ALL LIVES MATTER

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Guest Post by Officer Jay Stalien

I have come to realize something that is still hard for me to understand to this day. The following may be a shock to some coming from an African American, but the mere fact that it may be shocking to some is prima facie evidence of the sad state of affairs that we are in as Humans.

I used to be so torn inside growing up. Here I am, a young African-American born and raised in Brooklyn, NY wanting to be a cop. I watched and lived through the crime that took place in the hood. My own black people killing others over nothing. Crack heads and heroin addicts lined the lobby of my building as I shuffled around them to make my way to our 1 bedroom apartment with 6 of us living inside. I used to be woken up in the middle of the night by the sound of gun fire, only to look outside and see that it was 2 African Americans shooting at each other.

It never sat right with me. I wanted to help my community and stop watching the blood of African Americans spilled on the street at the hands of a fellow black man. I became a cop because black lives in my community, along with ALL lives, mattered to me, and wanted to help stop the bloodshed.

As time went by in my law enforcement career, I quickly began to realize something. I remember the countless times I stood 2 inches from a young black man, around my age, laying on his back, gasping for air as blood filled his lungs. I remember them bleeding profusely with the unforgettable smell of deoxygenated dark red blood in the air, as it leaked from the bullet holes in his body on to the hot sidewalk on a summer day. I remember the countless family members who attacked me, spit on me, cursed me out, as I put up crime scene tape to cordon off the crime scene, yelling and screaming out of pain and anger at the sight of their loved ones taking their last breath. I never took it personally, I knew they were hurting. I remember the countless times I had to order new uniforms, because the ones I had on, were bloody from the blood of another black victim…of black on black crime. I remember the countless times I got back in my patrol car, distraught after having watched another black male die in front me, having to start my preliminary report something like this:

Suspect- Black/ Male, Victim-Black /Male.

I remember the countless times I canvassed the area afterwards, and asked everyone “did you see who did it”, and the popular response from the very same family members was always, “Fuck the Police, I aint no snitch, I’m gonna take care of this myself. This happened every single time, every single homicide, black on black, and then my realization became clearer.

I woke up every morning, put my freshly pressed uniform on, shined my badge, functioned checked my weapon, kissed my wife and kid, and waited for my wife to say the same thing she always does before I leave, “Make sure you come back home to us”. I always replied, “I will”, but the truth was I was never sure if I would. I almost lost my life on this job, and every call, every stop, every moment that I had this uniform on, was another possibility for me to almost lose my life again. I was a target in the very community I swore to protect, the very community I wanted to help. As a matter of fact, they hated my very presence. They called me “Uncle Tom”, and “wanna be white boy”, and I couldn’t understand why. My own fellow black men and women attacking me, wishing for my death, wishing for the death of my family. I was so confused, so torn, I couldn’t understand why my own black people would turn against me, when every time they called …I was there. Every time someone died….I was there. Every time they were going through one of the worst moments in their lives…I was there. So why was I the enemy? I dove deep into that question…Why was I the enemy?

Then my realization became clearer.

I realized that they refuse to believe that most cops acknowledge that there are Bad cops who should have never been given a badge & gun, who are chicken shit and will shoot a cockroach if it crawls at them too fast, who never worked in the hood and may be intimidated. That most cops dread the thought of having to shoot someone, and never see the turmoil and mental anguish that a cop goes through after having to kill someone to save his own life. Instead they believe that we are all blood thirsty killers, because the media says so, even though the numbers prove otherwise. I realize that they truly feel as if the death of cops will help people realize the false narrative that Black Lives Matter, when all it will do is take their movement two steps backwards and label them domestic terrorist. I realized that some of these people, who say Black Lives Matter, are full of hate and racism. Hate for cops, because of the false narrative that more black people are targeted and killed. Racism against white people, for a tragedy that began 100’s of years ago, when most of the white people today weren’t even born yet. I realized that some in the African-American community’s idea of “Justice” is the prosecution of ANY and EVERY cop or white man that kills or is believed to have killed a black man, no matter what the circumstances are. I realized the African American community refuses to look within to solve its major issues, and instead makes excuses and looks outside for solutions. I realized that a lot of people in the African American lead with hate, instead of love. Division instead of Unity. Turmoil and rioting, instead of Peace. I realized that they have become the very entity that they claim they are fighting against.

I realized that the very reasons I became a cop, are the very reasons my own people hate me, and now in this toxic hateful racially charged political climate, I am now more likely to die,… and it is still hard for me to understand…. to this day.

Officer Jay Stalien

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realestatepup
realestatepup
July 20, 2016 9:07 am

Thank you for your insight and experience. I agree with the majority of your comments, of course, how could I not when you worked those streets?
But one major thing missing: the distinct, increasing militarization of police. This needs to be addressed. And fixed. Before it’s too late

Arnie Maestas
Arnie Maestas
July 20, 2016 9:08 am

Jay, thank you. Thank you for your courage to continue on in one of the toughest and most thankless jobs in our society today. Thank you for your courage to step aside from the mainstream media bullshit and boldly state that truly ALL lives matter. That is not a racist statement. It is a human statement. It is a spiritual statement. God bless brother.

Maggie
Maggie
July 20, 2016 9:10 am

I am so glad you gave this officer’s point of view a spot on TBP, Admin. His comments presented a new and unique way of looking at the issue of police vs. “us” and I discovered, happily, that an old lady like me can still modify my opinion.

I had been leaning toward the mantra that ‘if there are “good” cops who know about the “bad” cops, then how can they be “good”?’, but I’m not sure that my willingness to assume one or the other (good or bad) either exists or that they are aware of the other in a real sense is well grounded.

Perhaps they are all just trying to make sense of the world in which they live. Which is what we are all doing, isn’t it?

Credit
Credit
July 20, 2016 9:23 am

it is of course the work that was done over many decades that caused this culture. establishing separatist clubs, organizations, scholarships, tv channels, colleges, congressional caucuses, etc. exclusively for black people, validated racial division and set up a double standard opposing similar behavior by whites. how much more accepted it is to be a black racist than a white racist in this culture can be easily demonstrated by the overwhelming presence of groups for blacks only. this puts a black police officer on the side of whitey, cracker, white trash, white devils. shunning, they used to call it. all of this problem really boils down to collective thought by the black population instead of an emphasis on individuality and personal responsibility. it becomes easier to say “we” are oppressed than to cause your own individual outcome for life.

gammer
gammer
  Credit
July 21, 2016 9:43 am

You left out one of the most important root causes: Absent fathers!

indigentandindignant
indigentandindignant
July 20, 2016 9:39 am

My morning cop story:
So, the roads are empty this morning at 5am. I got work early. I’m late, driving 90. State cop pulls me over. Him”do you know why I stopped you this morning?” Me”yes. You want to give me a warning for driving to fast. Certainly you dont intend to write me a ticket because any ticket you wrote would punish me more than hillary recieved for commiting 6 felonies and violating national security. Surely my offense is not worse than violating national security”. Him”slow down, and have a safe day”. Yayyyyy. New respect for the stateys, and no ticket. Got there. Dug my trench. Waited. Fill trench. Get paid. Work day over. Any ticket would have cost multiples of what I got paid today.

Rise Up
Rise Up
  indigentandindignant
July 20, 2016 9:59 am

Never answer to “Do you know why I pulled you over?”. Your reply should be “No sir (or Mame).” Otherwise, you may be admitting to additional potential charges than the reason you were stopped.

Stucky
Stucky
  Rise Up
July 20, 2016 10:21 am

Told this true story once or twice before.

Briefly …. driving from Indiana to NJ back in 1981 (not even married yet) with a friend from work … his car … a new Firebird … he disconnected the odometer! … “how do I know how fast I’m going?”, I ask …… he says “to stay at the speed limit (55mph) keep at at 3000 rpm” …….. fucken lie!! …… it was almost 80mph. Soooooo, get pulled over in PA, naturally. I hand my paperwork to the cop. Here’s the abbreviated exchange, honestly.

Cop: “Do you know how fast you were driving?”

My “friend”: “NO. WHY DON’T YOU HUM A FEW BARS.”

I got a ticket. Luckily, nothing more than that. I did make him pay for it, although I got stuck with the points. When we got back to IN I ended our friendship.

indigentandindignant
indigentandindignant
  Stucky
July 20, 2016 12:32 pm

A friend of mine who is a pilot with only one arm, got pulled over doing 135 mph in his camaro. Cop asked him for his pilots licsense. He hands it to the cop. Cop asks whats this? He says, my pilots license. Cop laughed and sent him on his way.

Rise Up
Rise Up
July 20, 2016 10:00 am

Michael Savage said it best: “MY life matters!”

BUCKHED
BUCKHED
July 20, 2016 10:35 am

If the cop says ” Do you know why I pulled you over ” ? Respond with,” Well,If you don’t know and I don’t am free to go ” ?

Ouirphuqd
Ouirphuqd
July 20, 2016 10:36 am

A truly thankless job, even more so since our government has been compromised by full fledged communists. The fix is in to destroy America and all of western civilization. Things will be ramping up the rest of the year, the relinquishing of power has never been part of their tyrannical agenda!

Stucky
Stucky
July 20, 2016 10:37 am

” ……. the turmoil and mental anguish that a cop goes through after having to kill someone to save his own life.” ———- article

Yes, that’s what I see on cop’s faces in all those youtube videos ……. turmoil and mental anguish. lol What a crock of shit.

Nevertheless, based on the article and all the cop-luv comments so far, I think I’ll just go ahead and blow the first cop I see today.

You people kill me. 1. You all acknowledge the 4th Turning is a coming. 2. You all would probably agree it will be violent. 3. You would also agree that those fuksticks in power will do whatever necessary to stay in power. If all three premises are true, then when TSHTF, copfuks will be your worst enemy. Copfuks ALWAYS “protect” the status quo … those in power, not you. Always.

Will you then still write glowing reports of appreciation?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Stucky
July 20, 2016 1:56 pm

Grog says: (Anonymous was me, I forgot again.)
Stucky, sometimes your direct language is quite cogent if not eloquent.

Fuck the Funktionshäftling and their worshipers.

Stucky
Stucky
July 20, 2016 10:39 am

“His comments presented a new and unique way of looking at the issue of police vs. “us” and I discovered, happily, that an old lady like me can still modify my opinion.”
——— Maggie

Hey, old lady, you changed your opinion based on ONE article?

Damn … you’re easy.

Maggie
Maggie
  Stucky
July 20, 2016 11:08 am

No, you stubborn shithead! Many things fell into place to help me alter the way I’d come to see the police brutality issue lately. I might tell you that more and more, I’m realizing that my personal relationship with my Maker is giving me the ability to grasp insight into things that are beyond the ordinary STM’s capability. My friend, who is housing my son in a very nice area of Columbia, Maryland, has several connections to Baltimore police due to a previous marriage and lasting friendships. Over the course of the visit, I was able to actually talk about this issue with people on the ground during the recent events. I also had the unique opportunity to see a traffic cop on the ground near the National Mall have to confront someone acting in a suspicious manner* and realized just how dangerous their lives must be at all times while on duty. With the “open season” on cops having been declared and obviously taken to heart by some really angry people, I saw this officer’s simple statement as an excellent way to revisit the dialogue without having to try to explain to STMs like you why there might be another way to look at it.

In other words, blow me.

Maggie
Maggie
  Maggie
July 20, 2016 11:20 am

*someone acting in a suspicious manner — from above was me. My friend took a day off from work to haul me to the Holocaust museum. With her new car’s GPS a mystery to me, she continued to ask me to interpret the audio directions. I could see, at one point, the directions to continue through the light made NO SENSE, since a right turn would land us near the intersection we wanted to visit. After she made the hard right, her phone slid into the floor and it had been ringing with a message from her daughter. As soon as the cop approached the driver’s side door, I decided to unlock my seat belt and reach under the seat beneath me for my phone.

Immediately, I saw the police officer’s face blanch and he focused on my arm under the seat beneath me. I held both my hands out and explained that the phone had slid under the seat. Relieved, the nice man explained that a right turn at that point was illegal because of merging traffic lanes and did NOT give her a ticket. But, when we pulled away, my friend said “Did you see how frightened he got when you bent over to reach under the seat?”

I had. I realized that every single stop like that could present someone wanting to kill him randomly.

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Stucky
Stucky
July 20, 2016 11:49 am

“In other words, blow me.” ——– Maggie

Huh??

What???

What are you trying to tell us? Are you saying that you have the proper equipment for such a task? If so, please illuminate further. And, provide pictures.

Your stubborn shithead,
Stucky

Stucky
Stucky
July 20, 2016 11:55 am

Maggie

Your story above is all well and good. In fact … much to my chagrin, have I not posted about several incidents I have had with cops …. all of them good? Indeed!

So what.

Nevertheless, I hope you don’t lose sight of the fact that cops aren’t there to be your “friend”. Friends today become enemies tomorrow when the situation calls for it. That may not be obvious in a more-or-less peaceful society. It will become painfully obvious when TSHTF.

bb
bb
July 20, 2016 1:39 pm

The more I learn I am convinced much behavior is genetic .If you want to get a good idea of why blacks behave certain ways then read what the early European explorers of Africa saw first hand .A good place to start is .. Negroes in Negroland. There are many other first hand accounts of what was observed.You can Google this information. Cannibalism was just fore play.
The old segregationist were right. The Jim Crow laws were for our own protection .Race is real . Racial differences are real. It is not a social construction.

daddysteve
daddysteve
  bb
July 20, 2016 2:35 pm

Damn , where does one find a brush that big to paint with? I could knock out my house in a couple of minutes with that bad boy.

Grog
Grog
July 20, 2016 2:26 pm

Police:
A police force is a constituted body of persons empowered by the STATE.

Cop:
Possibly from Middle French caper ‎(“to capture”), from Latin capere ‎(“to seize, to grasp”); or possibly from Dutch kapen ‎(“to seize, to hijack”).

Their powers include the “legitimized” use of force. The term is most commonly associated with police services of a sovereign STATE that are authorized to exercise the police power of that STATE within a defined legal or territorial area (imaginary lines, and legalities can be changed at a whim) of responsibility.

Gee, I wonder where their allegiance is?

Stucky
Stucky
  Grog
July 20, 2016 2:51 pm

From a cop website

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Several different stories have evolved over the slang term, Cop …. take your pick;

1— Cop – In early America and in Great Britain, under common law a local constable, appointed by a magistrate or judge, would walk a beat (see previous postings for the root of the word beat). This was later abbreviated to be Constable On Patrol.

2— Copper – the first English speaking police force, Peelers, in Great Britian, had very large copper helmets

3— Cop – a variation of the Latin word capere when means to grab or frisk. The word was shortened to cap, then finally cop, such as ‘cop an attitude’. Was used by the british citizens because the police were always copping a felon.

4— Copper – the color of the shields/bages worn by early NYPD officers.

5— Copper- the color of the early police or sheriff cars in the western states.

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The general consensus is that Door #3 is the correct answer.

kokoda
kokoda
  Stucky
July 20, 2016 4:47 pm

Door # 2

Maggie
Maggie
July 20, 2016 2:51 pm

Stucky, according to new social norms, I do not need the proper “equipment” in order to legitimately demand you “blow me.” If I think I have the necessary gender traits required to be “blown” then you have to respect my self-image in order to avoid being any of the “IST” labels we are currently trying to avoid.

As for the cop, I’m still absolutely positive there are “bad cops.” I am just not so willing to say that “good cops” must be ignoring the bad ones. Perhaps there is more of an obstacle to turning one’s fellow police officer in than a stubborn ass like YOU might be willing to admit.

But, I do indeed like this letter by “Officer Jay Stalien” (and am glad Admin chose to give this letter a public reading.) It might not have changed my mind on its own merit, but along with the other police-related experiences I’ve been collecting, it would have always been a heavy piece of evidence.

As for the implication that cops are not our friends? I agree, but since their job is defined by their willingness to “protect and to serve” it makes sense that at least some, albeit rare, cops really do believe that is their mission. And that means that while they are indeed potentially friends.

With all due respect to the King Flinger!

Maggie
Maggie
July 20, 2016 2:53 pm

Stucky, according to new social norms, I do not need the proper “equipment” in order to legitimately demand you “blow me.” If I think I have the necessary gender traits required to be “blown” then you have to respect my self-image in order to avoid being any of the “IST” labels we are currently trying to avoid.

As for the cop, I’m still absolutely positive there are “bad cops.” I am just not so willing to say that “good cops” must be ignoring the bad ones. Perhaps there is more of an obstacle to turning one’s fellow police officer in than a stubborn ass like YOU might be willing to admit.

But, I do indeed like this letter by “Officer Jay Stalien” (and am glad Admin chose to give this letter a public reading.) It might not have changed my mind on its own merit, but along with the other police-related experiences I’ve been collecting, it would have always been a heavy piece of evidence.

As for the implication that cops are not our friends? I agree, but since their job is defined by their willingness to “protect and to serve” it makes sense that at least some, albeit rare, cops really do believe that is their mission. And that means that they are indeed potentially friends.

With all due respect to the King Flinger!

Stucky
Stucky
July 20, 2016 3:02 pm

Well, Maggie, in that case I’d be more than happy to provide the oral stimulation of your nether regions. I do love you, ya know.

True story, I have not shared before. It is one of my earliest childhood memories. I will try to be as brief as possible.

I was about 5 years old ….. when there was a knock on the door … mom looked from the window …. and then we HID UNDER the kitchen table …. she was scared, so I was scared …. really ….. then the man left, never to return ….. that “man” I later found out was a cop …… of course, we never knew why he was there …. perhaps just a beat-cop making house visits, something they actually still did in Belleville NJ in the mid-1950s.

Why was mom afraid when she did NOTHING wrong? To mom cops = bad shit …. that’s how it was under Nazi and Russian occupation. Cops served those in power, and those in power usually had bad intentions towards the peons.

We often are a product of our environment, aren’t we?

Maggie
Maggie
  Stucky
July 20, 2016 4:53 pm

But we can overcome it when and if we recognize it as an obstacle.

Hopefully, I copied the correct photo link and will seem clever. Otherwise, perhaps I will get lucky and be able to edit the link before anyone sees I am most definitely NOT clever.
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Edit: Hahahaha… it was NOT the one I wanted, but I like it. I can be the smile flinging monkey!

larry morris
larry morris
  Maggie
July 20, 2016 6:01 pm

VERY COOL

anarchyst
anarchyst
July 20, 2016 5:13 pm

Here are changes that can help reduce police-induced violence:
1. Get rid of police unions. Police unions (fraternities) protect the guilty, and are responsible for the massive whitewashing of questionable police behavior that is presently being committed.
2. Eliminate both “absolute” and “qualified” immunity for all public officials. This includes, prosecutors and judges, police and firefighters, code enforcement and child protective services officials, and others who deal with the citizenry. The threat of being sued personally would encourage them to behave themselves. Require police officers to be “bonded” by an insurance company, with their own funds. No bond= no job.
3. Any public funds disbursed to citizens as a result of police misconduct should come out of police pension funds–NOT from the taxpayers.
4. Regular drug-testing of police officers as well as incident-based drug testing should take place whenever an officer is involved in a violent situation with a citizen–no exceptions.
5. Testing for steroid use should be a part of the drug testing program. You know damn well, many police officers “bulk up” with the “help” of steroids. Steroids also affect users mentally as well, making them more aggressive. The potential for abuse of citizens increases greatly with steroid use.
6. Internal affairs should only be used for disagreements between individual officers–NOT for investigations involving citizen abuse. State-level investigations should be mandatory for all suspected abuses involving citizens.
7. Prosecutors should be charged with malfeasance IF any evidence implicating police officer misconduct is not presented to the grand jury.
8. A national or state-by-state database of abusive individuals who should NEVER be allowed to perform police work should be established–a “blacklist” of abusive (former) police officers.
9. Most people are unaware that police have special “rules” that prohibit them from being questioned for 48 hours. This allows them to “get their stories straight” and makes it easier to “cover up” bad police behavior. Police must be subject to the same laws as civilians.
10. All police should be required to wear bodycams and utilize dashcams that cannot be turned off. Any police officers who causes a dash or body cam to be turned off should be summarily fired–no excuses. Today’s body and dash cams are reliable enough to withstand harsh treatment. Body and dashcam footage should be uploaded to a public channel “on the cloud” for public perusal.
11. All interrogations must be video and audio recorded. Police should be prohibited from lying or fabricating stories in order to get suspects to confess. False confessions ARE a problem in many departments. Unknown to most people, police can lie with impunity while civilians can be charged with lying to police…fair? I think not…
12. Any legislation passed that restricts the rights of ordinary citizens, such as firearms magazine capacity limits, types of weapons allowed, or restrictive concealed-carry laws should apply equally to police. No special exemptions to be given to police. Laws must be equally applied.
Police work is not inherently dangerous…there are many other professions that are much more dangerous.
A little “Andy Taylor” could go a long way in allaying fears that citizens have of police.
That being said, I have no problem with police officers who do their job in a fair, conscientious manner…however, it is time to call to task those police officers who only “protect and serve” themselves.

kokoda
kokoda
  anarchyst
July 20, 2016 5:27 pm

Count Me In.
Great Job anarchyst

Grog
Grog
  anarchyst
July 20, 2016 6:24 pm

Or, there is something that is really simple that could be accomplished…
Ready?
Get rid of cops/police,,, by what ever name.
Do people really think these people have your interests at heart?????
If so, I should have been a stock broker.

larry morris
larry morris
July 20, 2016 6:06 pm

THERE ARE GOOD AND BAD IN EVERY THING WITH COPS THEY HAVE TO BE CARE FULL THEY DONT LOSE THERE REASON FOR BEING A COP JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE A BADGE DOES NOT MEAN YOU NOW ARE THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD

Maggie
Maggie
July 22, 2016 12:35 am

I think there is a limited response to this because the image of this policeman created by the photo and the heartfelt devotion to service conveyed by his words do not fit the image of a cop in our minds. We find him to be the “exception” rather than the rule and discard the letter as evidence.

It is amazing what tricks our own minds play on us.