. The author attempts to present as facts what are no more than broad opinions. The final opinion, while correct, is totally unsupported by the article.

The author really does need to learn a bit about researching topics, and supporting opinion with fact, and about claiming opinion as fact.

llpoh
llpoh
February 5, 2014 6:58 pm

Damn, and here I thought the ignorant bitch would have honored her word. Put the Admin thru the process of removing all of her shite, and then here she is again. The only place she can get any exposure whatsoever. Just here to take a dump and hope to generate a following.

And seriously, that was perhaps the biggest turd she ever laid. Everthig she said was wrong, save for the conclusion. Gotta hand it to her, it is really difficult to be that consistently wrong.

I would not have gone after her so directly, save her comments to Stuck, which are entirely out of line.

Here is an idea: what say she learn to write, to do a bit of research, and to reason a bit before she posts dumb ass shit.

Stephanie Shepard
Stephanie Shepard
February 5, 2014 7:01 pm

OK … divorces are bad (I happen to agree with that.)

Too late. You are already divorced.

Stucky
Stucky
February 5, 2014 7:03 pm

“Hey Stucky, Doesn’t your son how emotional problems? ——— Evil Clams

Yes, but he’s making tremendous progress resolving them. Thanks for asking.

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“Low blow? Maybe, ” ——— Crazy Clams

It would be a low blow if AWD, Admin, llpoh, TeresaE, SSS, Billy, I_S, Thinker or a HOST of other people here who I RESPECT said that. You? Not so much. Flame away.

“but don’t think your children came out of the divorce unscathed.” ——— Obvious Clam

NO ONE comes out of a divorce unscathed. It scars everyone. Over time, most people heal. You apparently have not.

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“How many divorces did you have?” ——— Curious Clam

One.

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“How many times have you been married?” ——— Nosey Clam

Once.

Stephanie Shepard
Stephanie Shepard
February 5, 2014 7:07 pm

” Over time, most people heal. You apparently have not.”

No one ever does, the inspiration for this article was my parents. Both who grew up in the first waves of divorce in the 1970s. I talked extensively with my Mom about her childhood prior to writing this article. Up until now she would white wash the past or say she didn’t remember. My Dad never got over his parents divorce. He won’t speak of it. He won’t acknowledge his father. This week I had an aunt I didn’t know existed, from when my grandfather (paternat grandfather) remarried, contact me on facebook.

llpoh
llpoh
February 5, 2014 7:07 pm

Current count for the bearded clam – 16 down no ups whatsoever.

What a surprise.

Stucky
Stucky
February 5, 2014 7:10 pm

“Too late. You are already divorced” — Stupid Clam Served Over A Bed of Dumbass Lettuce

To late for what?

I’m glad your reading my posts. But read the entire post. You forgot … probably on purpose ….. my questions. Here they are again, in caps for your viewing pleasure.

SO, PLEASE DO TELL US WHAT YOUR WOULD DO ABOUT IT [divorce].

TELL US WHAT LAWS YOU WOULD ENACT TO CURE THE PROBLEM.

IF NOT LAWS, THEN WHAT? MAYBE GOING BACK TO ARRANGED MARRIAGES?

llpoh
llpoh
February 5, 2014 7:10 pm

So the beared one had inspiration for the article. Too bad it was all inspiration. It could have done with a good dose of facts and a little sprinkle of logic and analysis. I guess all you need is inspiration. Hard work and research are for other folks, I guess.

Stephanie Shepard
Stephanie Shepard
February 5, 2014 7:10 pm

Llpoh- I don’t care. I am really offended by guilty divorcees hating my articles. Big whoop.

Stephanie Shepard
Stephanie Shepard
February 5, 2014 7:11 pm

Stucky- I would let them gays marry. Maybe the divorce rates would go down.

llpoh
llpoh
February 5, 2014 7:14 pm

Stuck – as I pointed out, divorce is not the issue. Falling marriage rate, now that is possibly a major issue. Increased ability and willingness to take on debt, now that is an issue. I have yet to find a significant correlation between the ills she points out and divorce. Divorce is a bummer, but the major cause of the financial issues she is pointing out? I have found no proof of that.

Stucky
Stucky
February 5, 2014 7:14 pm

” Over time, most people heal. You apparently have not.” ——— Stucky the Wise One

“No one ever does,” ——- Broken Clams

Oh, yes, they do.

That’s a very sad commentary by you. I feel bad for you. Really. If you continue to wallow in pity, sadness, anger … year after year …. it will DESTROY you. You should seek counseling. Seriously.

Stephanie Shepard
Stephanie Shepard
February 5, 2014 7:17 pm

No they don’t. You are kidding yourself otherwise. And unless you have divorced parents you don’t know what you are talking about.

Stucky
Stucky
February 5, 2014 7:21 pm

“Stucky- I would let them gays marry. Maybe the divorce rates would go down.” —- Clamophobe

Well, yes, if curing Divorce Rates is your top priority.

“In states where same-sex marriages are legally recognized, the divorce rate is 20 percent lower than in states that only allow marriages between a man and a woman. For example, Massachusetts, which was the first state to legalize same-sex marriage (in 2004), also has the lowest divorce rate in the country.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/27/gay-marriage_n_3513028.html

llpoh
llpoh
February 5, 2014 7:24 pm

So, again the dumb one comes out with this: unless you have divorced parents you do not know what you are talking about. Unbelievable. As always, no facts presented. totally unfounded opinion put out as fact. As always, Clam tells someone that they have no rght or basis from which to form an opinion, and that being from a broken home she is the only person qualified to comment.

Despite Stuck’s background. Despite Mrs Freud probably having incredible expertise in the area, which she no doubt has shared with Stuck Despite enormous volumes of material out there to be absorbed and analysed. Nope. Bearded clammy outrageously claims only those from a broken home can comment, and every one of those will agree with her.

Damn, just when it seems she cannot get more stupid, there she goes again.

Stephanie Shepard
Stephanie Shepard
February 5, 2014 7:26 pm

Sarcasm.

Stucky- Did your parents divorce?

Stucky
Stucky
February 5, 2014 7:26 pm

“No they don’t. You are kidding yourself otherwise. and unless you have divorced parents you don’t know what you are talking about.” ————- Clammy Bad Eyes, Native American Princess

You can ONLY see the ENTIRE WORLD and all the EXPERIENCES therein through your own myopic lens.

Pathetic, really. You will never GROW as a person. But. most of us here already know that.

Stucky
Stucky
February 5, 2014 7:27 pm

“Stucky- Did your parents divorce?” ————- NSA Clams

No.

Stephanie Shepard
Stephanie Shepard
February 5, 2014 7:27 pm

Llpoh- Did your parents divorce?

SSS
SSS
February 5, 2014 7:28 pm

Stephanie (Calamity),

You’re winning.

Llpoh now refers to you as “the author” in his criticism of your article versus some of his past characterizations that were not quite so kind. This is a high, but subtle, compliment.

And Stucky jumped in right away with both feet. Another compliment.

Keep on truckin’. And don’t dismiss comments from people, two of whom I just mentioned, who have taken a few laps around the block of life. Read them carefully. You may find some pearls of wisdom.

Stephanie Shepard
Stephanie Shepard
February 5, 2014 7:30 pm

Stucky- Then how would you possibly know what it is like? How would you know the thoughts and feelings of a small child’s whose stability is taken away from them?

SSS
SSS
February 5, 2014 7:31 pm

Holy shit. When I started to write my comment above, there were 11 comments. After I hit the submit button, there were 30. I must type very slowly.

Stephanie Shepard
Stephanie Shepard
February 5, 2014 7:31 pm

SSS- I only dismiss them due to lack of empathy. Not growing up with divorce means you do not know what it is like.Just like I don’t know what it is like to grow up with parents that stayed together.

llpoh
llpoh
February 5, 2014 7:32 pm

I am going to write an article where I describe how to cure all ills that confront the world.

I will be totally right in everything I put down. I will offer no data or analysis.

And only right handed Native American people who are six feet tall and who are Ivy league educated with an MBA, and who own a medium sized manufacturing company and who studied in Spain, the UK, who own their homes outright, and have posted more than 12,000 times on TBP will be allowed to comment, and they will ALL agree with me.

Stucky
Stucky
February 5, 2014 7:36 pm

“Stucky- Then how would you possibly know what it is like? How would you know the thoughts and feelings of a small child’s whose stability is taken away from them?” ————- Blind In One Eye Clam

ummm …. because my boys were children when I divorced? Does that count? Nah!!

Stephanie Shepard
Stephanie Shepard
February 5, 2014 7:39 pm

Stucky- But you have never experienced it.

Llpoh- You didn’t answer my question.

Stucky
Stucky
February 5, 2014 7:40 pm

“Stephanie (Calamity), You’re winning.” ——- SSS

You’re nuts!!

And you made fun of me once because of the number 5???

Besides, you are not authorized to judge disputes. That’s my job as Da Judge. Always has been. Always will be. You have been disqualified.

llpoh
llpoh
February 5, 2014 7:41 pm

Damn – bearded clam thinks she is the only damaged person around. Everyone is damaged, in one way or another. People grow up with poverty, distant parents, alcoholism, drug addiction, violence, sex abuse, illiteracy, poor nutrition, family death, mental health issues, etc etc etc ad nauseum. Everyone has had pain. Everyone has had obstacles.

Everyone has a background which provides a source from which to draw. Divorce is just one of the many pains life brings.

But no, clammy’s background is unique and oh so painful that no one else can understand. Damn, that is pitiful. I honestly do not know a a more self-pitying, wallowing in her own misery person than dear old clammy. Unless she changes she is going to grow increasingly bitter and end her life filled with regret and anger. This I have seen, and this I know about.

Stucky
Stucky
February 5, 2014 7:42 pm

“Stucky- But you have never experienced it.” ———- Nincompoop Clams

And you’ve never experienced a real orgasm. But that doesn’t mean you don’t know about it.

Stephanie Shepard
Stephanie Shepard
February 5, 2014 7:44 pm

Llpoh- You are still bypassing my question. Did your parents divorce?

Stucky
Stucky
February 5, 2014 7:45 pm

llpoh

At this rate she’ll become addicted to drugs or alcohol. She might even eventually attempt suicide. Maybe go postal. She has all the symptoms.

Stucky
Stucky
February 5, 2014 7:51 pm

I’m done.

Ms Freud will be done with her work in 15 minutes …. believe it or not, we are going to Family Court early tomorrow where she will be asked to testify in a divorce case. I will not allow her to drive to Newark alone, so I am driving. Maybe I’ll have a funny Neegrow story.

Have fun. This thread might be the Fastest To 100 Posts ever.

Clams, you seriously need professional help.

Stephanie Shepard
Stephanie Shepard
February 5, 2014 7:55 pm

Stucky- The scary thing is many young people have experience divorce. And their experiences are similar. Only difference between now and when we were children, is we can find a platform to talk about it. I am sure you could agree with the songs I have presented on here from Pink, Eminem, an Everclear. Combined they had well over 50 million views on you tube, not to mention these songs came out in the late 90s/ early 2000s on MTV, well before youtube.

Yes, keep think my experience is the minority. Or did you not look at that divorce rate chart that effected 3 decades of children?

Stephanie Shepard
Stephanie Shepard
February 5, 2014 7:57 pm

LLpoh- Once again, Did your parents get divorce?

llpoh
llpoh
February 5, 2014 7:59 pm

clammy has found a way to game the thumbs system. Imagine that.

Stephanie Shepard
Stephanie Shepard
February 5, 2014 8:00 pm

Did you parents get divorce?

ThePessimisticChemist
ThePessimisticChemist
February 5, 2014 8:01 pm

The crop described by S&H is the rank and file. The everyday millenial. The plebes will need leaders, and they will turn to older millenials for leadership and advice.

I may not affect change on the national stage, but I try to educate and influence as much as I can.

@rest of the content – Since I was a wee lad, I maintained I would not ever get divorced. I took it a step further, and never even dated until I found someone I could see myself wanting to be with long term. I studiously avoided the overly dramatic dating scene (dodging a logjam of stupidity in doing so)

llpoh
llpoh
February 5, 2014 8:03 pm

Will someone please tell the dumb bitch I am not talking to her, before she works herself into even more of a lunatic lather. She is starting to run around like a mad woman pissing. I am talking about her, yes indeed. But she is too stupid to converse with, so that I am not doing.

Stephanie Shepard
Stephanie Shepard
February 5, 2014 8:05 pm

TPC- I agree. Younger Mills will follow older Mills, much the same as older Mills follow Gen X. Gen X has already been through much of the same childhood and graduating into a recession same as Mills.

Stephanie Shepard
Stephanie Shepard
February 5, 2014 8:06 pm

LLpoh- Did your parents get divorce? Still avoiding the question…

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