Trump vs. Hillary: A Summation

Guest Post by Paul Craig Roberts

Note: I just heard a NPR report that young people were deserting the Republican Party, had turned leftwing and were flocking to Hillary. So now in America the leftwing candidate is a warmonger and agent of Wall Street! Amazing.

The US presidential election this November will tell whether a majority of the US population is irredeemably stupid. If voters elect Hillary, we will know that Americans are stupid beyond redemption.

We don’t know much about Trump, and anti-Trump propaganda rules in the place of facts.

But we know many facts about Hillary. We know about her violation of classification laws and the refusal of the Democratic administration to do anything about it. The Democrats prefer to control the White House than to enforce the law, another nail in the coffin in which the rule of law in the US lies.

We know from their words and deeds and material success that the Clintons are agents for Wall Street, the Big Banks, the military/security complex, Israel, agribusiness, and the extractive industries. Their large personal fortune, approximately $120 million, and the $1,600 million in their foundation, much of which came from abroad in exchange for political favors, attests to the unchallengable fact that the Clintons are agents for the oligarchy that rules America, indeed, that rules the American Empire from Australia and Japan, through North America and Western and Eastern Europe to the Russian border.

We know that Hillary, like Bill, is a liar.

We know that Hillary is a warmonger.

We know that Hillary made the most irresponsible statement ever uttered by a presidential candidate when she declared the President of Russia to be the “new Hitler,” thereby raising tensions between the nuclear powers to a higher level than existed during the Cold War.

We know that Hillary is allied with the neoconservatives and that her belief in the neocons’ ideology of US world hegemony is likely to result in war with Russia and China.

All we know about Trump is that the oligarchs, who sent America’s jobs overseas, who flooded the country with difficult-to-assimilate immigrants, who destroyed public education, who bailed out Wall Street and the “banks too big to fail,” who sacrificed American homeowners and retirees living on a fixed income, who intend to privatize both Social Security and Medicare, who have given the public killer cops, relentless violations of privacy, the largest prison poplulation in the world, and destroyed the US Constitution in order to increase executive power over the American people, are violently opposed to Trump. This opposition should tell us that Trump is the person we want in the Oval Office.

Some claim that it is all a charade and that Trump is playing a role in order to elect Hillary. American politics are so corrupt that anything is possible. However the ruling elites and their puppets seem to be genuinely concerned about Trump’s challenge to their control, and they have united against Trump. They have used their money to buy up “progressive” websites paid to bring the print and TV anti-Trump propaganda onto the Internet, thus joining the Internet presstitutes with the print, TV, and NPR whores who are working overtime to demonize Trump and to elect Hillary.

The entire power structure of our country is behind Hillary. Both Democratic and Republican political establishments and both ideologies, neoliberals and neoconservatives, are united behind Hillary.

How much more evidence do Americans need in order to know that a vote for Hillary is a vote for their own emasculation?

Apparently, Americans remain captives of their insouciance. According to news reports, a majority of voters still haven’t a clue about the consequences of voting for Hillary. Polls report that Hillary is well in the lead. Are these real polls or just another presstitute lie to discourage Trump supporters? Why vote when they have already lost?

The propaganda assault against Trump, vicious as it was, did not succeed during the Republican primary. Despite the media condemnation of Trump, he swept the other Republican candidates aside effortlessly.

The current media demonization of Trump might fail as well. Indeed, it is so transparent that it could elect him.

All that is required is for enough Americans to awake from their insouciance to recognize that it is the enemies of their own lives, their own living standards, and their own liberty who are violently opposed to Trump.

If Americans cannot reach this realization, they have no future, and neither does the planet Earth.

The ruling oligarchy hates Trump because he disavows war with Russia, questions the purpose of NATO, opposes the offshoring of Americans’ jobs, and opposes the uncontrolled immigration that is transforming the United States into a multi-cultural entity devoid of unity. The oligarchs are replacing the United States with a Tower of Babel. Oligarchic power grows exponentially among the disunity of diversity.

In other words, Trump is for America and for Americans.

This is why the oligarchs and their whores hate Trump.

The imbecillic Americans who vote for Hillary are voting for war and their own immiseration.

Possibly, a vote for Trump is the same. However, in the case of Trump we do not know that. In the case of Hillary we most certainly do know it.

Of course, it could matter not how Americans vote. Those who program the electronic voting machines will determine the vote, and as the establishments of both political parties totally oppose Trump, the programmed machines can elect Hillary. We know this from our electoral history. The US has already experienced elections in which exit polls show a winning candidate different from the candidate selected by the electronic machines that have no paper trail and no way of affirming the vote.

If Hillary gets into the Oval Office, nuclear war is likely before her first term is over. A vote for Hillary is a vote for nuclear war.

If you look at the forthcoming election realistically, you have no alternative but to conclude that the entirety of the presstitute media and American Establishment prefers the risk of nuclear war to the risk of losing control of the government to the voters.

That Americans permitted the rise of unaccountable power tells us all we need to know about the dereliction of duty of which United States citizens are guilty. The American people failed democracy, which requires accountable government. The American government has proven that it is not accountable to the US Constitution, to US statutory law, to international law, or to voters.

If the result of Americans’ dereliction of duty is nuclear war, the American people will be responsible for the death of planet Earth. One would hope that with responsibility this great on their shoulders, the American people will reject the unequivocal war candidate and take their chances on holding Trump accountable to his words.


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DaBirds
DaBirds
August 26, 2016 7:52 am

I have espoused the same thought to many. I know what Hillary is and I am willing to take the chance on Trump. Sadly, I fear the fix is in…

MsLiberty
MsLiberty
August 26, 2016 8:04 am

OK, Mr. Paul, a lot of good points in here, but here’s a counterpoint. Taking a look at the platform that the Donald published on his website and running it through the Constitutional filter, we find that nearly all of it doesn’t pass. And Hillary Clinton’s? Don’t even get me started. So, the two main party candidates are not Constitutional. I thought the idea was that a big part of USA’s problems is a government that refuses to follow its own constitution that it was sworn to uphold, and we’re arguing about brand x or brand y, neither of which are qualified? Apparently, neither one can give the job description of the office they’re running for. And it’s an open book question, just look at article 2, that is, assuming that constitution is actually still in force. Is it? I often have very strong doubts.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  MsLiberty
August 26, 2016 9:12 am

“Nearly all” really doesn’t mean much of anything and is a simple personal opinion.

How about narrowly defined specifics, stating precisely what and why, They can be discussed whereas “nearly all” can’t.

Politicians and leftists avoid definable specifics the way vampires avoid holy water, let’s try to change that. Defining a problem is the only way to address a solution to it. The shotgun approach to a solution tends to take out everything in its path as well and create many new additional problems.

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
  MsLiberty
August 26, 2016 10:11 am

MsLiberty

Please share what you have seen on Trump’s website that does not pass as you put it and also how is Trump not constitutional? (sarc off)

starfcker
starfcker
August 26, 2016 8:40 am

Yeah msliberty dumbass, that’s a pretty broad statement, with zero to back it up. Back to Salon with you.

Rise Up
Rise Up
August 26, 2016 9:15 am

Nothing NPR reports is worth 2 farts in a perfume parlor.

But PCR gets it right with this article, especially here:

“…Trump is for America and for Americans.

This is why the oligarchs and their whores hate Trump.”

Big Dick
Big Dick
August 26, 2016 10:25 am

Sadly another commentary on the evil versus the unknown. Todays cyber world leads us to two real conclusions. First money talks and it can buy whatever the holder wants. Second Americans have been manipulated and dumbed down so much that they still believe in the system. Thus those that have will continue to control and get, and those that don’t will continue to bend over and get screwed. The election outcome is already planned, bought, and paid for, just waiting for implementation.

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
August 26, 2016 10:29 am

Riser

If Trump is for America and Americans then why does he hire foreign workers. All of the guy’s clothing line was made in Chinese or Pacific rim sweat shops AND he hired 90% foreign and third worlders to work in his MaraLargo Resort/Club. There were hundreds of American applicants yet he hired only 10% American.

Anyone can say they are for America, deeds prove how sincere they really are. Can you give real examples of Trump taking the hit on his bottom line to give Americans jobs over imported labor? Ivanka is a chip off the old block, DON’T YOU THINK DAD should have said to her HIRE SOME MERICANS?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/ivanka-trumps-best-selling-fashion-line-is-manufactured-in-china-and-vietnam-a7153376.html

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
  Bea Lever
August 26, 2016 10:43 am

Seriously it really chaps my ass that these people blather on and on about “Make America great again” while RIGHT NOW at this very minute they use foreign sweat shop labor and foreign workers here in lieu of Americans.

Donald and Ivanka Trump should set the example and be able to stand up and say EVERY piece of clothing we produce is made in America, fuck this shit!!!

Annie
Annie
  Bea Lever
August 26, 2016 4:29 pm

My guess is that it’s a Catch 22. Because of the current system Trump can’t make a decent amount of money without offshoring. Without a decent amount of money Trump couldn’t become president. He wants to become president so that he can change things so that people can make a decent amount of money without offshoring. But that means that he has to offshore and some people won’t vote for him because he’s making money by offshoring.

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
  Annie
August 26, 2016 7:46 pm

Annie

A clothing item that costs someone like trump 5 or 6 dollars to manufacture will be sold for more than 100 dollars so I think the we are just looking at pure greed not to employ Americans. Do you have something to back up your theory that he MUST offshore to make a profit?

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
August 26, 2016 10:44 am

Put your money where your mouth is Donald and Ivanka, fucking frauds.

Filomeno Reyes aka Full Retard, formerly known as Elpidio Corona aka El Coyote
Filomeno Reyes aka Full Retard, formerly known as Elpidio Corona aka El Coyote
August 26, 2016 11:23 am

I wish Mike in PA would post a QOTD that turns Reagan’s question around:

Will you be better off 4 years from now if Trump wins? In what way(s)?

Anonymous
Anonymous

And maybe the same about Hillary?

As for me, I will be better off with Trump since I will have at least had some small amount of my views represented in government action again, something that hasn’t been true for so long I can’t remember when it last was.

Everything else is expecting some sort of psychic powers, predicting the future as such.

Filomeno Reyes aka Full Retard, formerly known as Elpidio Corona aka El Coyote
Filomeno Reyes aka Full Retard, formerly known as Elpidio Corona aka El Coyote
  Anonymous
August 26, 2016 1:27 pm

It seems like this article has already covered that topic very nicely.
I just wanted to get readers to consult their crystal balls.
Perhaps we can look back and compare notes in 4 years or even 2 years.

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
August 26, 2016 11:38 am

FR-FR-EC-EC

I don’t know if we will be better off if the Donald is elected but in four years we will all have snappy clothes with the Trump label (made in China), beautiful home decor with the Trump Home label (made in China), Special edition Trump car (made in Mexico) etc.etc.etc. right down to our fukkin Trump toothpaste with which we brush our teeth.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Bea Lever
August 26, 2016 11:47 am

You’re apparently looking for a Messiah, I’m looking for a President that’s on the same side I’m on.

I at least have the chance of finding what I’m looking for, you have no chance of finding what you are.

nkit
nkit
  Bea Lever
August 26, 2016 12:39 pm

Trump toothpaste is very effective for removing oxidation from your headlights. Just sayin…..

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
  nkit
August 26, 2016 12:55 pm

nkit- Maybe Trump toothpaste helps the Donald “talk the talk”, but those Trump label shoes don’t help him “walk the walk”.

How does a guy worth his salt stand up and preach bring jobs back to America while he is PART OF THE FUCKING PROBLEM? Nobody forced the Trumps to manufacture outside of the US, now did they? They are STILL doing it ……are you brain dead?

EDIT- Not fair to leave out the beautiful Melania Trump, her jewelry and timepiece collection is (wait for it ) made in China.

nkit
nkit
  Bea Lever
August 26, 2016 1:22 pm

No, I am not brain dead, Bea…..Note to self…don’t make jokes to Bea anymore FFS

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
  nkit
August 26, 2016 1:29 pm

Sorry, nkit………

nkit
nkit
  Bea Lever
August 26, 2016 1:58 pm

No problem, Bea. no grudges here..

Filomeno Reyes aka Full Retard, formerly known as Elpidio Corona aka El Coyote
Filomeno Reyes aka Full Retard, formerly known as Elpidio Corona aka El Coyote
  Bea Lever
August 26, 2016 1:30 pm

Trump toothpaste would taste like You Cunt’s cootchie.

larry morris
larry morris
August 26, 2016 12:28 pm

yes vote for hillary, you dumb ass shits she really cares about you a chicken in every pot and new car in your drive and all payed for by gov’t.

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
  larry morris
August 26, 2016 12:48 pm

Larry- Nobody here would vote for the Hillcunt, STFU.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Bea Lever
August 26, 2016 5:49 pm

But if you don’t vote for Trump you are failing to oppose her, which is effectively lending her your support even if you don’t actually cast your vote for her.

Rise Up
Rise Up
August 26, 2016 1:22 pm

Bea, all you do is trash talk and aren’t for either candidate. So why don’t YOU just shut the fuck up? Are you trying to convince someone of something? If you are, you are failing, so give it up.

Filomeno Reyes aka Full Retard, formerly known as Elpidio Corona aka El Coyote
Filomeno Reyes aka Full Retard, formerly known as Elpidio Corona aka El Coyote
  Rise Up
August 26, 2016 1:35 pm

Riser, I actually liked when Bea stuffed crazy Larry’s bullshit back down his throat.
This ain’t no liberal site or whatever nasty site old Larry usually hangs out at.
I guess your perfectly fine to let any dick-sucking douchebag like Larry come in here and talk trash.

Rise Up
Rise Up

Keep guessing, EC.

Filomeno Reyes aka Full Retard, formerly known as Elpidio Corona aka El Coyote
Filomeno Reyes aka Full Retard, formerly known as Elpidio Corona aka El Coyote
  Rise Up
August 26, 2016 3:34 pm

I know better, I just wanted to mess with crazy Larry. I hope he comes back for the noobie ass-kicking party.

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
August 26, 2016 2:02 pm

Riser- I keep telling you I want a puppet we can believe in not the dregs they are throwing at us………..Trump and Clinton are NOT the best we can do. Demand more from the owners and we just might get a more upstanding criminal puppet.

Rise Up
Rise Up
  Bea Lever
August 26, 2016 3:33 pm

Bea, I grant you that neither is the “best we can do”, but given this choice, it’s ABC (Anyone But Clinton).

Good luck demanding more from our owners.

DaBirds
DaBirds
August 26, 2016 2:20 pm

“Laugh about it, shout about it, when it’s time to choose, either way you look at it you lose.”

Who will we lose least with?

As I said before I know what the Hope hillbilly brings to the table and the last thing this country needs is her picks for possibly three SCOTUS positions. Never mind the wars she’ll pursue.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  DaBirds
August 26, 2016 5:54 pm

That three SCOTUS positions could actually run into five positions if she were to survive her first term and serve at least part of a second.

This election if far more about the fundamental direction of our country than it is the candidates themselves, they present two very different probable future directions for ourselves and generations to come.

Tucci78
Tucci78
August 26, 2016 4:26 pm

How much more evidence do Americans need in order to know that a vote for Hillary is a vote for their own emasculation?

Wrong. The precise word is “disembowelment.”

Filomeno Reyes aka Full Retard, formerly known as Elpidio Corona aka El Coyote
Filomeno Reyes aka Full Retard, formerly known as Elpidio Corona aka El Coyote
  Tucci78
August 26, 2016 5:23 pm

Wrong. The precise word is “sodomized with a black chorizo.”

Tucci78
Tucci78

Wrong. The precise word is “sodomized with a black chorizo.”

Hitlery with a strap-on?

Filomeno Reyes aka Full Retard, formerly known as Elpidio Corona aka El Coyote
Filomeno Reyes aka Full Retard, formerly known as Elpidio Corona aka El Coyote
August 26, 2016 5:58 pm

If you feel a colostomy bag slapping your ass, then yes.

TE
TE
August 26, 2016 6:37 pm

I love the NPR statement!

So they claim “young” Republicans are leaving the party.

How many youthful repukes do you know?

The VAST majority of under 25 year olds I ever known identified with the demoncrats. By 30, most that remained my friends had followed their paychecks to the repukes.

Jokes on us all, both sides screwed us.

The single most amusing thing about this version of Kabuki theater is that I now hear the Trump supporters sounding exactly like Obama’s did eight years ago.

Now, as then, I remind myself that hope cannot be reasoned with, nor stopped. No matter how misplaced it may be.

Ah well, so it goes. No matter who “wins” the reality is they are going to be in a world of shit and blamed.

What? You actually think the lies and obfuscation about our economy are solely to make the Great and Powerful O look better?

All the establishment/actual controllers are going to have to do to destroy the next Pres is to let some truth come out.

Obama will end on a great big (statistically created) win, next guy is going to be hung out with any slight return of truth.

Just like Pres Clinton is still gifted credit for the temporary Y2K/dotcom economy. Hell, he’s the one that offshored the nation, NOBODY, repukes included, hold him responsible because all the bad stuff happened this century.

Same thing is going to happen again.

At least life is incredibly interesting, no?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  TE
August 26, 2016 6:57 pm

Isn’t that an old Chinese curse?
“May you have an interesting life.”

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
  TE
August 26, 2016 7:09 pm

The well respected and most honorable TE said:
“The single most amusing thing about this version of Kabuki theater is that I now hear the Trump supporters sounding exactly like Obama’s did eight years ago.”

LOL! I’ve been saying the same thing on TBP for months. I’m as confident about tRump as I was about Obammy. I will admit that this time I hope the slobbering tRumpeteers are right.

O’ Lawd, one moes vote and avry ting gon be rite wif da whirled!

The only thing “one more vote” will do is bring the owners closer to achieving their nirvana.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
  TE
August 26, 2016 8:00 pm

Bravo TE……bravo.

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
August 26, 2016 7:33 pm

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David
David
August 26, 2016 9:09 pm

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

You can bank on Hillary picking justices who believe that there should be no restraint on government power. That and a continuation on our path to insolvency and disaster. Probably on that path no matter what but at least take a chance.

frank
frank
August 26, 2016 11:03 pm

Paul Craig Roberts=Irredeemably Stupid
How the hell did we allow the ptb to take control of the country. They took it, no one ever asked us and we were powerless to stop it. Saying we allowed them to come to power is akin to asking the ten year old girl in Albuquerque that was drugged, raped, butchered, then wrapped in a blanket and burned by her own guardians last night, “Well kid, how did you allow this to happen?” You are a disgrace. And an overpaid disgrace at that. Please go into the forest and eat all the mushrooms you can find. None of them are poisonous. Honest!