Outside the Box: Employers Aren’t Just Whining – The “Skills Gap” Is Real

Outside the Box: Employers Aren’t Just Whining: The “Skills Gap” Is Real

By John Mauldin

 

Paul Krugman and other notables dismiss the notion of a skills gap, though employers continue to claim they’re having trouble finding workers with the skills they need. And if you look at the evidence one way, Krugman et al. are right. But this week an interesting post on the Harvard Business Review Blog Network by guest columnist James Bessen suggests that employers may not just be whining, they may really have a problem filling some kinds of jobs.

Unsurprisingly, the problem is with new technology and the seeming requirement that workers learn new skills on the job – you know, like when the student pilot has to take the helm of a 747 in a disaster movie. Perhaps there’s not quite the same pressure in the office or on the factory floor, but the challenges can be almost as complex. Most of us have had the experience of needing to learn completely new ways of doing things, sometimes over and over again as the technology for whatever we’re doing keeps changing.

The proverb about old dogs and new tricks is being reversed, as old dogs are required to learn new tricks to keep up with the rest of the old dogs, not to mention the new pups. It’s either that or go sit on the porch. What follows is not a very long Outside the Box, but it’s thought-provoking.

There hasn’t been much happening in Uptown Dallas chez Mauldin. Lots of reading, routine workouts, long phone conversations with friends, and the occasional appearance of offspring. The amount of material hitting my inbox has slowed down considerably as well, although I know that will change in a week as everyone comes back from holidays. And even if we’re not on vacation, there is a certain slack we seem to cut ourselves in late summer.

Growing up, Labor Day marked the beginning of a brand new school year. Even though many school districts have pushed the start time back a few weeks, Labor Day seems to be a sort of national mental reset button that tells us we must refocus our attention on the tasks in front of us.

So, even with a somewhat reduced schedule, deadlines loom, and I have to do research on secular stagnation. It’s an interesting topic, but the stuff I’m reading about it reminds me to wonder why economists and investment writers feel they have to write in a way that is utterly stultifying and bone-sapping. A course or two in creative writing, with a focus on the creation of a narrative and some attention paid to the concept of a slippery slope ought to be requirements for an economics degree. Not that I have one – and maybe that’s my advantage.

Have a great week, and enjoy these last few days of August.

Your worried about how our kids will deal with the changing work landscape analyst,

Have a great week, and remember that robots need jobs too.

Your wanting more automation in his life analyst,

John Mauldin, Editor
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Employers Aren’t Just Whining – the “Skills Gap” Is Real

By James Bessen   |   10:00 AM August 25, 2014
Harvard Business Review HBR Blog Network

Every year, the Manpower Group, a human resources consultancy, conducts a worldwide “Talent Shortage Survey.” Last year, 35% of 38,000 employers reported difficulty filling jobs due to lack of available talent; in the U.S., 39% of employers did. But the idea of a “skills gap” as identified in this and other surveys has been widely criticized. Peter Cappelli asks whether these studies are just a sign of “employer whining;” Paul Krugman calls the skills gap a “zombie idea” that “that should have been killed by evidence, but refuses to die.” The New York Times asserts that it is “mostly a corporate fiction, based in part on self-interest and a misreading of government data.” According to the Times, the survey responses are an effort by executives to get “the government to take on more of the costs of training workers.”

Really? A worldwide scheme by thousands of business managers to manipulate public opinion seems far-fetched. Perhaps the simpler explanation is the better one: many employers might actually have difficulty hiring skilled workers. The critics cite economic evidence to argue that there are no major shortages of skilled workers. But a closer look shows that their evidence is mostly irrelevant. The issue is confusing because the skills required to work with new technologies are hard to measure. They are even harder to manage. Understanding this controversy sheds some light on what employers and government need to do to deal with a very real problem.

This issue has become controversial because people mean different things by “skills gap.” Some public officials have sought to blame persistent unemployment on skill shortages. I am not suggesting any major link between the supply of skilled workers and today’s unemployment; there is little evidence to support such an interpretation. Indeed, employers reported difficulty hiring skilled workers before the recession. This illustrates one source of confusion in the debate over the existence of a skills gap: distinguishing between the short and long term. Today’s unemployment is largely a cyclical matter, caused by the recession and best addressed by macroeconomic policy. Yet although skills are not a major contributor to today’s unemployment, the longer-term issue of worker skills is important both for managers and for policy.

Nor is the skills gap primarily a problem of schooling. Peter Cappelli reviews the evidence to conclude that there are not major shortages of workers with basic reading and math skills or of workers with engineering and technical training; if anything, too many workers may be overeducated. Nevertheless, employers still have real difficulties hiring workers with the skills to deal with new technologies.

Why are skills sometimes hard to measure and to manage? Because new technologies frequently require specific new skills that schools don’t teach and that labor markets don’t supply. Since information technologies have radically changed much work over the last couple of decades, employers have had persistent difficulty finding workers who can make the most of these new technologies.

Consider, for example, graphic designers. Until recently, almost all graphic designers designed for print. Then came the Internet and demand grew for web designers. Then came smartphones and demand grew for mobile designers. Designers had to keep up with new technologies and new standards that are still changing rapidly. A few years ago they needed to know Flash; now they need to know HTML5 instead. New specialties emerged such as user-interaction specialists and information architects. At the same time, business models in publishing have changed rapidly.

Graphic arts schools have had difficulty keeping up. Much of what they teach becomes obsolete quickly and most are still oriented to print design in any case. Instead, designers have to learn on the job, so experience matters. But employers can’t easily evaluate prospective new hires just based on years of experience. Not every designer can learn well on the job and often what they learn might be specific to their particular employer.

The labor market for web and mobile designers faces a kind of Catch-22: without certified standard skills, learning on the job matters but employers have a hard time knowing whom to hire and whose experience is valuable; and employees have limited incentives to put time and effort into learning on the job if they are uncertain about the future prospects of the particular version of technology their employer uses. Workers will more likely invest when standardized skills promise them a secure career path with reliably good wages in the future.

Under these conditions, employers do, have a hard time finding workers with the latest design skills. When new technologies come into play, simple textbook notions about skills can be misleading for both managers and economists.

For one thing, education does not measure technical skills. A graphic designer with a bachelor’s degree does not necessarily have the skills to work on a web development team. Some economists argue that there is no shortage of employees with the basic skills in reading, writing and math to meet the requirements of today’s jobs. But those aren’t the skills in short supply.

Other critics look at wages for evidence. Times editors tell us “If a business really needed workers, it would pay up.” Gary Burtless at the Brookings Institution puts it more bluntly: “Unless managers have forgotten everything they learned in Econ 101, they should recognize that one way to fill a vacancy is to offer qualified job seekers a compelling reason to take the job” by offering better pay or benefits. Since Burtless finds that the median wage is not increasing, he concludes that there is no shortage of skilled workers.

But that’s not quite right. The wages of the median worker tell us only that the skills of the median worker aren’t in short supply; other workers could still have skills in high demand. Technology doesn’t make all workers’ skills more valuable; some skills become valuable, but others go obsolete. Wages should only go up for those particular groups of workers who have highly demanded skills. Some economists observe wages in major occupational groups or by state or metropolitan area to conclude that there are no major skill shortages. But these broad categories don’t correspond to worker skills either, so this evidence is also not compelling.

To the contrary, there is evidence that select groups of workers have been had sustained wage growth, implying persistent skill shortages. Some specific occupations such as nursing do show sustained wage growth and employment growth over a couple decades. And there is more general evidence of rising pay for skills within many occupations. Because many new skills are learned on the job, not all workers within an occupation acquire them. For example, the average designer, who typically does print design, does not have good web and mobile platform skills. Not surprisingly, the wages of the average designer have not gone up. However, those designers who have acquired the critical skills, often by teaching themselves on the job, command six figure salaries or $90 to $100 per hour rates as freelancers. The wages of the top 10% of designers have risen strongly; the wages of the average designer have not. There is a shortage of skilled designers but it can only be seen in the wages of those designers who have managed to master new technologies.

This trend is more general. We see it in the high pay that software developers in Silicon Valley receive for their specialized skills. And we see it throughout the workforce. Research shows that since the 1980s, the wages of the top 10% of workers has risen sharply relative to the median wage earner after controlling for observable characteristics such as education and experience. Some workers have indeed benefited from skills that are apparently in short supply; it’s just that these skills are not captured by the crude statistical categories that economists have at hand.

And these skills appear to be related to new technology, in particular, to information technologies. The chart shows how the wages of the 90th percentile increased relative to the wages of the 50th percentile in different groups of occupations. The occupational groups are organized in order of declining computer use and the changes are measured from 1982 to 2012. Occupations affected by office computing and the Internet (69% of these workers use computers) and healthcare (55% of these workers use computers) show the greatest relative wage growth for the 90th percentile. Millions of workers within these occupations appear to have valuable specialized skills that are in short supply and have seen their wages grow dramatically.

This evidence shows that we should not be too quick to discard employer claims about hiring skilled talent. Most managers don’t need remedial Econ 101; the overly simple models of Econ 101 just don’t tell us much about real world skills and technology. The evidence highlights instead just how difficult it is to measure worker skills, especially those relating to new technology.

What is hard to measure is often hard to manage. Employers using new technologies need to base hiring decisions not just on education, but also on the non-cognitive skills that allow some people to excel at learning on the job; they need to design pay structures to retain workers who do learn, yet not to encumber employee mobility and knowledge sharing, which are often key to informal learning; and they need to design business models that enable workers to learn effectively on the job (see this example). Policy makers also need to think differently about skills, encouraging, for example, industry certification programs for new skills and partnerships between community colleges and local employers.

Although it is difficult for workers and employers to develop these new skills, this difficulty creates opportunity. Those workers who acquire the latest skills earn good pay; those employers who hire the right workers and train them well can realize the competitive advantages that come with new technologies.

More blog posts by James Bessen

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James Bessen

James Bessen, an economist at Boston University School of Law, is currently writing a book about technology and jobs. You can follow him on Twitter.

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James Strait
James Strait
August 27, 2014 7:29 pm

I remember reading over twenty-five years ago that the then average of a tool-and-die maker was fifty-five…and that there weren’t any new trainee’s in the pipeline. I knew then we were in deep trouble. That unpleasant reality is now revealing itself across the spectrum of skilled labor.

The real bummer is it will take at least one generation to play catch-up once we decide that catch-up needs to be played. Tic tock…

Gubmint Cheese
Gubmint Cheese
August 27, 2014 9:00 pm

You want tool and die makers?

There is a whole city of former ones in Meadville PA. Can’t hardly swing a dead cat there without hitting one. Plenty to choose from. All kinds of equipment for sale/auction.

Used to be nicknamed Tool City.

It is home of Crescent Hand tools, The modern zipper and Dad’s Pet Food.

I remember in the late 90’s, the tool shops used to recruit with offers on the job training with help wanted ads on the local radio stations.

The work started to go to Asia in the late 90’s.

Aquapura
Aquapura
August 27, 2014 9:37 pm

Oh…horse $hit! I’m not that old (35) and went to a university that had a large engineering college. Most of my friends are engineers. EE, ME, IE, etc. Most of them are not doing engineering anymore. Jobs were either off shored for cheap labor or the business just dried up. The ones that are doing well went back for MBA’s and are pushing paper for six figures. One mechanical engineer I know is managing a local bank branch. That’s our modern SERVICE ECONOMY idiots!

Now, if you consider running a C&C mill skilled labor, ok, I’m sure you can find someone that can do it, I did it before as a college summer job. It’s NOT THAT HARD for anyone that is willing to learn. Residents of the 30 blocks of squalor probably don’t qualify but my buddy managing the bank surely could do it. The problem? He’s overqualified for that job. Skilled workers that are willing to work for peanuts doesn’t exactly exist. Are you going to pay $25/hr starting? I didn’t think so.

The tragedy is the guys that design the machines that “skilled” workers operate have been put out of work by Asian engineers willing to work for nothing.

starfcker
starfcker
August 28, 2014 12:08 am

How did these two pieces of propaganda get on this site?

mabuk
mabuk
August 28, 2014 2:05 am

@Aquapura

FYI, I think you meant CNC — C&C was a successful music factory from the ’90s before they were downsized due to significant dance music headwinds.

Nonanonymous
Nonanonymous
August 28, 2014 5:43 am

Horse shit is right! How many of these whiny accountants are willing to pay to train someone?

Zero. That’s why manufacturing left for a slave labor economy. The BRICS seem to be doing just fine, they’re not socialists. Europe and the US are the only one’s with the lack of sense to think that someone who doesn’t work and doesn’t contribute to society should be allowed free stuff.

I live in a town home community. Renters have moved in because owners can’t sell, and no one works! They’re raising their kids on government cheese, medicaid, disability, selling, and using drugs. It’s amazing the wheels haven’t come off sooner, but America’s collapse, if and when it comes, will be short and violent.

That will also signal the end of US hegemony overseas. We’ll be lucky to avoid being invaded.

TPTB are attempting to diffuse this threat by internationalizing the borders. Yeah, good luck with that. Invasion by any other name.

I feel for those who are out of work and can’t find a job. Where are the LL’s of the world? Driven out of business by government regulation. Oh, the humanity!

Winston
Winston
August 28, 2014 6:40 am

My God. This article is complete and utter bullshit. It belongs in Fortune.com. Good thing we don’t have a shortage of blowhard wannabe economists that rarely, if ever right about anything.

Mauldin has wrote some goofy shit, but this takes the fucking cake. A true PR piece for corporate Amerika.

mabuk
mabuk
August 28, 2014 8:24 am

@Nonanonymous: “The BRICS seem to be doing just fine, they’re not socialists”

Actually, they *are* socialist countries, at least in name and public policy pronouncements. Let’s do a roll call:

Brazil — left-leaning populist socialist model installed by Lula and still run by his handpicked successor
Russia — former Comintern HQ
India — socialist since 1947
China — the largest Communist government still in operation, and probably the most free market of the bunch

I see socialism as only one symptom of the greater problems in the West: the debt hangover, the aging demographics (throw Russia in that group), shrinking domestic demand, dying industries, and a culture bereft of a clue. The Western markets have completed their cycle of growth and are at the end of life’s great highway, maybe as simple as that.

Otherwise, I agree with everything you said.

TeresaE
TeresaE
August 28, 2014 9:14 am

As a former external headhunter, and an eternal Director of Recruiting (and HR) for a “new tech” telecom start up, I have so much to say about this.

Here is the deal from a headhunter that was finding employees when unemployment was 2.9%

1. Very few, very, very, few, HR “experts” no a freaking thing about the jobs they are hiring for. They have a piece of paper from a manager that contains the managers want list of skills for the new employee. You can tell what this list contains by reading their job posting. The words in the ad match the words on the list and you better bet if your resume doesn’t match, you won’t get the job EVEN IF you have the right skills. The clerks and assistants that are tasked to do the first sort on the applications are even worse. If a company can’t “find” good people, I can nearly guarantee that the company’s HR is the problem. Of course, HR is also the best department at justifying themselves and their insanity, so odds are strong you will never get the executives to figure this out.

2. If it is NEW technology, how in the HELL can they look for candidates with experience? I once had a job open that I was having one helluva time finding applicable skills. It took an hour meeting with the VP of IT for me to figure out what he was looking for. There were not 20 people in the WORLD with the skills he was looking for. Seriously. 20 people, most of them outside the country and making millions. Yeah, I’ll convince them to move here for a $150k job. After I educated him on the impossibility of what he was asking, I then educated myself and called a couple of the guys and bought them/their wives dinner to talk to me about how they got their skills. Again, crappy HR leads to crappy results. New technology WILL require on the job training and nobody walking in with the skills.

3. Well, really, there isn’t 3, finding good employees with existing skills is not hard. What is hard is finding managers that realize their JOB is employee development and skill building.

Yep, OUR entry level grads can’t do the jobs, but an entry level from India, or China, or France, can? Even after adding in the basic communication issues? I call major BS on that claim.

Sad that the bigger companies (and smaller ones that try to emulate the big guys), are so dense with people trying to justify their own continued jobs that it makes most of them unable to actually do it.

If a company tells me they “can’t find” people, that tells me something is wrong with the company, not the applicants.

I used to agree with Mauldin quite a bit, but this is the second time that has me shaking my head and wondering whom’s payroll the guy now finds himself on? He is actively pushing to bring in more foreigners to assist in driving down our wages. That’ll help us. Sure it will. Next up he’ll be telling us how Buffett moving corps out of the country will be beneficial to the middle class.

Two strikes Mr. Mauldin, I nearly done with you.

TeresaE
TeresaE
August 28, 2014 9:14 am

Dammit, not “eternal director” (thank gawd), INTERNAL. Yes folks, I didn’t last forever, it just felt that way to my bosses.

TeresaE
TeresaE
August 28, 2014 9:17 am

Oh dear. I seem to have forgotten every rule I’ve ever known about spelling, or grammar.

When reading resumes I call this “Death By Spellcheck.”

I KNOW better than to rant and type while my wee one is chattering away.

So sorry. Please forgive my transgressions, and, of course, WPES!

Dutchman
Dutchman
August 28, 2014 9:33 am

Bessen is so full of shit.

The idea of getting an education is about learning to think, creatively solve problems, and sharpen your ability to learn.

This asshole Bessen gives the example of ‘graphic designers’ there is no mention of quality of art. This guy would pass up Leonardo Davinci, for someone with Android ‘skills’.

The HR people are complete fucking morons also.

What it boils down to is the empty suits that run these businesses have no idea how to treat people, or to develop their skills.

Stucky
Stucky
August 28, 2014 10:06 am

“Two strikes Mr. Mauldin, I’m nearly done with you.” ————- TeresaE

Nearly? lol

You don’t see me commenting on a Mauldin article anymore. I’ve been “done” with that blowhard a long time ago. I’ll keep a reservation for you in my MES organization.

overthecliff
overthecliff
August 28, 2014 10:25 am

An education is learning to think. Learning to read would be an advantage. The other day I heard a 19 year old say I don`t read. That is sad and scarey.

GilbertS
GilbertS
August 28, 2014 10:29 am

Seems to me all these professional engineers mentioned above merely haven’t found the new economy yet. You’re a tool and die maker, as mentioned above. Your legitimate tool and die job is now in China. What do you do?
The black market has a number of positions for you to fill right now! You can go entry level and design illegal pot grow houses, go mid-level and design Walter White Meth labs, or go pro-grade and build illegal weapons.

ragman
ragman
August 28, 2014 11:10 am

Paul Krugman is a fucking idiot! He can get on an airliner with a 200hr wonder in the right seat, not me. Said wonder is supposed to handle the airplane and land it if the Captain becomes incapacitated. Fat chance! Not a US carrier, FAA rules changed recently and a First Officer must have an ATP. The Airline Transport Pilot check ride is very difficult(as it should be) and every maneuver must be performed perfectly, no 2nd chance. All this to get a shitty job with a Regional that starts at $20K/yr. This is why very few young folks are learning to fly. The whole world is running out of pilots and the Mid East and Asia are siphoning off the best. Just a comment on my little corner of the world that absolutely substantiates this excellent article.

GilbertS
GilbertS
August 28, 2014 11:14 am

Why do I feel like Atlas Shrugged reading this stuff?
“Hey, kid, you know how to drive a train?”
“Yes, Sir! I did 100 hours in the simulator!”
“OK, take this here train through that tunnel. It’s a wood-burner, so it’s not as fast as the simulator, but you’ll do OK.”
“Roger, Sir! You can count on me!”
“Hey, where are you guys running to? You’re gonna miss the train!”

TeresaE
TeresaE
August 28, 2014 11:14 am

@overthecliff, I’d like to kick his parents’ asses.

Kids that don’t read come from parents that don’t read. My son will not read novels, or history, but he is an avid reader of all techie and inventive. He daily expands his mind through the written word. His dad doesn’t read anything except the local paper. Sometimes. My daughter is nine and our house is caving in under her (and ours) books. She spends her allowance on them, she asks for them, she wants them as gifts. Her father and I are avid readers, so is she.

Most 19 year olds have been raised by the TV, now internet, generation of parents. Which is how I could tell 30 years ago that this country was in deep sheisse and it was going to get deeper.

GilbertS
GilbertS
August 28, 2014 11:23 am

My little one is 21 months and she picks up books left and right. She can’t read em’, but she wants to look at them. I read to her all the time. She loves books. She has a mountain of books from the local used book store. My favorites are the Brian Floca ones that explain how a locomotive or lightship or the Apollo 11 mission worked.

James Strait
James Strait
August 28, 2014 11:26 am

Ragman, your points are salient and well taken. In today’s world, aviation is a lousy way to make a living…but the future is a pilotless one. The ill paying right seat jobs won’t be missed by the logic circuits taking the humans place.

Read about the future of aviation in my new novel about WWIII.

TeresaE
TeresaE
August 28, 2014 11:32 am

Gilbert, nicely done. I’m a firm believer in reading habits beginning before the child can read. My children both had bedtimes stories (and nap, and any other time) from nearly their first year.

My sister’s kids did not, and she raised three non/barely reading adults.

Strange, no?

Tommy
Tommy
August 28, 2014 11:35 am

I employ millenials. Like it or not, its like looking for gold in a silver mine. I’m not judging, but all of the other folks I talk to around the nation who do what I do, say the same thing, you have to screen vast volumes of them to find the best available for whatever it is you do and pay/etc., you’ll have to hire extra since it takes more of them to do the job and the job still takes longer!……and I mean alot longer…..THAT is where nearly ALL of my price increases go.

I have millenial children, and as much as I try and do work to make them unlike their peers – its an uphill battle (but I’m winning and not like Sheen).

But that’s just the way it is. Admin knows what it is I do for a living, I bet he can see what I’m saying – and I know Jim is not a millenial-basher (nor am I, at least today). Just callin’ it like I see it.

BUCKHED
BUCKHED
August 28, 2014 12:26 pm

Hmm…well most of manufacturing has gone over seas so the incentive to learn the skill set to run CNC isn’t there in some locations .Running a CNC machine is easy…programing is harder .

We recently spent months looking for an ME that was both qualified and wanted to work for 80% of what he could have made 10 years ago.

I’ve dealt with companies form India,South Africa,Mexico and Brazil.. their quality SUCKS, their engineers SUCK ! However they are cheap as hell.

Nonanonymous
Nonanonymous
August 28, 2014 9:25 pm

Mabuk, communist is the same as socialist. India, China, Russia do not provide a social safety net, at least not that one would recognize in the west!

I don’t know about Brazil, but they seem to to have their share of poverty and slums. Slums in the west are populated with minorities, not their own kind.

The west far surpasses the brics in social spending programs, I’m sure in just about every measure. Who are you kidding?

Westcoaster
Westcoaster
August 28, 2014 9:26 pm

I ain’t buying it. This is the line companies like Microsoft use to pump up their “need” for H1B visa workers. Meantime thousands of EE’s with plenty of experience can’t find jobs or at the least any jobs paying anything close to what H1B’s will take.
I have first-hand experience of this; a software/internet company I worked for several years ago had a room full of H1B’s from Bulgaria; owner had total control of these poor peons including rent and transportation. Step out of line and it’s back to Bulgaria. Product was soooooo fucking bad I finally had to leave.
Bottom line, the companies are whining not because they can’t FIND qualified workers, it’s they can’t find qualified workers who will work for peanuts.

mabuk
mabuk
August 29, 2014 2:05 am

@Nonanonymous —

The social safety net comes in many different forms of social spending and subsidization in developing countries, which use it to protect interests and curry favor at all levels. Of course it doesn’t come in the form of outright welfare payments to consumers, so comparison can be difficult, but running a business in any of those countries mentioned (again, probably less so in China) is *very hard*. Producers are drained for the purposes of corruption by officials more often than the West, producer prices are often fixed or heavily regulated by gov’t agencies, new entrants are often restricted from join different markets under the auspices of the gov’t “protecting the people from the abuses of business”, labor movements stalk the periphery carrying clubs, etc. — so those businesses that do survive and thrive only do so through strong networks of suppliers, customers and gov’t officials, all lubricated with great amounts of cash — not to mention a lot of law breaking.

As a percentage, its hard to say how much flows into the hands of the people, but the gov’t and politicians wield the populace around like a weapon, and to keep those people happy, transfers are made — ie. less preferred producers forced to sell at a loss “to the people”, or labor contracts made ironclad regardless of employee performance to “protect our workers against capitalist exploitation”, or gov’t largess for popular programs such as fuel subsidies. So as tough as it is to start a business and run it profitably in the US, try it outside for a while — after the gov’t gets done raping you, the rest of the locals will come by to pick the bones clean.

I am around this shit daily, I see how the sausage is made in SE Asia so I am not an expert on Brasil or Russia but can easily extrapolate from there.

TE
TE
August 29, 2014 9:56 am

@mabuk, that doesn’t sound much different from here.

People in America have NO idea how difficult it is for their boss to keep the doors open due to all those issues you are claiming are Asian/third world.

We may not have outright graft in all places, but we sure as hell are constantly hit on by every government agent from local, state and federal.

Degrees. I’ve often heard it is cheaper – relatively – to pay off the corrupt Mexican official than comply with our ridiculous regulations. Anecdotal for sure, but the dark commercial buildings in the US are surely proof of it on many levels.

Just sayin’

mabuk
mabuk
August 29, 2014 11:30 am

@TE — yep, there is a shakedown everywhere, the US suffers from official corruption in the form of tax layered upon tax making life nearly unbearable for the producers, so I can certainly sympathize with the plight.

What I meant to illustrate was the difficulty of operating a successful company within these offshore environments. So for the behemoths — the Starbucks, the Nikes, the Newmonts — it is a simple function: first, you back up the truck, then you dump whatever defective and unnecessary shit that you want to sell to the locals, *or* load up on whatever plunder required by the global markets –all as easily as plugging into a light socket courtesy of the local branch of some big five accounting firm — and the only exertion you encounter is in keeping track of all those zeros appending onto the end of your revenue. For all the others, it will usually end in tears as contracts are unenforceable, the legal systems radioactive, local partners as loyal as a banker, and your very best staff are those too stupid to earn some real money, either by escaping to the West or working in a position that would afford some decent wages via corruption.

So it could be a difference of degrees as you mention, but what I see is an official writ authorizing seizure of your legal assets vs. a more informal barter system — personally I prefer negotiating the bazaar instead of being powerless to the leviathan.