Obama is supporting people like this dude.
Fourth Turnings build and build like the dome in a volcano. Then they erupt in a fiery blast. The pressure continues to build. When it blows, the world will not resemble what exists today.
DO FOURTH TURNINGS FIZZLE OUT?
Fuse keeps getting shorter! John
Not sure yet how real this is, or if it doesn’t matter than the elected government of the Ukraine chooses to side with Russia, but it’s worth noting:
The forgotten treaty which could drag the US and UK into WAR with Russia if Putin’s troops intervene in Ukraine
A treaty signed in 1994 by the US and Britain could pull both countries into a war to protect Ukraine if President Putin’s troops cross into the country.
Bill Clinton, John Major, Boris Yeltsin and Leonid Kuchma – the then-rulers of the USA, UK, Russia and Ukraine – agreed to the The Budapest Memorandum as part of the denuclearization of former Soviet republics after the dissolution of the Soviet Union.
Technically it means that if Russia has invaded Ukraine then it would be difficult for the US and Britain to avoid going to war.
Sir Tony Brenton, who served as British Ambassador from 2004 to 2008, said that war could be an option ‘if we do conclude the [Budapest] Memorandum is legally binding.’
It promises to protect Ukraine’s borders, in return for Ukraine giving up its nuclear weapons.
Kiev has demanded the agreement is activated after insisting their borders had been violated.
In response Mr Brenton said in a BBC radio interview: ‘If indeed this is a Russian invasion of Crimea and if we do conclude the [Budapest] Memorandum is legally binding then it’s very difficult to avoid the conclusion that we’re going to go to war with Russia’.
Not that Obama would feel any responsibility to uphold a signed treaty of the U.S., anyway…
Putin Asks For, And Is Granted Permission By Parliament To Use Military In Ukraine
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 03/01/2014 09:11 -0500
Current US foreign policy in a nutshell: Barack Obama tells Vladimir Putin “there will be costs” if Russia invades Ukraine. What does Putin do? He invades Ukraine. Only this time it’s official: AP reports that the Kremlin says Russian President Vladimir Putin has asked parliament for permission to use the country’s military in Ukraine. Putin says the move is needed to protect ethnic Russians and the personnel of a Russian military base in Ukraine’s strategic region of Crimea.
From the Kremlin website:
Vladimir Putin made an appeal to the Council of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation.
“In connection with the extraordinary situation in Ukraine, the threat to the lives of citizens of the Russian Federation, our compatriots, the personnel of the military contingent of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation deployed in the territory of Ukraine (Autonomous Republic of Crimea) in accordance with an international treaty, and pursuant to Article 102-1(d) of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, I hereby submit to the Federation Council of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation a letter on the use of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in the territory of Ukraine pending normalisation of the public and political situation in that country”
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Putin also appointed Deputy Foreign Minister Grigory Karasin to be his official representative in the Federation Council when it considers his letter.
Earlier in the day, the Federation Council asked Putin to take “exhaustive measures” to protect Russians in Ukraine.
“We have urgently summoned the house Council and thought it necessary to make a statement assessing the current situation in Ukraine,” Federation Council Chairperson Valentina Matviyenko said.
She said a group of Russian senators, who had visited Crimea, had informed their colleagues about the situation in the Ukrainian autonomy and specifically in Sevastopol, the home base of the Russian Black Sea Fleet.
“Today there is a real threat to the life and security of Russian citizens living in Ukraine. There is a threat to our military in Sevastopol and the Black Sea Fleet, and I think that Russia should not be a bystander,” she said.
The main purpose of the Federation Council’s appeal to the president is to urge him “to take exhaustive measures, all possible measures, to ensure the security of our citizens living in Ukraine, help our brotherly Ukrainian people achieve stabilisation and channel the current crisis into a civilised legal track so that the agreements that were signed by the opposition leaders and the head of state were implemented strictly,” Matviyenko said.
She noted that members of the Federation Council “asked the president to take exhaustive measures to prevent further escalation and put the resolution of the political crisis onto a legal track so that those who have grabbed power did not hurry so much and did not trample upon the rights of people and different regions of Ukraine.”
“The agreement [of February 21] clearly determined the sequence of steps. A constitutional reform first – it was supposed to be carried out with broad participation of public and political forces and regions in order to work out a consensus-based document that would be supported by all people in Ukraine. According to international practices, such serious documents should be adopted in a national referendum,” Matviyenko said.
Having expressed regret that this had not happened, she noted that “the speed with which presidential elections have been announced [in Ukraine] puts its legitimacy in question.”
“The agreement calls for forming a government of national accord, which means that it should include representatives of all political forces. In reality we see that the government, which was approved to the stomping of the Maidan, did not include all political forces and was formed from opposition parties only,” Matviyenko observed.
She also said that “the heads of regions were not summoned for consultation.” So “we can understand why there are protests in regions, except for Western regions of Ukraine,” she added.
Matviyenko called for finding “a calm, civilised and legal solution to the crisis” and stressed that “there is no need to demonstrate high political and diplomatic culture in this case because we can see that this is neither appreciated nor understood, and most importantly the security of people will not be ensured.
RIA further adds, the military use is virtually assured as it was leaders of Russia’s upper and lower houses of parliament who first called Saturday on President Vladimir Putin to stabilize the situation in Crimea and protect Russian citizens. The leader of Federation Council, Russia’s upper house, said the use of military force in the former Soviet nation could be justified after the opposition swept into power in Kiev last weekend.
More from the RT:
“In this situation it would even be possible, on the request of the Crimean government, to bring in a limited contingent [of troops] to guarantee security,” Valentina Matviyenko said.
The partition of Ukraine has become increasingly likely in recent days as heavily armed men understood to be Russian soldiers have taken control of key facilities and blocked roads in Crimea.
About 60 percent of the residents of Ukraine’s southern peninsula are ethnic Russians with the remainder of the population made up of Ukrainians and Crimean Tatars, who largely support the incoming regime.
The State Duma, Russia’s lower house, released a similar statement Saturday that said must Putin bring the situation in Ukraine under control.
“All available means” should be deployed to protect Russian citizens, said Sergei Naryshkin, a former head of the presidential administration and the current parliamentery speaker in the Duma.
The Crimea has been visited by a series of Russian Duma deputies in recent days, including former boxing champion Nikolai Valuev, former figure skater Irina Rodnina, and the first woman in space Valentina Tereshkova.
Pro-Russian protests calling for secession have taken place sporadically across the southern and eastern Ukraine since President Viktor Yanukovuych was toppled from power a week ago.
Meanwhile, international media has reported widespread military movements, believed to be units from Russia’s Black Sea fleet headquartered in Crimea, including tanks and helicopters that began on Tuesday. Ukrainian officials have accused the Kremlin of provoking conflict and called on Russia to return all soldiers to their bases.
And then this:
•RUSSIAN FEDERATION COUNCIL AGREES TO PUTIN’S REQUEST FOR MILITARY INTERVENTION IN CRIMEA – DPA
You know, there sure has been a lot of unusually anti-Russian/pro-USA propaganda in the media over the last 6 months. Guess the PTB need some new world stage villain to justify another 20% increase in military spending, etc. The war machine has an itch to scratch…. so nothing surprises me anymore.
How do major powers fight wars today? Answer: They don’t.
Instead they use proxy countries and send “advisors” in to train and arm the stupid peasants (and poor honest people) who do the dying.
This may change when one of the nuke equipped countries collapse – for when you have nothing to lose, you lose it. Lotta people going to die either way.
The exception to the first statement lies in someone going mad with fear or anger over “What might happen?” and deciding that the only way out is to toss a nuke at someone. When that happens all bets are off and the crises of the 4th Turning will indeed be upon us.. (If not the end of us!)
MA
What I find amazing is it’s almost exactly the same players as the last forth turning. Of course, the antagonists are Russia and China instead of Germany and Japan. And this time, instead of Germany and Japan being the fascist nations, WE are the fascist nation.
Obama and his minions aren’t competent to handle this situation, which will lead to unmeasured use of military force. Obama has already shown this with drone strikes, killing anyone he wishes. The stakes are too high to let someone so foolish and incompetent running an entire country, but that’s what happens with affirmative action. Everything Obama touches is catastrophe, bring on WW3.
Ukraine Acting President Calls Emergncy Meeting Of Security Chiefs; Russia Threatens To Cut Off The Gas
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 03/01/2014 10:35 -0500
All the dominoes are tumbling now. Moments after the Russian upper house of parliament approved the decision to use Russian troops in the Ukraine as expected, Ukraine’s acting president called an emergency meeting of security chiefs according to his spokeswoman. Oleksander Turchinov summoned his Security Council after Russian President Vladimir Putin sought parliamentary approval to deploy Russian forces in the Ukrainian region of Crimea. At this point the biggest and perhaps final wildcard is whether NATO does or does not get involved. If it does, and if Russia does not back off – which it has clearly telegraphed it won’t – futures may be looking at a limit down open on Sunday.
And while military escalation is now an official reality instead of merely YouTube clips of unidentified crap troops , Russia just sent another major warning shot across the bow when it issued several warnings on Saturday that Ukraine may lose a discount to the gas price it now pays to Gazprom due to Kiev’s outstanding gas debt. Russia’s state gas company Gazprom estimates Ukraine’s outstanding gas debt at $1.55 billion for 2013 and gas deliveries so far this year. This of course, was Russia’s trump card from the very beginning. Via Reuters:
“It seems that with such gas payments and fulfilment of its obligations Ukraine may not keep its current gas discount. The gas discount agreement assumed full and timely payment,” Gazprom spokesman Sergei Kupriyanov told Reuters.
A price increase would deepen Ukraine’s already dire cash situation and could lead to a new “gas war” between Kiev and Moscow as well as interrupt gas shipments to Europe, which gets around third of its gas from Russia.
In December, Russia agreed to reduce gas prices for Kiev by about a third, to $268.50 per 1,000 cubic metres from around $400 which Ukraine had paid since 2009, after ousted President Viktor Yanukovich spurned an EU trade deal in favour of closer ties to Moscow.
The deal allowed for the price to be revised quarterly between the 5th and 10th day of the first month every quarter.
The news agency Interfax cited a representative of the Russian energy ministry as saying on Saturday that Moscow sees no reason to extend the discount to Ukraine for the second quarter – because of the outstanding debt.
“If this continues to happen, is there any point in continuing the existing agreement on gas supplies at discount prices? No,” the agency cited an unnamed ministry representative as saying.
“It is important that the proposal for a reduced gas price is confirmed quarterly. It would be stupid and wrong to extend it to the second quarter.”
Ukraine’s newly appointed Energy Minister Yuri Prodan told reporters on Saturday that the price for Russian gas would stay unchanged in March but it could jump to around $400 per 1,000 cubic metres in the second quarter if the two sides fail to sign an agreement.
Ukraine, which has seen its currency spiralling down and cash and gold reserves falling significantly as a result of the political protests that led to the ousting of President Viktor Yanukovich last weekend, is in dire need of cash.
It faces a further $6 billion in foreign debt payments this year and has asked the International Monetary Fund for financial assistance of at least $15 billion. Ukraine’s newly appointed leaders estimated Kiev’s needs at around $35 billion.
Prodan told journalists that the Ukrainian energy firm Naftogas is in “active talks” with Gazprom over pricing. Ukraine consumes about 55 billion cubic meters of gas each year, and more than half of this amount is imported from Russia.
But far more important than Ukraine, which is merely a sacrificial lamb in the latest proxy war between east and west, is the Russian hint that what is likely to happen to Ukraine’s gas may soon hit Europe too if it also gets involved.
Apart from through Ukraine, Russian gas flows to Europe via Belarus and two subsea pipelines – under the Black Sea and the Baltic Sea. Gazprom plans to build another subsea pipeline – the South Stream – to bypass Ukraine by 2016.
So check to you NATO: will you defend the territorial integrity of Ukraine even as NATO actively pushed for a split in Yugoslavia some 15 years ago, or will it do the “right” thing… in the dark?
Jim: Where have you been? Executive Order 37644 was issued 4 months ago by Obama. Due to glitches in the healthcare.gov website, Fourth Turnings have been postponed until January 21, 2017
Does Anyone Even Give a Sh*t What Obama Says About Crimea?
So Russia’s moving tanks into Ukraine and Obama does the only thing he ever does—read adolescent platitudes off a teleprompter. The latest hilarity of Orwellian euphemisms to emanate from this Affirmative Action travesty of an administration is “uncontested arrival“—as in, It’s not an invasion since it’s an uncontested arrival.
Seriously, who comes up with this stuff?
This kind of hopelessly retarded and painfully obvious spindoctorism is revealing. I understand that Democrats depend on stupid, but are they really this wholly ensconced in their own ideological echo chamber that they fail to realize that roughly half the country actually still has functioning brains in their heads and will see right through this pathetic attempt to hide how abysmally pathetic our minority occupied government truly is?
I know I’m not alone; I safely assume many thousands—or hundreds of thousands, or even millions—have so completely tuned out this turd of a POTUS that even as WWIII looms precipitously on the horizon, we couldn’t care less about what he has to say. We know with absolute certainty it’s either meaningless, a lie, or a meaningless lie.
Pro-Russian Protesters Storm Kharkiv City Administration Building; Klitschko Calls For General Mobilization
Submitted by Tyler Durden on 03/01/2014 11:17 -0500
Even as Russia has officially deployed its military to the Ukraine, its unofficial involvement in The Crimean was well known for days. A much more notable development would be if protesters in the pro-Russian eastern part of the country were to seize control of the second largest city in the Ukraine, Kharkiv, located just miles from the Russian border as this would quickly give Russia a foothold into the east of the nation with the tactical escalation abilities such a takeover would entail. Which is why the following clip of pro-Russian protesters storming the city administration in Kharkiv is of importance: should Ukraine lose control of the city, or is forced to use troops against the people, it would be just the pretext Russia needs to “defend” citizens in this part of the country, the same argument it used for military intervention in the Crimean.
And in other news, Ukrainian boxer, vocal leader of the EuroMeidan opposition movement and potential future president, Vitali Klitschko just called for a general mobilization. After all he has the most to lose if the countercoup quickly sweeps away from power those who organized the original coup in the first place. From Reuters:
Vitaly Klitschko, a senior Ukrainian politician and likely presidential candidate, called on Saturday for a “general mobilisation” following Russian parliament’s decision to approve deploying troops in Ukraine’s Crimea region.
“Klitschko calls for a declaration on a general mobilisation,” the retired boxing champion’s political party UDAR (Punch) said, making clear he favoured a military mobilisation.
Finally, the world’s most useless organizations, the UN and European finance ministers, are pretending to be relevant:
•UN SECURITY COUNCIL TO MEET 2PM TODAY TO DISCUSS UKRAINE
•EUROPEAN FOREIGN MINISTERS TO HOLD EMERGENCY MEETING ON UKRAINE IN BRUSSELS ON MONDAY -EU DIPLOMAT
Time for another Obama appearance to explain just what the “costs” that he mentioned are in his opinion. Because Putin seems to have missed the message.
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Some blond cunt is on CuNNt teevee right this moment.
She said Russia is not a superpower, Amerika is. That Amerika is far superior to Russia in every facet especially economically and militarily and they are no match for us. Talking cunt then said, (and I am not kidding about any of this) that THE ONLY REAL QUESTION IS HOW WE BRING RUSSIA BACK INTO THE FOLD.
Yes, it’s such a simple thing, getting Russia (Putin) to obey Obama. BWAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!
But that’s the insane type of message you’ll be hearing from government sponsored media for however long this crisis lasts. Lie. Lie. Lie. Lie. Every story regarding Russia & Ukraine on MSM-Whore-Television is incorrect. But you all already know that.
I posted this vid on the “F******G Around” thread.
Admin, please go ahead and delete it. We don’t need two Ukraine threads at the same time, plus your vids are better.
This guy freaks me out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7onBw-s3xoM
A CuNNt expert just said “Nothing Putin says can be believed” and that it’s up to Obama “to bring stability to the region”.
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Iraq. It’s halfway around the world. USA has zero cultural ties, or any other ties. A statistically meaningless number of Americans live there. They never did anything to us. We just didn’t like their leader. So we bombed the living fuck out of them, and destroyed the country.
Crimea. It borders Russia. 58% of the population is Russian. Cultural ties go back hundreds, if not thousands of years. The government is strongly pro-Russian. They openly welcome Russia’s “intervention”. Russia has not fired a single shot. Russia has zero interest in destroying the country.
Soooo, help a po’ niggah out, will ya?
When the USA does it … it’s called “liberation”.
When Russia does it …. it called “INVASION!!”
Why is dat?
Where Moochelle and Oreo eat.
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Both Fux Newz and CuNNt are reporting that the “minority population” is extremely worried about events. Then these two lying cockfuk stations report that Crimea is strongly divided.
Here are the facts;
— 58.32% Russians
— 24.32% Ukrainians … and strongly pro-Russian
— 12.10% Crimean Tatars … and pro-Russia
There is no division. No one is concerned ….. although I’m positive CNN will find some schlep to interview about the “horrors!!”. They lie as a matter of principle.
99% of dumbass Americans couldn’t find Crimea on a map if a Ouija Board pointed them there. But Oreo’s new title is Bringer Of Stability. This can only mean one thing. HNIC Oreo’s approval rating will go up sharply.
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