Natural gas – methane – that gets into aquifers simply “boils out” of solution without imparting any toxicity at all. The fact is that people living in areas like West Virginia and Pennsylvania had been kindling the methane content right from the tap long before dirigible horizontal drilling, selective casing perforation, and hydraulic pressure fracturing (the whole technique subsumed by the slang term “fracking”) had come into use.
Calling it “poison” is pure progtard willful stupidity.
Such “mineral water” (gotten from springs where methane has sifted up through naturally-fractured deep-rock strata) has, in fact, long been valued so much that people have gotten rich bottling and selling the stuff.
IndenturedServant
April 7, 2015 7:21 am
I’m glad they only waited until the fourth year of the drought to impose significant water restrictions.
starfcker
April 7, 2015 7:47 am
The answer is simple. All they need to do is levy a big fat tax on water. Or they could bring jamie dimon on board and start charging market rates. I saw jamie propose this fix ten years ago at the aspen institute. Bechtel fixed bolivia this way. Save the baitfish
starfcker
April 7, 2015 7:53 am
Ten years ago south florida was in the grip of a massive, permanent drought. We were going to have to change the way we lived forever. Lake okeechobee was at an alltime low. The aquifers were so dry, saltwater intrusion threatened to destroy them permanent ly. Every year was the driest in recorded history. Our heroic officials were in a panic.
starfcker
April 7, 2015 7:59 am
Jeb bush andCharlie christ stood up and made the tough choices. Should we spend billions building more reservoirs, desalination, maybe reroute the mighty mississippi, tow some icebergs? One thing was for sure, whatever the fix was, it needed to be painful, and expensive
starfcker
April 7, 2015 8:04 am
Strangely enough, we elected rick scott, and he did things a little different. He cut the south florida water management district budget by 30%, laid off 400 staffers, made them sell their air force. And it worked. It broke the drought. Sensible solution to an intractable problem.
Bea Lever
April 7, 2015 9:09 am
A whole year of water reserves, no problem. Atlanta has come within months, that’s months, of being out of water. Truth be known, that is because their water was being sold to Florida and if I can remember correctly also to Alabama. The same crooks that control our water controls Atlanta’s water.
A pitiful site to see Lake Lanier down to just a few feet of water in depth, while the residents of Atlanta freak out. The whole thing was a created shortage, which is what cartels do best!! Yes, we have a water cartel called Violia Water that passes itself off as a “water management” company just doing good things for the community.
I find the drought in Cali to be very strange.
bb
April 7, 2015 9:50 am
I would hate to be in Los Angeles when the golden horde is trying to get out.There’s only a couple of interstates going into the city with many a traffic jam in normal times.It will be a nightmare.
Mark
April 7, 2015 9:54 am
Not sure market rates or taxes on water works in this case.
They maybe out of water at any price. Certainly, some of the ecology is going to have to collapse.
Gayle
April 7, 2015 9:56 am
The northern/central part of the state is under a deluge this morning. Somebody must be praying.
Chicago999444
April 7, 2015 10:25 am
If CA users had paid market rates for water from the outset, the state wouldn’t be in this predicament now. If users there had used only the water they themselves could pay for, and if the only water projects built were those that the local taxing authority could pay for, the population of the state would be less than half what it is, if even, and agriculture would be limited to those crops that could be grown in semi-arid and arid climates.
It is because the taxpayers of the country at large have been providing the West with massive water projects, from the Hoover Dam to about 8,000 other federal water projects, that the region, especially CA, has become so overpopulated relative to its native water supply, and has been made to support so much water-intensive agriculture.
You get what you incentivize, and we have incentivized massive waste and mis-allocation of natural resources.
EL Coyote
April 7, 2015 10:48 am
bb says:
I would hate to be in Los Angeles when the golden horde is trying to get out.There’s only a couple of interstates going into the city with many a traffic jam in normal times.It will be a nightmare.
There is a mass exodus every weekend heading to LV. Drought would hardly qualify as an emergency event. As I-S said, they’ve waited 4 years..
Chicago999444
April 7, 2015 11:00 am
Mark, market rates “work” in that they price resources according to need and availability (“demand and supply”).
When a resource is scarce, people desiring to use it must mediate the situation by choosing to either A. conserve the resource, or B. engage in lifestyles and activities that require less of the resource, or C. import the resource, or D. repair to a place where the resource is more plentiful
The choice of the west has been to, first, manage, and then, import the resource by means of thousands of massive dams, reservoirs, and aquaducts. The Colorado has been tapped almost dry, as have been the Stanislaw, the Feather, and almost every other river in CA or AZ that will support a dam. CA already takes water from the Columbia, whose waters will be an increasingly contested resource in the years ahead. This has all only been possible with massive gifts from the federal government.
The arid states have also pumped their fossil water supplies almost to extinction.
Unless this drought ends very soon, and CA gets enough rain in the next couple of years to refill all those reservoirs, people there will have to start making the unpleasant choices they should have had to make 65 years ago at least, which is to either relocate, or adjust to a much different lifestyle, one that comports with the constant scarcity of water.
starfcker
April 7, 2015 11:07 am
Chicago, market rates, what the fuck does that mean? We conquered a continent so we could live on it, not so some asshats could make money rentseeking. Government can and should do certain things. Providing fresh, clean and ample water is one of those things
Billy
April 7, 2015 11:25 am
Government can and should do certain things. Providing fresh, clean and ample water is one of those things
Oh fuck no…
You one of those “Water is a human right!” assbags like in Detoilet? Don’t want to pay your fuckin’ water bill, so you go fuckin’ crying to the UN about it?
Name ONE THING “the Government” has gotten involved in that they haven’t fucked up beyond all recognition – and YOU want them running our water supply?
Food – and water – are mankind’s oldest weapon. “Support my regime or do the following, or I’ll cut off your food/water supply and you get to watch your kids slowly die”.
And you want to put that power into the hands of Statist cocksuckers….
Shyeah…
starfcker
April 7, 2015 12:01 pm
Oh fuck yes. You’re never going to hear me cry about ‘rights’. Not my speed. Detroit folk need to pay their water bills. But would I rather have my city in charge of water delivery than jp morgan? Absolutely. Only thing I want jamie dimon providing for me is my license plate. Name one thing, billy? Ok. How about………..water? I turn the faucet, and on every single day of my life, clean water
KaD
April 7, 2015 12:01 pm
California has a huge coastline-why hasn’t anyone thought of building some desalination plants?
Tim
April 7, 2015 12:47 pm
@ KaD:
I tend to agree with you, in the long term. That’s the only solution that makes sense, in my mind.
In the short term, there’s lots of negatives with the desalinization, as I understand it. I’m not an expert by any stretch, but I think that desal is not yet energy positive. Also, environmental concerns with disposal of the waste material.
But the only way to improve technology is to get started and learn from mistakes. It seems like it would be better to build desal now, improve on the technology in the years to come so that there is a long-term future for desal.
Also, the sunlight seems like an important part of this equation. I know it’s possible to build a small scale solar still for a household. Wonder if that will scale up?
Administrator
Author
April 7, 2015 12:57 pm
California: A Microcosm For Impending Global Water Crisis
Submitted by Darrell Delamaide via OilPrice.com,
The move by California to require mandatory cuts in water use for the first time in its history has highlighted the world’s looming water crisis and increased the focus on the links between sustainable water and sustainable energy.
“We need a new paradigm,” says Steven Solomon, author of Water: The Epic Struggle for Wealth, Power and Civilization. “The days when we could just go further into the mountains and find new sources of water are past. We need to make better use of the water we have.”
The good news is that this offers opportunities for investors in everything from IBM’s development of smart metering for water use to more mundane technology like devices to detect water leaks.
“Mexico City loses 40 to 50% of its water to leaks,” says Solomon. “American cities lose 20 to 30%. Finding those leaks alone could save a lot of water.”
The new “toolkit” for dealing with the water crisis already exists, Solomon says, with a number of techniques available for “adaptive systemic management” of water.
Wastewater treatment, for instance, can recycle water and save energy at the same time. “The sludge can be used as fuel to provide energy for the treatment,” Solomon says.
Individuals can do much of this themselves, recycling their own wastewater as “gray water” for things like watering the lawn that do not require drinking quality water.
In the wake of California’s announcement, the Ygrene Energy Fund pointed out that property assessed clean energy (PACE) financing can be used for water upgrades as well.
“Though PACE financing is widely recognized as a mechanism for funding residential solar power, Ygrene Works PACE financing also offers funding for rainwater cisterns, water saving sprinkler system, drip irrigation, artificial turf and low flow plumbing,” the fund said in a statement.
The financing can also help property owners pay for water-saving upgrades that ease the impact of regulations prohibiting water use.
The long-term drought cycle in California and the U.S. Far West has long been predicted, but the water crisis goes well beyond this regional phenomenon.
Tetra Tech said last week it has been awarded a five-year, $1 billion contract from the US Agency of International Development (AID) to collect data and develop innovative approaches to cope with pressure on water resources from climate change, population growth and energy demands in developing countries.
Schlumberger and Halliburton have been working to address the massive use of water in hydraulic fracturing for oil and gas by developing ways of recycling the water used in the process.
“Companies are in the forefront of dealing with this crisis,” says author Solomon.
But governments, too, from municipalities to international organizations like the World Bank, are focusing more attention on water issues.
New York state legislators are trying to get a $250 million grant program to assist municipalities in funding water infrastructure projects that they can leverage with further borrowing.
The World Bank has scheduled a special panel discussion on water sustainability in conjunction with the spring meeting of the IMF/World Bank in Washington this month that will bring together experts from California, Nevada, Brazil, Namibia and Morocco along with project managers from the bank.
This is the kind of response that is necessary, according to Solomon. Water sustainability will require big projects like restoring wetlands and forest, adapting reservoirs and distribution systems, and even renegotiating longstanding water rights contracts based on assumptions that are no longer valid.
“We have to look at the water ecosystem in a holistic way,” he says, “if we want to be sure there is enough water in the system.”
Sensetti
April 7, 2015 1:08 pm
KaD there is a huge desalination project underway
The Carlsbad Desalination Project will provide San Diego County with a locally-controlled, drought-proof supply of high-quality water that meets or exceeds all state and federal drinking water standards.
After twelve years of planning and over six years in the state’s permitting process, the Carlsbad Desalination Project has received final approvals from every required regulatory and permitting agency in the state, including the California Coastal Commission, State Lands Commission and Regional Water Quality Control Board. A 30-year Water Purchase Agreement is in place between the San Diego County Water Authority (SDCWA) and Poseidon for the entire output of the plant. Construction on the plant and pipeline is under way and the Project will be delivering water to the businesses and residents in San Diego County late 2015.
Poseidon specializes in developing and financing water infrastructure projects, primarily seawater desalination and water treatment plants. Poseidon’s projects are implemented through innovative public-private partnerships that link private financing with the construction and operation of water supply and treatment projects.
Billy
April 7, 2015 1:13 pm
But would I rather have my city in charge of water delivery than jp morgan?
Dude, you’ve lost your fuckin’ mind.
Your make the strawman argument that the choice is between Evil motherfucking sociopaths or Sociopathic evil motherfuckers.
Our water plant is a co-operative. There was a big fuckin’ stink a few years ago where the fucking government wanted to take control of it. All you fucking heard were agitprop commercials by either faction:
“Leave your water supply up to the vagaries of the market? Oh HELL NO!”
“Leave your water supply up to the fucking Government? Oh HELL NO!”
So, our water company is a co-operative. So is the coal plant. My water bill is about 20 bucks a month, and it’s been that way for about 5 years now.
But those dickbags made it such a politically divisive issue that we’ve decided that at some point in the near future, we’re going to have a well drilled on our property and everyone involved can just fuck right off (except us, of course).
I get your hatred of the banksters, but dude? The answer isn’t to hand over ownership/running the water company over to the assholes responsible for damn near every egregious outrage against the citizenry for the past 200 years…
Government running the fucking show? Historically, not awesome… especially since the banksters just want your money. The G could – at some point – want you dead…
ragman
April 7, 2015 1:24 pm
Bea: WTF are you talking’ about? South Florida gets its H2O from the Biscayne Aquifer. North FL has many sources including the Apalachicola watershed which does begin north of Atlanta. Pls explain how Atlanta sells water to Florida.
Sensetti
April 7, 2015 1:28 pm
Water is not the problem. Everyone knows God hates Californication? If they solve the water problem it will be locusts, Earthquakes, or just one big ass tsunami coming on shore, something is going to take their Godforsaken asses out. Personally I think the brown plague is going to carry the entire region back to its motherland, Mexico. However, I do think it’s worth a try to set up drill rigs and set charges all the way down the San Andreas fault in an attempt to dislodge the entire problem from the rest of our land mass. I’m sure the good Lawd would bless our effort. What says you?
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Billy
April 7, 2015 1:37 pm
@ Sensetti,
If the problem with California is the people in it, then why do we have to destroy the land?
Just hit them with a bunch of localized EMP’s, then seal the border (or seal the borders, then EMP them). Sit back and eat cornflakes while they kill each other over the last can of organically grown, meat-free, vegetarian Beanee Weenies? Give them about a year or so and when their population is about 10% of what it is now, then move in and take over. They’ll be in no shape to do anything about it.
Of course, that would involve telling Me-hi-co to fuck right off and blockading the coast, but I think it would be worth it. Then, when the fucking Yankees see what happens to Commiefornia, maybe they’ll have a Come To Jeebus moment and start un-fucking themselves… or at least shut the fuck up.
EL Coyote
April 7, 2015 1:46 pm
Folks who use words like progtard, golden horde, Californication, etc. have foregone thinking for the facile shortcut provided by the media. There is only one reason you people (Ha!) hate the Golden State, your not here. I know Sensetti and Stucky have lived here, but the rest of youse have not. I read somewhere that Easterners are secretly jealous of California residents and are in fact perpetually depressed because of their shitty weather.
The truth that is buried under the stereotype of liberal Califonia is that it is a coastline inhabited by all manner of white folks by the millions. While the Inland Empire is predominantly Hispanic, the inland areas north of LA are po’ white townships. Easterners parachuting into California push the urban masses outwards and into the small communities once the sole province of po’ whites. The Antelope Valley was once such a place.
You want to do something about the drought? Stop coming here. Stay your ass back in Hooterville and Mud Hollow.
Why the California drought will be worse than everyone thinks
By David Weidner
Published: Apr 7, 2015 5:45 a.m. ET
Water, not the Federal Reserve, will drive inflation higher
SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) — We’re told by economists that the California drought is no cause for concern to the nation. The agriculture industry isn’t being forced into additional cuts. Food prices will increase only slightly.
Stephen Levy, director and staff economist at the Center for Continuing Study of the California Economy in Palo Alto argues that the market will correct a water imbalance. The state can eventually draw from new sources — desalination plants, diversions from Canada, and Washington and Oregon, to name a couple states. Some state crops including cotton and alfalfa will likely be phased out.
As for prices, “the big price moves have had to do with housing and energy,” Levy said. “Food is a relatively small impact when moving the index [Consumer Price Index, or CPI].”
Likewise, Daniel A. Sumner, an economist at the University of California, Davis, doesn’t think price increases are imminent. He points out that California agriculture is just a part of the national food supply and that food prices are subject to much shifting global demand. He also notes that farmers have invested in wells to offset shortages. It’s working as a stopgap for price increases in a gap that’s growing shorter.
“Even a 10% price increase — larger than I think is likely — the effect on the CPI will be very small,” Sumner said.
It’s silly to think that California will shed industry, population and food production even with a prolonged drought.
Sumner puts a 10% increase in California food prices at 0.06% of CPI. But should the drought continue, and prices rise 20%, it would add 0.12% to CPI.
It all sounds very reassuring. After all, so what if a quart of strawberries that used to cost $5 now costs $6?
No big deal — unless these economists are wrong. And, frankly, there’s a pretty strong case that should the drought persist, say another two to three years or more, prices will skyrocket. Remember, California is the biggest farm state in the nation, producing more than Iowa, Nebraska and Minnesota combined.
Sumner concede: “If this sort of unprecedented lack of water continues, then each year more cropland and more crops will face reductions in supply and prices will be more affected.”
The drought could have an even greater economic impact than pricier strawberries. Consider that food represents nearly 5% of gross domestic product, 13% of household expenditures, 9.2% of U.S employment and 14% of manufacturing jobs. California’s annual agriculture receipts come in at $21.4 billion.
And despite Gov. Jerry Brown’s April 1 executive order for the state’s water authorities to cut consumption by 25%, that effort is far short from being meaningful. Agriculture, which is exempt from Brown’s order, uses 80% of California’s water.
How California delivers water to agriculture is a byzantine process full of agencies, contracts and systems. Some farmers will get more water than others. But two general policies show how dire the situation is: The federal Central Valley Project, the state’s biggest agricultural water authorities, told its local districts that it would not allocate any water for 1 million acres of farmland it serves this year, about 10% of the state’s farmland being used for crops. The state water system expects to deliver 20% of the water it promised.
Already some economists are predicting sharp increases of 28% and 34% for many crops including lettuce, berries, broccoli, grapes, melons, tomatoes, peppers and packaged salads. Nuts — almonds, walnuts and pistachios — are almost all grown in California, and are intensive water users. California produces 90% or more of the nation’s supplies in those crops, according to the Department of Agriculture.
California farm acreage is shrinking as water rations have tightened. Among the hardest hit are rice, cotton, hay and corn fields. About 1 million acres have been cut from production this year.
In the short term, California’s agriculture industry is drawing on its once-vast underground lakes to make up for available surface water. About half of the water used by the state last year came from underground. How long farmers can do it is up for debate. No agency knows or tracks how much is being pumped.
What is known: The water being pumped in many parts of the state is 10,000 to 30,000 years old. and the ground is sinking. A study by the U.S. Geological Survey of the nation’s underground water reserves was discouraging enough, but its examination of California aquifers found that levels were at record lows — and that was in 2008.
A report in National Geographic in August found that farmers who once drilled 500 feet for groundwater were drilling as far as 2,000 feet, more than a third of a mile, to hit water in some parts of the state. The cost of wells is getting more expensive, with total costs approaching $1 million.
It’s silly to think that California will shed industry, population and food production even with a prolonged drought. Already there is talk about building desalination plants, and building canals from the northern states and British Columbia. California, with a stand-alone GDP of $2.2 trillion, is able to buy its way out of the water shortage.
But the high cost and scarcity of water in California is going to create upheaval. Can farmers shift production? Can the state build an alternative infrastructure to move in water? Will residents cut enough to buy time? Will any of it happen fast enough?
Economists such as Levy and Sumner point out that California produce is a tiny part of GDP, that gas and housing prices matter more. Perhaps. But we don’t buy and sell our homes every year and we can adjust our fuel spending. On the flip side: Everyone has to eat.
That’s why the calming voices of the California drought sound a little too cool. A storm is coming, whether it be inflation or rain.
Sensetti
April 7, 2015 2:05 pm
Of course you are correct. I really would like to keep Yosemite, the Giant Redwoods, and don’t forget Bigfoot, no sense in that poor bastard having to take a boat ride. We”ll go with your plan.
Sensetti
April 7, 2015 2:08 pm
Last post was to be addressed to Billy, I hit send before I intended too. Damn Porn sites have my IPad all fucked up.
Billy
April 7, 2015 2:20 pm
Awww, lookit El trying to stick up for Aztlan… how cute. Sort of like a retard fucking a doorknob or a turtle fucking a flip-flop is kind of cute…
And trying to create divisiveness by saying large parts of the state are Whitey Acres, while simultaneously slandering rural areas and telling us to stay the fuck out? That’s just darling…
Bless your heart, El…
EL Coyote
April 7, 2015 2:23 pm
Sarcasm and patronizing baby talk is also a Troll tactic.
Sensetti
April 7, 2015 2:26 pm
Coyote
I live in that shithole for two and a half years. Started out in El Cajon, then moved to Anaheim, onto Bakersfield, and then finally Cameron Park just west of Placerville. So I got a pretty good look at the place
EL Coyote
April 7, 2015 2:37 pm
I can appreciate your opinion of the place better than I can Billy’s impression based on Dragnet re-runs.
bb
April 7, 2015 2:40 pm
El Coyote , I don’t hate California in fact I love the weather. The golden horde includes any mass of people migrating from one place to another.Hispanics in Los Angeles will have to do something when the goes completely off.They will have to go somewhere. This includes you.What will you do?
Persnickety
April 7, 2015 2:43 pm
“Started out in El Cajon, then moved to Anaheim, onto Bakersfield, and then finally Cameron Park just west of Placerville.”
How on God’s green earth do you string together those four cities? The first two I get, but then – it’s like WOAH, how the fuck did I end up in Bakersfield? Were you just randomly sent places as missionary or something? Why not add Compton and Napa to the list?
bb
April 7, 2015 2:44 pm
Damn smart phone going crazy again. Oh I see the problem. No bars.
Stucky
April 7, 2015 2:46 pm
“There is only one reason you people (Ha!) hate the Golden State, your not here.” — El Coyote
First of all, it’s “YOU’RE not here.”.
Second, that’s a lie. It’s the same reasoning Kentsucky fans claim as to why the whole nation hates their team; “They’re just jealous of our success!”. No! You’re a bunch of cheating fuckers, that’s why.
I hate California for the same reason I hate NJ; libtard, fucknut, tree-lovers, corrupt, Oreo lovers, fruits, nuts, flakes, and fags. CA is only worse … cuz all the shit starts there FIRST, and then spreads like a plague to the rest of the country.
If the Russians nuked Califuckynation, I might actually send them a “thank you” note.
NickelthroweR
April 7, 2015 2:51 pm
Greetings,
I do not understand the hatred expressed for California and the people that live here (I’m in Cali). Sure, we send lunatics to Congress, but that isn’t just a problem with our state. The entrepreneurial spirit here is like no place I’ve ever lived (Ohio, Texas, N. Carolina, S. Carolina, Alabama & Arizona). Just amongst my small circle of friends, I have: wind turbine generation, speaker manufacturer, a car builder and designer, clothing manufacturing, documentary film makers, custom bicycle parts, camera accessory manufacturing and, of course, I own Black Box Analog Design which makes, right here in America, some of the most sought after boutique audio gear on this planet.
I could not do what I do in any other state because the best transformers in the world CINEMAG are hand made right here in California. The absolute best metal fabrication shop is right here in California. Just about every single one of my vendors is right here in California. And, of course, many of my clients are here in California.
By ourselves, we are the 8th largest economy in the world paying out far more in federal taxes than we receive. Sure, we have a lot of problems but we are not afraid to confront them.
The town I live in has a vibrant mom & pop downtown and we very much limit (no walmart) big box retail here. Hell, it isn’t even legal to pollute the view by putting up billboards. Anyone wanting to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps should move here as they will be surrounded by like-minded people. Every single person I know is self employed.
Week after week I read Kunstler as he describes the zombies and the Walmart wasteland and I feel sorry for the rest of the country trapped in that paradigm.
EL Coyote
April 7, 2015 2:53 pm
bb, we had this situation back in the 90’s. Of course, back then the coastal population may have been less, Santa Clarita was smaller, so who knows?
Old Phil lived in Aerial Acres, a place I offensively called “predominantly po’ white”, but is in fact inhabited by low income folks of the Caucasian persuasion . He said he irrigated his lawn with water from the washing (warshing?) machine. We could go on to those primitive methods if need be.
EL Coyote
April 7, 2015 2:58 pm
Stucky says: If the Russians nuked Califuckynation, I might actually send them a “thank you” note.
We got you’re number, Putin puffer, you and Hanoi T4C are rooting for the Ruskies. Perhaps you want them to take Alaska back also?
bb
April 7, 2015 3:04 pm
Nickel Thrower didn’t you say you live on a sailboat. That’s a red flag all the way to Mars.Only two kinds of people live on sailboats in California. Faggots and……fill in the blank.
Sensetti
April 7, 2015 3:05 pm
I learned about valet parking in West Covina damn near hit the son of a bitch when he jerked my door open. He said sir this is valet parking I said, what the fuck is that, he said, I’ll park your car for you, I said well hell how cool is that. I proceeded into that bar with my best, I’m really not drunk look on. strange place, like nothing I had ever seen, there were mirrors on the floor, the bar was made of mirrors, the walls were all made of mirrors,the ceiling was made of mirrors, I was thinking what the hell is going on here. Then about 9 o’clock the music started, women started pouring in, I was like , damn gonna get some pussy tonight, then it happened, they turn the lights down and the disco lights came on I didn’t know if I was walking on the floor, the wall or the ceiling, I wasi fucked up beyond repair,it was too much for this redneck. I packed my drunk ass up and got out of there. I could not find my way back to my hotel the more I drove the more lost I became. I saw a cop parked in the middle of a shopping mall so I pulled in. I got out of my truck walked up to his window and he rolled it down about four inches and said, What do you want, I said sir I am drunk and lost and I would like you to take me to jail I have three thousand dollars on me and ill ail myself out in the morning. He said where are you staying?i said West Covina, he said Damn your 25 minutes from there, are you to drunk to drive? I said I made it to you, he said get in your truck and follow me. I followed him up this ramp down that ramp down this road up that road and finally pulled into my hotel. He rolled his window down and stuck his arm out and waved at me as he drove off. That was one cool cop! If I knew his name I wouldfindhim and give him 3k today, I ever even got to thank the man. I have often wondered if he ever sits around drinking with his buddies and tells the story of a drunk lost Redneck from Arkansas?
True story every last word.
So Coyote I know a little som ting bout calli there’s at least one damn fine cop that calls the place home. Billy and I will save him and his Kinifwecan find them,along with Bigfoot.
Stucky
April 7, 2015 3:05 pm
“Perhaps you want them to take Alaska back also?” —- EL Coyote
That all depends on how many Beaners live in Alaska, and whether or not they are taking over. In short; No Beaners = No Droppa Da Bombs
Bea Lever
April 7, 2015 3:20 pm
@RAGMAN
Please feel free to google “Florida water wars with Georgia”. SCOTUS is /was slated to hear the case about this water war. Same goes for water war with Alabama.
Truth is the Corp of Engineers sees to it water goes from Lake Lanier to Florida, creates a shortage and then Atlanta freaks. Trust me it’s true. I did not mean to imply that Atlanta sold off the water. It could be said the crooked politicians in Atlanta sold out their water supply.
VERY IMPORTANT- Know who controls your water supply.
PS We here in the Commonwealth are up to our collective asses in this strange liquid that TPTB keeps telling us is a lost supply…….that would be called FRESH water. Sort of like BostonBob was up to his ears in the stuff only frozen.
Sensetti
April 7, 2015 3:26 pm
Damn I hope you can read that shit I just laid down. I was on my iphone in the sun
Iska Waran
April 7, 2015 3:43 pm
Nicklethrower, You almost had me on your side until you started with “By ourselves, we are the 8th largest economy in the world …” I’ve explained this here before, but here it is again. California state domestic product (2013): $2.05 trillion. US GDP (2013): $16.8 trillion. CA’s share: 12.202%. California population 38.8 million. US population: 316.13 million. California’s share: 12.27%. So technically, CA’s economy is slightly underperforming their share of the population. Or, more simply, California has about 1/8 of the country’s population and 1/8 of the country’s economy. On the plus side, you do have about 90% of the country’s hubris, though, which explains why you’re so popular with the rest of the country.
NickelthroweR
April 7, 2015 3:49 pm
@bb
That is the kind of response I would expect from someone living in Zombieland. Kunstler describes obese klown-men going back and forth to Walmart whilst eating cheese doodlez. I imagine that to be you. Am I correct?
If living in the sun, walking to the beach each day, riding my bicycle around town (free of walmart), being surrounded by go-getting self employed people, beautiful people and good food make me a “faggot” then I guess I’m the biggest faggot on earth.
Have fun klown.
ragman
April 7, 2015 3:52 pm
Bea: I stand corrected. Water is indeed as precious as oil, maybe more so. Too many people using a limited resource. Another reason to totally STOP all immigration and deport the illegals.
NickelthroweR
April 7, 2015 3:56 pm
@Iska
We’re popular because we at least try. What was the last great thing to sweep the nation that came out of, say, New Mexico or Utah or Virginia? The East has the financial center and we’ve got the creative center and the rest is, sadly, Walmart. Of course, the Rust Belt, where I grew up, had the manufacturing center but the East sent it away.
Please tell me where you live and the contributions made by your local so we can put it all in perspective.
Iska Waran
April 7, 2015 4:21 pm
Nickel, CA is the source of much tech, most entertainment dreck and most of the pornography industry. Which has boosted its economy to the point where its per-capita GDP is…wait for it…about the same as the rest of the country. http://www.bea.gov/scb/pdf/2013/07%20July/0713_gdp_by_state.pdf I don’t know what’s swept out of Virginia because states other than California don’t go around talking about how great they are and how they’re the epicenter of civilization. It’s an accident of history that CA has most of the US’s Pacific coast (not counting Alaska). If eastern states with as much or more population (say, MA through Delaware) had been – through an accident of history – one state, their collective share of the US economy would be bigger than CA’s. They could say, “we’re the 4th largest economy” or whatever. So what? I live in MN. We have 19 Fortune 500 companies based here, which is respectable for a state with fewer than 5.5 million people. It’s enough so that our per-capita GDP is slightly higher than that of CA. Not that I would have brought it up if you hadn’t asked. We also lead the country in comedian US Senators, wrestler governors, water-skiing, ice fishing, fags, alcoholism and Al Shabaab recruiting. So there. And we seem to have all of the Mexicans who aren’t in California.
IndenturedServant
April 7, 2015 4:45 pm
Iska said:
“And we seem to have all of the Mexicans who aren’t in California.”
You might be right. I swear we have beaners here but they must be like roaches which scatter in the light. I know they’re here because of the ramshackle restaurant buildings painted royal purple, lime green and pumpkin orange and pink……….all on the same building. Fuckers must be color blind.
Sensetti
April 7, 2015 5:03 pm
Iska Waran says: and most of the pornography industry. Which has boosted its economy to the point where its per-capita GDP is…wait for it…about the same as the rest of the country.
Hole E shit we better start a petition to get them girls relocated. I would certainly consider footing the bill to relocate a couple of them to Arkansas and would let them work off the debt with multiple installments over 72 months. Having first passed a rigorous physical by the primary care Doctor of my choice. Anything to help!
Natural gas – methane – that gets into aquifers simply “boils out” of solution without imparting any toxicity at all. The fact is that people living in areas like West Virginia and Pennsylvania had been kindling the methane content right from the tap long before dirigible horizontal drilling, selective casing perforation, and hydraulic pressure fracturing (the whole technique subsumed by the slang term “fracking”) had come into use.
Calling it “poison” is pure progtard willful stupidity.
Such “mineral water” (gotten from springs where methane has sifted up through naturally-fractured deep-rock strata) has, in fact, long been valued so much that people have gotten rich bottling and selling the stuff.
I’m glad they only waited until the fourth year of the drought to impose significant water restrictions.
The answer is simple. All they need to do is levy a big fat tax on water. Or they could bring jamie dimon on board and start charging market rates. I saw jamie propose this fix ten years ago at the aspen institute. Bechtel fixed bolivia this way. Save the baitfish
Ten years ago south florida was in the grip of a massive, permanent drought. We were going to have to change the way we lived forever. Lake okeechobee was at an alltime low. The aquifers were so dry, saltwater intrusion threatened to destroy them permanent ly. Every year was the driest in recorded history. Our heroic officials were in a panic.
Jeb bush andCharlie christ stood up and made the tough choices. Should we spend billions building more reservoirs, desalination, maybe reroute the mighty mississippi, tow some icebergs? One thing was for sure, whatever the fix was, it needed to be painful, and expensive
Strangely enough, we elected rick scott, and he did things a little different. He cut the south florida water management district budget by 30%, laid off 400 staffers, made them sell their air force. And it worked. It broke the drought. Sensible solution to an intractable problem.
A whole year of water reserves, no problem. Atlanta has come within months, that’s months, of being out of water. Truth be known, that is because their water was being sold to Florida and if I can remember correctly also to Alabama. The same crooks that control our water controls Atlanta’s water.
A pitiful site to see Lake Lanier down to just a few feet of water in depth, while the residents of Atlanta freak out. The whole thing was a created shortage, which is what cartels do best!! Yes, we have a water cartel called Violia Water that passes itself off as a “water management” company just doing good things for the community.
I find the drought in Cali to be very strange.
I would hate to be in Los Angeles when the golden horde is trying to get out.There’s only a couple of interstates going into the city with many a traffic jam in normal times.It will be a nightmare.
Not sure market rates or taxes on water works in this case.
They maybe out of water at any price. Certainly, some of the ecology is going to have to collapse.
The northern/central part of the state is under a deluge this morning. Somebody must be praying.
If CA users had paid market rates for water from the outset, the state wouldn’t be in this predicament now. If users there had used only the water they themselves could pay for, and if the only water projects built were those that the local taxing authority could pay for, the population of the state would be less than half what it is, if even, and agriculture would be limited to those crops that could be grown in semi-arid and arid climates.
It is because the taxpayers of the country at large have been providing the West with massive water projects, from the Hoover Dam to about 8,000 other federal water projects, that the region, especially CA, has become so overpopulated relative to its native water supply, and has been made to support so much water-intensive agriculture.
You get what you incentivize, and we have incentivized massive waste and mis-allocation of natural resources.
bb says:
I would hate to be in Los Angeles when the golden horde is trying to get out.There’s only a couple of interstates going into the city with many a traffic jam in normal times.It will be a nightmare.
There is a mass exodus every weekend heading to LV. Drought would hardly qualify as an emergency event. As I-S said, they’ve waited 4 years..
Mark, market rates “work” in that they price resources according to need and availability (“demand and supply”).
When a resource is scarce, people desiring to use it must mediate the situation by choosing to either A. conserve the resource, or B. engage in lifestyles and activities that require less of the resource, or C. import the resource, or D. repair to a place where the resource is more plentiful
The choice of the west has been to, first, manage, and then, import the resource by means of thousands of massive dams, reservoirs, and aquaducts. The Colorado has been tapped almost dry, as have been the Stanislaw, the Feather, and almost every other river in CA or AZ that will support a dam. CA already takes water from the Columbia, whose waters will be an increasingly contested resource in the years ahead. This has all only been possible with massive gifts from the federal government.
The arid states have also pumped their fossil water supplies almost to extinction.
Unless this drought ends very soon, and CA gets enough rain in the next couple of years to refill all those reservoirs, people there will have to start making the unpleasant choices they should have had to make 65 years ago at least, which is to either relocate, or adjust to a much different lifestyle, one that comports with the constant scarcity of water.
Chicago, market rates, what the fuck does that mean? We conquered a continent so we could live on it, not so some asshats could make money rentseeking. Government can and should do certain things. Providing fresh, clean and ample water is one of those things
Government can and should do certain things. Providing fresh, clean and ample water is one of those things
Oh fuck no…
You one of those “Water is a human right!” assbags like in Detoilet? Don’t want to pay your fuckin’ water bill, so you go fuckin’ crying to the UN about it?
Name ONE THING “the Government” has gotten involved in that they haven’t fucked up beyond all recognition – and YOU want them running our water supply?
Food – and water – are mankind’s oldest weapon. “Support my regime or do the following, or I’ll cut off your food/water supply and you get to watch your kids slowly die”.
And you want to put that power into the hands of Statist cocksuckers….
Shyeah…
Oh fuck yes. You’re never going to hear me cry about ‘rights’. Not my speed. Detroit folk need to pay their water bills. But would I rather have my city in charge of water delivery than jp morgan? Absolutely. Only thing I want jamie dimon providing for me is my license plate. Name one thing, billy? Ok. How about………..water? I turn the faucet, and on every single day of my life, clean water
California has a huge coastline-why hasn’t anyone thought of building some desalination plants?
@ KaD:
I tend to agree with you, in the long term. That’s the only solution that makes sense, in my mind.
In the short term, there’s lots of negatives with the desalinization, as I understand it. I’m not an expert by any stretch, but I think that desal is not yet energy positive. Also, environmental concerns with disposal of the waste material.
But the only way to improve technology is to get started and learn from mistakes. It seems like it would be better to build desal now, improve on the technology in the years to come so that there is a long-term future for desal.
Also, the sunlight seems like an important part of this equation. I know it’s possible to build a small scale solar still for a household. Wonder if that will scale up?
California: A Microcosm For Impending Global Water Crisis
Submitted by Darrell Delamaide via OilPrice.com,
The move by California to require mandatory cuts in water use for the first time in its history has highlighted the world’s looming water crisis and increased the focus on the links between sustainable water and sustainable energy.
“We need a new paradigm,” says Steven Solomon, author of Water: The Epic Struggle for Wealth, Power and Civilization. “The days when we could just go further into the mountains and find new sources of water are past. We need to make better use of the water we have.”
The good news is that this offers opportunities for investors in everything from IBM’s development of smart metering for water use to more mundane technology like devices to detect water leaks.
“Mexico City loses 40 to 50% of its water to leaks,” says Solomon. “American cities lose 20 to 30%. Finding those leaks alone could save a lot of water.”
The new “toolkit” for dealing with the water crisis already exists, Solomon says, with a number of techniques available for “adaptive systemic management” of water.
Wastewater treatment, for instance, can recycle water and save energy at the same time. “The sludge can be used as fuel to provide energy for the treatment,” Solomon says.
Individuals can do much of this themselves, recycling their own wastewater as “gray water” for things like watering the lawn that do not require drinking quality water.
In the wake of California’s announcement, the Ygrene Energy Fund pointed out that property assessed clean energy (PACE) financing can be used for water upgrades as well.
“Though PACE financing is widely recognized as a mechanism for funding residential solar power, Ygrene Works PACE financing also offers funding for rainwater cisterns, water saving sprinkler system, drip irrigation, artificial turf and low flow plumbing,” the fund said in a statement.
The financing can also help property owners pay for water-saving upgrades that ease the impact of regulations prohibiting water use.
The long-term drought cycle in California and the U.S. Far West has long been predicted, but the water crisis goes well beyond this regional phenomenon.
Tetra Tech said last week it has been awarded a five-year, $1 billion contract from the US Agency of International Development (AID) to collect data and develop innovative approaches to cope with pressure on water resources from climate change, population growth and energy demands in developing countries.
Schlumberger and Halliburton have been working to address the massive use of water in hydraulic fracturing for oil and gas by developing ways of recycling the water used in the process.
“Companies are in the forefront of dealing with this crisis,” says author Solomon.
But governments, too, from municipalities to international organizations like the World Bank, are focusing more attention on water issues.
New York state legislators are trying to get a $250 million grant program to assist municipalities in funding water infrastructure projects that they can leverage with further borrowing.
The World Bank has scheduled a special panel discussion on water sustainability in conjunction with the spring meeting of the IMF/World Bank in Washington this month that will bring together experts from California, Nevada, Brazil, Namibia and Morocco along with project managers from the bank.
This is the kind of response that is necessary, according to Solomon. Water sustainability will require big projects like restoring wetlands and forest, adapting reservoirs and distribution systems, and even renegotiating longstanding water rights contracts based on assumptions that are no longer valid.
“We have to look at the water ecosystem in a holistic way,” he says, “if we want to be sure there is enough water in the system.”
KaD there is a huge desalination project underway
The Carlsbad Desalination Project will provide San Diego County with a locally-controlled, drought-proof supply of high-quality water that meets or exceeds all state and federal drinking water standards.
After twelve years of planning and over six years in the state’s permitting process, the Carlsbad Desalination Project has received final approvals from every required regulatory and permitting agency in the state, including the California Coastal Commission, State Lands Commission and Regional Water Quality Control Board. A 30-year Water Purchase Agreement is in place between the San Diego County Water Authority (SDCWA) and Poseidon for the entire output of the plant. Construction on the plant and pipeline is under way and the Project will be delivering water to the businesses and residents in San Diego County late 2015.
Poseidon specializes in developing and financing water infrastructure projects, primarily seawater desalination and water treatment plants. Poseidon’s projects are implemented through innovative public-private partnerships that link private financing with the construction and operation of water supply and treatment projects.
But would I rather have my city in charge of water delivery than jp morgan?
Dude, you’ve lost your fuckin’ mind.
Your make the strawman argument that the choice is between Evil motherfucking sociopaths or Sociopathic evil motherfuckers.
Our water plant is a co-operative. There was a big fuckin’ stink a few years ago where the fucking government wanted to take control of it. All you fucking heard were agitprop commercials by either faction:
“Leave your water supply up to the vagaries of the market? Oh HELL NO!”
“Leave your water supply up to the fucking Government? Oh HELL NO!”
So, our water company is a co-operative. So is the coal plant. My water bill is about 20 bucks a month, and it’s been that way for about 5 years now.
But those dickbags made it such a politically divisive issue that we’ve decided that at some point in the near future, we’re going to have a well drilled on our property and everyone involved can just fuck right off (except us, of course).
I get your hatred of the banksters, but dude? The answer isn’t to hand over ownership/running the water company over to the assholes responsible for damn near every egregious outrage against the citizenry for the past 200 years…
Government running the fucking show? Historically, not awesome… especially since the banksters just want your money. The G could – at some point – want you dead…
Bea: WTF are you talking’ about? South Florida gets its H2O from the Biscayne Aquifer. North FL has many sources including the Apalachicola watershed which does begin north of Atlanta. Pls explain how Atlanta sells water to Florida.
Water is not the problem. Everyone knows God hates Californication? If they solve the water problem it will be locusts, Earthquakes, or just one big ass tsunami coming on shore, something is going to take their Godforsaken asses out. Personally I think the brown plague is going to carry the entire region back to its motherland, Mexico. However, I do think it’s worth a try to set up drill rigs and set charges all the way down the San Andreas fault in an attempt to dislodge the entire problem from the rest of our land mass. I’m sure the good Lawd would bless our effort. What says you?
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@ Sensetti,
If the problem with California is the people in it, then why do we have to destroy the land?
Just hit them with a bunch of localized EMP’s, then seal the border (or seal the borders, then EMP them). Sit back and eat cornflakes while they kill each other over the last can of organically grown, meat-free, vegetarian Beanee Weenies? Give them about a year or so and when their population is about 10% of what it is now, then move in and take over. They’ll be in no shape to do anything about it.
Of course, that would involve telling Me-hi-co to fuck right off and blockading the coast, but I think it would be worth it. Then, when the fucking Yankees see what happens to Commiefornia, maybe they’ll have a Come To Jeebus moment and start un-fucking themselves… or at least shut the fuck up.
Folks who use words like progtard, golden horde, Californication, etc. have foregone thinking for the facile shortcut provided by the media. There is only one reason you people (Ha!) hate the Golden State, your not here. I know Sensetti and Stucky have lived here, but the rest of youse have not. I read somewhere that Easterners are secretly jealous of California residents and are in fact perpetually depressed because of their shitty weather.
The truth that is buried under the stereotype of liberal Califonia is that it is a coastline inhabited by all manner of white folks by the millions. While the Inland Empire is predominantly Hispanic, the inland areas north of LA are po’ white townships. Easterners parachuting into California push the urban masses outwards and into the small communities once the sole province of po’ whites. The Antelope Valley was once such a place.
You want to do something about the drought? Stop coming here. Stay your ass back in Hooterville and Mud Hollow.
Why the California drought will be worse than everyone thinks
By David Weidner
Published: Apr 7, 2015 5:45 a.m. ET
Water, not the Federal Reserve, will drive inflation higher
SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) — We’re told by economists that the California drought is no cause for concern to the nation. The agriculture industry isn’t being forced into additional cuts. Food prices will increase only slightly.
Stephen Levy, director and staff economist at the Center for Continuing Study of the California Economy in Palo Alto argues that the market will correct a water imbalance. The state can eventually draw from new sources — desalination plants, diversions from Canada, and Washington and Oregon, to name a couple states. Some state crops including cotton and alfalfa will likely be phased out.
As for prices, “the big price moves have had to do with housing and energy,” Levy said. “Food is a relatively small impact when moving the index [Consumer Price Index, or CPI].”
Likewise, Daniel A. Sumner, an economist at the University of California, Davis, doesn’t think price increases are imminent. He points out that California agriculture is just a part of the national food supply and that food prices are subject to much shifting global demand. He also notes that farmers have invested in wells to offset shortages. It’s working as a stopgap for price increases in a gap that’s growing shorter.
“Even a 10% price increase — larger than I think is likely — the effect on the CPI will be very small,” Sumner said.
It’s silly to think that California will shed industry, population and food production even with a prolonged drought.
Sumner puts a 10% increase in California food prices at 0.06% of CPI. But should the drought continue, and prices rise 20%, it would add 0.12% to CPI.
It all sounds very reassuring. After all, so what if a quart of strawberries that used to cost $5 now costs $6?
No big deal — unless these economists are wrong. And, frankly, there’s a pretty strong case that should the drought persist, say another two to three years or more, prices will skyrocket. Remember, California is the biggest farm state in the nation, producing more than Iowa, Nebraska and Minnesota combined.
Sumner concede: “If this sort of unprecedented lack of water continues, then each year more cropland and more crops will face reductions in supply and prices will be more affected.”
The drought could have an even greater economic impact than pricier strawberries. Consider that food represents nearly 5% of gross domestic product, 13% of household expenditures, 9.2% of U.S employment and 14% of manufacturing jobs. California’s annual agriculture receipts come in at $21.4 billion.
And despite Gov. Jerry Brown’s April 1 executive order for the state’s water authorities to cut consumption by 25%, that effort is far short from being meaningful. Agriculture, which is exempt from Brown’s order, uses 80% of California’s water.
How California delivers water to agriculture is a byzantine process full of agencies, contracts and systems. Some farmers will get more water than others. But two general policies show how dire the situation is: The federal Central Valley Project, the state’s biggest agricultural water authorities, told its local districts that it would not allocate any water for 1 million acres of farmland it serves this year, about 10% of the state’s farmland being used for crops. The state water system expects to deliver 20% of the water it promised.
Already some economists are predicting sharp increases of 28% and 34% for many crops including lettuce, berries, broccoli, grapes, melons, tomatoes, peppers and packaged salads. Nuts — almonds, walnuts and pistachios — are almost all grown in California, and are intensive water users. California produces 90% or more of the nation’s supplies in those crops, according to the Department of Agriculture.
California farm acreage is shrinking as water rations have tightened. Among the hardest hit are rice, cotton, hay and corn fields. About 1 million acres have been cut from production this year.
In the short term, California’s agriculture industry is drawing on its once-vast underground lakes to make up for available surface water. About half of the water used by the state last year came from underground. How long farmers can do it is up for debate. No agency knows or tracks how much is being pumped.
What is known: The water being pumped in many parts of the state is 10,000 to 30,000 years old. and the ground is sinking. A study by the U.S. Geological Survey of the nation’s underground water reserves was discouraging enough, but its examination of California aquifers found that levels were at record lows — and that was in 2008.
A report in National Geographic in August found that farmers who once drilled 500 feet for groundwater were drilling as far as 2,000 feet, more than a third of a mile, to hit water in some parts of the state. The cost of wells is getting more expensive, with total costs approaching $1 million.
It’s silly to think that California will shed industry, population and food production even with a prolonged drought. Already there is talk about building desalination plants, and building canals from the northern states and British Columbia. California, with a stand-alone GDP of $2.2 trillion, is able to buy its way out of the water shortage.
But the high cost and scarcity of water in California is going to create upheaval. Can farmers shift production? Can the state build an alternative infrastructure to move in water? Will residents cut enough to buy time? Will any of it happen fast enough?
Economists such as Levy and Sumner point out that California produce is a tiny part of GDP, that gas and housing prices matter more. Perhaps. But we don’t buy and sell our homes every year and we can adjust our fuel spending. On the flip side: Everyone has to eat.
That’s why the calming voices of the California drought sound a little too cool. A storm is coming, whether it be inflation or rain.
Of course you are correct. I really would like to keep Yosemite, the Giant Redwoods, and don’t forget Bigfoot, no sense in that poor bastard having to take a boat ride. We”ll go with your plan.
Last post was to be addressed to Billy, I hit send before I intended too. Damn Porn sites have my IPad all fucked up.
Awww, lookit El trying to stick up for Aztlan… how cute. Sort of like a retard fucking a doorknob or a turtle fucking a flip-flop is kind of cute…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R3BYCT5oWw
And trying to create divisiveness by saying large parts of the state are Whitey Acres, while simultaneously slandering rural areas and telling us to stay the fuck out? That’s just darling…
Bless your heart, El…
Sarcasm and patronizing baby talk is also a Troll tactic.
Coyote
I live in that shithole for two and a half years. Started out in El Cajon, then moved to Anaheim, onto Bakersfield, and then finally Cameron Park just west of Placerville. So I got a pretty good look at the place
I can appreciate your opinion of the place better than I can Billy’s impression based on Dragnet re-runs.
El Coyote , I don’t hate California in fact I love the weather. The golden horde includes any mass of people migrating from one place to another.Hispanics in Los Angeles will have to do something when the goes completely off.They will have to go somewhere. This includes you.What will you do?
“Started out in El Cajon, then moved to Anaheim, onto Bakersfield, and then finally Cameron Park just west of Placerville.”
How on God’s green earth do you string together those four cities? The first two I get, but then – it’s like WOAH, how the fuck did I end up in Bakersfield? Were you just randomly sent places as missionary or something? Why not add Compton and Napa to the list?
Damn smart phone going crazy again. Oh I see the problem. No bars.
“There is only one reason you people (Ha!) hate the Golden State, your not here.” — El Coyote
First of all, it’s “YOU’RE not here.”.
Second, that’s a lie. It’s the same reasoning Kentsucky fans claim as to why the whole nation hates their team; “They’re just jealous of our success!”. No! You’re a bunch of cheating fuckers, that’s why.
I hate California for the same reason I hate NJ; libtard, fucknut, tree-lovers, corrupt, Oreo lovers, fruits, nuts, flakes, and fags. CA is only worse … cuz all the shit starts there FIRST, and then spreads like a plague to the rest of the country.
If the Russians nuked Califuckynation, I might actually send them a “thank you” note.
Greetings,
I do not understand the hatred expressed for California and the people that live here (I’m in Cali). Sure, we send lunatics to Congress, but that isn’t just a problem with our state. The entrepreneurial spirit here is like no place I’ve ever lived (Ohio, Texas, N. Carolina, S. Carolina, Alabama & Arizona). Just amongst my small circle of friends, I have: wind turbine generation, speaker manufacturer, a car builder and designer, clothing manufacturing, documentary film makers, custom bicycle parts, camera accessory manufacturing and, of course, I own Black Box Analog Design which makes, right here in America, some of the most sought after boutique audio gear on this planet.
I could not do what I do in any other state because the best transformers in the world CINEMAG are hand made right here in California. The absolute best metal fabrication shop is right here in California. Just about every single one of my vendors is right here in California. And, of course, many of my clients are here in California.
By ourselves, we are the 8th largest economy in the world paying out far more in federal taxes than we receive. Sure, we have a lot of problems but we are not afraid to confront them.
The town I live in has a vibrant mom & pop downtown and we very much limit (no walmart) big box retail here. Hell, it isn’t even legal to pollute the view by putting up billboards. Anyone wanting to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps should move here as they will be surrounded by like-minded people. Every single person I know is self employed.
Week after week I read Kunstler as he describes the zombies and the Walmart wasteland and I feel sorry for the rest of the country trapped in that paradigm.
bb, we had this situation back in the 90’s. Of course, back then the coastal population may have been less, Santa Clarita was smaller, so who knows?
Old Phil lived in Aerial Acres, a place I offensively called “predominantly po’ white”, but is in fact inhabited by low income folks of the Caucasian persuasion . He said he irrigated his lawn with water from the washing (warshing?) machine. We could go on to those primitive methods if need be.
Stucky says: If the Russians nuked Califuckynation, I might actually send them a “thank you” note.
We got you’re number, Putin puffer, you and Hanoi T4C are rooting for the Ruskies. Perhaps you want them to take Alaska back also?
Nickel Thrower didn’t you say you live on a sailboat. That’s a red flag all the way to Mars.Only two kinds of people live on sailboats in California. Faggots and……fill in the blank.
I learned about valet parking in West Covina damn near hit the son of a bitch when he jerked my door open. He said sir this is valet parking I said, what the fuck is that, he said, I’ll park your car for you, I said well hell how cool is that. I proceeded into that bar with my best, I’m really not drunk look on. strange place, like nothing I had ever seen, there were mirrors on the floor, the bar was made of mirrors, the walls were all made of mirrors,the ceiling was made of mirrors, I was thinking what the hell is going on here. Then about 9 o’clock the music started, women started pouring in, I was like , damn gonna get some pussy tonight, then it happened, they turn the lights down and the disco lights came on I didn’t know if I was walking on the floor, the wall or the ceiling, I wasi fucked up beyond repair,it was too much for this redneck. I packed my drunk ass up and got out of there. I could not find my way back to my hotel the more I drove the more lost I became. I saw a cop parked in the middle of a shopping mall so I pulled in. I got out of my truck walked up to his window and he rolled it down about four inches and said, What do you want, I said sir I am drunk and lost and I would like you to take me to jail I have three thousand dollars on me and ill ail myself out in the morning. He said where are you staying?i said West Covina, he said Damn your 25 minutes from there, are you to drunk to drive? I said I made it to you, he said get in your truck and follow me. I followed him up this ramp down that ramp down this road up that road and finally pulled into my hotel. He rolled his window down and stuck his arm out and waved at me as he drove off. That was one cool cop! If I knew his name I wouldfindhim and give him 3k today, I ever even got to thank the man. I have often wondered if he ever sits around drinking with his buddies and tells the story of a drunk lost Redneck from Arkansas?
True story every last word.
So Coyote I know a little som ting bout calli there’s at least one damn fine cop that calls the place home. Billy and I will save him and his Kinifwecan find them,along with Bigfoot.
“Perhaps you want them to take Alaska back also?” —- EL Coyote
That all depends on how many Beaners live in Alaska, and whether or not they are taking over. In short; No Beaners = No Droppa Da Bombs
@RAGMAN
Please feel free to google “Florida water wars with Georgia”. SCOTUS is /was slated to hear the case about this water war. Same goes for water war with Alabama.
Truth is the Corp of Engineers sees to it water goes from Lake Lanier to Florida, creates a shortage and then Atlanta freaks. Trust me it’s true. I did not mean to imply that Atlanta sold off the water. It could be said the crooked politicians in Atlanta sold out their water supply.
VERY IMPORTANT- Know who controls your water supply.
PS We here in the Commonwealth are up to our collective asses in this strange liquid that TPTB keeps telling us is a lost supply…….that would be called FRESH water. Sort of like BostonBob was up to his ears in the stuff only frozen.
Damn I hope you can read that shit I just laid down. I was on my iphone in the sun
Nicklethrower, You almost had me on your side until you started with “By ourselves, we are the 8th largest economy in the world …” I’ve explained this here before, but here it is again. California state domestic product (2013): $2.05 trillion. US GDP (2013): $16.8 trillion. CA’s share: 12.202%. California population 38.8 million. US population: 316.13 million. California’s share: 12.27%. So technically, CA’s economy is slightly underperforming their share of the population. Or, more simply, California has about 1/8 of the country’s population and 1/8 of the country’s economy. On the plus side, you do have about 90% of the country’s hubris, though, which explains why you’re so popular with the rest of the country.
@bb
That is the kind of response I would expect from someone living in Zombieland. Kunstler describes obese klown-men going back and forth to Walmart whilst eating cheese doodlez. I imagine that to be you. Am I correct?
If living in the sun, walking to the beach each day, riding my bicycle around town (free of walmart), being surrounded by go-getting self employed people, beautiful people and good food make me a “faggot” then I guess I’m the biggest faggot on earth.
Have fun klown.
Bea: I stand corrected. Water is indeed as precious as oil, maybe more so. Too many people using a limited resource. Another reason to totally STOP all immigration and deport the illegals.
@Iska
We’re popular because we at least try. What was the last great thing to sweep the nation that came out of, say, New Mexico or Utah or Virginia? The East has the financial center and we’ve got the creative center and the rest is, sadly, Walmart. Of course, the Rust Belt, where I grew up, had the manufacturing center but the East sent it away.
Please tell me where you live and the contributions made by your local so we can put it all in perspective.
Nickel, CA is the source of much tech, most entertainment dreck and most of the pornography industry. Which has boosted its economy to the point where its per-capita GDP is…wait for it…about the same as the rest of the country. http://www.bea.gov/scb/pdf/2013/07%20July/0713_gdp_by_state.pdf I don’t know what’s swept out of Virginia because states other than California don’t go around talking about how great they are and how they’re the epicenter of civilization. It’s an accident of history that CA has most of the US’s Pacific coast (not counting Alaska). If eastern states with as much or more population (say, MA through Delaware) had been – through an accident of history – one state, their collective share of the US economy would be bigger than CA’s. They could say, “we’re the 4th largest economy” or whatever. So what? I live in MN. We have 19 Fortune 500 companies based here, which is respectable for a state with fewer than 5.5 million people. It’s enough so that our per-capita GDP is slightly higher than that of CA. Not that I would have brought it up if you hadn’t asked. We also lead the country in comedian US Senators, wrestler governors, water-skiing, ice fishing, fags, alcoholism and Al Shabaab recruiting. So there. And we seem to have all of the Mexicans who aren’t in California.
Iska said:
“And we seem to have all of the Mexicans who aren’t in California.”
You might be right. I swear we have beaners here but they must be like roaches which scatter in the light. I know they’re here because of the ramshackle restaurant buildings painted royal purple, lime green and pumpkin orange and pink……….all on the same building. Fuckers must be color blind.
Iska Waran says: and most of the pornography industry. Which has boosted its economy to the point where its per-capita GDP is…wait for it…about the same as the rest of the country.
Hole E shit we better start a petition to get them girls relocated. I would certainly consider footing the bill to relocate a couple of them to Arkansas and would let them work off the debt with multiple installments over 72 months. Having first passed a rigorous physical by the primary care Doctor of my choice. Anything to help!