Ignorance is bliss in America. NYC public school system’s finest:
Guest Post by Fred Reed
Onward into the Night
Or Uganda, Anyway
March 14, 2014
Despite much wringing of teeth and gnashing of hands about the decline in schooling in the United States, I have seen very little concrete comparison between then and now, whatever one means by “then.” In my small way, as a mere anecdote in a sea of troubles, I hereby offer an actual comparison. Permit me to preview the result: Much of the United States has sunk to the level of the lower ranks of the Third World.
As an example of documented current practice in urban schools—I have seen similar from Detroit, Chicago, and Mississippi—here are a few emails sent to the New York Post by students of Manhattan’s Murry Bergtraum HS for Business Careers. These have been posted by various horrified writers, but I repeat them here in case the reader hasn’t seen them. They concern the students’ support for something called “Blended Learning,” in which one watches a video, answers a few questions, and gets credit. The Post had written a piece critical of same, putting the students into an uproar.
A junior wrote: “What do you get of giving false accusations im one of the students that has blended learning I had a course of English and I passed and and it helped a lot you’re a reported your support to get truth information other than starting rumors . . .”
Right out of Milton, that.
Another wrote: “To deeply criticize a program that has helped many students especially seniors to graduate I should not see no complaints.”
One student said the online system beats the classroom because “you can digest in the information at your own paste.”
Now, I have no information on what things they do not know other than English. Approximately everything, I suspect. I do know that growing up long ago in average white schools from kindergarten onwards, I learned to speak better English by the second grade than these high-school students—“students”—will likely ever speak. I could write much better English. I think it reasonable to suspect that kids who want to digest in information at their own paste probably do not know a lot of algebra or chemistry. We are producing illiterate, unemployable barbarians inassimilable to a First World country.
By way of comparison, there follows a list of things I could do in my primary and secondary schools, at what age I could do them, and where the schools were. The list is accurate. In instances in which I am not sure whether I knew a thing in one grade or another, I have written “by grade five” or whatever. The schools were the public schools of the region.
Grades 2-5, Robert E. Lee Elementary, Arlington, Virginia (in the suburbs of Washington).
Multiply 457 times 56.7
Divide 345.7 by 45. 8
Divide 34 3/8 by 13/3
Diagram “Mr. Jones, the principal, who had been in the Army, said “Give it to her, please.” I knew subject, verb, appositive, direct and indirect object,
transitive verbs, proper nouns, collective nouns, helper verbs, tenses and, I think I remember, the dreaded dangling participle. I believe we had done most of this by the fourth grade, but I cannot swear to it.
I further remember that the drugstores in suburban Washington carried large rows of books, the Hardy Boys, Tom Swift, Nancy Drew, and so on, the prominent display of which suggested that the stores expected people to buy them. My friends and I assuredly did buy them. (The Hardy Boys series has since been dumbed down.) We also, many of us, had chemistry sets and microscopes from Gilbert or Edmunds Scientific. We were ordinary American kids.
Athens Elementary, or maybe Junior High, Athens, Alabama, grade six, 1956.
Solve: “If a tank contains 34.5 gallons when it is 2/3 full, how much does it contain when it is full?” Calculate areas of rectangles, circles (using pi as 3.14 or 22/7), and triangles. Solve problems involving percentages. Give from memory percentages represented by common fractions, a sixth, eighth, twelfth, and so on.
Eighth grade, base school, Dahlgren Naval Weapons Laboratory, Dahlgren, Virginia.
Calculate 2x2 y2z +7 divided into (22x3 y3z4 + 45)
Factor x2 – 9 at a glance and more-complex binomial products with a little thought, derive (for the test anyway) the quadratic formula by completing the square; solve quadratics by factoring or by the formula; solve pairs of simultaneous linear equations in two unknowns by three methods. In short, ordinary eighth-grade algebra.
Talk reasonably intelligently about Julius Caesar, which we read in English class, and quote short parts.
High school, 1960-64, rural King George High, King George, Virginia.
Here I am shaky because I can’t distinguish in memory what I learned in school and what I learned from reading medical texts and such which I had discovered I could buy on family trips to Washington. However, I do remember in chemistry class balancing oxidation-reduction equations, which alone establishes that the class was a serious one. Biology, 2nd-year algebra, plane geometry, and solid-and-trig were at a similar level. All of these were required of college-track students. We lots of did trig identities: sin2 + cos2 = 1, that sort of thing. I knew well the Indian trig-chief SOH-CAH-TOA, vital to later study of mechanics. . In short, ordinary high-school math
I still have a copy of the high-school newspaper. Adolescent writing, grammatical, decently organized.
I would like to attribute all of this to my preternatural brilliance. Unfortunately for this laudable understanding, the things listed were expected of all students until the eighth grade, when they were expected of all college-track students. Two of my schools, note, were of the rural or small-town South, thought in Brooklyn to be a motherlode of ignorance.
The moderate rigor described above apparently reigned everywhere in America at the time. In late 1964 I got to my small Southern college, Hampden-Sydney, which had average pre-dumbing-down SATs a little above 1100, the students being mostly boys from small towns all over Virginia. I remember that in freshman chem, the expectation was that everyone knew all of the above. Knew it cold. We did. Bad grammar would in no course have been tolerated. Students were assumed ready for freshman calculus. The college offered remedial nothing. If you couldn’t do the work you belonged somewhere else, and shortly were.
It was not an elite college. We were not elite students. As freshmen, we were only a summer further along than seniors at Murry Bergtraum HS for Business Careers. We didn’t digest in our own paste.
What am I, and people my age, supposed to feel other than raw contempt for pig-ignorant, self-righteous, utterly useless illiterates whom society will have to feed and house like barnyard animals for the next fifty years?
I think Clammy graduated from that school.
All of this is by design. I taught both History and Government in the late ’90’s but quit after just two years because of the frustrating fact that my Seniors could only read at a 3rd grade level. It didn’t matter what grade my students earned because the administration would change all the failing grades to passing grades. It was made clear to me that I was to do nothing to rock the boat.
The next time you see some 18 year old that doesn’t know where the United States is on a map and cant add simple fractions, know that the taxpayer spent more than $120,000 to produce another unemployable mouthbreather.
For me, the Final Nail in the coffin regarding the stupidity of Americans was Obama’s re-election. You could almost — I said, almost — forgive the first time. All that flowery speech, grandiose ideas, a half Neegro sounded cool ……….. and, of course, the competition was Shitstain McCain and some vaginny from Alaska.
But ……… a SECOND time??
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Dumbing down the schools and shortening the school year are basic reasons for today’s dumber school kids and university graduates
In 1914 almost all colleges required students to take English composition. In 1993 only 36% of the USNWR 50 best colleges had the requirement. By the latter year 70% of America’s presitgous colleges offered classes for those needing special writing instruction.
The story is the same for the other disciplines. Math, sciences, and foreign language graduation requirements were watered down at the uiversities or eliminated.
The debasing of American higher education has enabled college administrators to shorten the school year. There were an average of 204 class days in Fall, Winter, and Spring semesters in 1914. By 1993 the typical student spent just 156 days in class during that time.
To read the entire eye-opening article, type in “Spending More But Getting Less Balch Zurcher” – Balch and Zurcher are the authors – on the Google search line. [Note: TBP readers and commentators are only allowed to use Google if they can’t find what they’re looking for by using Yahoo or another search engine. This is one of those instances.]
The US is f**ked. We’re so out of touch with reality most don’t even know.
I’m sure you people, similiar to me, graduated from HS in the 60’s / 70’s and went on to get college degrees. What did we have? Books. How was it possible for us to do this without DVD’s, computers, calculators, etc? I believe it was possible because the country had a focus – grow up, get an education, get a job, work.
The focus now is on iGadgets, sports, video games, and social media. We are amusing ourselves to death (Neil Postman). Additionally, big business and big government have managed to skim most of the cash. There are so many rackets: health care, insurance, higher ed, banking, govenment. We’ve been reduced to debt slaves. You own nothing – you just rent it – pay taxes on your home year after year.
I think there’s so much negative ‘stuff’ going on that it blunts many younger people’s drive to go out and do something.
” know that the taxpayer spent more than $120,000 to produce another unemployable mouthbreather.”
Maybe unemployable but not unuseful. While those idiots among us are getting up everyday and going to work, producing what we all need to live, paying taxes and responsibly raising what kids they can support, these types are free to do the serious procreating, producing offspring in their own likeness so the New American Tradition can be passed on down to the next generation.
One major aspect of the human brain is that it is a Pattern Recognition machine. “Patterns” underpin most everything that we encounter.
This is how our cave-man ancestors survived a dangerous existence. Among other things they recognized weather patterns, distribution of flowering fruits, and the migration habits of game animals …. an advantage to their survival, and a huge disadvantage to a rival who did not develop such Pattern Recognition capabilities.
But, it comes with a consequence. That is humans today apply this behavior to almost everything. As a minor example we’ve all seen a representation of an object in the clouds …. even though we know that clouds do not form in the shape of dogs or ice cream cones.
This mostly sub-consciousness pattern seeking when applied to our modern world, leads to wishful, superstitious, and supernatural thinking. This behavior has intertwined with American culture in such a way so that there is always room for a convenient Conspiracy Theory, or much more importantly, disagreement with verified scientific evidence. Some quick examples.
1)- STUPIDITY IS COOL. This is a certain meme rampant in black culture (but, not them only). You can see it in the school letters. You can see it in the names blacks call other blacks who study hard in school … Uncle Tom!!!
2)- CREATION SCIENCE. There is zero science behind Creationism. Real science does not START out by proving a pre-decided conclusion! The evidence for evolution is literally overwhelming. Yet, only about 1/3 of Americans choose science over dogma.
3) WITCHES and OTHER PARANORMAL SHIT. 40% of Americans believe in ESP. 35% believe Astrology is actually predictive. There is little difference in critical thinking between such people and their cave-man ancestors. People see some wacko charlatan bend a spoon “with his mind”, and they believe this to be factual rather than even question the hocus-pocus behind it.
4)- SADDAM AND 9-11: As recently as 2008 an organization called Public Policy Polling found that over one third of Americans still believe Saddam has WMD’s …. Even though that has been proved false beyond a shadow of a doubt. A Newsweek Poll from last year revealed that 63% of Americans still can’t find Iraq on a map.
5)- THREE STOOGES. 75% of all Americans can name all three. Only 30% can name the three branches of government.
Considering all this, it is Just Fucking Amazing that this is the only country in the world who put a man on the moon.
You can see Stupid right here on TBP on a daily basis recently (as we seem to attract more and more random libtards.)
You see it with the three (so far) down votes on my Clammy comment. Not only does she have the worst spelling and grammar of any regular here, she is proud of it and refuses to change. You know it. But, you would rather vote me down — for whatever fuckin reason — than acknowledge the truth.
You see it here with Sandy Hook truthers …. believing no children died, and not offering one single factual scientific piece of evidence. Pure conjecture, disbelieving existing evidence, and simply asking supposedly “tough questions”, well …. that’s all that’s needed.
And to you Fast and Furious down voters of this particular post ……… BLOW ME!!
@Stucky: “it is Just Fucking Amazing that this is the only country in the world who put a man on the moon”
Your comment is right on – but it seems like most people are in a trance. You can’t wake them up with facts.
We homeschooled our daughter. The score on her 3rd Grade Iowa Test (for reading) was PHS – I thought what the hell is this – the kid can’t be doing that poorly. Reading the footnotes I see: PHS – Post High School! My brat is sharp, but no Einstein. This demonstrates how low the norm must be.
In the 8th grade, my wife gave her all the standardized tests – including Social Studies and Science. The kid never had a social studies book or a science book. She scored over 90% in both subjects. Her comment was: It’s just stuff you’d read about in the Wall St Journal everyday.
Here in Minneapolis (land of 10,000 taxes) gubmint school funding works out to $21,000 yr/pupil! So we’re paying around $240,000 for grossly inferior product. Hell, you could buy the kid a home and a car with that $240k.
I believe that later in this Fourth Turning they will be woken up by failure. Hard failure.
mo’ evolution er..established science man-boob says ..
I will tell you as a scientist and a synthetic chemist: if anybody should be able to understand evolution, it is me, because I make molecules for a living, and I don’t just buy a kit, and mix this and mix this, and get that. I mean, ab initio, I make molecules. I understand how hard it is to make molecules. I understand that if I take Nature’s tool kit, it could be much easier, because all the tools are already there, and I just mix it in the proportions, and I do it under these conditions, but ab initio is very, very hard.
I don’t understand evolution, and I will confess that to you. Is that OK, for me to say, “I don’t understand this”? Is that all right? I know that there’s a lot of people out there that don’t understand anything about organic synthesis, but they understand evolution. I understand a lot about making molecules; I don’t understand evolution. And you would just say that, wow, I must be really unusual.
Let me tell you what goes on in the back rooms of science – with National Academy members, with Nobel Prize winners. I have sat with them, and when I get them alone, not in public – because it’s a scary thing, if you say what I just said – I say, “Do you understand all of this, where all of this came from, and how this happens?” Every time that I have sat with people who are synthetic chemists, who understand this, they go “Uh-uh. Nope.” These people are just so far off, on how to believe this stuff came together. I’ve sat with National Academy members, with Nobel Prize winners. Sometimes I will say, “Do you understand this?”And if they’re afraid to say “Yes,” they say nothing. They just stare at me, because they can’t sincerely do it.
I was once brought in by the Dean of the Department, many years ago, and he was a chemist. He was kind of concerned about some things. I said, “Let me ask you something. You’re a chemist. Do you understand this? How do you get DNA without a cell membrane? And how do you get a cell membrane without a DNA? And how does all this come together from this piece of jelly?” We have no idea, we have no idea. I said, “Isn’t it interesting that you, the Dean of science, and I, the chemistry professor, can talk about this quietly in your office, but we can’t go out there and talk about this?”
If you understand evolution, I am fine with that. I’m not going to try to change you – not at all. In fact, I wish I had the understanding that you have.
But about seven or eight years ago I posted on my Web site that I don’t understand. And I said, “I will buy lunch for anyone that will sit with me and explain to me evolution, and I won’t argue with you until I don’t understand something – I will ask you to clarify. But you can’t wave by and say, “This enzyme does that.” You’ve got to get down in the details of where molecules are built, for me. Nobody has come forward.
The Atheist Society contacted me. They said that they will buy the lunch, and they challenged the Atheist Society, “Go down to Houston and have lunch with this guy, and talk to him.” Nobody has come! Now remember, because I’m just going to ask, when I stop understanding what you’re talking about, I will ask. So I sincerely want to know. I would like to believe it. But I just can’t.
Now, I understand microevolution, I really do. We do this all the time in the lab. I understand this. But when you have speciation changes, when you have organs changing, when you have to have concerted lines of evolution, all happening in the same place and time – not just one line – concerted lines, all at the same place, all in the same environment … this is very hard to fathom.
I was in Israel not too long ago, talking with a bio-engineer, and [he was] describing to me the ear, and he was studying the different changes in the modulus of the ear, and I said, “How does this come about?” And he says, “Oh, Jim, you know, we all believe in evolution, but we have no idea how it happened.”
“And to you Fast and Furious down voters of this particular post (@ 5:02 pm)……… BLOW ME!!”
—-Stucky
Had to vote it down. Just had to. For good measure, I went back and gave you a thumbs-down on your 3:44 pm comment.
Making YOU mad makes ME happy. Heh.
“BLOW ME!” – Stucky
How could anyone blow you Stucky? Your cock – no, it’s not even big enough to be called a cock… your dick – no, it’s too small for that… your thingie – that’s what it is – is too short for action. I hear that even Mrs F says that most of the time tiny can’t even be seen and when she wants performance she has to look elsewhere.
Aren’t you one of the jaw-dropping, uneducated ignoramuses on this sight? You write like it. You throw shit but you have no wit. You’re closed-minded. Compared to you Stephanie is a breath of fresh air.
TBP is delight… mostly. JQ gives it his all and he deserves better…no, the best. Slop tongues like you need to get back under your rock, open your mind, keep the shit out of your mouth, and offer some things positive. Don’t derade TBP with your trash talk.
I am the last auto mechanic that can speak four languages, took 3 years of college calculus, still enjoys physics and the associated math as a hobby, studies string theory, has a book library with actual paper books, and can still do a triathlon at age 53. I was going to teach kids my skill, but thought it was a disservice. Guess I was wrong.
Interesting post above from Stucky about Pattern Recognition. As I read it, Stucky says that people develop templates, or patterns, for explaining or dealing with their lives and events. From his first example, “Stupidity Is Cool,” I get the impression that cultural leaders usually create the templates/patterns that are the basis of our beliefs. His next examples, Creationism and Witches, suggest that the irrational is a strong influence on our mental patterns/templates. Number four, Saddam and 9-11, suggests to me that our leaders have a great influence on our basic beliefs. And as for the Three Stooges, I think that Stucky has shown that many of us, so susceptible to external influence in our thinking, may well be the stooges.
Stucky, it looks and reads like the post is all your creation with no copy and paste sections. If so, my hat’s off to you. It’s a compelling comment and one I’ll remember. If you have the time, do it again on this or some other subject.
“mo’ evolution er..established science man-boob says” ——- flash
Go ahead and keep posting your religious stuff …. you copy and pastes, which I highly doubt even 1 in 10 reads. Really. Keep at it.
I’m tired of your insults …. “science man-boob”, being the latest. Since you are a long time regular I will respectfully ask you to back the fuck off. If it’s my attention you crave, you will get it. But I prefer you just leave me the fuck alone.
Thanks, Jackson.
For some reason, not sure why, I’ve always been drawn to matters of the mind / brain. I even subscribed to Psychology Today while in high school.
I love “brain” books and have around 20 or so in my library. My favorite being “The Man Who Mistook His Wife For A Hat: And Other Clinical Tales”, one of those books one can read several times and glean something new from each reading.
That being said I knew what I wanted to say regarding Pattern Recognition, and searched for some examples, and my post contains ideas found in Scientific American.
Dutchman – whilst at School, you probably did have access to a computing machine. One that is still faster than most pocket calculators, but one that requires knowledge to use.
The Slide Rule.
– The “Machine” that provided the computation power required for ALL the developments of the Industrial Revolution, and successive developments, up to (and including) the Apollo Space Programme.
– A “Machine” that can still provide computational resolution to at least 1 in 1000 precision (and accuracy / precision slightly dependent on device quality / construction / Manufacturer).
Us members of the Oughtred Society ( http://www.oughtred.org/ ) will continue to “do our bit” individually, and as a Society, to preserve this very, VERY important mathematical heritage.
Please help us to preserve the heritage by either “joining up”, or just visit EBay and buy one or two!!
“Slop tongues like you need to get back under your rock, open your mind, keep the shit out of your mouth, and offer some things positive.” ——— No Shit Sherlock
You’re not going to send me a Christmas Card this year, are you?
“I am the last auto mechanic that can speak four languages … (and) studies string theory …”
—-pierrelafonte
I initially thought, “Holy shit, a French wrench bender who’s a linguist and reads about violins.” Then I noted the physics and math connection and decided to google “string theory.” Imagine my surprise.
You need to take your skills to a trade school, Frenchy. Fix a car while instructing students who speak your languages and explain why it hurts so much when you drop a 10-pound torque wrench on your foot (law of gravity). That’s good for $100 grand a year, minimum.
What I remember most about high school in the 60’s is that no matter what class, one would lose points off a a test score for penmanship, grammar, and spelling errors. Since I had poor penmanship and often dropped letters I took some hits on otherwise excellent test scores. Since then, the computer with spell check helps some, but sometimes my grammar bites me in the ass.
Stucky, I wish you’d just shut up about Calamity. I enjoy both of your posts. Stop pissing around about a 25-year-old kid. A man of your stature should be above that.
I believe math education began to decline after the slide rule was supplanted by the electronic calculator.
Zara’s first calculator:
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Thinking about ignorant people who don’t even know they’re ignorant, my mind immediately went to Obama. He’s assured us, for example, that global warming – or climate change, or increasingly variable weather or whatever they’re calling it this week – is a certainty. What I’d like to see is some reporter stand up in one of Obama’s biannual press conferences and ask President Science, “Mr. President, what’s six times sixteen?” Boy, that would be one long awkward pause. (I’d also like someone to surprise him with, “Mr. President, have you ever had sex with a man?”)
“A man of your stature should be above that.” ——– Pirate Jo
Sadly, that appears to not be the case. I’ll try harder.
I agree with Pirate Jo about Stucky and Calamity. I’ve been following this site recently. Stucky has some good posts and a few are great. If Stucky were short and sharp with his criticism but not coarse or cruel, I think he has following enough to set the right tone for this site.
Z…. I think you’re right about math education. With the slide rule we had to think about powers, decimal places, and do a little extrapolating. Slide rule math definitely was not mindless, calculator math.
I read “Surely You’re Joking Mr. Feynman” many years ago and was impressed with Richard Feyman’s math skills. I got to thinking…We men should all be know the multiplication tables up to 12 times 12, know the squares of numbers up to 25, and be able to multiply two digit numbers in our heads. Practically and once and a while for other purposes the skill comes in handy. They’re skills easily acquired too.
Another skill Feynman had was picking up girls. The Noble Prize winner deserved another kudo for his revelations on that subject. If your friends have any trouble there, sic them onto Dick.
I love Clams! She is a yoot (ute?). Yoots are the future of this country. I was also once a petulant not-too-smart yoot, and look how nice I turned out. So, let us all band together and do out best to patiently help ClamUte become a better person. Our S.S. checks depend on it. Go Clams!
There. I hope that satisfies you fuckers.
Pirate Jo says: “A man of your stature should be above that.”
Anonymous says: “If Stucky were short…”
What does height have to do with anything?
No Shit Sherlock says: “Don’t derade TBP with your trash talk.”
Derade away, Stucky, the Shitless Dick Tracy hasn’t got a clue.
Kids don’t actually have to write anymore. The writing examples look like tweets, and you can tweet anything, cogent or not. The same with texting. I don’t think kids will be able to put more than a sentence or two together before long, and won’t be able to form thoughts much beyond the scope of instinctual desires (sleep, shit, eat, move, fuck). Have you ever tried to have a conversation with a teenager? They can text at 80 words a minute, but can’t vocalize complete thoughts. Technology is making people exponentially stupider, as are schools that are competing with technology for the student’s attention.
The school of the future will have teachers downloading Netflix content to show students on 100 inch LED screens in the classroom, while they smoke and complain and collect their $12,000 per student in the teacher’s lounge. Kids will be taxed to complete an entire paragraph, which will become the new 5 page essay of old. It’s pathetic.
TV and tech has turned kid’s attention span into 6 second blocks. No beginning, middle or end, just bang, bang, bang of unformed ideas and staccato synapses, all equaling nothing. Decerebrated brain stems only.
Aw Dang, No Shit Liplock is Clammy, sorry Clams.
Dem Bergtraum kids ratchet af
Like that, AWD?
Seriously, how many of you think Obama could answer “What’s 6 X 16?” in less than 15 seconds without a calculator? I really think he couldn’t.
I can’t believe how much shit Stuck puts up with. He humors the fucking idiots snapping around his heals like chihuahuas instead of slamming their heads against the wall like they deserve. Even Llpoh humors some of the idiots on this site. It didn’t used to be like this. People that mouthed off got their asses reamed and sent away screaming like little babies with cholera. Now everyone is concerned about the horrifying thumbs down, and the disapproval of the crowed. Political correctness and tolerance and consideration of everyone’s opinion. It’s pretty sad. Smokey would be rolling over in his grave, if he was buried in a grave, instead of his bunker. Thank goodness for Billy, he don’t put with anybody’s shit.
The new, kinder and gentler Stuck. Sharing recipes and hand-holding with the religious nutjobs.
Maybe he’ll share with you the story when he threatened to go over to admin’s house and beat him up, or when he threatened some asshole here on TBP and got called into the police station for questioning.
The decline of formal education is just another symptom. Apathy , among a host of other ailments, is consuming this country. All needs can be siphoned somehow from someone else, usually brokered by the State. Motivation towards self betterment / self responsibility is a relic from the past.
Several guys at work had that shit smelling attitude, nothing they ever said was positive. It must have affected their health or they were already sick and it affected their mood. Either way, poor attitude and poor health went hand in hand.
I love the anonymous posters that recommend folks refrain from profanity, abuse, etc.
Cowards.
This site is fine as it is.
Go fuck yourselves. I mean that in the nicest possible way. Use lots of lube, and go fuck yourselves.
Stuck – if you start being all nice, you know what will happen. You will be attacked from all sides. Never give the bastards an inch, or they will take a mile.
Jackson, I wrote a long ass post about that subject and then it was lost when my cable internet farted. I remember when math teachers refused to allow students to use calculators in class or for exams. Electronic calculators didn’t become ubiquitous overnight because they were expensive. Decent ones cost well over $100 in 1972 dollars.
I have completely forgotten how to use a slide rule. I still take occasional shit from boomer engineers because I use a TI, rather than an HP 11C with reverse polish notation, (yes, not only do they still use, this 35 year old fossil, but there is an app available of it for smart phones). Well fuck me!, I couldn’t afford one of those when I was in college. It does have a cool game where you try to land the LEM on the moon after programming it for a half hour.
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“I can’t believe how much shit Stuck puts up with” ——— AWD
Ha! I treat most of it like water off a duck’s back. A lot of it recently comes from Newbies who simply don’t understand how I operate. Fuck ’em. I’m good, I think, with most of the regulars here, and that’s nice … except that asshole SSS who votes me down just to piss me off. And, Nonanonymous. And, Mr. Copy and Paste. Shit, the list is longer than I thought.
I am dismayed that my attempt to treat Clams with respect has been rebuffed with two Down Votes. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. So, fuckit. I’m putting her back on my shitlist. Why bother trying to be decent if there is no reward? Clams sucks! So go ahead and vote this down too. I don’t give a rats ass. Blow Me.
Lord knows I tried.
Stucky, just remember to keep living Reason #32. It’s easy to let harshness increase with other’s stupidity. Just don’t let it change you.
Three cheers for STUCKY, LLOPH, EL GORDO, and AWD.
I think that with enough shit throwing and name calling you should be able to drive off Clammy, Pirate Jo, No Shit Sherlock, and any other dissenters from this site.
My experience is that with unrelenting hate talk any group can dominate any discussion.
Keep Throwing the Shit says:
“Three cheers for STUCKY, LLOPH, EL GORDO, and AWD.”
I don’t belong in that grouping, the three amigos are excellent and intelligent commenters. I am in the peanut gallery.
“Stucky, just remember to keep living Reason #32. It’s easy to let harshness increase with other’s stupidity.” ————– Thinker
Yeah, well even a duck doesn’t stay dry forever.
I’m growing tired of the bullshit. More and more in the past few weeks I’ve been thinking I need a long break from this place. In the past “long breaks” meant a day, or two tops. I’m thinking I need to take a break for 2-4 weeks. This shit is getting old, fast.
EL GORDO writes,
“The Shitless Dick Tracy hasn’t got a clue,” and
” No Shit Liplock is Clammy, sorry Clams.
EL GORDO… right, you’re not one of the big shits… your just a little shit.
But keep on throwing the shit just the same.
That’s the way to get those shits you don’t like off JQ’s TBP
Sorry, Shit, but still, it isn’t my intention to send anybody away. JQ wants you to stay and that’s fine with me. The only one that can make you leave is you. You know why Clammy is still here? She’s tough. Tough is a good trait here. Billy is tough, bb is tough. And that dickdragger LLPOH is way tough, don’t mess with him, ever.
reminds me of that old western scene: man yells into saloon, big john’s coming! everybody scrambles. big ass dude walks in and demands, GIVE ME A WHISKEY. yeh,yeh,yes, sir, says the saloonkeep. AND HURRY UP, demands big dude, BIG JOHN’S COMING!
Stucky ,evolution has never been observed in A LABORATORY.It is not a theory ,speculation or real science.IT IS A LIE that men use to rationalize their own sexual sin.If evolution is real science then prove it or be nice to clammy as a judgement from God.
There’s to many feely, greeky pussies on this site.If you can’t take the shit tossed up by Stucky or LIpoh then how will you ever survive when the S H T F.Grow a set people ,you’re going to need it.
T4C says:
“5. Don’t visit TBP thereby putting several regulars through DT’s Lite.”
“The Future”
Give me back my broken night
my mirrored room, my secret life
it’s lonely here,
there’s no one left to torture
bb says:
“Grow a set people ,you’re going to need it.”
you can tell bb’s been drinking the LLPOH Kool-Aid. Cool.