Clovers… On the Road (and Otherwise)

Guest Post by Eric Peters

I’m often asked – what’s a Clover?clover lead pic

Technically, it’s a specific person – an incredibly persistent troll on these pages who identified himself (herself?) using that handle. After awhile, it stuck – became a general term, describing a mentality (reflexive authoritarian and collectivist) rather than one particular individual.

We all know Clovers.

They constitute the bulk of our fellow Americans. Among other things, they are terrible drivers.

Not so much because they are untalented behind the wheel.

It is because they are controlling and deliberately inconsiderate behind the wheel.

Dealing with Clovers on the road is like dealing with a 300 pound oaf that sort of wanders around your house, randomly stopping and standing in the hallway (or suddenly walking out of rooms, unexpectedly). A Clover expects you to avoid him … and then gets mad when you attempt to maneuver around him.

The classic example of this is the Clover who pulls out in front of you suddenly but then accelerates slowly. He was in a big hurry to get in front of you – but in no hurry to proceed, once he does. He’ll take his time getting up to speed – and will often not even reach the speed limit (which is usually at least 5-10 MPH below the speed at which traffic normally flows).

clover leaf

Either such drivers have a very poor sense of spatial relationships (closing speed, etc.) or they are incredibly inconsiderate.

I vote for inconsiderate.

Proof of this being that the Clover will invariably speed up if you attempt to pass him. Once the passing zone is cleared, the Clover will then slow down again.

This is done out of pure spite. They get their yucks this way.

Some Clovers will go to impressive lengths to prevent you from passing them. Not only will they “speed” (and remember, Clovers claim to hate “speeders”) like Jeff Gordon at Charlotte, sometimes they will (also like Jeff Gordon) use their car to physically block you from passing. They’ll see you about to move into the left lane to pass – and they’ll move into the left lane to prevent you from passing. I have had this done to me many times. Hence it is critical to get the drop on the Clover. Never let him know you plan to pass. Just do it, quickly – before the dull-witted beast has time to react.

If you succeed in passing, the Clover will flash his headlights and honk his horn at you – not unlike an ape at the zoo throwing his own scheisse through the bars. But of course the ape has his reasons.

And so does Clover.Clover old guy

It’s a mystery, unless you understand the Clover mentality.

A normal person who happened to be a slow driver would be happy that you passed. Because you are no longer following him like a lamprey on a great white and besides, it’s just common courtesy. Why should one care whether another driver is driving faster than you like to drive? If he wants to pass, great! I’ll make it easier for him by slowing and maybe even pulling off a bit onto the shoulder, to signal him that I am on his side and trying to help.

A true Clover will never do that. It is his mission to make it as difficult as possible for you to pass.

Or to merge.

Three lane interstate highway. You are building speed on the on-ramp. A Clover is in the far right lane, adjacent to the on-ramp. There is no traffic to his left (center lane) but the Clover will not move into the center lane to make your merge easier. He will – like the oaf in the hallway – expect you to adjust to him. You will either have to accelerate furiously (risking a ticket, if there’s a revenue collector in the vicinity) or lose your momentum, slow (so as to clear the Clover) and then slot in behind him.

If only Clover would move over, you could merge smoothly – and traffic would flow.

This concept is anathema to Clover’s mentality. Which is a mentality innately hostile to the live – and let live mentality. That is, to the mentality of people who are not Clovers.wonka Libertarian

It takes almost no effort – and in no way causes inconvenience – to ease over one lane, to clear the far right lane for the sake of merging traffic. To not leave two car lengths of air between your car and the next car ahead of you in a turn lane (so that more than just you will clear the intersection when the light goes green).

A Clover is defined by such acts of low-rent, passive-aggressive incivility.

Which is interesting, diagnostically speaking.

We (Libertarians) are accused by Clovers of being “selfish” and yet we are not the ones demanding that others defer to us. Yes, we may “speed” – but we do not demand that Clovers “speed,” too. We’d just like to get by the slow-poke and go on our way, thank you very much.

Why not let us?

Our “speeding” does not impede Clovers or cause them any tangible harm (their bruised feelings don’t count). But their refusal to yield –  the way they use their cars to force others to slow to their pace – does impede others. Like the oaf in your home who just stands in front of the ‘fridge and will not budge.

The on-the-road equivalent of this being the Clover who is at the head of a quarter-mile-long conga line of cars, yet it will not occur to him to pull briefly off the road so as to let all those cars get by and on their way. The Clover who matches his speed exactly to the car in the adjacent lane, so that neither lane can be used for passing.Libertarian 2

Clovers have a rubber yardstick they use to determine what’s “safe” vs. “risky” … It is their personal feelings about what constitutes “safe” and “risky.” The problem here is that there are millions of Clovers and each of them has a different set of personal feelings. Some feel that it’s ok to drive 5 MPH faster than the posted speed limit – but ticket-worthy (because “unsafe”) to drive 10 MPH faster. Other Clovers feel that the yellow advisory signs (as in curves) ought to be as religiously obeyed as a formal speed limit – and that anyone who drives faster than the suggested (but not technically a legal mandatory maximum) velocity is “dangerous.”

There’s no real standard. Just the legislated feelings of Clovers.

An interesting aspect of all this is that Libertarians have a more socially constructive attitude toward driving – toward their fellow drivers – than collectivist Clovers do. The difference between the two – as in politics – hinges on the question of coercion.

Libertarians will do their best not to impose themselves on others – on the road or otherwise. They may try to get around you. But they’d never try to block you in. They’ll drive faster than you. But do not insist you drive at any particular speed except that which you are comfortable driving. Take all day, if you like. Just – please – use your rearview and when you see another motorist coming up behind you who obviously would like to get by… let him.

As practitioners of the live – and let live – philosophy, Libertarians will usually try to avoid conflict.

The opposite of Clovers, who seem to enjoy creating it.

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Gayle
Gayle
October 17, 2015 12:40 pm

Next to the federal government, there is no group that raises my ire more than clovers. They love to get in the fast lane (typically a 75-80 mph flow ) and dawdle along at 65. Just last night I was behind an older pickup hauling junk in a smallish trailer, creeping along at 60 in the fast lane. These people potentially cause more accidents than anyone, because other drivers get impatient and then make reckless moves. Mr. Peters is right: it’s a control issue. They don ‘t care how many people have to pass them in the lane to the right. They ain’t movin’.

I would be grieved if I found out any clovers lurk among the TBP faithful.

Gayle
Gayle
October 17, 2015 12:42 pm

Clovers cause me to use the F word.

Thaisleeze
Thaisleeze
October 17, 2015 12:51 pm

You should try driving standards in Thailand, second most road deaths per capita in the world. I think Honduras tops the list.

Helmetless motorbike riders texting or talking whilst driving is the norm, sometimes with a babe in arms too, often drunk as well.

TPC
TPC
October 17, 2015 1:27 pm

I’ve never had someone diagnose me as a Libertarian based on my driving habits before.

Westcoaster
Westcoaster
October 17, 2015 2:41 pm

I don’t like clovers any more than the rest of you guys, but if the clover is driving a Prius, he/she may be using the “pulse and glide” method to increase gas mileage. Disclaimer: Even among the Priused, this method is NOT recommended when it interferes with other traffic. What it is basically is to get the car up to speed gradually, then let off the gas, and maintain speed with just the bare amount of power to stay within the speed zone you’re comfortable driving in. Sort of a power-assisted coast.
The other thing you need to know if you’re behind a Prius is, again for the sake of high mileage, we gently apply brakes when exiting a freeway or when the light ahead is red. We do that to engage the regenerative braking to recharge the traction battery. Again, as traffic will allow, but I’m assuming a good percentage of Prius drivers are clovers.

Muck About
Muck About
October 17, 2015 3:05 pm

Sorry Westcoaster, you are full of it..

I drive a Prius – my kind of car. The best way to drive it is smartly accelerate from every stop (traffic permitting) until you get 5 MPH over the speed limit. Then completely take your foot off the gas (do not downshift into “brake” mode) and coast down to your desired cruising speed. At that point, gently tease the throttle to maintain your speed. The MPG bar will zip up to between 40 to 60 MPG (depending on whether you are going up hoo, down hill or flat)..

Even better. Set your cruise control at about 3-5 MPH over the speed limit and let it do the driving for you. No one will write you a ticket for that “excessive speed” (unless you’re in a school zone) and the cruise control will do a far better job at maximizing gas milage than you can).

If you see a slower situation ahead – stop light a half block ahead – increase in traffic or whatever — drop into engine brake. Low intensity stop lights will pop up in the rear and you will merely decelerate slightly faster than coasting (there is a learning curve to judging distance vs. down shift to brake — but it pretty fast to learn). If this forces a few cars behind you to depress their brakes earlier than they ordinarily would, too bad. As a rule of thumb, drop the car into engine brake at the point where, if you just kept it there, you’d be at 0MPH at the spot you’d have to stop at anyhow..

Everyone hates “clovers” —- but not all Prius drivers have four leaves and roots..

MA

ragman
ragman
October 17, 2015 3:32 pm

@ $2/gallon, who the fuck cares what their gas mileage is.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
October 17, 2015 5:14 pm

Westcoaster says: Disclaimer: Even among the Priused, this method is NOT recommended

The Priused are not pussies, they own the road.

Muck About
Muck About
October 17, 2015 5:29 pm

@ragman: I remember when gas was $0.26 a gallon. Fuck you..

MA

Stucky
Stucky
October 17, 2015 6:16 pm

Clovers??? pffft In New Jersey we call them COCKSUCKERS!

Ouirphuqd
Ouirphuqd
October 17, 2015 6:51 pm

Clovers are the dispossessed souls of the marginal intelectuals who believe in their own entitlement. They know what is better for society because they just know. To me everyday is a new experience in suspended reality, too many people know too much about everything. It is all comic theater!

Phil from Oz
Phil from Oz
October 17, 2015 7:07 pm

Interesting ideas.

Remind me, if I CHOOSE to join existing traffic via an access ramp, I also CHOOSE to accept the consequences of that choice (i.e. matching speed of existing traffic, adjusting my position to move into an unoccupied area) This is why slip-roads have give way markings after all – if you CHOOSE to join, then you MUST be in a position to STOP IF IT UNSAFE TO PROCEED. It is YOUR problem, and YOU must mitigate the consequences of YOUR lack of planning, at YOUR inconvenience, not that of others.

Doesn’t apply in Australia, since all Aussies are as thick as a bag of rocks (I’m Australian in case you’ve not noticed), and “Driving Standards” here revolve entirely around the “I’ve got Rights Mate, so f**k off, ’cause I’m Alright” mindset.

So, for a relatively tiny population, we have lots of (relatively) minor accidents – non-injuring (to occupants), but plenty of revenue for the myriad repairers and of course the State Governments (via our 10% GST). I spent 25++ years in the UK (most of that time in London), and in that time I saw VERY few accidents, and was hit twice (once because of a systems failure in the truck behind me). Since returning to Australia, I’m averaging one impact per year (all rear end collisions, all ’cause the following car occupant was too close for the conditions).

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
October 18, 2015 1:06 am

Stuck, you’ve been very quiet. Is this your birthday, are you on vacation?

Stucky
Stucky
October 18, 2015 6:40 am

I spent almost all of yesterday away from home. Went to a funeral, did shopping for my parents, and spent the afternoon/evening with my old frenemy, Wolfgang. We had a great time. Met about five people I had not seen since graduation. That was fun too. One of them, was a multi-millionaire … oil business. I wondered where the fuck did I go wrong.

Also working on getting this house on the FSBO site … ran into technical problems. But, finally got that loaded. In fact, we have TWO showings this afternoon … so, I’m up bright and early to get this place looking as nice as possible. Going to bake a cinnamon raisin bread to get that delicious smell throughout the house. Also gotta rake the leaves cuz the yard looks messy otherwise.

I guess I’ve been busy.

Stucky
Stucky
October 18, 2015 6:58 am

EC

I just want to say one thing about the funeral “services”. There were none!!! There were no sermons, no talk about “being in a better place”, or about being reunited on glorious day. This family does not believe in that sort of thing. Once you’re dead, you stay dead … KAPUT. So his kids put together a wonderful collage of his life gathered from photographs on a CD, and that played on a large screen next to his casket. It was quite nice, even if we all just end up in a box.

Last year I went to a funeral (too many of them lately, and more coming) for my godfather, and it was almost two hours long … complete with a full blown evangelical sermon about Jesus, the resurrection, and so forth. I actually walked out of that church before it ended. Why? I couldn’t stomach the hypocrisy … my godfather simply had no use for ANY religion, especially Christianity. So, it was pretty refreshing to be at an “honest” funeral.

BTW … here’s the FSBO web page of this joint …. http://www.forsalebyowner.com/listing/2125-Meadowview-Rd-Scotch-Plains-NJ/561bcbd5aff839385c8b4568 I’ll give YOU a special deal if you want it. heh

Muck About
Muck About
October 18, 2015 7:09 am

Stuck.. If you’re selling your home are you thinking of not being “Stuck in NJ” anymore? You leave NJ and a new non de plume will be required.. (yeah, I know – only older TBPers remember the original “Stucky” sign on/off.)

By the way, I found myself very pleased to be served up with a fresh overview of you post-life philosophy! Since we are “soul brothers” if I may screw up the language, I find our view on the subject much more peaceful..

MA

Stucky
Stucky
October 18, 2015 7:15 am

Hi Muck!!!

I’ve been enjoying your posts so much!!

Sadly, I won’t be “unstuck” from this GOD-FORSAKEN state until my parent move to The Great Beyond. They refuse to move … come hell or high water, they will die in their house in NJ. I think it has something to do with them being constantly on the run as refugees up until their mid-20’s. No more running (or, changing) for them! Their modest little home is their castle, until the bitter end.

But, yes, once they make their Final Walkabout … we anticipate we’ll be out of New Jersey within a year.

Rob in Nova Scotia
Rob in Nova Scotia
October 18, 2015 8:51 am

Liked the article. A great analogy.

Stucky I checked out your link for house. Nice abode. 560 grand seems like alot to me but being that I’m from Nova Scotia prices are a bit lower.

This is what you can buy with money you get from your house. They are asking 800,00 CAD but I’m sure they will negotiate. House is about two years old and right on ocean. About ten miles from Antigonish.

http://propertyguys.com/property/index/id/88645

dave
dave
October 18, 2015 9:30 am

BS on that merging crap, it is the job of the driver of the merging car to match speed to blend into the prevailing traffic on the highway. A long time ago when driving tests were done on the highways with a cop in the passenger seat a friend of mine was told by the cop not to jump into the left lane when a car was trying to merge that is was the other driver’s job to merge not his job to avoid.
Every time I get into this situation it’s the merger who acts the clover,
I move over the car gets in the right lane along with about 5 other cars coming on the road, 2 or three of these cars immediately jump in the left lane and gun it, now I’m holding them up and have cars behind and to the right of me with no place to go that will make any of them happy. I slow down and put on my blinker to change lanes back into the right and piss of every a–hole behind me who thinks I should be doing 75 in a 55 zone and that I’m doing it to spite them, then of course the drivers behind jump into the right lane and cause me to have more cars to avoid, so f— em I stay in the right lane and let them do their job.
This always happens near where I live where I have to be in the right lane a quarter mile past the merge point to turn off to my house, also just past that same intersection the road narrows to one lane and of course that is the right lane, so every jerk out there wants to be in that lane, so again f— em, I’m not out there to make all those wannabe Dale Jr’s. happy. Learn some GD patience, is that extra 10-15 seconds so damn important to you

JC
JC
October 18, 2015 9:40 am

Whenever I run across some dumba$$ prius owner doing the “hypermiling” thing I just love to pull past them with my 13 year old 3/4 ton diesel pick up and blow black diesel soot all over them…

Gives me the warm and fuzzies. Just my way saying thank for f**king up traffic and F**k off…

Rob in Nova Scotia
Rob in Nova Scotia
October 18, 2015 9:44 am

should be 800,000.00 CAD lol

If it was 800 bucks I’d be buying it.

Anyhoo my house is a bit smaller than yours at about 1000 sq feet but other than that same type and building lot It’s in pretty good shape built in 1966 and worth about 165000 CAD. Wife wants to sell and move to shore. Hey have I got a deal for you…..

When I look a prices of houses in other parts of North America my jaw drops. I mean how can the average household making 100 k per year hope to ever own a home. When my wife and I bought our house in 2006 we thought we paid too much. We did but even still the house will be paid for in less than 5 years from now. I’ll be free and clear everything. Hopefully the can will be kicked far enough by the TBTF banks.

We’ll see.

As for the clovers maybe we got more than our share but that is because generally speaking Nova Scotians aren’t in a rush to get anywhere.

suzanna
suzanna
October 18, 2015 10:58 am

for Stucky

House is beautiful! Good luck.
One tip: change the kitchen cabinet hardware to polished chrome.
That may ensure the sale. One more tip: place a pale yellow cloth
on the kitchen table. Place some king of plant or flowers on there
as well. Happy baking!

suzanna
suzanna
October 18, 2015 10:59 am

Kind of plant or flowers

Stucky
Stucky
October 18, 2015 12:25 pm

“House is beautiful! Good luck.” ———- suzanna

Looks like we got lucky.

The second couple called to cancel. Shit!

The first couple arrived at 11AM. They left at 12:15AM. They made a cash offer for $460k. We’ll probably take it.

Anonymous
Anonymous
October 18, 2015 2:32 pm

Autonomous self driving cars should solve the problem of ridiculously thoughtless and obnoxious drivers over the next decade or so.

If we last that long as a civilization anyway, which seems increasingly less likely by the day.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
October 18, 2015 2:52 pm

For Stuck

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
October 18, 2015 2:55 pm

For Muck

starfcker
starfcker
October 18, 2015 4:53 pm

Stuck, when you do leave jersey, give florida a look. No state income tax. Homestead exemption keeps your property taxes from rising. Home can’t be taken away by lawsuit or bankruptcy. The climate is unbelievable. You can squeeze your own orange juice for breakfast, beats drinking gravy

Billy
Billy
October 18, 2015 9:59 pm

Never heard the term “Clovers” before…

It is now in my lexicon.

I’ve seen a few. Back before we moved here, I was driving home during evening rush hour. Just a few miles from home, I got on a 2 lane connector road. As are most roads here, it twisted and turned, rose and fell with the land, so most of it was a no-passing zone.

My luck, I get stuck behind some doosh in an early 90’s era shitbox Chevy 2WD pickup truck. He wasn’t even hauling anything. The speed limit is 45. He’s driving less than 35. More like 30. Nothing particularly wrong with his vehicle that I could see, other than it was a shitbox…

Traffic starts to pile up behind me. One car. Two. Five. Fifteen. Now there are so many I can’t see the end of the line… folks are honking, getting right pissed off…

Unbelievably, doosh slows down…

We finally get to a passing zone, and it’s clear coming the other way. I move to pass. Blinker and everything…

Doosh literally moves over into the oncoming lane to prevent me from passing.

I went left. He went left. Completely into the oncoming lane. I damn near had to ditch off on the left side of the road, it was so unexpected. Mash the brakes and juke back to the right…

I went right. He went right. Back and forth, this pus-filled colostomy bag, boil on the asshole of the world was going out of his way to prevent anyone from passing him…

Now he Officially Has My Attention.

It’s one thing to be a dick. It’s completely another to intentionally make an attempt on someone’s life and limb, which is what I took this for…

I didn’t even know the cocksmack. Never saw him before in my life. Now he’s trying to run me off the road. I was just in some chump econo-box car – his truck outweighed me several times over.

So, I’m presented with a choice: I can confront this choad. I can report his ass to the police. I can just blow it off, get around him and then get on with my life.

I chose the latter. I got around him at the earliest opportunity and just went home. Long day and I did not trust myself enough to confront him. Plus, I didn’t own a cell phone at the time, so calling the cops was out…

Meh…

It wasn’t the first Clover and it won’t be the last one… they come in all shapes and sizes – the stupid fucks. And for all the talk about the Prius-affected, there’s damn few of them around here. They’re hilariously outnumbered, so they keep their heads down…