LA Notes: Latinos, Rockets, and…Ava!

Los Angeles–Back from Cedars Sinai Medical Center, which has ushered into this veil of whatever it is a veil of the world’s most advanced and meritorious granddaughter, the only credible evidence for Darwin. Helluva baby. A military-minded friend said I should regard her as “a howitzer round fired eighty-five years down-range.” See below for specifications.

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Ava Carlyle Vernier, her own self. Eight pounds seven ounces, all systems go. A major advance in biology. The evolutionary progression: Al Sharpton, the Great Apes, Neanderthals, Cro-Magnons, Ava Carlyle. Estimated IQ: Low four figures. Nobility: Obvious. Does not look like every baby ever born. If respiratory capacity may be judged by volume of outraged squalling, she may have the best lungs on the planet. (“Where is this? I don’t like it. I’m hungry. Put me back. Give me something to eat. Now.”)

Meanwhile I have been studying the Latino population of Los Angeles, something I have wanted to do for some time. Ever since the US set about merging with Mexico, I have wondered: Are Latinos going to form a separate country within the country, hostile to the white population? If so, God help us. Are truculent whites going to force them into said status? If so, also God help us.  Or, since they are not going to go away, is amicable accommodation possible? To investigate these vexing matters, I and Violeta (my spousal unit)–spent many hours over two weeks of walking the streets of Van Nuys, Sherman Oaks, East LA, and the like.

I had forgotten how much I liked California. The relaxed open friendliness appeals. Things work, it is usually warm, and nobody seems upset about anything. You could get used to ti.

Anyway, profound anthropological observations: Anglos (which here means all whites) and Latinos get along well, apparently without much noticing that they are Latinos and Anglos. Browns work in stores, restaurants, drive cabs and trucks and do the ordinary things of life. No one seemed to think this curious. I saw no trace of wariness or resentment. (If you live in southern California this will sound hopelessly naive, but I haven’t been here much since hippy days.)  There is no Knockout Game. Shoe stores rest comfortably by night.

This easy association may not exist in Arizona or Kentucky where the people are different. A friend in Winchester, Virginia tells me that Latino students in the high school do not get along well at all with the circumambient Anglos. California is not Winchester.

Now, spaceships. We must never forget spaceships. Ava Carlyle’s dad, Alex, makes them at SpaceX in Hawthorne. It is the kind of thing you would expect of the father of such an advanced life-form as Ava Carlyle. Think Lara, Jor-El, and Ava. Anyway, we got Alex to give us a private tour. SpaceX doesn’t allow photos or the taking of notes and says don’t talk about what you see, so I won’t, other than to say “Hooooo-aaah!” It was nice to see that at least some young Americans can do difficult things right despite the best efforts of the schools.

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A space ship coming home. What Ava’s dad makes. Photo stolen from SpaceX.

I noticed a lot of Latino techs, one of whom was named Jesús, pronounced in Spanish approximately Hey Zeus. Many of his coworkers pronounce it Anglo style, Jeez Us. I imagined conversations at the local bar, “Yeah, I was at work, and Jesus told me….”

We saw Cici, I will call her, a high-school classmate of Violeta. Now a citizen, at age eighteen she entered the US illegally along with about twenty young men (men being the criminal sex, young the criminal age) in harrowing fashion. She managed to get a job in a shoe factory, rose to be supervisor, dropped out to get married and make two babies, then got on as kitchen staff at a school and, taking English classes at night, and rose to be head of food management. Very middle class. Worse things have happened.

Over lunch I asked her whether there was friction between white and brown. “No.” This confirmed my observations and those of friends who live in LA and, for that matter, many other places. How about problems between Latinos and the police? “No,” she said, then added that the gangs and narcos had problems but, she said, that was because they were criminals, not because they were brown.

As in almost everywhere, the Mexican cartels are neck-deep in the drug trade and spend much time shooting each other. This is unlikely to change. America has a voracious appetite for drugs and somebody is going to service it.

The politics of the immigrants get complicated. Cici has no objection to illegals, since she was one, but she has strong opinions about those Hispanics, of which there are too many, who come to live on welfare. “I work and pay taxes to support them while they do nothing?” Of course, a country stupid enough to support freeloaders is not in a position to complain that it is supporting freeloaders.

Then there are the well-employed Latinos who oppose immigration because the newcomers will take their jobs at lower wages. Where have I heard that before?

I concluded, for what it’s worth: If you figure that since the Latinos are not going to go away whether you want them to or not, it is a good idea to have them be part of society, then LA is promising. If you detest Latinos and want to get rid of them, or to avoid mixing, LA is bad, because the Latinos are not being suitably intolerable. Mass deportations would require a lot of political support. Ain’t gonna happen.

And a real problem for racial purists is the hypothetical but common Anna Gonzalez, aged nineteen, born of illegal parents in LA and therefore a citizen. Anna speaks unaccented Californian English as well as Spanish. Or, increasingly, wretched Spanish. She works at the International Foods Market as a sales clerk. She is pretty. (Hey, I’m a guy, and anyway it has assimilational import).  She doesn’t think she is a Mexican. Mexicans don’t think she is a Mexican. Because she isn’t There are more of her every year.

The time for preventing Mexicanization of the state is long past, methinks. We can want to expel Latinos, or say we should have, but as a practical matter we are not going to throw out American citizens who sound like us.

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The proud mother, Emily Anne, age seven. If you feed them all sorts of curious things happen, such as Ava Carlyle. The above wasn’t child-abuse: She has a solid top-belay and the wall is indoors. She actually got over the overhang.

Ava’s mom was instrumental in our demographic studies. Very short and very pregnant, she looked, said her friends, like a wrecking ball on sticks, bur nonetheless drove us around in her Jeep, a huge monster. She says it is like driving a pit bull. I suggested she use it to hunt Vovlos, and crush them.

We went to East LA, a huge and almost entirely Hispanic enclave, and walked for hours. I had been lectured by various nativist websites that Latinos throw trash everywhere, which they do not in Mexico, so I was interested to see whether they did in LA as claimed. Yes, they do. Both Eastlos and Van Nuys are liberally strewn. Why in LA and not in Guadalajara, I don’t know. Maybe the strewers are Central American, or maybe the illegals are dirtballs.

I wondered whether there would be more hostility when Latinos were in overwhelming numbers, as they are in East LA. No. In los callejones, the alleys, we found narrow streets lined with stalls selling clothes, toys, boom boxes, sloes. Dense throngs moved through, music came from countless stereos, children held their parents’ hands, and all was sound and color and life. Infrequent gringos or couples flowed along with the current, and no one seemed to care. Don’t try it in Detroit, amigos.

Conservatives are often horrified b y this sort of thing, though I am not sure how walking through a crowded alley and buying toys for the kids portends the end of civilization.

The cultural difference is real. Americans are Nordic, efficient and good at space ships. They invent things. They are not good at flavor, flair, liveliness, and are usually described as chilly and distant. Norway doesn’t do flamenco. Yet there is a distinction between intolerable cultural differences, such as looting malls or not letting girls go to school, and differences that are merely differences, unfamiliar, or annoying, like listening to loud mariachi music too late at night.

So where are these people heading? Into the middle class, most of them, eventually, is my guess. It will be rocky at times. They aren’t studious and government wants to turn them into welfare parasites or impose damn-fool things like bilingual education. Immigration wasn’t a great idea in the first place, and wasn’t necessary, but what is happening, at least in many places, is a hell of a lot better than what could have happened.

Of course I was wrong once, back in 1927 I think it was, and maybe I’m due now.

And now off to help satiate a small localized  famine. The kid grows like an unnecessary federal program. A most promising howitzer round.

 

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jamesthewanderer
jamesthewanderer
March 11, 2016 11:21 am

Grandchildren turn thinking adults into drooling imbeciles. Then again, it probably keeps down the overall casualty count.

Blessings to you, Fred Reed. I probably won’t see grandchildren, but I can cheer for those who do. I hope your kids and mine survive what’s coming, and I’m trying to see to it that mine will. That’s all we can do; teach, push, and equip / prepare. Best of luck (to us all).

Ed
Ed
March 11, 2016 11:25 am

Fred beat me to a grand daughter by about a month. Mine is due April 3- ish.

starfcker
starfcker
March 11, 2016 12:20 pm
Kevin
Kevin
March 11, 2016 12:45 pm

I live in Los Angeles and find the author’s observations to be most astute. You must have been an intelligence officer in the military as you seem to be able to get a grasp on general conditions pretty quickly.

BUCKHED
BUCKHED
March 11, 2016 1:24 pm

Fred…you ignorant slut…..Fred should have went to Compton and asked the few remaining blacks how they felt about the Latino’s .

Fred should have walked those place after dark and tell me how safe he felt .

Fed should have likewise asked if they were in line with Laraza in wanting to take back Southwest/Cali ? Has ever seen the marches in Cali were there isn’t one American flag…only the flag of Mexico being flown ?

When I lived n Cali I used to go into L.A. to the garment district to shop for suits etc. It was on Broadway . I knew one axiom when I was there…have my white ass in my car and headed home before sundown .

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
March 11, 2016 2:13 pm

Bucky, as a cop said back in the 80’s, nobody is out in downtown LA except hookers, crazies and drug users. With gentrification, downtown LA is much different. I recall a downtown of Craby Joe’s and the Richard Ramirez cheap hotel Carlyle. Now, they have fashionable bars and fancy apartments.

Your freebie about Compton is a red herring, the blacks sold their homes for a premium and moved up here to the AV. If those who stayed felt pressured by the new Hispanic residents, it may be because the blacks were driven out like the criminal trash they are. I told you that my Salvadoran bro-in-law said some blacks jumped him on the street and took his beer one night. He chased them and a helpful man seeing he was unarmed, handed him a machete. He said there was another time the blacks beat the crap out of him and left him lying on the sidewalk. He told of the time a black dude tried to mug his friend as he was leaving a bar, his friend pulled a gun and killed him. Crime has increased a lot here in the AV, home invasions, murder. You want to cry for the blacks in Compton, asshole?

Unbiased
Unbiased
March 11, 2016 2:31 pm

Immigration is a very difficult issue. I believe personal responsibility and accountability transcends white, brown, red & yellow.

I wouldn’t trade one El Coyote or Cici for 15,000 Al Sharpton’s and the like. Just my two cents…

EL Coyote Alien Module 26
EL Coyote Alien Module 26
March 11, 2016 2:36 pm

I read somewhere that a dual-minded man is unstable in all his ways. It must be God’s little joke to make man with two sides, right and left – diestra and siniestra. Right thinking and sinister thinking. We have a dark side and a light side.

The dark side is that part of our brain that we don’t know, the reptile brain that acts without thought, it lives in the now while our conscious part of the brain lives in the immediate past. The reptile brain has no morality, it acts first. It is instinctive like a beast. The reptile brain can act so fast that the conscious brain sees its actions as if in slow motion.

Cervantes covered the differences between men of action and scholars. The world needs both kinds and it is by devine judgement that we are equiped to be either Morlocks or Eloi.

bb
bb
March 11, 2016 2:50 pm

I have been making deliveries at LA FedEx terminals for years and never had any problems with Hispanics .Never had any problems at the truck stops or restaurants. Overall I have enjoyed myself in California . I wouldn’t want to be in Southern California during a SHTF collapse but that doesn’t have anything to do with Hispanics. Very few ways out of southern California. The interstate highways would be jammed up very quickly.

On Point
On Point
March 11, 2016 2:51 pm

I just hit “like” on El Coyote’s 2:36 PM comment. Very true. It’s never over until it’s done.

Until then, we all must work out our salvation with fear and trembling.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
March 11, 2016 3:09 pm

Where would we go, bb? Arizona is like going from the frying pan into the fire. They opened up the 14 in the early 70’s . Ten years later, the survivalists here saw it as a threat to their safety in case the LA trash fled here. It’s been a slow flow but yes, the 14 has brought LA scum up here.

Black, White or Hispanic, they are a bunch of narcissistic assholes who find it very important to beat you to the light or pass you even when they will be turning left one block ahead.

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
March 11, 2016 3:42 pm

“Black, White or Hispanic, they are a bunch of narcissistic assholes who find it very important to beat you to the light or pass you even when they will be turning left one block ahead.”

Huh. Go figure… I think some of them made there way here too….

JFish
JFish
March 11, 2016 4:31 pm

El Coyote @ 2:36 PM:

This is true. Life is truly like a Greek Tragedy and a constant battle between our Apollonian and Dionysian tendencies.

Which one will win? Whichever one we feed the most, I suppose.

No different than Moby Dick’s Father Mapple’s sermon versus Al Pacino’s portrayal in the film Scarface.

Both fictional parables. One driven by God. The other of the world.

Good stuff.

G’nite.

Anonymous
Anonymous
March 11, 2016 4:43 pm

God Bless Miss Ava! Congratulations to happy new parents!

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
March 11, 2016 5:10 pm

Unbiased says: Immigration is a very difficult issue. I believe personal responsibility and accountability transcends white, brown, red & yellow.

I’m a pocho, an American-born border beaner. We aren’t normally pro-immigrant. We’re more like Cesar Chavez – opposed to foreign labor. I told you that it really pissed me off that Reagan let in those thousands of Salvies back in the 80’s. I still feel a bit of resentment when I hear of some Mexican sliding in the easy way, through marriage to an American latina.

I don’t know why it bothers me. My dad did the same thing but he went to jail and got deported and shit before he got the papers. I don’t know, I guess I have more respect for the trial of having to trek through the desert for a day or two than the easy way.

Mahtomedi
Mahtomedi
March 11, 2016 6:19 pm

The future of Southern California: Tijuana with niggers. Plus a naval base and 2 L.A. ports to unload shit made in China.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
March 11, 2016 6:33 pm

It’s TJ already. And we could ship you some Nigras if you want, we have plenty.
I don’t understand how the naval base and ports tie in.

I was at the Vallarta, a Mexican grocery chain that my buddy said was funded with drug money, and the women shopping there mostly look like we are in Tijuana.

However, they are shopping to cook. A fat dyke-looking American princess wearing a baseball cap was walking around aimlessly, looking at the veggies like she had no idea what to do with them or how to cook them. Asshole.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
March 11, 2016 6:51 pm

This SpaceX stuff sounds like buck rogers. They succeeded in landing the rocket upright the first time but then they got cocky. Oops. This isn’t the moon fellas, you can land upright there, no problemo.

goofyfoot
goofyfoot
March 12, 2016 6:10 am

Being from San Diego in the 70’s thru 95, we call it HellA. There’s nothing worse for a native San Diegan than a fucking HellA transplant. Nothing. I’ll say it again. The only reason to even be in HellA is to change planes!