The Oompa Loompa Man

by Uncola

In a nationalized chocolate factory founded by a mysterious, enigmatic zeitgeist taking the form of Gene Wilder’s ghost, immigrated by naughty kids and feeding the fat, obnoxious ones their saccharine sweet poison; there rises an orange Oompa Loompa man frightening the children. The man has applied for a new position in the factory that happens to be nothing less than to become its new president and Chief Executive Officer. If the collective Charlie Buckets, Alt-Right Oompa Loompa’s and the other likeminded children in the factory give their winning tickets to the orange man, the man will become president. However, if this happens, the kids currently in the established positions of authority at the factory are afraid the man will look to them and say: “YOU’RE FIRED!”

Even though the political Charlies, Alt-Right Oompa’s and others may, indeed, have some questions of their own regarding the Orange Oompa Loompa man, they fear and despise the man’s opponent more: The Wicked Witch of the East. Furthermore, the man speaks directly and honestly regarding the specific problems currently manifesting in the factory and this causes the witch to continually shriek: “He’s a divisive misogynistic, xenophobic, bully! I’m melting! I’m melting!” But that’s another story entirely.

So who is this bombastic, bloviating, billionaire Oompa Loompa man?

Born on June 14, 1946 to parents living in the New York City Queens neighborhood known as Jamaica Estates, he is today known as one of the world’s wealthiest billionaires. He is the chairman of the Trump Organization, a multinational business consortium with holdings in real estate, hotels, casinos, resorts and golf courses. As an eponymous and privately held international brand, the organization also operates in various other forms of corporate commerce including: construction, hospitality, entertainment, publishing, media, model management, retail, financial services, board game development, food and beverages, business education, online travel, airlines, helicopter air services, beauty pageants, fashion apparel, jewelry and accessories, home furnishing, lighting products, bath textiles and accessories, bedding, home fragrance products, leather goods, barware, steaks, wine, bottled spring water and chocolate bars.

In addition, the man has authored, or coauthored, 16 books published via his own publishing company and he owns a television company based in New York that produces several television programs including his own reality based TV shows entitled the Apprentice and the Celebrity Apprentice. Both of these shows, in combination, have run a consecutive 14 seasons on the NBC network since January of 2004.

How did the man become so successful? Well, it all started in 1906 when the man’s grandfather moved to the New York City borough of Queens and began a career in real estate. In 1918, the man’s grandfather died from the flu and left an estate valued at $31,359, or $492,016 in 2016 dollars. The man’s grandmother then resurrected the family business under the name of Elizabeth Trump & Son in 1923 with her son Fred, the man’s father, who was just 18 years old at the time.

From 1927 to 1932, Elizabeth and Fred Trump built more than 300 residential homes in Queens, then moved on to build many other homes in Brooklyn with the assistance of financing obtained from the newly established Federal Housing Administration. From 1949 through 1965, Elizabeth Trump & Son built 1,300, 2,000 and 4,600 unit apartment complexes in Brooklyn, Beach Haven and Coney Island. The projects continued until Fred Trump was accused of misappropriating state funds. His reputation suffered and he soon he was unable acquire funding for further projects beyond 1965. In addition, according Fred Trump’s Wikipedia page, he had a 1927 Klu Klux Klan riot arrest because, after all, Wikipedia would not want us to forget about that.

Enter the Oompa Loompa man. Upon graduating the New York Military Academy followed by Fordham University, he then joined Elizabeth Trump & Son in 1968, while attending the Wharton School at the University of Pennsylvania. In 1971, he became president and later renamed the company The Trump Organization in 1974. In the early 1970’s the value of the Trump Empire was claimed to be $200 million by Fred Trump and between $40 to $100 million by other sources. In today’s dollars this would translate between $200 million to $1 billion. On another side note: In 1973, the U.S. Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division filed a civil rights suit against the Trump organization claiming that it refused to rent to black people.

Regardless, over the next two decades, the Trump Organization experienced exponential growth under the leadership of the orange, Oompa Loompa man. By 2003, the empire was valued at $8.5 billion and in the spring of 2016, the man claimed his net worth to be over $10 billion. Nevertheless, the man’s seemingly meteoric rise was not without its set-backs. Because the Trump Organization is a privately held company they are not required to reveal financial information. This makes it difficult to determine its exact overall value, but this did not stop the highly leveraged empire from imploding in 1990 when the U.S. economy fell into the recession.

According to Forbes magazine, the man was the nation’s 19th richest person in 1989 with a net worth of $1.7 billion. In just two short years, he became known as the world’s poorest man with a net worth valued at a negative $960 million. During this time the man entered into a bailout agreement allowing him to defer almost $1 billion in bank debt, but required him to make certain payments on more than $1 billion in additional bank debt. In return for being released from his personal guarantee on about $960 million of debt, the man was forced to relinquish ownership on several of his properties.

Nevertheless, within ten years the man had managed to completely place his prior financial problems into the proverbial rear view mirror.   By the early the 2000’s the man claimed to have reacquired at least 50 percent of all the New York buildings with the Trump moniker and Time magazine, on April 12, 2004, acknowledged that the Trump logo added some $100 per square foot to the value of a building. In spite of the man’s comeback, there still remains controversy today regarding his past business dealings. On June 6, 2016 the New York Times reported the following:

“After narrowly escaping financial ruin in the early 1990s by delaying payments on his debts, Mr. Trump avoided a second potential crisis by taking his casinos public and shifting the risk to stockholders. And he never was able to draw in enough gamblers to support all of the borrowing. During a decade when other casinos here thrived, Mr. Trump’s lagged, posting huge losses year after year. Stock and bondholders lost more than $1.5 billion. All the while, Mr. Trump received copious amounts for himself, with the help of a compliant board. In one instance, The Times found, Mr. Trump pulled more than $1 million from his failing public company, describing the transaction in securities filings in ways that may have been illegal, according to legal experts.”

Although there are many in Atlantic City who recall with fondness the man’s chutzpah, flamboyance and the tax revenues he generated; others like Steven P. Perskie, who was New Jersey’s top casino regulator in the early 1990s, claim the man “put a number of local contractors and suppliers out of business when he didn’t pay them.”

So, is the Oompa Loompa man merely shrewd at business? Or, is he a greedy, money lusting empty suit full of pretentious pomposity and hot air? Or, perhaps most importantly, is he too cold-hearted to run a chocolate factory on behalf of the children? On the one hand he claims to love the factory and only wants to make it great again. On the other, he wants to build a wall around the factory and force the less fortunate, foreign kids to check in through the front door only. According many, the man brags about his successes while minimizing his failures and he utilizes legal loopholes to his advantage. Moreover, others claim he speaks his mind too extemporaneously and many more find his personality to be immature, brash and offensive. He has also been known to speak derogatively of women.

In spite of all this, he announced his presidential run on June 16, 2015. According to a Wikipedia page solely dedicated to his campaign, we learn about his:

“populist positions in opposition to illegal immigration and various free trade agreements such as his opposition to the Trans-Pacific Partnership have earned him support especially among white blue-collar voters and voters without college degrees. Many of his remarks have been controversial and have helped his campaign garner extensive coverage by the mainstream media, trending topics, and social media.”

And, how he:

“has been endorsed by various white nationalist and white supremacist movements and leaders.”

Those who oppose the man’s campaign claim his supporters “are angry, and anger is infectious” and that “we need the kind of leader that seeks to bring us together, not tear us apart.” In fact, there are entire articles posted online on how to talk your friends and loved ones out of supporting the man and if this doesn’t work, some of his opponents are even enlisting the help of cult deprogrammers in order to change the minds of the misguided children, Alt-Right Oompas and others who currently believe and trust in the man enough to give them their golden tickets.

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So WHO do we believe? WHAT do we believe? Perhaps the only way to truly judge the man is to look to those who know the man best. Based upon what we saw during the 2016 Republican Convention and from what we read in the newspapers and online, it is obvious the man’s entire family remains 100% behind him. Even his divorced wives still respect and support him including one ex-wife who claims the man gave her the best sex she ever had.

But what about others who knew the man?

In an article published in the New Yorker Magazine on July 27, 2016, Tony Schwartz, the man’s co-author of the 1987 bestselling book, “The Art of the Deal”, recalls the times he spent with the man during the mid-nineteen eighties.

In 1985, Mr. Schwartz published a piece in New York about the man which:

“portrayed him not as a brilliant mogul but as a ham-fisted thug who had unsuccessfully tried to evict rent-controlled and rent-stabilized tenants from a building that he had bought on Central Park South.”

To Schwartz’s amazement, the man “loved the article” and even “hung the cover on a wall of his office” and this is how Schwartz become the ghostwriter for “The Art of the Deal”, which according to New Yorker Magazine, made America see the man “as a charmer with an unfailing knack for business.” Yet, Edward Kosner, the former editor and publisher of New York, where Schwartz worked as a writer at the time, says Schwartz “created” the man and, therefore, he (Schwartz) “is Dr. Frankenstein.”

In summary, Tony Schwartz’s main claims against the man are paraphrased as follows:

“he (the man) is pathologically impulsive and self-centered. He has no attention span. His inability to concentrate is alarming in a Presidential candidate. If he had to be briefed on a crisis in the Situation Room, it’s impossible to imagine him paying attention over a long period of time. He exhibits a stunning level of superficial knowledge and plain ignorance and this is why he so prefers TV as his first news source—information comes in easily digestible sound bites and I seriously doubt that he has ever read a book straight through in his adult life. He plays people and on the phone with business associates, he would flatter, bully, and occasionally get mad, but always in a calculated way and before the discussion ended he would share the news of his latest success. Lying is second nature to him and he has the ability to convince himself that whatever he is saying at any given moment is true, or sort of true, or at least ought to be true and that his is also full of gaudy, tacky, gigantic obsessions with an absolute lack of interest in anything beyond power and money.”

Conversely, here is what the man had to say regarding what he views as a betrayal by Tony Schwartz:

He’s probably just doing it for the publicity. That’s great disloyalty, because I made Tony rich. He owes a lot to me. I helped him when he didn’t have two cents in his pocket. It’s great disloyalty. I guess he thinks it’s good for him—but he’ll find out it’s not good for him.”

Furthermore, the man soon told Mr. Schwartz the following in a phone call:

I hear you’re not voting for me,” Trump said. “I just talked to The New Yorker—which, by the way, is a failing magazine that no one reads—and I heard you were critical of me. That’s your right, but then you should have just remained silent. I just want to tell you that I think you’re very disloyal. Without me, you wouldn’t be where you are now. I had a lot of choice of who to have write the book, and I chose you, and I was very generous with you. I know that you gave a lot of speeches and lectures using ‘The Art of the Deal.’ I could have sued you, but I didn’t.”

But what do the man’s friends say about him?

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One of the man’s classmates from New York Military Academy recalls the man, seemingly, as representative of a culture of hazing at the school. However, another former classmate, Peter Ticktin, who today runs a law firm, had this to say about the man in a Facebook post on March 4, 2016:

As a law firm, we at The Ticktin Law Group do not like to get involved in politics. As soon as we endorse one side, we risk alienating everyone on the other side. Also, our lawyers and staff are, themselves, on both sides. Politics is not our game. However, Justice is! If you saw a guy get publicly smeared, and you knew him well from the days you were friends and seniors together in high school, if you knew him to be a decent and honest man, would you want to say something? This is why I need to share what I know.

Mr. Ticktin goes on to write about the man as follows:

“(He) was my captain, and I was his 1st Platoon Sergeant. I sometimes joke that I ran his first company for him, Company “A.” People don’t really change much from the ages of 17 and 18, and I know this guy. I know him to be a good decent guy. We lived and breathed an Honor Code in those years. It wasn’t just a rule. It was our way of life.

and

“Of the 99 guys (no girls in those days) in our class, there is not one who I know who has a bad word to say about (him).”

Other classmates have equally positive opinions of the man including one former classmate, George Beuttell, who played football with the orange Oompa Loompa one and described him as a “good man” who “had direction back then that a lot of us other kids didn’t.”

Others, like Arthur Schoenewaldt, had this to say about him:

“He was intelligent, he presented himself well, he was athletic. I even heard from some of the coaches… he could have played professional baseball.”

So what else can be said about the man? On November 8th, 2016, he will either become the president of the factory or he will return to Oompa Loompa land.

Even if he wins the election, never forget the board of directors will still retain the consolidated power to bankrupt the factory at their leisure. This could turn the man into the reincarnated spirit of Herbert Hoover faster than a high-frequency trader’s algorithm could process a sell-order. The man has to realize this. But, yet, it does not stop him from marching down the yellow brick road to expose the wizards behind the curtain. But, again, that is entirely another production and, perhaps, better suited to be elaborated more upon in another review.

Until then, many are praying the man’s TV show will not get preempted. And, if he does obtain enough golden tickets to win the factory, be sure to tune in next year.

If you want to view paradise

Simply look around and view it

Anything you want to, do it

Want to make the world, there’s nothing to it

There is no life I know to compare with pure imagination

Living there you’ll be free, if you truly wish to be.

Only time will tell if the zeitgeist of Willy Wonka smiles upon the political Charlies, the Alt-Right Ooompa Loompa’s and others who are giving the orange man their faith, their trust and their golden tickets. Perhaps it is possible. If so, they at least will have one more chance to hear the ghost of Gene Wilder say:

“So shines a good deed in a weary world.”

Author: Uncola

I am one who has found the road less traveled while remaining a whiskered, whispering witness to the world. I hope what you just considered was worth the price and time spent. www.TheTollOnline.com

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Maggie
Maggie
October 8, 2016 9:48 am

I applaud this effort. The Orange Oompa Loompa Man is perfect. Much better than Pepe. I hope this goes viral.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
October 8, 2016 9:50 am

The top three positions in the US government are arguably President, Vice-President and Secretary of State. A Bush or a Clinton has held one of those positions for 32 of the last 36 years, during which time we’ve been invaded by illegal aliens, we’ve hollowed out our industrial base, run serial trade deficits that now run some $800 billion per year, been attacked by terrorists and waged multiple pointless wars costing thousands of American lives and trillions of dollars.

The globalists and corporatists who run this country demand continued open borders, more illegal immigration, trade agreements that surrender our sovereignty and more war. Their candidate is Clinton. That the Clintons and Bushes are indistinguishable is proven by the fact that the Bushes are backing Clinton.

If you keep doing what you’re doing, you’ll keep getting what you got. If you want more illegal immigration, more globalism, more war and more Muslim “refugees”, Clinton’s your candidate. If you want to finally seal the border, say “no” to One World Government disguised as a trade deal and stop using the US military in ill-fated attempts to depose governments and remake the world, you’ve only got one choice. He may be a boor, but he’s all you got, folks. It’s only a four year term.

kokoda - the most deplorable
kokoda - the most deplorable
  Iska Waran
October 8, 2016 10:39 am

Iska….my compliments to the meat you placed on the table.

susanna
susanna
  kokoda - the most deplorable
October 8, 2016 10:51 pm

The meat and the gravy, and even the potatoes are decent
and tasty. The poison tea and crumpets served by the
opposition are making some of us sick.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  Iska Waran
October 8, 2016 11:47 am

He may be a boor, but he’s all you got, folks. It’s only a four year term.

It’s just the tip. Only for a second. Just to see what it feels like.

Maggie
Maggie
October 8, 2016 10:00 am

One thought comes to mind regarding the Hooplah over Trump’s attempt to F*ck someone in 2005.

Does anyone remember when they dug up that prehistoric woman’s body and Bill Clinton said “If I wasn’t married, I’d date her.” Well, do you think her really meant “date”? Or did he just know he was being recorded.

Get real, folks. If all you can come up with on Trump is that he’s got good tax lawyers and he likes to screw good looking women, you probably aren’t gonna win many points with the deplorables.

By the way, I cannot find that comment by searching “If I wasn’t married, I’d date her” anywhere… things that make you go hmmmm. I must have seen it dozens of times when the Bill Clinton rape scandals were active.

This is the closest I could come to it when I searched again with the direct quote.

EL Coyote a Tribe of One
EL Coyote a Tribe of One
  Maggie
October 8, 2016 11:44 am

Maybe you meant, “If she wasn’t my daughter, I’d date her”

randy
randy
  Maggie
October 8, 2016 5:07 pm

Disgusting…Stone is deplorable.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  Maggie
October 11, 2016 9:49 pm

It was Trump talking about Ivanka who said if I wasn’t married and she wasn’t my daughter…
Poor Bill had to take the rap.

Lysander The Deplorable
Lysander The Deplorable
October 8, 2016 10:15 am

“This could turn the man into the reincarnated spirit of Herbert Hoover faster than a high-frequency trader’s algorithm could process a sell-order. The man has to realize this.”

Yes, that’s a definite possibility as I wouldn’t put anything past them.

Stubb
Stubb
October 8, 2016 11:24 am

“Best sex she ever had”. Marla Maples likes herself some of dat orange sherbert!

larry morris
larry morris
October 8, 2016 11:32 am

If we are to believe that suck ass Hillary is on the right hand of God then I’m buying more ammo.

Gay Veteran
Gay Veteran
  larry morris
October 8, 2016 11:50 am

you mean the right hand of Mammon

gammer
gammer
October 8, 2016 11:49 am

This is far more critical than the establishment of politicos and media against the outsider, it is the BANKERS (Rothchilds) against RUSSIA! Putin threw them out and they are stirring up the neocons to start a war with Russia to teach them a lesson. if Trump gets in, their war will be squashed because trump hates the bankers probably more than Putin does. Can you see Putin and Trump going to war with the bankers! They can! Lady rothchilds holds a $100K/plate dinner for Killery…

Reestablish Glass Stegal
Nationalize all Central Banks
Money working for People instead of People working for Money….

The battle lines are drawn

bb
bb
October 8, 2016 12:07 pm

Gay vertex , is a delusional , demented butt bumper with nothing to offer.Now go vote for Hillary degenerate reprobate.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  bb
October 8, 2016 12:21 pm

We all have our preversions.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  Iska Waran
October 8, 2016 12:31 pm

Do tell, Iska. We’re all ears.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  bb
October 8, 2016 12:34 pm

bb, like you never thumped some ripe bootay.

Gay Veteran
Gay Veteran
  bb
October 10, 2016 10:50 am

bb needs to pry his head out of his ass

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
October 8, 2016 12:30 pm

I hadn’t seen an episode of Entertainment Tonight and didn’t even recall if it was still around. I watched for a couple of minutes as they flashed tidbits of stories in rapid sequence. My mind became jelly.

Now I understood the early fascination with the show. It’s teevee for the add crowd. You keep waiting for the other shoe to drop and then they switch to another story.

This is the appeal of the Ooompa Loompa, he switches topics faster than his fans’ slow minds can process. Their animal brain fills in the missing components with their own raptor ideas and they like what they think they hear.

Vodka
Vodka
  EL Coyote
October 8, 2016 1:45 pm

EC,

Trump fans have “slow minds”?? You’re becoming delusional as the inevitability of Trump grows closer. It’s Saturday, calm yourself with a cocktail.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  Vodka
October 8, 2016 3:41 pm

Vashka, ‘Slow minds’ relatively speaking. Didn’t you read Unconditional’s comparison of Trump’s mind to that of a High Freq Trade computer? I meant that the mind races ahead of reality at times.

I recall Haldeen Braddy’s joke about the Russian out on a hunt. He spotted a rabbit and began to think of what he’d get for it, a few rubles which would be enough to buy some Vashka! he yelled happily. And the rabbit was gone.

(BTW, movies take advantage of your slow mind to create action from still pics projected in rapid sequence, the effect of your mind filling in the gaps is due to what’s called ‘persistence of vision’.)

I don’t drink but I admit I’m quite fond of diet coke.

Rise Up
Rise Up
  EL Coyote
October 9, 2016 8:04 pm

That TV show bus that the Donald was on was “Access Hollywood”, not Entertainment Tonight.

Uncola
Uncola
October 8, 2016 1:51 pm

Just an addendum here: This morning I had breakfast with two friends. One is the owner of a national business and the other is a physician. One is a devout liberal and the other identifies as conservative.

Politics came up and our conversation became quite heated although more for them, than me. I held back, let them express themselves and with only a few minor returning lobs on my part, mainly to see what they had to say.

They believe the Trumpster should bow out of the race over his “pussy” comment from 2005. They both believe Hillary to be the more “well-adjusted” candidate in spite of her flaws. They believe Donald Trump has emotional and mental issues.

It was very interesting to say the least. Because they are friends, and because I held back a lot of my own opinions, I felt a little “shaky” after I left the restaurant. But, in retrospect, this may have been due to my four cups of coffee. In any case, I once again resorted to reciting the Serenity Prayer on my home and feel just fine now.

On another note: Thank you everyone so far for your comments. I have a busy weekend planned and will be reading everything here on TBP but not commenting as much. I am also looking forward to the debate Sunday night. In the meantime, keep rockin’ the free world….

CoalClinker
CoalClinker
  Uncola
October 8, 2016 2:43 pm

Uncola, your two friends the doctor and the business leader both have two things in common. They both have money, and over time they have lost any idea how the lesser folks think and live. Since they can’t even imagine how the other 99% exist, they have no idea why Trump and the so called alt-right has risen. Sooner or later their normalcy bias will change, and they will likely become very miserable people, not unlike, say, the French nobility of circa 1794. Sooner or later any sort of normalcy bias will have a very short and likely brutish life span. I told some of my colleagues after lunch that, “one of these days people will be so shocked that their shit will literally be running down their legs, knowing there’s nothing they can do about it.” They looked at me with very serious looks. with a hint of worry as well. They understood that we do not live in normal times, and that life will soon become very interesting.

Kill Bill
Kill Bill
October 8, 2016 3:07 pm

I dislike both Hillarity and Rump.

*Brain Bleach Alert*

I would lurv to put them in cold room, nekkid as a jaybird, with bare metal furnishings, and watch the human Martini olive and Cheeto man stay warm.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  Kill Bill
October 8, 2016 3:18 pm

John and another dude who I would call a buddy anyway, pissed me off so badly one time that I dwelt on a fantasy of pistol whipping them into a bondage scenario. I’d tie them up together au naturel overnight.

Kill Bill
Kill Bill
  EL Coyote
October 9, 2016 6:04 pm

LoL Coyote

monger
monger
October 8, 2016 4:26 pm

Gods last trump.

randy
randy
October 8, 2016 5:04 pm

“A Bush or a Clinton has held one of those positions for 32 of the last 36 years,”

Of all of Hillary’s flaws, this is what I consider the worst. Bill acted like a degenerate in the oval office, and W fucked up the world with war in the middle east and a financial crisis…

Unc…Nice piece…I disagree with a little, but it’s fly shit in the pepper.

If this new controversy were a flash in the pan, something said off the cuff ten years ago, The Trumpkin could apologize, and move on. But this crap is a pattern that reveals how the man’s brain is wired.

As weak as Clinton is, one wonders why the Republican Party didn’t collude to promote a moderate Republican…A lot of democrats don’t abide a Clinton dynasty. And traditionally, after eight years, America usually changes sides…

anyway…I look forward to your next essay.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  randy
October 9, 2016 2:11 am

They did, Randy. But the Clintons colluded with Trump to knock them all down. If you recall, half the Republicans threw their hats in the ring. I called Trump a clown and a spoiler from the beginning. This has not made me a popular character on TBP. Big whoop. Like Admin is going to cut my pay. If Obama was baked in, Hillary is frozen in like Han Solo.

At times I put aside these convictions and wonder, what if it isn’t pretend? But you have to put aside your common sense. You have to go full Alt to buy into the story of an improbable candidate with the potential for embarrassing pronouncements.

Not that Truman was a stranger to bathroom language. Nixon did well by guy talk. But neither of them was a pussy hound. No, if we start playing which guys are not like the others, we’d end up with JFK, Bill and Donald.

Which would give Donald a chance because of the precedent but he’s 4 years early. Or he’s right on time. No, 2020 is his hour. Hillary will get to do 4 years like Carter and Bush I.

randy
randy
  EL Coyote
October 9, 2016 1:33 pm

The media, in it’s necessary need for ratings, knew that Trump would provide that…So they share much of the blame in covering him more than the other Republicans in the primaries.

Republicans share an enormous amount of blame for throwing out 17 candidates for the nomination. For not stepping in and handing out goodies (which is the way politics is conducted) to folks to back out so that the public could take the primaries more seriously. I mean really…two sets of candidates in a “first tier” debate and ‘second tier”….Who’s stupid idea was this? Priebus should step down.

I found it very entertaining that Trump would demand that networks pay to have him on the debate stage. Although, I never thought he was a serious candidate, and have been early calling for a democratic landslide (regardless as to whether the nominee was Clinton, or Sanders)…

Trump may have been able to get around past comments, if he had the discipline to act like a serious candidate. And I give credit to KellyAnne for getting him to act serious for three weeks in September…

But, he can’t control himself. He is more interested in the opinion of yes “men” than honest and true advice from people who have run election campaigns…

It is too early to call whether Clinton will be a one termer…It all depends as to whether the Republican party can get it’s head out it’s ass and promote a Republican that can get votes from the other side…

Like Reagan did…or at least make the election close enough that it can be stolen – like Bush did…

MMinLamesa
MMinLamesa
  randy
October 9, 2016 5:07 am

You hilariously spewed, “…one wonders why the Republican Party didn’t collude to promote a moderate Republican…”

This is a pretty good marker of your political naivete. It’s weapons grade stupid.

randy
randy
  MMinLamesa
October 9, 2016 11:29 am

Really, weapons grade stupid…

And allowing Trump to be the nominee was weapons grade smart?

Unlike many here, I have actually held an elected position. I have actually run two (winning) election campaigns… As an outsider.

The key is to be honest about what you disagree with, offer an alternative, and show that you will work hard for all of the people, not just your supporters.

Trump demonstrated that he would lie about anything during the primaries, and has continued with that theme in the general. He also implies that he is only in it for his supporters.

While you want to call me politically naive, it is Trump who continues to make mistakes, and has no reasonable contrition about those mistakes.

We all knew who Trump was before he won the Republican nomination…So the moniker of political naivete swings heavily around the neck of the Republican party.

They had their party high-jacked by a buffoon, after eight years of a black president who is leaving office with the highest approval rating in decades…

Talk about a group of people who can’t read the political tea leaves…They should have had control of their own party, and nominated someone who could actually win…Which in America, has to be a centrist…

Trump is a clown.

anyway…

randy
randy
  randy
October 9, 2016 11:44 am

I won elections twice to be president of NAMBLA. I was so proud.

I was an outsider, but now I’m an insider. If you know what I mean. 🙂

You can all see my warped mindset when I say “allowing Trump to be the nominee”. I believe really smart elitists like myself should decide who the nominee should be because I’m so much smarter and well informed than the lowly peasants.

I was so impressed with how my girl Hillary was able to rig the Democrat process to keep Sanders from winning. I love being a pompous hypocritical ass on a website I despise.

randy
randy
  randy
October 9, 2016 11:49 am

You laugh randy…but you watch…

The Republicans will have a version of superdelegates in the next cycle…

MMinLamesa
MMinLamesa
  randy
October 10, 2016 8:04 am

You spewed, “…Trump demonstrated that he would lie about anything during the primaries” Oh really? What exactly oh great one has he lied about? I’ll wait……

Yeah

Asshole

susanna
susanna
October 8, 2016 11:05 pm

Uncola,
We really like you. And appreciate your clever writing.

We are all sick to hell of the current putrid fraudsters and
their vendettas and never ending wars…murdering leaders,
and looting yet another country to further their wealth and
power.

Trump is an anecdote…and we hope it isn’t a ruse, sham, scam.
Right now? It beats escalating wars, and everyone is a Hitler.
Just an opinion. I am not a “connected” person.

Suzanna

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
  susanna
October 8, 2016 11:24 pm

“Trump is an anecdote…and we hope it isn’t a ruse, sham, scam.”

I keep thinking Trump’s latest scandals and comments and lack of preparation during the first debate are signs that he does not actually want the presidency but that he can’t back out without appearing weak. With mathematical issues so large they cannot be undone and with half the country at the other half’s throats would you want the job?

Maybe he sobered up long enough to figure out only a fool would want the position and is leaving it for Hillary? Would be poetic justice in a way… careful what you ask for and the like.

MMinLamesa
MMinLamesa
  susanna
October 9, 2016 5:10 am

I think this piece is garbage. All I have to say is keep it up assholes-keep smearing the one and only chance we have left to stop the fucking nightmare.

I guarantee you if Hillary is elected, we will fondly look back in 2 years at horror we’re in now and wish things could be like that again.

Stubb
Stubb
  MMinLamesa
October 9, 2016 9:58 am

@ MinLamoron, You still have to face the facts. You’ll never get laid by sucking your own dick. Think about that douchebag as you vote out the garbage.

MMinLamesa
MMinLamesa
  Stubb
October 10, 2016 8:08 am

I’ll never get laid by sucking my own dick??? WTF does that mean?

Further, maybe a little punctuation with this gem “Think about that douchebag as you vote out the garbage.” might have helped you sound a little more coherent.

Sheeesh

randy
randy
  MMinLamesa
October 9, 2016 11:41 am

This is the same argument used against Obama by Sarah Palin…

And no one, credibly, can argue that America is worse off than America was in the last years of the Bush administration.

Trump would do no different the Clinton.

And what surprises me is that this site usually is of the mind that the president is actually just a puppet – put in place by the elite.

Or that the president is at the mercy of Congress, who has an even more unfavourable rating than even Trump or Clinton.

Just because we like to be entertained, and Trump is definitely more entertaining than Clinton, doesn’t mean we should check long held beliefs about the corrupt way that politicians play on the public psyche.

Gay Veteran
Gay Veteran
  randy
October 10, 2016 11:29 am

“…And no one, credibly, can argue that America is worse off than America was in the last years of the Bush administration….”

BS, Obama is risking war with Russia, doubled the national debt, and imposed ObamaScam on us

Bruce Smith
Bruce Smith
October 9, 2016 2:28 am

Hillary said about a week ago: “The next 40 days will determine the next 40 years.” We all know she’s referring to the Supreme Court. While I don’t like what Trump said, I’m not ready to concede the Supreme Court for 40 years because of it.

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
  Bruce Smith
October 9, 2016 11:01 am

Bruce,

That’s assuming the country lasts that long.

randy
randy
  Bruce Smith
October 9, 2016 11:44 am

Now here is a legitimate argument that I can agree with…

Personally, I believe that this is the most important issue of this contest…

And if Trump weren’t so protective of his ego and brand, he would be hammering this issue every day.

Suzanna
Suzanna
October 9, 2016 8:58 am

Really folks, it is not about what a guy said to other guys over a decade
ago. I can’t believe that matters. Now if Trump had hired fancy lawyers
to get him off from rape charges, and he had women killed to keep them
quiet…that would be really bad. The man used coarse language? The
man seems ADD and tangential? The man took out loans and dealt with
tax authorities for his obligations to be reduced/altered? Come on folks…
if he looked and talked like Jesus would you bash him for the long hair?
(I am not going to list HC’s crimes and financial manipulations…you know
what they are)…

Suzanna

randy
randy
  Suzanna
October 9, 2016 11:47 am

You can’t believe his language matters?

Tell that to parents and teachers who have to explain this to their children/classroom…

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  randy
October 9, 2016 12:49 pm

God, you are such a fucking pansy. Why don’t you care about the thousands of European women who have been raped by the “refugees” who’ve invaded Europe after Hillary destroyed the Middle East? Trump used bad words. Clinton delivered Libya to ISIS.

randy
randy
  Iska Waran
October 9, 2016 1:04 pm

um…after hillary destroyed the middle east?

Are we forgetting that it was the Bush administration that went into Iraq after 911…

No we’re not…”we’re” pivoting away from a real issue, which is the Supreme Court…

It’s over…

Just like when Sarah Palin was revealed as, essentially, an idiot…

The good thing is that you all here will have at least four years to call Hillary all the bad names you will call her, while ironically feigning concern for women in other parts of the world…

fuckin idiots….you guys contradict yourselves in ways that surprise me…

randy
randy
  randy
October 9, 2016 1:21 pm

The hypocrisy of pompous liberals who scorn and ridicule politicians for using offensive language when they then turn around and call others fucking idiots is breathtaking to behold.

My myopic demented view of the world is revealed by ignoring the fact that Obama and Clinton ramped up the war in Afghanistan, left Iraq to terrorists, overthrew Ghaddafi leaving a vacuum for ISIS, armed the moderates who became ISIS, and instigated the war in Syria to benefit Saudi Arabia and their pipeline to Europe.

My idiocy is on display for all to see.

The mind of a dumbass liberal is a horrible thing to see in action.

Don’t you think?

randy
randy
  randy
October 9, 2016 6:12 pm

listen…you’re either making fun of me…while pretending to be me…which is ok…

But if you want a conversation, then you really can continue to manhandle my handle, and leave it looking like I’m arguing with myself…

jackass…

Rise Up
Rise Up
  randy
October 9, 2016 8:14 pm

Randy and Randy: It’s OK to talk to yourself, and it’s OK to answer yourself, but NEVER interrupt yourself!

Gay Veteran
Gay Veteran
  randy
October 10, 2016 11:30 am

Moron, just ignore how Obama destroyed Libya and Syria, and is helping the tyrannts in Saudi Arabia destroy Yemen. AND is risking war with Russia (even W wasn’t that STUPID)

Unfriendly
Unfriendly
  randy
October 9, 2016 1:03 pm

Perhaps letting the pussy out of the bag is the best thing ever for Trump’s campaign. Once again we see the Left and the mushy-minded middle calling into question the integrity of those who are supposed to be on the Right. If a disgraced president splatters an intern’s blue dress with spunk, and then commits perjury over it, that is OK, because it’s just sex and politics. There is no accountability when it comes to the Left because they have no morality and this is why everything is permissible to them. This also explains the Left’s obvious lack of concern for the children of the late 1990s or their parents who had to explain to their 9 year olds the definition of a blow job.

But when a conservative flashes his junk, the liberals then grab him by the short hairs and think they have him by the balls. Which they usually do, and thus, the conservative will step down out of respect and honor for the nation at large. Yet, in the case of Trump what is absolutely fucking hilarious is that he doesn’t give a flying fuck for what hypocrites like Randy think. He will, therefore, double down and this will further expose the feigned righteous indignation of the Left as complete and utter bullshit in the eyes of the voters.

Moreover, Trump just got the Black vote because he now is perceived as a Pimp in the eyes of the gangsta’s rappin’ away in inner cities all across ‘Murica! Fuck yeah! And pass the fucking popcorn.

randy
randy
  Unfriendly
October 9, 2016 1:13 pm

The problem for the deplorables is that they are right to attack Bill for his degenerate actions, and lying about it (although, all men would lie in that situation, and one suspects that women would lie as well)…But are entirely wrong for supporting Trump based on Bill’s bullshit.

So, the issue in putting Trumps bullshit beside Bill’s bullshit is that: one – If this bullshit was deplorable by Bill (which it is), then it must be considered deplorable by Trump…(which it is).

And two: If this bullshit is so offensive by Bill, then why is Trump being caught up in the same stupid behaviour (ten years after Bill’s bullshit).

The cognitive dissonance is un-naturally strong here…(and at Zero Hedge)…

It also proves the old adage – there is no such thing as bad publicity…especially in the minds of disingenuous stupid people…

Unfriendly
Unfriendly
  randy
October 9, 2016 1:29 pm

Douchebag Dandy says:

“all men would lie in that situation, and one suspects that women would lie as well”

What has Trump lied about ? Unlike Bill, Trump owns it and admitted what he SAID. But slick willie, didn’t admit what he DID! Get it now dumbass?

Yet the high and mighty now whine and cry regarding “cognitive dissonance” and “disingenuous stupid people”

There you are. You just convicted yourself Randy. Nice work. Keep coming back. I think I might just decide to fuck you up all day. Unless I change my mind, because I am starting to think you might just be a fucking, idiotic, disingenuous, stupid troll not worth the effort. In any case, no matter what I decide, keep revealing yourself. It’s hilarious. Even more funny is what you don’t see when you look in the mirror.

randy
randy
  Unfriendly
October 9, 2016 1:51 pm

My opinion as a liberal Canadian who voted for male model Trudeau is beyond question when it comes to American politics. You know I was elected twice as an outsider.

Of course, it was an election for dogcatcher.

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randy
randy
  randy
October 9, 2016 1:56 pm

My male friends tell me I’m really smart, so I must be.

Maybe I can write my 25th 500 word comment of the day, since my pathetic excuse for a life has left me posting on a blog I hate the entire weekend.

I wish someone would call in a missing dog alert.

randy
randy
  randy
October 9, 2016 6:13 pm

um…I didn’t vote for Trudeau…

We don’t get to vote for the Prime Minister in Canada.

RiNS the deplorable
RiNS the deplorable
  Unfriendly
October 9, 2016 2:17 pm

@Unfriendly

I was going to reply to randy but you have done such a great summation that there ain’t much to add right now.

I find it a measure of someone that they can be successfully distracted by comments made in 2005 while ignoring the Data dumps from wikileaks that lay out for all to see the contempt the Clintons have for the 99%.

If a majority of people would rather talk about inappropiate comments and this turns out to be the deciding factor versus real policy matters then Clinton might as well have the job.

Leaks don’t matter unles your Trump and neither do lives.

randy
randy
  Unfriendly
October 9, 2016 2:35 pm

I didn’t say that Trump lied about this current issue, I said Bill lied.

But, if I wanted to, I could list the lies that Trump has uttered.

To muddy up the issue I’m talking about shows that you don’t read to understand, you read to reply…

Any smart person could see the tactic of distraction from my words, by actually lying about what my words describe. It’s like calling out someone for grammar or spelling, as opposed to the premise of the post. Why not attack the premise of my post?

Which is: That if it was deplorable for Bill, how is it not deplorable for The Donald?

You can be my huckleberry all day, and to a reasonable critical thinker, you will very likely, lose all credibility. You may get high fives from the deplorables here, only because there are a lot of hive minded, selfish, alt-right people here.

Bring it…

At the end of the day, I fully expect that you deplorables will convince the site administrators to block my access to commenting…because you can’t defend this particular candidates extreme shortcomings (and hands…). Very short sighted…Your movement can’t get bigger, unless you can expand your tent. Simply shunning people because they disagree makes your ranks smaller…

And at that point, Friday Fails, People of Walmart, and even some of the great, non partisan writing will fail to keep me from deleting this site from my favourites.

RiNS the deplorable
RiNS the deplorable
  randy
October 9, 2016 4:01 pm

…randy

Not sure how tall you are. Man you really are a big feeling guy. But my guess is shit is piled about 5 and a half feet tall in your house.

You seem quick to accuse me of confort in my bias yet never cast a critical eye towards hillary or your own liberal view.

Be like uncola and see both sides.

You are intellectually boring in your constant one sided liberal tropes. How about you hop on plane and get stumped by a Clinton. Either one it doesn’t matter.

Trump is a buffoon. Very true. But that it seems is a requirement these days to be accepted into political club. Hopefully he gets elected so that he has 2 things in common with you.

Gay Veteran
Gay Veteran
  randy
October 10, 2016 11:35 am

man you are king of stupid, Trump talking about pussy is as bad as Slick Willie sexually harassing women???

Blunt Force
Blunt Force
October 9, 2016 1:19 pm

Americans have two choices. One, a bawdy business leader who promises an end to off-shoring of American jobs and border security versus an evil rapist enabling globalist witch who vows to increase third world immigration by a million a year and perpetual war on a global scale . One is survivable.The other not. A choice is made whether to choose one or not.

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randy
randy
  Blunt Force
October 9, 2016 1:40 pm

So…you compare promises that won’t be kept, by one candidate, to your opinion about the other…

If you were intellectually honest, then you would compare both of their promises, THEN cut up Hill’s promises…

But your kind doesn’t think critically, or care about gaining votes from the opposite side…a losing strategy… not everyone in Merka is stupid.

It’s over…Trump cannot win without expanding the tent that is currently collapsing around him…

People still love the Toronto Maple Leafs…even though they haven’t won the cup for (it seems) centuries…That fan-dom, does not make the Leafs winners…

pay attention…

Blunt Force
Blunt Force
  randy
October 9, 2016 1:54 pm

With virtually no evil yet committed against the American people and promises which may be kept, there is absolutely no contest againsta verifiable evil which has a long history of deceit,corruption, murder and treason.No tent is big enough for evil on that scale.

randy
randy
  Blunt Force
October 9, 2016 2:41 pm

So the fact that one candidate has exactly zero experience gives him the upper hand in peace?

Ridiculous…every American government has a history of war, deceipt, corruption, murder, and treason AND genocide, terrorism, crimes against humanity, false flags against it’s own people, and crimes of humanity against it’s own people…

Yes even the Obama administration…

And if, in fantasy land, Trump were to gain the office, congress would make sure that Trump would carry on the traditions outlined above.

Shake your head…Trump is not a golden child, even though, he acts like one on tv…

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  randy
October 9, 2016 1:59 pm

You pay attention you stupid twat. The Clintons and the Bushes are on the same team. Their opponents are us. That’s why the Bushes are voting for Clinton. Hillary voted for W’s wars and then, not having learned anything, she agitated to depose Gaddafi for no good reason whatsoever. “Responsibility to Protect” my ass. Then she and McCain and Graham who – again – are on the same team, started arming the Sunni insurgents (aka ISIS) to depose the recognized leader of Syria who Nancy Pelosi had pronounced acceptable only a few years earlier. You just can’t get it through your thick Canadian skull that Hillary is every bit the warmonger that McCain – who I never voted for – is.

randy
randy
  Iska Waran
October 9, 2016 6:19 pm

yes…Iska, I can…

I do get it…What the hive here doesn’t get is that it’s not the president how makes the final decision to go to war. It’s congress……………

Get it?

Now what in the hell makes any of you believe that Trump can control congress?

The man can’t even control himself…

Administrator
Administrator
  randy
October 9, 2016 6:54 pm

Yikes.

Handy randy actually thinks congress makes the decision to go to war. That might be the dumbest fucking statement ever made on TBP, hands down. The idiocy of such a statement is beyond the pale. We’ve been at perpetual war for the last 65 years and congress has not declared war once. They have not declared war since December 1941 you fucking moron.

Your ignorance certainly puts you in the lead for replacing bb as the TBP Village Idiot.

Now proceed to write 500 words of ridiculous drivel to try and rationalize how your asinine statement wasn’t false.

randy
randy
  Administrator
October 9, 2016 6:57 pm

Semantics…the president can’t get funding for “war” without congressional approval…

11 words…

Administrator
Administrator
  randy
October 9, 2016 7:06 pm

Bullshit. There is 3.8 trillion dollars sitting around for the president to do as he pleases. Obama has not had to go to Congress for one penny for his wars of choice in the Middle East. Your knowledge of how the US operates is on the level of a 3rd grader.

Stick your 11 words up your ass.

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
  randy
October 9, 2016 9:39 pm

1 word. Libya.

Now go play somewhere else.

Gay Veteran
Gay Veteran
  randy
October 10, 2016 11:40 am

BS, when did Congress authorize war in Syria???

Unfriendly
Unfriendly
  randy
October 9, 2016 2:07 pm

@ Randy:

If you were intellectually honest you would you would cut up “Her”. But you don’t. Conversely, I am not defending Trump. I don’t have too. At least not to you.

As regarding “gaining votes from the opposite side”, this is impossible. That would be like Jean-Luc Picard negotiating with the Borg. You know this true, yet you act like it’s possible to obtain votes from the Democratic Party. LMFAO!

If Trump wins next month, it won’t be because of any fucking “tent”. It will be from the riotous mobs coming out of the wilderness to do battle with the establishment and the utter fucking bullshit the establishment represents.

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Now, excuse me, but I think I will go outside to enjoy the rest of my day. Please feel free to talk amongst your selves…

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  Unfriendly
October 9, 2016 3:21 pm

I didn’t understand why folks were beating up on randy but now I figure it’s the TBP welcome wagon. I hope randy doesn’t get the idea TBP doesn’t tolerate dissenting points of view.

I just want to say, Uncola, the LLPOH rule is to be nice, courteous, on your own article. I think it’s a good rule.

Unfriendly
Unfriendly
  EL Coyote
October 9, 2016 6:29 pm

Aw, El, I didn’t mean no harm. It was just Randy’s and my first real fight. Since we are becoming better friends I thought he should see that side of me, that’s all. I’ll try to be more nicer. I really will. I was just seeing red there for a minute but I’m OK now, I think.

randy
randy
  Unfriendly
October 9, 2016 6:34 pm

That’s alright Unf…

My skin is thick…

randy
randy
  Unfriendly
October 9, 2016 6:39 pm

That’s alright Unf….

I like dick….

RiNS the deplorable
RiNS the deplorable
  Unfriendly
October 10, 2016 8:11 am

Unfriendly

I am enjoying this takedown that you have embarked on of randy. Stubborn ignorance on his part needs to be countered with determined facts. I didnt watch the degate last night because I had a ball game to watch but it sounds to me like she got her pussh handed to herl

Huma is going to have to lick her box for a week to make the pain go away.

So cheers man

Anonymous
Anonymous
October 9, 2016 5:54 pm

Ok, for the record Hillarity is a douche bag and Rump is a douche nozzle.

See the difference?

randy
randy
  Anonymous
October 9, 2016 6:55 pm

Exactly…But the language coming out of the douche bag is at least cordial enough for kids to hear, and clean enough to talk about in school. Everyone here knows, but seems to ignore, the fact that of millions of American children studying and doing projects on the election.

Whereas the douche nozzle is taking the language so far into the gutter, that one wonders how teachers, and parents are able to have conversations with the children they are responsible for molding into respectable adults.

I see the difference…

Administrator
Administrator
  randy
October 9, 2016 7:03 pm

Millions of children doing projects on the election. Now that is a classic. They’re busy having liberal indoctrination classes where they do projects on why transgenderism should be glorified and encouraged. 75% of school students couldn’t name the VP. 75% of dumbass adults can’t name the VP.

I wonder if millions of school students did reports on all the uses of a presidential cigar during the great reign of Clinton.

I wonder if they are doing reports on rape and presidential candidates attacking the rape victims. They could learn so much.

You are appalled by such language but call people douche bags, douche nozzles, fucking idiots, and assorted other derogatory terms. You’re a joke.

randy
randy
  Administrator
October 9, 2016 8:31 pm

First Admin, Obama does not have any wars going on in the Middle East. He is arming one set of people against another set to advance US (Israeli) interests in the region.

He has supported rebel coups…Not declared war…Fuck, he won’t even use the words “radical islamic terrorist”…

Once again, semantics.

Second: Just because you say that kids are enduring liberal indoctrination doesn’t mean that American school children and young adults are not doing projects, mock debates, mock elections, writing essays, and having political discussions.

Third: My objection is to the language of a particular candidate. To throw poo at my language, when I’m simply using the vernacular of this site (to throw poo), is entirely hypocritical and devoid of any credibility.

I can have a nuanced conversation without using the blunt instrument of name calling, but it seems to be the way it is around here…

And it’s not new. Grow a set.

Administrator
Administrator
  randy
October 9, 2016 8:51 pm

Semantics is the response of a dimwit. How did those 64 Syrian soldiers get killed last week? Those weren’t American missiles fired by America warplanes? Who blew up that Doctors without borders hospital? American warthogs douchebag.

Was the American soldier killed this week in Afghanistan by a roadside bomb on vacation?

Obama keeps putting more soldiers into Iraq every week. I don’t seem to see him asking for permission from congress.

Obama reviles in the fact he has droned thousands of ragheads over the last 8 years.

Sorry randy the douche nozzle fuckwit. The US is at war in the Middle East and has been since 2001. I can’t help it that you’re a dullard who would rather believe his own false narrative than the facts.

Facts are inconvenient to liberals. Grow a brain asshole.

I noticed your anti-semetic remark. Let’s hear your views on the Jews hotshot.

randy
randy
  Administrator
October 10, 2016 11:38 am

Really…You’re gonna take solace in your argument that America is at war using the fact that a hospital was destroyed?

If you’re going to brag about the actions of American forces blowing up hospitals (and weddings, schools, funerals etc.) then I really have nothing to add that would make that narrative more disgusting.

Accept maybe that America stands behind apartheid in Israel…

Now what was my anti-semetic remark?

Administrator
Administrator
  randy
October 10, 2016 11:45 am

Village idiot ignores the ongoing war in Afghanistan and the FACT that US warplanes killed 64 Syrian soldiers last week. If it sounds like war, acts like war, and results in deaths of soldiers, it’s war.

What’s disgusting is how a pea brain like yourself is so narrow minded and convinced of his own idiotic narrative that he can’t see the facts right in front of his nose.

What a boob. You still are the proud owner of the dumbest fucking statement in the history of TBP.

I really should require an IQ test to comment so I could weed out retards like yourself.

Gay Veteran
Gay Veteran
  randy
October 10, 2016 11:43 am

jebus, you are stone cold STUPID, Obama has troops in Iraq and Syria

Francis Marion
Francis Marion
  randy
October 9, 2016 9:46 pm

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Kill Bill
Kill Bill
October 9, 2016 5:58 pm

“bb, like you never thumped some ripe bootay.” El Coyote

Now now Lobos, we arent going to discuss bb’s rest-stop antics in mens restrooms.
K?

Kill Bill
Kill Bill
October 9, 2016 6:19 pm

Randy, you may hate the website, but admin (Jim) encourages this type of politically incorrect)) debate. So the monkeys here throw feces. Welcome to TBP. 🙂

randy
randy
  Kill Bill
October 9, 2016 6:48 pm

Again…nowhere did I say that I hate this site…

If I hated this site, then why would I bother to read, and then comment?

That’s just like the line that I haven’t taken shots at Hillary, Bill, or Obama, when it is clear that I have…

I just don’t feel the need to be balanced in my poo throwing, because of the glaring idiocracy that represents the Trump campaign…

Thanx for the welcome…Shalom.

randy
randy
October 9, 2016 6:33 pm

Rins, and Unfriendly…

“You seem quick to accuse me of confort in my bias yet never cast a critical eye towards hillary or your own liberal view.”

“If you were intellectually honest you would you would cut up “Her””

I have cut up Hillary (insider DINO beholden to Wall Street)…I’ve also cut up Bill (impeached degenerate in the White House)…As a matter of fact I even called Obama a war criminal in this very thread….

You guys read what you want, instead of what is written….It’s there.

Thanx El…I’m not so self absorbed to understand that there are thinking people here on this site, with some opinions that I do agree with.

I just don’t abide the “white nationalist” slant that has taken over here (and at ZH). And will never knuckle under to it just to belong.

randy
randy
  randy
October 9, 2016 6:44 pm

I will never knuckle under and use my brain, when feelings and ridiculing others I think are beneath me is my game.

I’m warning you. I’m going to take this blog off my favorites list. You better beware and fall into line.

Oops gotta go. Doug Becker and Cdubbya have arrived. We’re gonna circle jerk while singing the Canadian national anthem and tell stories about our glorious leader – male model Trudeau.

randy
randy
October 9, 2016 7:05 pm

The War Powers Act, according to the Constitution – Congress declares war but the President is the Commander in Chief of the armed forces. The President may send the military anywhere to do anything. Within sixty days Congress must pass an authorization allowing the action, or the military gets recalled. This was passed in reaction the Vietnam War, twelve year(+) undeclared war.

But they didn’t declare war on Iraq and Afghanistan. They called it Authorization to use Military force.

Administrator
Administrator
  randy
October 9, 2016 7:11 pm

You forgot Syria, Libya, Yemen, and the coups in Egypt and Ukraine.

Your wiki knowledge is worthless bullshit. We are at war all over the middle east through drones, CIA operatives, providing arms to everyone, and generally fucking up the world.

The president doesn’t and hasn’t needed congress to authorize anything he’s done in the last 8 years.

Keep arguing a ridiculous point because you are too arrogant to admit you are 100% wrong.

Dumbest fucking statement ever made on TBP. Congrats. You win.

randy
randy
  Administrator
October 9, 2016 8:53 pm

No…

There are no official wars going on in the MENA…

There are official ways to congress to declare war, and for the president to declare an Authorization to use Military force.

Those are facts. Here are more.

“But both Republicans and Democrats on the House and Senate intelligence committees had expressed worries that the arms could end up in the hands of Islamist militants in Syria like the Nusra Front, and would not be enough to tip the balance of the civil war against President Bashar al-Assad anyway.

Part of the logjam was broken on July 12 when members of the Senate Intelligence Committee who had questioned the wisdom of arming the insurgents decided behind closed doors to tentatively agree that the administration could go ahead with its plans, but sought updates as the covert effort proceeded.

Now, the House committee has also given at least a cautious go-ahead.”

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-syria-arms-idUSBRE96L0W520130723

Now did you see that? The Senate Intelligence Committee decided BEHIND CLOSED DOORS…and…the COVERT EFFORT proceeded.

It’s one thing to believe conspiracies, it’s another thing to ignore facts.

And quite honestly, your hyperbolic statement “Dumbest fucking statement ever made on TBP” is ridiculous, yet “You win.” sounds about right.

Thanx

Administrator
Administrator
  randy
October 9, 2016 8:57 pm

randy is desperately trying to prove his stupidest statement in TBP history isn’t really stupid.

Sorry douchebag. You lose. Your cut and paste drivel is nothing but part of the false narrative.

Facts trump narrative. Liberals like yourself live for narratives because your pea brains can’t process facts.

You are officially declared TBP Village Idiot and will be know as such from now onwards. Congrats.

randy
randy
  Administrator
October 9, 2016 9:07 pm

Again, no.

My cut and paste is to provide support for my opinion. You can make fun of me because I do research before I write…It’s okay.

Funny, you call me out for name calling, when all I did was use words that another poster used to describe Clinton and Trump.

And now you’re calling me a douchebag…

hehehe…and I’m the one that’s desperate….?….heheheheh….

So are you saying that the liberal narrative is false and the conservative narrative is true?

Administrator
Administrator
  randy
October 9, 2016 9:14 pm

Grow a pair randy.

Your opinion is based upon your flawed thought process. A muddled mind will regurgitate drivel like your asinine statement we are not at war in the Middle East.

It’s sad that you continue to flounder about trying to make a case that is idiotic.

I think I’ll call you Mr. Semantic Village Idiot.

randy
randy
  Administrator
October 9, 2016 9:22 pm

Go ahead….

100, I win…

Administrator
Administrator
  randy
October 9, 2016 9:31 pm

Hey Mr Semantic Village Idiot

How come you haven’t responded with your facts regarding my comment listing all the war FACTS?

I guess that is your MO. When confronted with unequivocal facts you ignore or fall back on your false narrative.

Come on VI and address the facts.

Unfriendly
Unfriendly
October 9, 2016 7:38 pm

@Randy says: “Hillary is a DINO beholden to Wall Street who is married to a degenerate, impeached rapist who she defended and still does and Obama is a war criminal. But Trump is a clown and a TV personality who likes pussy.

Therefore, vote for Hillary everybody! And, oh yeah, TBP is raaayciisss!”

Do you see the liberal mind at work? My oh my. It truly is something to behold. In fact, I think it’s actually something I wouldn’t mind studying full-time.

Nah, on second thought I think I’d rather watch The Apprentice.

randy
randy
  Unfriendly
October 9, 2016 8:34 pm

yep…bash me for not cutting up liberals, then bash me when i cut up liberals…

almost amusing.

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  randy
October 9, 2016 8:50 pm

No, I bash you for condemning who you describe as a potty-mouthed, clown while simultaneously advocating a presidential candidate who, in your words, is beholden to Wall Street and who is married to a degenerate rapist as she currently feigns indignation towards the potty-mouthed clown for saying the word “pussy” 10 years ago.

I swear dude, I couldn’t make that shit up if I tried…

randy
randy
  Unfriendly
October 9, 2016 9:01 pm

I’m not advocating for anyone, I’m advocating against someone…

get it straight man…

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  randy
October 9, 2016 9:13 pm

You have said before that Hillary would make a better president, the middle class would do better under her, and that she has a better temperament. Moreover, you’re attacks on Trump have been ad hominem. You are being disingenuous by saying that you have not been advocating for her.

randy
randy
October 9, 2016 9:21 pm

No. I said Hillary presents a better role model as president to children and young people.

One could also make the argument that she has relationships with world leaders, Senators, and Congressmen, and that will give her a leg up in walking into the job.

Trump is a rich rube…

18 minutes into the debate, and Trump is shitting the bed…

It is so over for the Orange Oompa Loompa…

Gay Veteran
Gay Veteran
  randy
October 10, 2016 12:30 pm

“… I said Hillary presents a better role model as president to children and young people….”

since when did being a war-mongering psychopath become a role model for children???

Unfriendly
Unfriendly
October 9, 2016 9:35 pm

Randy says: “Hillary presents a better role model as president to children and young people.”

LOL!!

Dude – she is getting her ASS kicked!

And you my friend, may have just hit rock bottom:

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EL Coyote
EL Coyote
October 9, 2016 10:34 pm

OMG, an Admin and Uncivil tag team against randy.
Will randy fold and run back to ZH?

randy
randy
  EL Coyote
October 9, 2016 10:56 pm

Nope, but I’m not sure its fair to continue this unrelated banter in Uncola’s thread…

randy
randy
October 9, 2016 10:55 pm

Trump was incoherent…

The media for some reason are giving him credit…

The moderator made Hillary go first on the “speeches to Wall Street” leak…her answer wasn’t good, but wasn’t bad. Everyone knows that everyone has two fricken faces…sometime more…One for the boss, one for the wife, one for the kids, one for the mother in law, and one for the police.

Trump, in the perfect position commenting after Clinton, chose to talk about his income taxes, and himself…

After the whole world was waiting for these speeches….

Complete idiot….

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
October 9, 2016 11:00 pm

Univision calls it for Hillary. Kiss your asses goodbye.
Trump sued them, I’m sure that won’t affect their impartiality.

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  EL Coyote
October 9, 2016 11:07 pm

I for one believe both Univision and Randy engage in Clownism. It so divisive in our country and patently unfair that both Mexicans and Canadians are allowed to express their clownist bias within our borders and without challenge. Where is the unity?

randy
randy
  Unfriendly
October 10, 2016 12:57 am

HAHAHAHA….

Your borders? Without challenge?

HAHAHAHA….

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  randy
October 10, 2016 1:00 pm

Alas, my irony escapes Randy. I should have known. Sigh.

Bea Lever
Bea Lever
October 9, 2016 11:37 pm

Trump and Harpy both lied like bitchez BUT when Trump threatened the old bag with arrest, that was the best WWF moment in American politics in my lifetime. You should be bright enough to know Harpy will never go to jail but it does make good theater.

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
October 10, 2016 12:50 am

The lord of the flies has cast his vote. Last time it was Obama with a fly on his face. This time it was Hillary. Done deal.