Why They Hate Us

A frequent theme nowadays is “Why do they hate us?” meaning why does so much of the world detest the United States. The reasons given are usually absurd: They hate our freedom or democracy. They hate us for our cultural superiority. They hate us because we are wonderful.

No. Actually the reason is simple if unpalatable. They hate us because we meddle, and have meddled. They hate us because we are the most murderous nation on the planet. They hate our insufferable smugness.

People remember slights. They may not remember them as they actually happened, but they remember them. The Civil War ended in 1865, the Federal occupation in 1877. Yet today many Southerners are still bitter, to the point that their emotional loyalty is to the South, not to Washington.

Silly? Yes, if you are from the North. Grievances matter more to those aggrieved than to the aggrievers.

In Guadalajara, near my home in Mexico, a towering monument in a traffic circle honors Los Niños Héroes, the Heroic Children. These are the little boys who, when the invading American armies attacked Chapultepec in 1847, went out to fight for their country. Avenues are named Niños Héroes all over Mexico. Few Americans even know that there was a war.

Wounds to national pride gall people, and endure. Exactly why, I don’t know, but it happens. Consider China. How many have heard of the Opium Wars of 1839 and 1856? Or understand that the United States and the European powers simply occupied such parts of China as they chose, forced opium sales on China, imposed extraterritoriality, and bloodily suppressed the Boxers? How many people have even heard of the Boxers?

Over a billion Chinese.

My point is not that China is morally superior to the United States. It isn’t. However, if you want to understand why so many countries loathe us, you have to understand how they see us. Whether you agree is irrelevant. Nor does it matter whether their grievances are factual. For example, many South Americans believe their countries to be poor because of exploitation by America. This isn’t true, which doesn’t matter at all.

A few years back I was in Laos and chatted with a young Lao woman. She mentioned in passing the death of her father. What happened to him, I asked? Oh, she said, he died fighting the Americans. A war that many Americans saw as a meritorious crusade against communism was, to the countries involved, an inexplicable attack that killed their fathers and brothers and children. They didn’t see why the internal affairs of their country were America’s business.

Agree with them or don’t, but that’s why they hate us.

Countries usually see their own virtues and the warts of others. Americans, perhaps because they do not much travel, carry this to an extreme and regard their country as superior to all others. The attitude is highly annoying. Consider the US from the point of view of others:

America is both a rogue state and a bully, constantly attacking countries hopelessly inferior in military strength — Cambodia, Vietnam, Laos, Panama, Cuba, Iraq, Somalia, Afghanistan, etc. Civil rights? The US has more people in prison than any other country. Many of our cities are festering slums. The world saw the victims of Katrina. Morality? The country is rife with drugs, crime, sex. Culture? In education, American students are annually shown to be inferior to those of Thailand, Hungary, Singapore, and so on. America is tasteless and sordid. Look at the movies….

Yes, yes, some of that isn’t fair, and an American might ask, for example, how an Arab country, practicing female circumcision and not allowing girls to study, can lecture anyone on morality. I agree. But how they see things determines their attitudes.

In Google Images, search on “Abu Ghraib.” You will see American Army women grinning as they torture and humiliate Arab men. They are having a wonderful time, and the whole world can see those pictures.  This was American policy — low-ranking girl soldiers do not undertake this kind of thing without approval from command.  The general in charge was a woman. Torture is still American policy.

Stalin did this sort of thing. So did Adolf. So did Pol Pot. And so does the United States. Other countries know it. (Google recently pulled its ads from Antiwar.com because the site posted an Abu Ghraib photo. Does Google support torture, or did the Feds threaten….? Nah. Impossible. Not our government.) When I think how other countries react, I cringe.

Below the Rio Bravo? The first rule of American hemispheric diplomacy south of Texas should be “Don’t get into Latin faces unless you have to.” The US has a long history, of which most Americans aren’t aware, of meddling to the south. At least three invasions of Mexico depending on whether Veracruz counts as an invastion or just a bombardment), at least one of Panama, the installation of Pinochet in Chile and of support for various Central American dictators, United Fruit, the Canal Zone, the Bay of Pigs, on and on and on. These things are remembered.

A couple of examples of abjectly stupid, obnoxious meddling: First, many decades back, Mexico had a comic-book character called Memin Pinguin, a caricature black kid with exaggerated lips and so on who had adventures with white friends. In 2005, Mexico issued postage stamps with Memin’s picture, as we might of Elvis. To Mexicans it was innocent nostalgia. Yet in America outrage erupted. Jesse Jackson attacked the Mexican government and George Bush denounced the stamps as racism. People here were furious: Mexico couldn’t even issue postage stamps without approval from Washington.

Second: In 2006 , some Cuban businessmen took a room in the Sheraton in Mexico City. Washington got wind of it and forced Sheraton, an American company, to eject them. Childish, pointless, it enraged Mexicans who see Cuba as yet another small country being bullied by the US, and regarded the ejection as meddling with national sovereignty. The effect of course was to fan sympathy for Cuba.

Further, we tend to see things through lenses of moralistic abstractions: Democracy is good, and freedom is good, and therefore if we bomb Iraq and kill many thousands of soldiers who are someone’s husbands, brothers, children, and fathers, the survivors will throw flowers and turn into Fifth Century Athens. It’s all right to destroy cities because we say we have good intentions.

People detest condescension. Yet we lecture Russia and China condescendingly on human rights, and speak openly of committing “regime change” in various countries as if we had a divine right to determine their form of government. It smells of armed mommyism, which no one can stand.

It is even worth reflecting that our “democracy” and “freedom” do not look as resplendent as we might think to the people of a more collective-minded and well-run country. Try Singapore. Neither democratic nor free in our sense, it is prosperous, free of crime, without a drug problem (a country that executes drug dealers has few of them), enjoys schools far better than ours; lacks graffiti, vandalism, and trash in the streets, and has a high degree of technological advancement. Its people quietly regard themselves as civilizationally superior to a degraded America in decline. (Humility is not a besetting sin of the Chinese.)

Why do we not behave more sensibly? Americans obviously are not stupid people. Dummies don’t build Mars rovers. Yet we seem to have a wanton, almost genetic non-grasp of how others think — which means that we can’t predict what they will do. Often Americans just don’t care what others think. This of course plays into the hands of Hugo Chavez and bin Laden.

That’s why they hate us. We meddle.

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Spartacus Rex
Spartacus Rex
September 3, 2015 6:33 am

“They” Hate STUPIDITY!

What’s your excuse, Einstein?

Cheers,

S. Rex

Anonymous
Anonymous
September 3, 2015 7:12 am

Most Americans I have met are decent people. Your weird christians are strange, but polite and harmless in small numbers. They get seriously fucking annoying in big groups. The only american I met that I actively disliked was a grotesquely obese, pig ignorant, know-it-all. I think it may have been one of your females. I don’t appreciate you sending her to my country. Take her back please.

Your government, empire, whatevever you want to call it, seems to be run by a bunch of dicks that take orders from multinational corporations. When people around the world talk shit about ‘America,’ that is the group they are referring to.

Overthecliff
Overthecliff
September 3, 2015 7:21 am

It is a jungle out there. Powerful entities lord it over weaker ones. Always have always will. It sucks to be weak .i don’t give a shit if they hate us.

It is better to be feared than loved.

All that being said , FRED is right about Americas negative qualities.

rich
rich
September 3, 2015 7:22 am

“Americans obviously are not stupid people.”

Then explain why Americans allow themselves to be ruled and governed by our present, and not so distant past, elected officials.

Explain why Americans are the second fattest people on earth.

Then walk into any local Walmart, take a good look around, and tell me why it is obvious that Americans are not stupid.

Otherwise, everything else you wrote was the truth.

klyde
klyde
September 3, 2015 7:52 am

I had my eyes opened on the appalaichan trail in the mid nineties. I ended up in sync with a canadian and a frechman. It was interesting back and forth, as I tried to distinguish for them the difference between america, americans, and american government. They explained to me why everyone hates the united states. It was essentially a 2 month long version of the above article. It truly shocked me how much the french hate us considering we ‘saved’ them in two world wars. The canadian chick made alot of sense. I still think the french can get fucked.

kokoda
kokoda
September 3, 2015 8:10 am

Article = +100

Stucky
Stucky
September 3, 2015 8:15 am

Why do they hate us? Just read the post by Spartacus Rex …. Arrogant, Smug, Superior (ASS). And might I also add, total moron.

Article is spot on in every sense.

Back in PA Mike
Back in PA Mike
September 3, 2015 8:45 am

If only the neocons had any comprehension ability, this article would mean something. See nitwit Rex’s comment above.

dc.sunsets
dc.sunsets
September 3, 2015 8:54 am

Everything is cyclical.

Success breeds its own failure. The failure of the USA as a monolithic entity is clearly in evidence for anyone who chooses to see.

The solace I find from this is that smart people survive (most of the time.) If you look at the modern remnants of prior empires (the Spanish, French, Dutch and British come to mind) there are people at the top of their societies today who are doing quite well.

That is what I hope for my descendents.

The rest of the masses can go pound sand. They will be the vast majority of those whose lineage dies out in coming years.

Helix
Helix
September 3, 2015 9:50 am

It all comes down to compassion. From the tone of most of the remarks above, it seems to be in short supply, even in those who agree with the article.

Gator
Gator
September 3, 2015 9:50 am

wow. this is the best post I have read in a long time. If ‘they’ ever hated us for our freedoms, they outta love us now.

The only people who hate us for our freedoms are democrats and republicans. Everyone else hates us for our democrats and republicans

Southern Sage
Southern Sage
September 3, 2015 9:57 am

Fred is largely right but not entirely. I have lived in Latin America for many years. Do some people hate the U.S.? Sure, but many of them are people who would hate us if we were saints. Speaking only of Latin America, I have met few (other than Mexicans of a certain class) who hate the U.S. because of various military adventures. Most Latin Americans are sophisticated enough to understand they “whys”. Cubans, other than the small group of Communists (10 percent of the population at most) do not hold the Bay of Pigs against us, except maybe that it failed for a lack of support. I discussed the U.S. intervention in the Dominican Republic with several ordinary Dominicans who were there. They were matter-of-fact in saying that of course the U.S. had to intervene to prevent another Communist takeover. You don’t see a whole lot of anti-Americanism in Panama these days – I was there last week. Ditto for Colombia. The people who hate America overseas tend to be the same types that hate America in the U.S.A. Leftist assholes. To be sure there is some degree of resentment of stupid American policies, as there should be. Where we ARE hated is the Middle East. You can thank our Zionist masters for that. As for the French, complaining about them is like complaining about the weather. They are what they are and don’t give a shit what anybody thinks of them. Want hate? Ask a West African what he thinks of the French. They get out of line and pretty soon the Foreign Legion shows up and kicks the crap out of them. Yes, we need to stop meddling. I agree 100 percent with Fred. But many of the foreigner haters are also full of baloney. I might add that there is far more anti-Americanism in Argentina – a country we never did a thing to offend in any way – than in places where the Marines took up permanent residence,

Roy
Roy
September 3, 2015 10:04 am

Southern Sage – Differentiate between hating the US and the US Government.

Anonymous
Anonymous
September 3, 2015 10:20 am

Some people may hate us, but they should take into consideration that no nation in the history of the world has brought as much prosperity to the nations of the Earth or done more in the way of charitable giving and aid both as individual Americans and as a country.

Remove America from history and the world looks pretty much like it did during the 1600’s and that is something most of the America haters would find dreadful.

BUCKHED
BUCKHED
September 3, 2015 10:49 am

Americans obviously are not stupid people.”

Yes they are.

Just ask

” Is the gooberment out of control,growing larger every year ” ? They’ll answer yes. Then ask them ” Isn’t the Constitution a restraint on gooberment ” ? And again they’ll answer yes . Then ask them how did the gooberment get were it is if the Constitution is a restraint on gooberment….blank stares is all you’ll get .

Dutchman
Dutchman
September 3, 2015 10:50 am

I don’t give a fuck if they hate us.

We bailed their ass out of WWII, and helped rebuild their countries.

What did the USSR do for East Germany, and Poland, and Czech’s ? How many Chinese died under Mao, or the Khmer Rouge? How about Castro?

Look at China, India, Africa – how well have those governments improved the living conditions of their citizens.

They hate us because we’re successful. We got a lot of things right – everyone has indoor plumbing, highways, sanitation, food, cleanliness, medical care, education, I could go on and on.

Our problem is corruption. Two examples come to mind: Medical care has turned into a racket, and education a brain wash.

Yes our government is completely out of control / fucked up, bought and paid for by every special interest out there. That’s the real problem.

BUCKHED
BUCKHED
September 3, 2015 10:53 am

Helix…I don’t have much compassion for 3rd world types who invade my country in order to join the FSA .

Montefrío
Montefrío
September 3, 2015 11:00 am

@SS I too have lived for many years in Latin America but with an EU passport; I am a dual national with respect to the US. As a result, things are said to me that might not be said to someone known to be a “yanqui”. The like-dislike spectrum is fairly broad in my experience, but other than the lefties, largely favorable. There is resentment, misunderstanding with respect to immigration issues, the sensitivity one would expect from a citizen of a backward nation, but barring the fanatics, if pressed with logic, most will readily agree they’d rather live like folks in the USA than those in China or elsewhere.

The Argentines are a special case. One thinks of the old joke about how to make a fortune: buy an Argentine for what he believes he’s worth and sell him for what he’s actually worth. The old oligarchy favored France as a model, believing themselves to be Belle Epoque epicurians with a deep understanding of Jacques Lacan, while the lefties believed themselves to have a deep understanding of Jacques Lacan and Leon Trotsky: both groups are deeply resentful that others see them as pretentious and corrupt incompetents. Sadly, a certain type of Argentine seems to resent everyone including his fellows, so Americans are just one more target.

Fred’s right about one thing for sure, though: no one likes a meddler and Americans would be wise to make some major changes politically. After all, it isn’t John/Jane Q American-citizen who directs the gov or its foreign policy, but JQA-c might want to get a bit more involved in managing those who do.

Dutchman
Dutchman
September 3, 2015 11:10 am

@Rich and Others Who Have Implied: “Then explain why Americans allow themselves to be ruled and governed by our present, and not so distant past, elected officials.”

You think our officials are any worse than Greece? Italy? France?

Why do the North Koreans allow themselves to be ruled by maniacs?

Momentum, political and social momentum is the reason countries (mobs) continue on their path -what ever path that has evolved.

Bit by bit, we have crept away from the Constitution. We can’t go back because the momentum is to go in the direction of more laws. The momentum is not towards simplicity, you can see this in the 2,400 page Affordable Care Act. Even the name ‘Affordable’ is a lie.

This is what we talk about so much on this forum – waiting for the crash. The crash is really destroying the direction of the current momentum.

Sightseer
Sightseer
September 3, 2015 11:35 am

They hate us because they have to either develop an income stream in the United States to get access to USD, or buy a shitload of treasuries or they can’t purchase the oil and other goods they need to run their countries.

This scheme allows us to export our inflation and finances our high debt. Our underclass lives in “fake” poverty with their EBT cards, flat screen tv’s and cable, while the third world lives in “real” dirt-farming poverty, but yet they still need to buy our currency regardless.

This is why they hate us. and RIGHTLY SO!

We are the slumlord of the world forcing our debt upon everyone just so they can have a minimum quality of life. We really deserve what’s coming.

fear & loathing
fear & loathing
September 3, 2015 11:46 am

all above posts informative and insightful. my dislikes are toward a government who abandons allies after our interloping. nation building and domino theory is bad policy. the we know best attitude leaves chaos whether here or elsewhere. unfortunately deserved or not the folks i know do not support most of our governmental actions, in my case it is hard to remember a policy i supported.

rich
rich
September 3, 2015 11:52 am

“This is what we talk about so much on this forum – waiting for the crash.”

Dutchman, for many Americans there is no waiting, because, for them, the crash has already happened.

“You think our officials are any worse than Greece? Italy? France?”

I don’t see the officials in Greece, Italy, and France sending tens of thousands of their young to be killed, maimed and/or psychologically destroyed in false flag wars, so that the taxpayer subsidized kleptocrats, who own the military-industrial-complex, can amass lifetimes of wealth. So yes, I do think our officials are worse.

“The momentum is not towards simplicity,”

The momentum is towards neo-feudalism, and what can be more simple than that?

AnarchoPagan
AnarchoPagan
September 3, 2015 12:15 pm

I agree with Fred except for the implicit approval of Singapore. To me freedom is THE fundamental political value, priceless even if it leads to negative social consequences like drug abuse.

Dutchman, I don’t think our leaders are worse than those of Greece, Cuba, North Korea, it’s just that they wield an immensely bigger hammer.

Sightseer, I frankly doubt the average citizen of other countries has that deep an understanding of the petrodollar system, hatred usually springs from more visceral causes.

Frankly, I’m astonished that countries on the receiving end of our meddling, like Vietnam, don’t hate us more; I guess those tourist and trade dollars still speak.

Dutchman
Dutchman
September 3, 2015 12:32 pm

@Rich: “I don’t see the officials in Greece, Italy, and France sending tens of thousands of their young to be killed, maimed and/or psychologically destroyed”

Those countries don’t have a pot to piss in. I’m sure they would be involved in wars, but they don’t have the resources / balls.

So as long as countries only kill their citizens – by the millions: such as China, Cambodia, USSR that’s OK. No reason to hate them – the killing has been done in the past – so now everything is fine.

razzle
razzle
September 3, 2015 12:45 pm

@Rich
— “Then explain why Americans allow themselves to be ruled and governed by our present, and not so distant past, elected officials.”

Explain why the entire rest of the planet lets the US Government fuck with them? Same answer.

nkit
nkit
September 3, 2015 12:47 pm

I’m with TLJ….

robert h siddell jr
robert h siddell jr
September 3, 2015 1:05 pm

You don’t have to go far to find people who have become so alienated by NYC/WDC’s evils that they are in revolt. Libs constantly cram their insanity down people’s throats from every portal of their power; good people are so sick of it they could vomit the lies and filth (Is28:8). The Merciful Christian God exists (ref Youtube #1 and #2 “Best Videos of Encounters with Jesus, Holy Spirit and Healing, Heaven & End Times”) but He doesn’t forgive without repentance and there is no repentance without a knowledge of Truth (ref Is, Zec etc). Libs prefer Satan’s wide avenues to Hell and deny God, His Kingdom, Power and Will; His Son, prophets, public Christian prayers, symbols, holidays and followers. God’s 2,000 yr old warnings to sinners (Judgements) will befall America soon (ref Youtube “Tsunami Prophecy” etc); sinners must Repent (to turn 180 degrees) and become a Child of God or face His certain sudden awful Judgement.

rich
rich
September 3, 2015 1:37 pm

“Those countries don’t have a pot to piss in. I’m sure they would be involved in wars, but they don’t have the resources / balls.”

What makes you sure the would be involved in wars?

“So as long as countries only kill their citizens – by the millions: such as China, Cambodia, USSR that’s OK.”

Who said that’s OK? That’s no more OK than a country that has a population that is less than 6% of the world’s population, but has a incarceration rate that equals 25% of the world’s incarcerated.

“No reason to hate them – the killing has been done in the past – so now everything is fine.”

What does that have to do with Fred’s argument? As far as killing in the past, the US slaughtered its native population. US soldiers slaughtered each other in the Civil War, and US foreign invasions, since WW2, have let to the slaughter of millions of people all over the world.

razzle:

“Explain why the entire rest of the planet lets the US Government fuck with them?”

Because they are scared shitless, as they should be, of the US Military.

MarsPleaseAttack
MarsPleaseAttack
September 3, 2015 1:50 pm

I see a lot about ignorance and stupidity here. I SEE a lot of ignorance and stupidity HERE.

To all of you, I say: there is no “we”; there is only you, and what you do.

And to each individual out there, I say: if you believe there is a “we”, and a god, and a country that has been anything but a cancer since its creation, you can talk about how stupid OTHER people are all you want, that doesn’t make you any less ignorant.

Have a nice day.

Lysander
Lysander
September 3, 2015 2:11 pm

MarsPleaseAttack…..What the hell are you smoking? What you said is the type of banal, juvenile cliche that a 16 year old says after he smokes pot for the first time.

Yow wish a nice day? How about this? Go Fuck Yourself.

Dutchman
Dutchman
September 3, 2015 2:16 pm

@Rich: Those POS European countries couldn’t defend themselves from Hitler. France, Poland, Spain, Italy, etc all folded like a house of cards.

Maybe we should have just let Germany have it all. Maybe then they wouldn’t hate US?

Rich continues: “US soldiers slaughtered each other in the Civil War,”

What country hasn’t had a civil war? French revolution, English revolution, Spain, it goes on and on.

Rich continue: “US foreign invasions, since WW2, have let to the slaughter of millions of people all over the world.”

So we just should have let the Europeans work it out with Hitler? And as you admitted before many communist countries have slaughter millions – just for disagreeing.

Anonymous
Anonymous
September 3, 2015 2:30 pm

MarsPleaseAttack,

You might want to review your post in light your own statements regarding others.

razzle
razzle
September 3, 2015 2:48 pm

@Rich
— “Because they are scared shitless, as they should be, of the US Military.”

Correct. Now follow that reasoning full circle.

rich
rich
September 3, 2015 4:16 pm

“So we just should have let the Europeans work it out with Hitler? And as you admitted before many communist countries have slaughter millions – just for disagreeing.”

Dutchman, if you reread what I wrote, I said “since WW2”, not before or during. To the best of my knowledge, Hitler didn’t survive WW2, unless, of course, you have other information as to his post WW2 whereabouts.. Your use of non-sequiturs makes it difficult to discuss Fred’s article. Fred’s article is entitled, “Why They Hate US”. Perhaps you should submit an article addressing why you hate Russia, China, Greece, Cambodia, Spain, etc, and then we can discuss that.

Westcoaster
Westcoaster
September 3, 2015 4:17 pm

My eyes were opened wide a couple of years back when I got into a political conversation with a older gentleman of about 73, avid Fox news watcher, discussing our invasion of Iraq. He wanted to argue the point regarding Hussein’s involvement in 9/11; couldn’t grasp the concept that Hussein had zero to do with 9/11, otherwise “why would we bomb them”? The last straw is when he said, “I just loved that shock and awe”. When I reminded him that “shock and awe” was the process of our army blasting 1,000’s of innocent Iraqi’s to bits, he said “I thought you were a smart guy, but you’re just plain stupid”.
I think that’s the problem; most Americans are stupidly ignorant and proud of it. They can’t comprehend that our government would invade a country that didn’t invade us.

Guy
Guy
September 3, 2015 4:36 pm

I think this sums it up rather nicely:

Dutchman
Dutchman
September 3, 2015 5:00 pm

@Rich: ” Perhaps you should submit an article addressing why you hate Russia, China, Greece, Cambodia, Spain, etc, and then we can discuss that.”

My point is that all countries have done things that have hurt a lot of people. There’s just as much reason to hate them as it is to hate the US. So then everyone can hate everyone else for some things that their country has done.

I think the premise of the article is weak It’s really what Fred thinks about why people hate the US. It’s a supposition. There could be many people who have a positive view of the US. Or in reality those people are concerned about their own lives, and really don’t give a shit about the US, one way or another.

Introspection is fine, but it really gets us nowhere since the TPTB are firmly in control.

Emilio Camino
Emilio Camino
September 3, 2015 5:46 pm

The article is great; truthful, honest. It is refreshing as a lucid raises the aggressive American decadence in which The Great Satan is doing.

The United States is full of good, hardworking people; otherwise the country would collapse, but are full of ignorance and manipulation of the Jewish-Zionist, owner of the printer, banking, of jewwood, the press and others that they are being nice and pretty fucking long since government.

That’s the problem. America rampant Zionism is watching their faces and assholes who has become aggressive stupid and cowardly.

Overthecliff
Overthecliff
September 3, 2015 5:48 pm

It’s envy. If this place sucks so bad , why do so many of the sob’s want to come here?

yahsure
yahsure
September 3, 2015 6:11 pm

I was told a lot of hate for the U.S. was because our country is good at getting(stealing?) natural resources from other countries.
At the same time we have people lined up and begging to come here.
There is a big difference between what we as citizens think and approve of.And what our corrupt government is doing beyond our control
I do find that personal freedom wise we are still ahead of other countries.
Times have been tough since 07 for my family. From what i have read our government and our banking institutions haven’t changed how they do business.Our ever increasing debt will be our undoing. There is a lot of info on TBP To support that our system will eventually will go bust.

OutLookingIn
OutLookingIn
September 3, 2015 6:28 pm

Never used to be this way.

America was looked upon as a bastion of freedom, with citizens that would fight for that right. Would freely partner and support anyone who joined them in this fight
Without America’s massive manufacturing know how and can do attitude at the outset of World War II the road to victory over the forces of darkness would have been almost impossible.

After the war, America entered into her ultimate golden age until the JFK assassination. It abruptly ended then. The baby boomers were all under 16 years of age and had their idealistic bubble burst. Their young and much beloved President had been destroyed by an older, corrupt generation.

Economic pressure forced Mom into the workforce and these kids then became “latch key children”. Without adult supervision for much of their daylight free time. The resultant generation gap friction, generated the free swinging sixties, as they rebelled against anything and everything.

The baby boom generations children then set off the gimme, gimme, gimme mindset of the Gen X’ers and their children are now adrift in a sea of of mindless, directionless, could not give a damn attitude of “just fuck it all”!

How to correct it all? It’s a VERY long road back and you can’t go home again.

Archie
Archie
September 3, 2015 7:46 pm

Let America, the empire, die already. This is my sincere wish.

fear & loathing
fear & loathing
September 3, 2015 7:46 pm

outlooking, pretty much spot on about my generation, regrettably we are not done yet. JFK for all his faults was charting a course, never know how he and Fed would have ended.

Zebra
Zebra
September 3, 2015 7:55 pm

I don’t think the world hates Americans more than Americans are capable of hating each other. The world hates modern America.

Monger
Monger
September 3, 2015 8:38 pm

We should withdraw our military world wide, the world will go back to what it does, namely cut throats.. No reason we should be cutting them also, unless its on our home soil.

Zarathustra
Zarathustra
September 3, 2015 9:51 pm

Hypocracy. Merica claims to promote human rights, yet supports dictators and rogue regimes when it suits it’s interest, it also covers for Israel’s war crimes. This has been true since the beginning, but has become much worse with the ascendency of the evil neocons.

Col. Bunny
Col. Bunny
September 3, 2015 10:46 pm

The CIA did not instigate the coup. See here, here, and .

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
September 3, 2015 10:46 pm

Having lived overseas for eight years and traveled quite a bit I have to agree with Fred for the most part. Americans…….the people……..are good people. Evidence of this abounds anytime there is an earthquake or some other big disaster. Regardless of where it happens, American people are always willing to pitch in with money, material goods, food, medicine, equipment, rescue animals and personnel and a wealth of technology to help the afflicted.

Unfortunately our govt and our owners are not like this at all, unless……..unless they can somehow come out looking good but even then they don’t really give a shit. This typically shows when a disaster occurs in Iran, Russia or anyplace else our govt deems unworthy.

Being a good American and living among similarly good people in foreign cities and towns, it is my experience that most of the world understands the difference. I lived in the UK for 4 years and cannot count how many times old people, like my grandparents age, thanked me, hugged me or bought me a beer or something simply to express gratitude for what “The Yanks” did for them during WWII. It was embarrassing really. I had nothing to do with it…….wasn’t even a tinkle in my daddy’s eye but there were all of these people thanking me. Nearly everywhere I lived or traveled in Europe I was welcomed and accepted. The further away you got from our bases of the big cities the greater the welcome was. Everybody wanted to know about America and if what they had heard (could have been anything) about it was true.

At the same time though, many people had grievances with the shit our govt was always doing. The vast majority of Spaniards loved the Americans that lived around Torrejon AB but that didn’t stop them from voting to close the base there. The British people quietly raged at being the US Govts. bitch.

I always felt that foreigners were much better at seeing these differences than Americans and I’m damned grateful for the time I spent overseas.

If you ever to travel outside of the US, use the internet to get to know some locals where you’ll be staying ahead of time. Express some interest in their history, culture and traditions and you’ll never find a better tour guide or friend.

I often ponder how different this world might be if we could collectively neutralize the minority of those who own and control us.

France was the exception. The French hate everybody including each other. The French are all better than everyone else in France and better than everyone else in the world. Even if you agree and accept that, they still hate you. Fuck them! Spend your vacation dollars in Spain!

Col. Bunny
Col. Bunny
September 3, 2015 10:47 pm

Corrected:

here, here, and here.

robert h siddell jr
robert h siddell jr
September 3, 2015 10:56 pm

Outlookingin, ah the way back. Isaiah saw all the tables full of vomit and filthiness and pondered how to restore things. In Is 28:10, he wrote “by precept upon precept, line upon line, here a little there a little”. That concept is good in theory but near impossible in practice when almost everybody else is a Useful Idiot. God reveals to Isaiah that He has a Plan and will send a child, a son, a Wonderful Councillor, The Mighty God, The Everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace, a root of Jesse, an ensign the Gentiles seek, a Mighty One of Jacob, the Holy One of Israel, an Intercessor, a leader and commander, a Redeemer, a Savior. Is53 alone should convince every person that man of God was Jesus but even God’s Son Himself who “respects” our free will did not convince everyone to repent and follow Him. In Matt 13:30, Jesus says to let the tares and wheat grow together until the harvest. We are to try to help all individuals get saved but we probably can only succeed with a segment and pray for the rest. I offer people $10 if they will watch Youtube #1 and #2 “Best Videos of Encounter with Jesus, Holy Spirit and Healing, Heaven & End Times”. If that fails to get them started, then pray for them that God intervenes. Vaya con Dios.