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The Real Battle, is The Battle For Your Mind.
Researchers and political analysts frequent CTH because we bring you hard, factual, and fully cited research enabling you to make up your own mind about the headlines.
What you are about to read (and see) below is a fully cited example of something we have discussed frequently, but withheld until today, so the oppositional forces cannot change strategies in their attempts to manipulate your mind.
It is now time to lay all media polling naked for you to grasp. Everything below is fully cited so you can fact-check it for yourself. However, we present this with a disclaimer: the entities exposed will industriously work to change their approach from this day forth.
You have probably seen the latest example of the media claiming a released presidential poll from NBC and The Wall Street Journal as an example of Hillary Clinton expanding to an 11 point lead in the weekend following the “controversial” leaked tape of Donald Trump.
The claim is complete and utter nonsense. Here’s the proof.
We begin with a google search showing hundreds of media citations referencing the NBC/WSJ Poll:
And here’s the NBC link to the poll, and the NBC Link to the pdf of the poll, and the NBC Poll itself in a scribd pdf:
Transparently the poll is manipulated with: a) a small sample (500); and b) the following ideological make-up:
- Republican and Republican leaners 36%
- Democrat and Democrat leaners 43%
- Independents 12%
By itself that ideological snapshot is silly. Nationally the party registration is roughly 27% (R), 32% (D), and 40% (I) – SEE HERE – However, the polling sample is the least of the issues for this deconstruction.
Arguing about the construct or methodology of the poll is typically what most people do when they are refuting a media poll. That aspect alone is not the big story.
Look at the polling organization:
Do you see: Hart Research Associates/Public Opinion Strategies?
Hart Research Associates is headed up by Peter D Hart (founder), and Geoff Garin (President) – SEE HERE
Now look at what role Geoff Garin, Heart Research Associate President, is currently occupying (link here):
OK, so Mr. Geoff Garin, the President of Hart Research and Associates”, is currently working as “a strategic adviser for Priorities USA in support of Hillary Clinton’s election“. Gee, I wonder why the media never tells us that part?
See the issue?
Wait, we’re not even close to finished. It gets better.
Let’s take a look at the recent financial connection between, Geoff Garin, Hart Research Associates and Hillary Clinton’s Priorities USA Super-PAC.
For that information we turn to FEC filings -HERE-. What do they indicate?
On Page #118 of the September 2016 (most recent) filing we find a payment for $178,500 (screen grab above)
On Page #92 of the same September 2016 (most recent) filing, we find another payment for $42,000 (screen grab below)
- $220,500.00 in the month of September alone paid by Hillary Clinton’s Priorities USA Super-PAC to Hart Research Associates.
- The President of Hart Research Associates, Geoff Garin, is working for Hillary Clinton’s campaign.
- NBC (S Burke) and The WSJ (Murdoch) contact Geoff Garin (Hart Research Associates) for the post-debate poll data they will use on the day following the debate.
- Hart Research Associates provides a small national poll sample (500) result, with skewed party internals, showing Hillary Clinton +11 points.
Do you see now how “media polling” works, and why we advise to ignore it?
The real battle is for your mind…
by Karl Denninger
OK folks.
You know about that nice NBC/WSJ “poll” that shows that Hillary is up 11, right?
Well, CTH deconstructed it. It wasn’t very hard to do, and it showed the usual media bias in the sample, which is a problem standing alone. But then we get into why the bias existed, and it’s not so simple as it first appears.
What CTH managed to find is that the organization that ran the poll is an organization run by a man who currently is a SuperPAC operator for PrioritiesUSA in support of Hillary Clinton, and was involved in a similar one for President Obama.
In other words the so-called “media poll” wasn’t actually run by NBC and the WSJ, it was run by a SuperPAC dedicated to Hillary’s election.
The reason for the intentional bias in the poll’s sample is now obvious — and ought to have been reason enough for both NBC and the Wall Street Journal to refuse to run it at all.
THAT is outrageous. But it gets better — Hillary’s campaign paid this organization over $200,000 in September alone!
Is that legal, given that SuperPACs are not supposed to coordinate with a campaign? Maybe. It depends on what was bought.
Is it legal for a SuperPAC to run a poll and bias it on purpose? Sure. Hell, SuperPACs (and campaigns) run biased messages all the time — that’s what political advertising is!
But SuperPACs, like all other “independent” groups and the campaigns themselves are required by law to disclose who is paying for the communication so that the people have some chance of discerning what is “objective” and what is obviously and intentionally biased for political purposes. That is why you hear “I’m …. and I approve this message.” Candidates and SuperPACs don’t include that because they want to, they include it because it’s illegal to put forward said communication without that notice.
A “news” organization that is patently used with their full knowledge and consent to present an electioneering message to the public that originates in this fashion without any disclosure whatsoever quite-arguably violates the law and in addition such advertising (which is exactly what it is when the content is not a “poll” but instead is an engineered communication from a SuperPAC) certainly appears to constitute an in-kind campaign contribution to the campaign that it promotes by the “news” organization in question.
Why do we put up with this crap again and where are the damned handcuffs?
The FBI have them and they’re biased or compromised as well.
Because the electorate as a whole is ignert.
And the handcuffs are in the form of EBT cards and Obamaphones.
“Fuck handcuffs. Round up all the media whores and EXECUTE them all!!”
My name is Stucky, an I approve this message.
In all seriousness, that article made my day. I saw the headline in the Star Ledger when I got my coffee this morning, and I was really fucken depressed. I know polls lie but I thought … ELEVEN PERCENT!!!! …. no one can lie that much.
Shows how naive I still am.
Admin, what do you think of the Clinton’s son issue? My husband made the point that if this young man really is Clinton’s illegitimate son, he would already be dead.
http://www.infowars.com/banished-the-untold-story-of-danney-williams-search-for-his-father/
The Russians who are 100% behind Trump show Hitlery up by 6 points.
Where …….. in Russia?
Sort of hard for Russia to conduct a legitimate political poll in the United States.
But FWIW since you bring in foreign sources https://www.thelocal.se/20160927/heres-what-americans-in-sweden-think-of-trump-and-clinton
Only useful idiots pay attention to political polls. The polls are at least as corrupt as the politicians.
We continually show how stupid we are by realizing that we as a group are more informed and better critically minded. Lets face it America out there is stupid. This has been proven over and over. The latest tweet, Facebook entry, news output and generated bullshit is in their ears and eyes. 50-% of the populace is on some sort of dole and want the game to freebie continue. The rest is so fucking busy they do not have the time to go past sound bites and the nightly CNN bullshit. So what we have is a cluster fuck of information which the ignorant sheeple believe the latest crap put out about whomever. The game is fixed and rigged for the worthless cunt to win because the powers that be, who control the media, want it that way. This has been proven over and over with their emphasis in headlines and stories where lies win because truth is pushed down and forgotten. Face it we are screwed. The fix is in. the market will be manipulated until after the election, and the winner will be the lying cheating, corrupt cunt because that’s what they want to keep the casino open and rolling. Bend over the high hard one is coming and no matter what you say or do it will happen !
The polling fraud continues.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-10-11/first-post-debate-poll-gives-hillary-significant-lead-and-familiar-problem-emerges
Hilary is a twat.
Trump is a clown.
Most of the electorate are willfully ignorant sheep.
Deep down I think it highly probable that in one month Hilary will be elected.
What are you lot going to do then?
Push for political opposition as much as can be accomplished.
What would your lot do if Trump is elected?
I’ll bet it centers around all sorts of violence and disorder, maybe I’m wrong but maybe we’ll get to find out.
The use of fraudulent polls is to discourage would be Trump voters from bothering to go vote for a lost cause. They’re also put out there to create a false expectation about the outcome that will be useful cover for voter fraud. After all, it’s a safe bet that some precincts will have 100% or more that vote for filthy hillary.
This election is sort of like America’s version of Brexit, and the floaters on top will pull every dirty trick they can find to continue business as usual.