When it rear ends me, who do I exchange insurance info with?
Dutchman
May 13, 2016 9:55 am
This is a fantasy.
Better call that fucking genius Elon Musk. He’s really good at extracting grants, tax write-offs, set asides, rebates, selling carbon tax credits, anything but turning a real profit. And of course these cars are going to be all electric and run off of L-ion (laptop batteries – not kidding).
Wonder how these cars will work in the ice and snow?
YODA_bite me (you know who)
May 13, 2016 9:57 am
They will shrink city coffers for lack of tickets (fines). This, in turn, will cause cities to become even more punitive by raising taxes and working diligently to invent new methods to extract hard-earned money to feed the beast.
Stucky
May 13, 2016 10:03 am
“This is a fantasy.” —— Dutchman
According to the article below, there will be TEN MILLION driver-less cars on the road in ….. FOUR years.
So far, they seem to run into things, just like the cars people drive.
Stucky
May 13, 2016 10:18 am
Self-driving cars replace human eyes with a camera, and the human brain with a computer.
You better hope that camera and computer NEVER EVER FAIL … especially, for example, while driving down a curvy mountain road. Seriously, can they make computers and cameras with ONE HUNDRED PERCENT reliability? Cuz that the only fucking way I would even consider getting in one of those cars.
Tim
May 13, 2016 10:19 am
When I was a kid, and used to daydream about what the future might look like, this was one of the things I thought could actually happen.
I think that once they can perfect (or improve) the technology, it will be a cool thing. I can imagine taking a long road trip and being able to snooze in the passenger seat. I fall asleep any time I ride in a car, even just driving to church on Sunday morning, so a self-driving car that will allow me to catch some serious Z’s while riding is a major plus for me.
Stucky
May 13, 2016 10:25 am
I wonder if it’s possible for a person driving a car (like, me) to “fuck with” a driver-less car?
For example, … tailgating. Will the driver-less car speed up? If so, can I “force” it go 100mph? Or, what if I throw an empty bag of McShits burgers out the window, AND someone else is tailgating … will it cause the driver-less car to swerve into tree?
I’ve been working in software support for over 20 years. The software WILL have bugs! And that’s on top of any hardware failures that WILL happen.
That said, I have a 1 1/2 to 2 hour commute each way to work (do it about once a week). I live out in the middle of no-where and have an irregular schedule so car pooling and/or mass transit are a no-go. Having a car that drove itself would be a big benefit and allow me to do something else during that time. It’s not likely that I would buy a self driving car for at least several years to allow them to get some of the worst bugs out. But there’s NO way I would ever buy a car that didn’t allow me to override the self driving function if/when I decided it was necessary.
ottomatik
May 13, 2016 10:53 am
Yuuge loss of personal freedom, to think there are utter sheeple clamoring for this loss is a sad testament to how effective central command has evolved in the cradle of liberty.
She weeps.
rhs jr
May 13, 2016 10:55 am
If you are dumb enough to go 75 miles per hour in a driver less car on I-75 in South Florida, then this technology will do us all a big favor.
Bea Lever
May 13, 2016 10:55 am
I will be driving “old school” prolly til I die. Me thinks all the suckers can go first on this project and get killed by running over a cliff etc.
Where are the fukkin flying cars they promised, this is NOT a substitute for flying. Can you imagine the 80 IQ crowd loose with a flying car?
jamesthewanderer
May 13, 2016 10:57 am
Let’s see – the Internet allows one to hack computer systems you are nowhere near (see Guccifer, Hacker of Clinton’s home Email server [from Romania, no less!]). IF a car has a connection outside of it of any kind (WiFi or whatever) then it will be vulnerable. SOMEONE will be able to take control / stop it / crash it and cause casualties.
ONLY if every politician is required to drive one with NO virus protection would I agree to this. Then we can rebuild in a fashion that makes sense (I would WALK until the politicians are dealt with).
Kill Bill
May 13, 2016 10:59 am
Look. Fkrs.
I said Flying Car.
Not a POS car that wont allow me to pass the cloven-asshat in front of me with a Hillary bumper sticker.
card802
May 13, 2016 11:17 am
Google wants a driver-less car because they know the more you are connected and online, the more money they make.
Think of all the extra time you can be online if your car can drive itself…..
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Anonymous
May 13, 2016 11:27 am
I think that if such came to be, the general public would start relying on them and lose any driving skills at all, should they have to take over control. Heck, I had to teach a 25-year old girl how to address an envelope last month because she could only handle text and email. What makes you think she would have learned to actually drive a car if there was a “simple” option?
I think that computers have not shown themselves to be free enough of error to trust my life in it’s hands like that. Plus, assuming the best on that front, how many would keep their car repaired to keep it running without flaws that the computer can’t handle?
I think that it would become extremely easy to “troll” these cars by pedestrians or pranks and that restless teens and others would take full advantage of that.
I think that invasive government/corporate tracking would only increase and could easily see a “miles driven” tax implemented in such a situation.
I think that I will never use or own one of these self-driving cars. To heck with them!
Even the Jetsons got to drive their own flying cars…………
Bea Lever
May 13, 2016 12:11 pm
Star- That’s really cool but I’m too old to start a 20 year payment plan on a flying car, and I’m too chicken to by a older model that needs a little work. At that point you call the tow truck to scrape YOU and the flying car up off the ground.
TPC
May 13, 2016 12:19 pm
I don’t like them.
polecat
May 13, 2016 12:29 pm
So the question I have concerning driverless cars is….are we to be wrapped in aluminum foil before being conveyed to our destination…or after……
…”and contrary to what was commonly believed by medical experts in your century………smoking is actually good for you”….
polecat
May 13, 2016 12:31 pm
The injury lawsuits will be EPIC !!
TickyToc
May 13, 2016 12:53 pm
I don’t believe people will be given much of a choice. As these vehicles become mainstream the insurance rates on car’s driven by real people will explode. No worries, insurance rates going down will not be allowed to be saved by the individual, as Admin. said the next step will be mileage tax.
I am hoping against hope we go mad max before then.
harry p.
May 13, 2016 1:01 pm
how bad can it be?
we already have mindless people and the world is going peachy, right?
lol
fuck driverless cars, they can only work with a computer that is capable of processing all the possible scenarios a person’s mind can process. they can only do what their programmed logic instructs them to do the moment after computers are smart enough to adaptively learn we’ll be at war with them ala Terminator.
how ironic, people are working to make computers capable of learning while also making sure humans don’t.
Brian
May 13, 2016 1:04 pm
No fucking way will I ever step into one of those.
ottomatik
May 13, 2016 1:09 pm
It will be great! Especially if you like being told how you will go, where you can go, and when you can go, fucking statist wet dream.
TickyToc
May 13, 2016 1:17 pm
One will also have to wonder with all the perfectly programmed driverless cars perfectly obeying all speed limits, turn signals, maintaining proper breaking distances, etc… what excuses will LEO have to pull you over for their searches, harassment, and asset forfeiture payments. We all know that will continue. They can set up search stations like truck weigh in stations and your car will automatically take you there.
Hell the damn things will probably be programmed to detect any cash, drugs, firearms, and notify the appropriate authorities. LEO wet dream come true.
AC
May 13, 2016 2:11 pm
I have yet to see any real discussion of where liability will land. When these things fail and crash, who is liable? Is the the owner? The manufacturer? The company that supplied the crappy software? The government, for allowing these things to operate on public roads?
All I see here is a full employment act for lawyers, with no sane resolution on the horizon.
Das Arschloch2
May 13, 2016 2:28 pm
What should the driverless car be called?
The millennial falcon.
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Anonymous
May 13, 2016 3:00 pm
The Simpsons predicted driverless vehicles.
If The Simpsons predicted it, it will happen.
Get used to it.
Mesomorph
May 13, 2016 3:05 pm
Besides the software, hardware, reliability and legal issues, these vehicles will be open to way too many analog hacks. A new generation of highwaymen will stop self driving trucks on remote sections of highway by putting a tumbleweed in the road to stop the truck and then steal the contents. 20 blacklivesmatter protesters could bring any major city to a screeching halt by simultaneously kicking a soccer ball into 20 major intersections. Late for work? Just toss a beach ball out your window on the freeway and blame your tardiness on the traffic jam you caused behind yourself.
Will I ride in one? If it runs on Mac OS , then yes. Anything from Microsoft, no fucking way.
Will I buy one? At a certain point I won’t have a choice. The clever assholes at Ford will slip it in with the drivers seat package. If I want a drivers seat it costs $4,800 and comes with autopilot and a cup holder.
David
May 13, 2016 3:07 pm
Given the number of jerks I see driving yakking on the phone and looking at the screen to text we essentially already have a lot of “driverless” cars on the road.
yahsure
May 13, 2016 6:00 pm
For some it may be a good idea.The same people who shouldn’t handle knives or a gun.
a cruel accountant
May 14, 2016 6:29 pm
Hmmmm driverless cars and Tinder.
EL Coyote
May 14, 2016 9:04 pm
We are in a desert community north of the big city, LA. This valley was simply a sleepy little alfalfa and sheep farming community forever. Since the 80’s they have been predicting this would turn into another San Fernando Valley with LA type traffic. Those fuckers down there have an attitude. They drive like maniacs.
Last year I had a ‘could it be’ moment. Could we be approaching carmageddon? This year it is undeniably so, we can now boast Phoenix temps and Phoenician gridlock is fast on the heels of that.
I took the once lonely road to the mall. Avenue P east was like a fucking freeway on a Saturday. These fuckers need to read TBP. They evidently have not heard the world is coming to an end.
As it was in the days of Noah, so will it be at the coming of the Son of Man. For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark.…
When it rear ends me, who do I exchange insurance info with?
This is a fantasy.
Better call that fucking genius Elon Musk. He’s really good at extracting grants, tax write-offs, set asides, rebates, selling carbon tax credits, anything but turning a real profit. And of course these cars are going to be all electric and run off of L-ion (laptop batteries – not kidding).
Wonder how these cars will work in the ice and snow?
They will shrink city coffers for lack of tickets (fines). This, in turn, will cause cities to become even more punitive by raising taxes and working diligently to invent new methods to extract hard-earned money to feed the beast.
“This is a fantasy.” —— Dutchman
According to the article below, there will be TEN MILLION driver-less cars on the road in ….. FOUR years.
http://www.businessinsider.com/report-10-million-self-driving-cars-will-be-on-the-road-by-2020-2015-5-6
So far, they seem to run into things, just like the cars people drive.
Self-driving cars replace human eyes with a camera, and the human brain with a computer.
You better hope that camera and computer NEVER EVER FAIL … especially, for example, while driving down a curvy mountain road. Seriously, can they make computers and cameras with ONE HUNDRED PERCENT reliability? Cuz that the only fucking way I would even consider getting in one of those cars.
When I was a kid, and used to daydream about what the future might look like, this was one of the things I thought could actually happen.
I think that once they can perfect (or improve) the technology, it will be a cool thing. I can imagine taking a long road trip and being able to snooze in the passenger seat. I fall asleep any time I ride in a car, even just driving to church on Sunday morning, so a self-driving car that will allow me to catch some serious Z’s while riding is a major plus for me.
I wonder if it’s possible for a person driving a car (like, me) to “fuck with” a driver-less car?
For example, … tailgating. Will the driver-less car speed up? If so, can I “force” it go 100mph? Or, what if I throw an empty bag of McShits burgers out the window, AND someone else is tailgating … will it cause the driver-less car to swerve into tree?
http://rebelmetropolis.org/the-40-funniest-ways-self-driving-cars-will-fail-fucking-hard/
I’ve been working in software support for over 20 years. The software WILL have bugs! And that’s on top of any hardware failures that WILL happen.
That said, I have a 1 1/2 to 2 hour commute each way to work (do it about once a week). I live out in the middle of no-where and have an irregular schedule so car pooling and/or mass transit are a no-go. Having a car that drove itself would be a big benefit and allow me to do something else during that time. It’s not likely that I would buy a self driving car for at least several years to allow them to get some of the worst bugs out. But there’s NO way I would ever buy a car that didn’t allow me to override the self driving function if/when I decided it was necessary.
Yuuge loss of personal freedom, to think there are utter sheeple clamoring for this loss is a sad testament to how effective central command has evolved in the cradle of liberty.
She weeps.
If you are dumb enough to go 75 miles per hour in a driver less car on I-75 in South Florida, then this technology will do us all a big favor.
I will be driving “old school” prolly til I die. Me thinks all the suckers can go first on this project and get killed by running over a cliff etc.
Where are the fukkin flying cars they promised, this is NOT a substitute for flying. Can you imagine the 80 IQ crowd loose with a flying car?
Let’s see – the Internet allows one to hack computer systems you are nowhere near (see Guccifer, Hacker of Clinton’s home Email server [from Romania, no less!]). IF a car has a connection outside of it of any kind (WiFi or whatever) then it will be vulnerable. SOMEONE will be able to take control / stop it / crash it and cause casualties.
ONLY if every politician is required to drive one with NO virus protection would I agree to this. Then we can rebuild in a fashion that makes sense (I would WALK until the politicians are dealt with).
Look. Fkrs.
I said Flying Car.
Not a POS car that wont allow me to pass the cloven-asshat in front of me with a Hillary bumper sticker.
Google wants a driver-less car because they know the more you are connected and online, the more money they make.
Think of all the extra time you can be online if your car can drive itself…..
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I think that if such came to be, the general public would start relying on them and lose any driving skills at all, should they have to take over control. Heck, I had to teach a 25-year old girl how to address an envelope last month because she could only handle text and email. What makes you think she would have learned to actually drive a car if there was a “simple” option?
I think that computers have not shown themselves to be free enough of error to trust my life in it’s hands like that. Plus, assuming the best on that front, how many would keep their car repaired to keep it running without flaws that the computer can’t handle?
I think that it would become extremely easy to “troll” these cars by pedestrians or pranks and that restless teens and others would take full advantage of that.
I think that invasive government/corporate tracking would only increase and could easily see a “miles driven” tax implemented in such a situation.
I think that I will never use or own one of these self-driving cars. To heck with them!
https://youtu.be/QDcgoVV4TK4
Even the Jetsons got to drive their own flying cars…………
Star- That’s really cool but I’m too old to start a 20 year payment plan on a flying car, and I’m too chicken to by a older model that needs a little work. At that point you call the tow truck to scrape YOU and the flying car up off the ground.
I don’t like them.
So the question I have concerning driverless cars is….are we to be wrapped in aluminum foil before being conveyed to our destination…or after……
…”and contrary to what was commonly believed by medical experts in your century………smoking is actually good for you”….
The injury lawsuits will be EPIC !!
I don’t believe people will be given much of a choice. As these vehicles become mainstream the insurance rates on car’s driven by real people will explode. No worries, insurance rates going down will not be allowed to be saved by the individual, as Admin. said the next step will be mileage tax.
I am hoping against hope we go mad max before then.
how bad can it be?
we already have mindless people and the world is going peachy, right?
lol
fuck driverless cars, they can only work with a computer that is capable of processing all the possible scenarios a person’s mind can process. they can only do what their programmed logic instructs them to do the moment after computers are smart enough to adaptively learn we’ll be at war with them ala Terminator.
how ironic, people are working to make computers capable of learning while also making sure humans don’t.
No fucking way will I ever step into one of those.
It will be great! Especially if you like being told how you will go, where you can go, and when you can go, fucking statist wet dream.
One will also have to wonder with all the perfectly programmed driverless cars perfectly obeying all speed limits, turn signals, maintaining proper breaking distances, etc… what excuses will LEO have to pull you over for their searches, harassment, and asset forfeiture payments. We all know that will continue. They can set up search stations like truck weigh in stations and your car will automatically take you there.
Hell the damn things will probably be programmed to detect any cash, drugs, firearms, and notify the appropriate authorities. LEO wet dream come true.
I have yet to see any real discussion of where liability will land. When these things fail and crash, who is liable? Is the the owner? The manufacturer? The company that supplied the crappy software? The government, for allowing these things to operate on public roads?
All I see here is a full employment act for lawyers, with no sane resolution on the horizon.
What should the driverless car be called?
The millennial falcon.
[img
[/img]
The Simpsons predicted driverless vehicles.
If The Simpsons predicted it, it will happen.
Get used to it.
Besides the software, hardware, reliability and legal issues, these vehicles will be open to way too many analog hacks. A new generation of highwaymen will stop self driving trucks on remote sections of highway by putting a tumbleweed in the road to stop the truck and then steal the contents. 20 blacklivesmatter protesters could bring any major city to a screeching halt by simultaneously kicking a soccer ball into 20 major intersections. Late for work? Just toss a beach ball out your window on the freeway and blame your tardiness on the traffic jam you caused behind yourself.
However, if consumers want it and automakers pay to develop the technology that’s fine. My problem is this:
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/01/16/obama-wants-4-billion-to-subsidize-silicon-valley-driverless-cars/
I certainly don’t believe that our government should be adding over a million dollars a day for the next ten years to our budget deficit over this.
Will I ride in one? If it runs on Mac OS , then yes. Anything from Microsoft, no fucking way.
Will I buy one? At a certain point I won’t have a choice. The clever assholes at Ford will slip it in with the drivers seat package. If I want a drivers seat it costs $4,800 and comes with autopilot and a cup holder.
Given the number of jerks I see driving yakking on the phone and looking at the screen to text we essentially already have a lot of “driverless” cars on the road.
For some it may be a good idea.The same people who shouldn’t handle knives or a gun.
Hmmmm driverless cars and Tinder.
We are in a desert community north of the big city, LA. This valley was simply a sleepy little alfalfa and sheep farming community forever. Since the 80’s they have been predicting this would turn into another San Fernando Valley with LA type traffic. Those fuckers down there have an attitude. They drive like maniacs.
Last year I had a ‘could it be’ moment. Could we be approaching carmageddon? This year it is undeniably so, we can now boast Phoenix temps and Phoenician gridlock is fast on the heels of that.
I took the once lonely road to the mall. Avenue P east was like a fucking freeway on a Saturday. These fuckers need to read TBP. They evidently have not heard the world is coming to an end.
As it was in the days of Noah, so will it be at the coming of the Son of Man. For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark.…