I love these new questions-of-the-day. I hope Admin doesn’t feel that this is an attempt to compete … rather, the more the merrier.
The situation in Ukraine escalates to the point where the USA declares war on Russia … and war, indeed, erupts. Who will you support?
P.S. Be honest. Don’t worry about the NSA knocking on your door.
Stucky- in the movie “Red Dawn”, who did the US citizens have to depend on? Think about that for a few minutes and you will have my answer.
It dang sure won’t be Hussein. I don’t know what his trade treaty says, don’t trust his executive orders or staff/advisers, FEMA, etc, his conduct of the Mideast Wars or any potential war he starts with Russia. Like Vietnam deja vu, I didn’t support the war but didn’t want to harm America either. Let’s stop Hussein before he starts another war!!! .
will there be a choice? not likely..
Yeah, I don’t see myself being allowed a choice. One side demands my money and allegiance at gunpoint and has a long track record of imprisoning or killing those who dissent. Unfortunately they happen to have me surrounded.
Looks like we all agree we are on our own in this situation.
Your note reminded me of the inn keeper in 1984 that had been spying on Winston and Julia’s romantic affair.
To answer your question, it would be doubleplusungood for the U.S. to even consider such a matter as going to war with Russia over the Ukraine. I would hope Russia would repel our advances with as little loss of life as possible.
I’d hope we could focus our efforts, not on Russia invading a Russian speaking nation, but on repelling the millions of Spanish speaking illegals from invading our English speaking land. The U.S. recently surpassed SPAIN as the second largest Spanish speaking nation (48 million vs. 46 million). If we were serious about the so-called war on terror, there’s a wall that needs building and 93 million working age Americans aged 16-65 not in the labor force that can be called upon to do it.
No more brother wars.
There’s not nearly enough whites as it is… I refuse to support a war where the goal is to kill more whites, ideology aside.
Since war is a racket, then by default whatever reasons they conjure to go to war with Russia are invalid. Russia has not attacked us, therefore war is not justified. Picking a fight to shift the focus off your failed Administration and your insane domestic policy is not “justification”…
I will support neither.
@John A., there is in fact a loose group pushing for a “new world order” that will do away with true nation-states. They want this because it will enable a smaller group of elites to have even more power, and greatly diminish (at least for a few generations) potential challenges to their power.
I don’t like this future but I don’t know that I can do anything about it.
Hard call ,right now I would probably pull for the Russians if the war was over there. I would fight foreign troops on this soil to the death.( I’m 53 so I probably wouldn’t last long but I would fight )As IS said yesterday on another post ….motherfuckers better grow eyes in the back of their heads…
I absolutely detest this Damn government but the country and constitution are still worth fighting for.
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@Persnickety Agreed. I know there are varying opinions out there regarding the veracity of the Bible and people are free to consider it as they choose, but I believe it’s the inspired word of God and, as such, see three distinct parallels to your comment:
The first account is in the book of Genesis under King Nimrod (Tower of Babel), the second is in the book of Daniel under King Nebuchadnezzar, and the third is in the book Revelation under the system instituted by the “Beast.” It seems every ~2,500 years or so these things happen…
Sarcasm aside, I definitely think we’re trending toward a new world order and a concentration of power. I’m not a nationalist by any means and see nations as checks in the balance of power to small groups of men who wish to rule the world. Ironically we’ve had a major trend of small groups of men in each nation concentrating power. I guess there’ll just be a concentration of the concentrated.
The next major economic downturn, which I see as likely to happen within the next year, could be the impetus for the NWO to take a large step forward. They won’t let a crisis go to waste. Given their penchant for corrupt behavior in the financial realm, the NWO types like Soros, Buffet, et al. are largely responsible for the crisis anyway.
@John
The problem in the US isn’t the language being spoken but rather who it is that is speaking it. The illegal immigrants are largely from Central America (Mexico included). South Americans, particularly as you go further south, are very different from the Spanish-speakers from a ways north of the Equator, and these latter differ from the folks from nations north of the Darién Gap.
That said, the US should NOT provide ANY social services to those who do not enter legally. Those unable or unwilling to learn English should stay in their home countries Not everyone, English speakers included, can learn a second language and in Latin America, no slack is cut for English speakers outside of major tourist areas; the governments certainly don’t give English speakers the breaks that are given Spanish speakers in the US.
As for hypothetical war, outside of a small group that would like to see the US, Europe and Russia all go down in flames, one suspects that cooler heads would prevail before the point of war was reached.
Bea — didn’t see Red Dawn. But, reading a quick synopsis it appears the main protagonists are N, Korea … with Russia playing a minor role. I didn’t ask about North Korea. I don’t know what your answer is to the question.
I think Billy gives the best possible answer … and, the answer I was hoping to see. Neither!
To support the Russian side means killing (it is a war!!) Americans. Much as I loathe this government, THAT is even more loathsome and despicable.
To support the American side would be to support loathsome cocksuckers who hate us anyway. If they were to win such a war, we would lose even more freedoms. They would get what they want; slaves for life.
@Montefrío Well said. There’s a huge difference in culture, priorities, and careers between the friends I have from Colombia and Chile than those I have from El Salvador and Mexico. My great grandfather came to the U.S. from Spain (everyone else in my family came from Italy) and the best way to get him to charge after you was by calling him a Puerto Rican.
@Stucky The 1984 version of Red Dawn is a must see. Don’t waste your time with the 2012 version.
i just want t go on record as saying that i support everything out NSA and banker overlords are doing….
That’s like asking ‘Hillary or Jeb?’. They’re just actors on a stage – gotta think bigger. BIS baby, BIS.
Stucky- In the 80’s version of “Red Dawn” it’s the Russians and Cubans. The answer is neither, I just took a different route.
Ask Flash, he should know better than I, me being shit for brains and all.
Persnickety says: …there is in fact a loose group pushing for a “new world order” that will do away with true nation-states. They want this because it will enable a smaller group of elites to have even more power, and greatly diminish (at least for a few generations) potential challenges to their power.
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I heard an interesting take on the possibility of a NWO coming to fruition and the person said it won’t happen because if there is a one-world government there would be no wars and no MIC to sell arms. More likely is a consolidation of world powers down to just 2-3 who would control the fighting…come to think of it, that’s pretty much what we have now!
John Angelo
I think every Merikan should watch the 80’s version of “Red Dawn” as I believe that it shows what we would be facing if we were at war with Russia and our own government made no effort to protect the country. Also shows what happens when they start rounding up the citizens. I guess if it were present time, Mericans would be taken to a empty Walmart or Mall.
I doubt seriously if DC would lift a finger in our defense if Russian troops invaded our homeland.
@John A., we are in substantial agreement. It’s hard to get really solid history before about 200 BC (except for Romans and Peloponnese Greeks to about 500 BC, and Macedonia to about 400 BC) but there does appear to be a cycle. From what I’ve read it’s more on a 2000 year cycle than 2500, and seems to somewhat follow the changing of the Zodiac sign for the era. Whether this is brought about by actual supernatural forces or by the reaction of some humans to a certain mythology I don’t know.
@Rise Up, maybe yes, however, we have ALWAYS been at war with Eastasia… 🙂
A war with Russia over Ukraine? Won’t happen. Ever. Stupid premise followed by a more stupid question.
@ Maggie …. what’s up with the toad pics? What did I miss?
Well that settles that, the Spook says it will never happen. Thanks SSS, I feel a lot better now.
Next question Stuck.
SSS
I see you mistakenly took your Stupid Pills instead of the Viagra.
You have NO FUCKING CLUE what will be the trigger for WWIII. I know you were alive during WWI … so, did you think the assassination of a minor administrative leader would spark that war? Of course not … you were busy golfing.
Do you think America would take it VERY seriously — even to the point of war — if Russia overthrew the Mexican government and put in Commies bent on wrecking havoc on the USA? So, the USA!USA!USA! already has Russia surrounded with nukes, but that’s not enough, so now we stir shit in Ukraine. Never-mind, that leaders from BOTH countries have said that further escalation can push both countries into war. Nooooo, you’re so much fucking smarter than everyone.
You get a Big Fat FAIL in abstract thinking.
One last question. Has your doctor verified you’re going senile or, is it something else?
i listen with great interest all putin’s speeches, unlike potus. he seems rational, and i believe the russians generally are better off than they have ever been. if i were younger and had my choice of a destination, crimea for me, spend my remaining years studying the history of a pivotal place.
Amen, f&l.
Perhaps the ONLY reason we are not already at war with Russia is because Russia actually has a leader who is … you know … rational and coherent.
Since I’m forced to pay taxes here in the USSA it could be argued that I’m supporting the USSA. I’d be particularly happy if the USSA could be slapped good and hard (without loss of life) for our continual and unrelenting bullying of the world. There is no way WE would accept the myriad ways we interfere with everyone around the world were they done to us and it’s the height of arrogance to act the way we do.
@ SSS:
I think Maggie is posting a toad pic after every bb post, because………Well, because he’s a toad.
She got torqued at him for a recent display of douchebaggery on one of her comments.
Maggie hasn’t yet realized that, as much emotional effort as it takes, it best to ignore him. At all costs.
US foreign policy is fucked up and bullshit. Our enemies should be our allies and our allies should be our enemies, with some obvious exceptions.
Yep, bb is just a greasy assclown. Just skip anything he posts and never reply to him. TBP is much more enjoyable when you do that.
If I was like Stucky and spent 23.75 hours a day here posting, I’d offer to delete every comment ever posted by the shit brown cumstain masquerading as bb simply as a public service to make the world a better place but I have a job.
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Good question Stucky. The sooner we all band together as Americans and stop blaming the “other side” whether that’s liberals or conservatives, the better to push back and end this stupid “Wolfowitz doctrine” foreign policy that’s brought our country to its knees.
What we’ve done in the Ukraine and the sandbox countries is deplorable and I highly disagree. Were we to actually declare war with Russia over the events in the Ukraine, I would hope Congress would stop such an action in its tracks and impeach Oblunder. And if that didn’t work I would hope the military would act on its own, assume control, and call for new elections.
I had no idea bb was black.
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Well, it certainly appears the “people you voted into power” are very keen on “their” little adventure in Ukraine, so by extension you Americans must be keen on yet another war of choice.
“We didn’t vote for this!” – OK, so what are YOU doing to manage YOUR “Government”?? That’s right – NOTHING.
So, you are, in effect, in full agreement, and presumably quite happy, in creating yet more death and disruption, as long as it’s conveniently “somewhere else”, and once you are bored with the coverage on your Chinese-manufactured widescreen TV with full surround-sound system (thanks again to Chinese REAL Engineers), you can change channels and watch something more “fun”.
The MAJORITY of Americans are fully on-board with the “Russian Aggression” claptrap, and so the majority will FULLY support NATO or whatever “teaching them a lesson”. Unfortunately for you, the Country that will be “taught a (terminal) lesson” is your USA, where the survivors (if any) will see control over the North American landmass handed over to whichever Countries come out on top (certainly Russia and China, with possibly other justified interests).
As for your much-vaunted “Armed Resistance” along the lines of “a rifle behind each blade of grass”, the victors will use the same mass-extermination strategies as you have used in their Countries in the past. Their Worldview will be the promulgated Worldview, and since it is very likely that the US will have used nuclear munitions against their civilian population, they will be very firmly pressing the point that what remains of the US population constitutes “a Global pestilence that must be completely eradicated”. Extreme? Not when backed with footage of mass civilian deaths courtesy of NATO, and you KNOW that will happen.
There will be ZERO resistance. Your new owners will make that a very early priority.
Hey Phil, Blow us!
@ Sticky and Bea Lever
I’m staying 100% with my comment. Stupid premise, stupid question.
However, I’m filled with the spirit of kindness because I just whipped up a batch of my world famous gazpacho. People around the planet, including Spain, travel to Tucson just to get a sample of this mouth-watering culinary delight. I have to beat them off my doorstep with a baseball bat.
I’d tell you unwashed masses my secret ingredient, but you’re probably saying by now, “WTF is gazpacho?”
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@ Sticky and Bea Lever
I’d tell you unwashed masses my secret ingredient, but you’re probably saying by now, “WTF is gazpacho?”
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Hash oil. There, now everybody knows.
IS – does bb still post? I started skipping his stuff when I was unable to convince him to stop being an assclown, and now it is so automatic I do not even know he is around, unless someone else mentions it.
Stuck – gotta say, I am with SSS on this one. But thanks for stirring up some shit. Worth the time to read the posters.
“Stuck – gotta say, I am with SSS on this one.” ———- Llpoh
Et tu, Brute? What is wrong with you two?
Not relevant? A fuckin’ war with Russia is not a possibility these days?? Do you read the news? Or, are you two hung up on the Ukraine issue …. a really irrelevant aspect to the question.
And if there is a war … people, even Americans, will choose sides … as there is ALWAYS a 5th-column. It is even more appropriate to this day and age, as so many Americans HATE this government … and a few even the country itself.
So, pardon my ignorance, but it IS a relevant question. Stirring up shit was not part of my plan …. although I am delighted it happened.
Zara- A little hash oil might sane the old Spookmeister right up and he might pull his head right out of his ass.
Stuck – You think we am so stupid we cannot tell when you are pulling our puds? Your ENTIRE intent was to stir shit. Hell, it is practically your reason for existence.
Re a war with Russia – ANYTHING is possible. But over Ukraine? Phhhth. Over oil – now that I would believe possible.
Now that the Iranian missile threat to Europe is over, the Pentagon has decided not to deploy anti-ballistic missiles to Poland.
Just kidding.
Llpoh
Why do you persist in hurting my feelings? After all we’ve been through!! Just yesterday my mom asked, “Hows that Injun friend of yours? Is he OK?” The whole Stucky family loves you … and this is how you repay me?
OK, answer the question — “The USA declares war on Russia OVER OIL. Who will you support?”
Llpoh is spot on……….the whole thing with Russia is over oil and natural gas, and dats da truff. Good call Loopey.
You, Stuck, are playing on the USA team against Austria. Score is 3-3 in the final 2 minutes and your first goal could decide the game. Your dear old dad, Blatz brew in hand, is rooting for his favorite team. You manage a convincing flop and get the free kick. Do you aim for the goalie’s nuts or just inside the left corner?
Stuck, SSS is right. War with Russia, we get our asses handed to us. TPTB know it the risk reward is not there. USA only picks fights with 3rd world nations who don’t stand a chance.
Stucky says: Do you think America would take it VERY seriously — even to the point of war — if Russia overthrew the Mexican government and put in Commies bent on wrecking havoc on the USA?
Gazpacho breath could tell you that Mexico already has a communist government so your point is, what?
Stuck – I ain’t fighting over no fucking oil. Ever. Besides, in OZ, we gots COAL and URANIUM, baby! If’n the chinks don’t take it from us. Always a downside to everything.
“According to the Australian Bureau of Agricultural and Resource Economics and Sciences [17] the economically demonstrated reserves to production ratios for bituminous coal and lignite in Australia are 111 years and 539 years respectively”
BTW Stuck – your family is too kind to us redskins. We aren’t worthy.
The brown cumstain could be a veiled reference to me or LLPOH. What makes Maggie so damn important? LLPOH said newbies are fair game, I notice bb takes them on in an effort to hone their weak intellect and weed out the poor sports.
I like bb and I like Trump for the same reason, they are entertaining trolls, Maggie has yet to give me a chuckle.
President Truman, President Trump. It has a ring to it. Give ’em hell, Donald!