In Australia, we are seeing signs of political unrest. Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott has been a complete disaster. It is really a wonder how these people are elected and what goes through their minds. Abbott appears stunned by the swift pace of the challenge to his leadership. His collapse in the polls warned that he was off the mark, becoming an embarrassment for Australia as a nation on the world stage.
Essentially, for the past seven months following a no-confidence vote, Tony Abbott was overthrown this week in a leadership challenge from his popular former communications minister, Malcolm Turnbull, who won the Liberal Party vote 54-44 in Canberra just hours after declaring his leadership bid.
This is the peak in government. During the fall of the Roman Empire, between 244 AD and 268 AD, there were 26 Roman Emperors within a period of 24 years. As the economy begins to turn down, we should expect to see this type of response within politics. This is the type of trend we are entering post-2015.75. This is what we should expect to see as people become disillusioned by government and confidence collapses.
It would be nice to hear from our Australian contingent about what all this means for Australia.
Hopefully this will catch the attention of anyone left in our government that still has a pair. Hats off to the Aussies.
According to wiki … in 2005, the combined net worth of Malcolm and Lucy Turnbull was estimated at A$133 million …. and 5 years later it’s A$186 million.
I guess the USA!USA!USA! isn’t the only country where ya gotta be rich to be a servant of the people, and where ya get richer as a result.
Same shit, different day.
There are close to 7 billion of US.
There are slightly over 6 thousand of THEM. (Elite Owner Criminals)
No contest, they are grossly outnumbered and they know it, that is why they are building up such a draconian defense grid worldwide. They know we have had just about enough. Throw the bums out !!
Let me add that is exactly what the space shuttle and space station BS is all about so they (Elite Owner Criminals) can go off planet to save their sorry asses. We pay for all of this…..WHY?
Sitting in NZ and hearing about the now ex-PM from OZ, my casual take is that he said a few things appealing to conservative folks but they he was really a complete part of the system, cuckservative.
Bea Leaver says:
“Let me add that is exactly what the space shuttle and space station BS is all about so they (Elite Owner Criminals) can go off planet to save their sorry asses.”
I had to look back up and make sure I wasn’t reading a comment by bb by mistake. There are about a million holes I can poke in that retarded comment so I’ll assume it was simply made in jest.
LOL!
What was the problem?The last thing i heard was something about immigrants needing to become Australian and not Aussies needing to adjust for them. It sounded like what we need to hear here.
I have heard there was a lot of trade and WTF happened?
I/S- Funny, I get home today and pull up the Drudge report and see a article that says, ” Paper: Billionaire Rockets, Earth Escape?” No, I am not kidding and there are lots of people smelling the same rats. They even made a movie, which I never saw (and can’t remember the title), recently that was about elites going off planet and leaving us in a real shithole here on Earth.
Poke away, tell us why Elan Musk and Jeff Bezos and the rest of the billionaire boys club are buying themselves rockets. Do you think it is so we sheep can go to outer space? The sheep are getting broker by the minute, how they gonna buy a ticket? The billionaires say they are spending the money for commercial space travel. What do you think I/S , could you afford the million dollar ticket into space? I know I can’t.
The stupid continues to burn.
Interview with elite in this ZH article:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-31/what-do-they-know-why-are-so-many-of-the-super-wealthy-preparing-bugout-locations
Admin – this means little for the people of Australia. If anything it is a positive move. Here are pertinent bits in no particular order.
Australia is parliamentary. That means that the people elect representatives that then elect the Prime Minister. If the reps wish, they can change the Prime Minister at any time, which just happened.
The reason, in my opinion, that so many Prime Ministers are being tossed is different than that which is being portrayed in the media/elsewhere. Many are saying that the Prime Ministers are catching flack in the media, on the net, etc., and that the politicians (reps) react to the issues and get scared they will not be re-elected and respond by replacing the Prime Minister.
I believe that is incorrect. The problem is that Australia has 2 houses of Parliament, similar to Congress and Senate in the US.
The government is formed by the Lower House – ie the Congress, but to pass laws and budgets you have to get the law/budget through both houses.
For some time, the government of the day has not had majority representation in the Senate. As a result, the government, to pass any legislation, has to pander to minority groups and independents that hold the balance of power in the Senate. These minority groups tend to come from nutjob political parties or independents.
As a result of governments not being able to control the Senate, they are unable to pursue whatever agenda they support. The current government, from the right, is being blocked at every turn by the left and nutjob far left, etc. They cannot pass legislation cutting any costs, and cannot therefore bring the budget under control.
As a result, nothing of substance is happening. The budget deficit grows unchecked, as the Senate is split.
And thus the Prime minister tends to look powerless, as he cannot get through his agenda.
And because the opinion polls then show dissatisfaction with the PM, the party panics, tosses him out, and puts another in place. And round and round she goes.
The problem is the split Senate. and to further complicate things, there is no “executive order” system, so the PM is quite powerless to get his agenda through a split Senate.
The new PM is much more centrist than the last, and so may have more success getting his agenda through the Senate. The problem is that there are many in his own party that hate his guts, as they believe he is too centrist, and should be more far- right. As a result, he may well have problems more from inside his party than from outside of it.
It is very much akin to the situation in the US when the Senate/Congress are split, or when there are insufficient votes to over-ride a recalcitrant president’s veto.
The political system is stable in Australia. But the problem is that the idiot sheeple continue to hand balance of power to a handful of nutjob fringe lunatics (generally it is the Green Party, which are nuttier than hoot-owls.).
This is a common theme world-wide. Governments cannot get enough votes in government to actually govern anymore.
And there you have it.
Stucky – Turnbull (new PM) is entirely self-made. He came from a very humble background, became a Rhodes Scholar, a senior lawyer, argued some very significant and important cases, entered private business, and made himself rich through business and the sale of said business.
After the sale of business, he entered politics. I suppose he is a very ambitious man. But he did not do it for the money, as he was seriously wealthy from the fruit of his labor before he ever went into politics.
His wife is a very successful attorney, etc., and has a substantial income as well. She is from a more affluent background.
They should be cheered for their success, not belittled for it.
The increase in their wealth would be very much linked to the growth in the stock market, which has been good over five years. I believe I remember he liquidated his general business holdings, and put the money into a blind investment scheme managed by others when he went into politics, so as to eliminate any concerns of conflict of interest.
Your comment was ignorant and ill-informed.
llpoh
Whatever. Not like a give a fuck about what happens in Australia. I suggest you learn how to speak Chinese.
And you Spanish. Life is a crapshoot for sure.
Bea, come on man, your smarter than that. SpaceX, Virgin Galactic and everyone else getting into the space biz are doing so for the riches they’ll likely find in govt contracting. It’s all about the money.
Plenty of sheople will go into space long before the majority of the so called “elites”. Hell Richard Branson has been in the game longer than anyone and he hasn’t been to space yet. Not counting short, touristy visits, millions of sheople will make it to space before the elites.
Every new frontier is first explored, conquered and settled by sheople before the elites move in and steal or legislate it away from them. Space will be no different. First, the heavy lifting is done and elites are not heavy lifters. They’re more like grifters. They don’t chase possibilities, they chase sure things and then steal them. The ONLY things that exist in space that we are currently aware of are possibilities.
Thousands of technological advances need to be made and technologies themselves will have to be invented before our owners ever consider leaving this rock. It’s more likely that your descendants will work as slaves in space based mining operations that the elites will leave us behind.
To claim that the Space Shuttles (now defunct) and space stations (more are now defunct than operational) are about saving the elites and leaving us behind is total horseshit. Fuck, if that was the plan, I put up everything I own today for the pleasure of escorting their sorry asses off this rock tomorrow.
I/S – Over the years ZH and others have posted article after article about the “break away civilization” that are the elites. You say the sheeple will make it into space long before the elite ever do, as what tourists? The sheeple can’t afford a ticket to NJ. It became very apparent the elite want to go off planet, many have written about this. I looked up the movie about this subject, it’s called “Elysium” (it’s just Hollywood but the concept is there).
There are for sure elite bugout areas deep inside the mountains near New Delhi and other locations around the world. I am surprised that you never came across the many articles written about elites breaking away as they know they will get the blame when the SHTF as they should.
Bea, the elites can dream in one hand and shit in the other but they ain’t gettin’ off this rock anytime soon. I’ve read plenty of articles and thought the same of them.
Space is extremely hostile and tiny mistakes add up very quickly. Radiation of all kinds fills space. Planetary space is filled with projectiles capable of disabling any space craft. The distances between habitable places will take hundreds of generations to navigate. Everything they need like water and oxygen/nitrogen will have to be taken with them. They’ll have to drink the recycled water from their shit and piss. They will have to produce every scrap of food they need…….RELIABLY……..for hundreds of generations. Good fucking luck!
Bea said:
“You say the sheeple will make it into space long before the elite ever do, as what tourists?”
I can’t answer it any better than I already did:
“Not counting short, touristy visits, millions of sheople will make it to space before the elites.
Every new frontier is first explored, conquered and settled by sheople before the elites move in and steal or legislate it away from them. Space will be no different. First, the heavy lifting is done and elites are not heavy lifters. They’re more like grifters. They don’t chase possibilities, they chase sure things and then steal them. The ONLY things that exist in space that we are currently aware of are possibilities.
It’s more likely that your descendants will work as slaves in space based mining operations that the elites will leave us behind.”
Whether they like it or not, the elites NEED the sheople simply to keep their sorry asses alive. Without us, they perish. Without us, their precious “profit” withers and dies as well. There is a much greater chance the sheople will wise up to the elites motives than the elites leaving us behind. UNfortunately the majority of sheople NEED the elites so they’re no going anywhere.
I/S
Unless you know more about how to get past the three Van Allen radiation belts, non of us are leaving the planet any time soon. They are only looking at maintaining in orbit in the outer atmosphere not going to another planet from what I’ve read and the technology for that is old hat now as humans have maintained living in a space station with no problem for considerable lengths of time.
They have made it very clear that they only need 500,000,000 to 1billion sheeple to maintain going forward. That means 6 billion of us need to worry about our future.
I’m all for human extinction myself. We’ve proven ourselves to be incapable of living in harmony with anything. I root for the EL asteroid all the time.
I don’t see the elites living in orbit either. Living in space is arduous and uncomfortable. They would be sitting ducks and utterly dependent on those left behind for everything.
“the technology for that is old hat now as humans have maintained living in a space station with no problem for considerable lengths of time.”
I strongly suspect your definition of “no problem” differs from mine significantly. Problems abound and it takes tens of thousands back here on Earf to monitor, prevent and solve those problems. Only 543 humans have made it to space. More problems than solutions exist for living in space. Like I said, want in one hand, shit in the other.
Facing the guillotines would be far scarier to the owners than space station living. I can absolutely assure you that the REAL technology available to them is far advanced than you can imagine. Any technology you have knowledge of is almost ALWAYS 70 to 100 years behind what truly exists I/S. I hope Anarcho Pagan chimes in he is well versed in the subject. Sheep are not privy to real knowledge about technology.
In the past these crooks have stolen the sheep’s money on a regional level or by individual country, this time is different as they are stealing all the money from the sheep globally. You better have a really good get away plan to be that ballzy.
I think I would say to them “don’t let the door hit you in your ass on the way out”.
Bea, I’m afraid I’m not well versed in the subject. I have read books on how to build orbital colonies, but just speculation as far as I know. It would take a massive program to lift millions of tons into orbit that I just haven’t seen any evidence of. I’m sure the elites plan to go into space eventually, and they do think long term, but in the near future I think they’re more likely to try to wait out any unpleasantness in underground shelters, along with the thousands of servants/guards they’re going to need to maintain/restore order.
I’ll amend that, they could have technology I have no idea about, like antigravity, so I just don’t know, but I still think it would be hard to hide an existing program to build space colonies.
The elites are looking at hundreds of years before they leave the planet. Don’t forget, it’s the productive sheep that invent the technology. They need us far more than we need them.
But fuck ’em. If they want to go off Earth, I stand at the ready to escort the motherfuckers to their point of embarkation. Good riddance!
Lofty thinking. We were supposed to be driving flying cars and working less while living an advanced life style. Now only the working less is only for the many unemployed.
Communities built in remote areas for the wealthy sounds more doable and realistic.
yashure, no shit huh. Once they get tucked in to their little bunkers I say we plow as much toxic waste as we can find over their entrances and exists and consider it a grave from then on.
All these preppers building underground bunkers crack me up. One well placed vehicle or large rock and their fortress becomes their tomb. The smarter ones better be including some hydraulic jacks and cribbing in their bunkers.
I/S, I’m thinking of an old SF story called I think “The Marching Morons”, C.M. Kornbluth, where the cognitive elite built rockets to get the morons off planet, but neglected to provide any life support. Think it could work on the elites?
Good point, where ARE the flying cars? We were robbed, this sucks more than any thing has ever sucked before. The Jetsons were a lie.
Tesla invented the cell phone and wireless technology in 1898, it took a hundred years for the sheep to get that technology in their hands. No telling what they have up their sleeve now and I’m almost afraid to find out.
If the elites go underground or off planet it would be for a relatively short time which you guys seem to think would be generations and require colonies. I get the sense that it would be for as long as it would take for most of us to die at each others hand or a pandemic the elites drop on us before they go where they end up. Who knows , we will have to wait and see.
I/S, AP and Yashure
No matter what the truth is, it has been fun to debate the possibilities. If in the future you find a tidbit out on the net we can pick the topic back up sometime. Postem if you gotem.
Flying cars? Fuck that. Most mouth breathing morons can barely drive in two dimensions. You really want them operating in three? It wouldn’t even be safe to be on the ground if we had flying cars.
If you want to get a hint of future technology read the DARPA websites. There are others as well but I forget their names. Basically the govt solicits the public and private industry to build working concepts for things they want. Everything from invisibility cloaks to spiderman suits to robotic exoskeleton suits plus a million other things are being sought.
The elites neither invent or produce anything of value to most of humanity but they are rich enough to buy or co-opt just about anyone and anything they want. Programs like DARPA and others plus braniacs like Tesla and even that muslim kid that got busted for his digital clock are where the elites get futuristic technology. Trouble is, for many people, it’s their lifes work to invent and refine this futuristic tech so they end up working in black programs to work in their chosen fields. The Skunkworks is one such place. Lots of places like that exist.
Another fantastic source of info is Aviation Weekly or NASA Tech Briefs.
EndenturedServant, Most folks building a bunker would include a secret way to get out if the entrance was blocked. I considered that if i were to live where there were tornados and the house might end up on the shelter. There needs to be a way to get out,And the tools to force your way out if you are trapped.
I/S, about burying the elites in their bunkers, I would fully support that, but I assume you’re familiar with the underground CITY sized retreats that are being built, with multiple exits, fully stocked with the latest DOD toys, while meanwhile outside you might be contending with radiation, virulent plagues, famine-struck hordes, who knows what else… Good idea, but maybe a little difficult to implement.