What Does The Trump (And The Republican) Win Mean For Gun Rights?

Originally Posted at Free Market Shooter

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There’s no question that the Trump win was a boon for gun rights.  Hillary Clinton was an openly anti-gun candidate who appeared to not believe in the Second Amendment at all.  She was committed to stacking the Supreme Court with justices who were against gun rights, and pushing for legislation for increased gun controls.  Meanwhile, Trump was endorsed by the NRA and consistently stated his position as a champion of gun rights, promising for a slew of gun rights bills in addition to pro-2A Supreme Court nominations.  There were likely many voters in this election who were so concerned with gun rights that they simply felt they had no choice but to vote for Trump.  In swing states like Florida, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan and Wisconsin, gun rights voters coming out in force could have been the difference between winning and losing.

It is important to note that Trump has historically not been friendly to gun rights.  In his 2000 book, The America We Deserve, he called out Republicans who “walk the NRA line” and “refuse even limited restrictions” on firearms.  He seemed to be supporting a ban on “evil black rifles”, and using nomenclature that has been commonly used by the gun control crowd to denigrate their owners.  A flip-flop of these proportions is quite epic, and it is worth questioning if Trump merely did it to gain the necessary support to win.  While he could be a wild card for gun rights, and his position supporting them cannot be taken for granted, let’s examine the proposals put forward by Trump’s team, and see what could be in store for gun rights.

At the top of Trump’s agenda is enforcing laws already on the books and addressing mental health issues related to gun ownership.  Those are the most basic of measures that are agreed upon by almost everyone in this country, and not indicative of any meaningful change to expand gun rights.  Also, his agenda consists of inaction on gun/magazine bans, and federally mandated background checks for every purchase; however, in light of both Trump’s win and Republican control of both houses, those two were not going to happen.  Still, there is much more to Trump’s agenda, and he has clearly listened to input from the gun rights groups who voted for him in shaping his policy.

What I believe is the agenda item of utmost importance to gun rights is “National Right to Carry”, or “National CCW Reciprocity”.  Trump’s proposal outlines the following, which I agree with 100%:

NATIONAL RIGHT TO CARRY. The right of self-defense doesn’t stop at the end of your driveway. That’s why I have a concealed carry permit and why tens of millions of Americans do too. That permit should be valid in all 50 states. A driver’s license works in every state, so it’s common sense that a concealed carry permit should work in every state. If we can do that for driving – which is a privilege, not a right – then surely we can do that for concealed carry, which is a right, not a privilege.

This is of particular concern to CCW holders in the Northeast US, where states typically do not have reciprocity with one another.  Though gun owners need to be aware of all state laws whenever they carry concealed, police have been known to target CCW holders for pullovers, particularly in New Jersey and Maryland.  These states are encouraging targeted arrests that often lead to felony records and jail sentences.  Instead of fighting crime, they are instead harassing otherwise law-abiding gun owners who merely made a stupid mistake by not being aware of local gun restrictions.  If driver’s licenses and gay marriages can be recognized across state lines, there is absolutely no reason CCW permits can’t fall into the same domain.

Trump’s list also includes rescinding bans from military personnel carrying firearms on bases and at recruiting centers.  This seems like a no-brainer to me, though I don’t know the particulars on why a ban would be necessary.  If any military personnel have feedback on why this would be a bad idea, feel free to send it along, and I will update this article accordingly.

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Of lesser importance to CCW Reciprocity, an item not on Trump’s list is the removal of suppressors from the NFA Act.  Since 1934, they have been subject to an NFA stamp, which requires a $200 dollar fee for transfers, not including the lengthy and expensive process for NFA registration.  Falsely referred to as “silencers” by gun control groups, Hollywood movies have long led people to believe these additions can actually silence a gunshot.  The above chart is for a Ruger 10/22 (.22LR), which is an extremely weak caliber, that can still only be reduced to 115db.  The reduction on a 160db pistol shot might still require hearing protection, and rifles can often be even louder, and decibel reduction can only be so significant.  Reductions for common calibers such as 9mm, .45, .223 Remington and .308 would not get a shot down to anywhere close to the 115db in the weaker .22LR.

Don’t believe me?  See it for yourself.

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I’ve also included an example of the differences in power between subsonic and supersonic rifle ammunition, so you can see how much performance is impacted by the weaker ammunition necessary for proper decibel reduction.

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Contrary to popular belief, suppressors are only effective in reducing sound to the point where earplugs aren’t necessary.  They are most commonly used by hunters as a convenience, to not only make hunting without earplugs possible, but to avoid disturbing those nearby with excessive gunshot noise.  Of much greater tactical importance is the function of flash hiding… but that can be accomplished with muzzle brakes and flash hiders already legally available on the market, without NFA restriction.  If a Trump administration can remove Hollywood’s influence behind the unnecessary regulation on these items, it will be a major win for gun rights, and will hopefully lead to the removal of other unnecessary firearms restrictions.

Finally, repeal of Obama executive orders which unfairly targeted firearms and ammunition should be another no-brainer.  The only thing these EOs have accomplished is to pile the red tape unfairly on gun dealers, putting some of them out of business in the process.  Focusing on revoking licenses for low-volume sellers, they’ve done absolutely nothing to combat illegal gun ownership, and have focused on making the process excessively burdensome.  It is another no-brainer for Trump to do this, and it can be accomplished with his signature alone on day one of his Presidency.

Still, gun rights advocates should not feel confident in their victory this election cycle.  Trump is still a wild card, and given his prior statements, no one really knows what he will do for gun rights when he takes office, and he could even put in more gun controls as part of a “grand compromise” on guns.  Gun control advocates will still work at the state level to restrict gun rights, and Bloomberg will do his best to accomplish this with tens of millions of dollars in spending on state initiatives, like the one that just passed in Nevada.  Notably, Bloomberg and his gun control groups are experts in using a particular 12 buzzwords to scare the uninformed into agreeing with gun control, and obfuscating and falsifying the statistics, using five particular tricks to falsely inflate them.  It is important that gun rights advocates not take solace in their victory, and instead use a Trump administration and Republican congress to finally strengthen our position after years of attacks on our rights.

Who knows… maybe a law can be passed stating that Hollywood movies have to accurately portray suppressor gunshot noises in their movies.  Because to this point, the only accurate movie portrayal of sound suppressors was in US Marshals.  Its “just a movie”, right?  It is, but only if you don’t believe it isn’t real life, and use its presumption of reality to push for gun control.

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Note: I am again sharing two articles linked above, because I highly recommend reading and sharing them, especially if you do not know or understand how gun control groups falsify the truth to push their agenda. 

12 Buzzwords Liberals Use To Scare You Into Agreeing With Gun Control

5 Tricks Gun-Control Advocates Play

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starfcker
starfcker
November 23, 2016 5:06 pm

Dumb article. You’re not going to get silencers out of a Trump administration. Give it up.

unit472
unit472
  starfcker
November 23, 2016 5:43 pm

You maybe right but that is because they are called ‘silencers’ and people equate that with movie scenes where a killer can shoot someone silently and leave the scene unobserved.

Hollywood and the ‘left’ have probably won the battle over silencers though, if reducing murders were their objective, and it isn’t, banning telescopic sights would make more sense since shooting someone 200 meters away is, tactically, a better solution than shooting them from 2 meters away with a “silencer”. JFK would have lived had Lee Harvey Oswald had nothing but a silencer available to him.

However, as Steve Sailer has pointed out, the main objective of liberal gun control laws is too inconvenience and criminalize as many law abiding white gun owners as possible in the hope that a few negro thugs will run afoul of the same laws and get locked up.

In practice we know this doesn’t happen because inner city courts and the Obama administration don’t want an 18 year old thug caught with a pistol in his pants to get 5 years in prison and a lifetime ban on voting! Much better to keep a rural white guy whose ex girl friend claimed he hit her from owning a hunting rifle.

MN Steel
MN Steel
November 23, 2016 6:21 pm

First you take a right you were born with (the right to defend yourself, unconditionally) and sign it away for permission (a permit to carry, nationally or otherwise) so the KGB-uniformed thugs don’t pop your ass.

Later down the line, your “permission” is revoked, and the KGB-uniformed thugs can pop you at will.

So goes the terrible march of tyranny…

Anonymous
Anonymous
November 23, 2016 6:31 pm

Silencers above the .22 LR calibers aren’t really silent, but they can reduce a .222/5.56 caliber to around a .22 LR sound level.

I’ve seem .308 reduced to a level that can be tolerated by unprotected hearing and the lighter .30 calibers (i.e. AK and whispers or blackouts) to comfortable levels. I’ve never heard a silenced shotgun but imagine they would make duck hunting easier -and safer- on the hearing.

Above that, in any of the magnum calibers I’ve heard you still need some hearing protection if you’re close but at least you don’t end up irritating the neighbors with the sound of gunfire (something important to consider with rural ranges being encroached on by new nearby housing developments).

There is no crime that has ever been stopped by laws against silencers, other than in movies or leftist imagination, and they are not used in criminal activities outside of, possibly, covert or military operations done by assorted government agencies abroad.

Many European nations have no laws against “silencers” and it makes no sense to have them here.

(Keep in mind that I have only heard a limited number of them among all that are available and don’t own one since the final cost of registering, buying and fitting one to a gun is high enough to make me think about all the other things I need to spend the money on.)

Desertrat
Desertrat
November 23, 2016 6:32 pm

Trump’s sons are strongly pro-2A, and he has acknowledged their influence.

Hiram Maxim invented the suppressor, but he called it a silencer. Note that the English have always called a car’s muffler a silencer. IOW, don’t let the purists bother you with trivia.

There is a bill in waiting in Congress to take suppressors off the restricted list. Rumor has it that no action has been taken because of an Obama veto.

starfcker
starfcker
November 23, 2016 7:39 pm

Think this through. All Trump has to do is make sure he gets his supreme court picks right, and everything will be fine. Nothing else rises to the presidential level. Nothing. This is as dumb as Eric Peters thinking if we just got rid of airbags. This is silly. We got a lot more pressing things to deal with. Really.

MN Steel
MN Steel
  starfcker
November 24, 2016 12:50 am

Perhaps the ultimate goal is something you won’t even bear to consider.

http://alt-market.com/articles/3067-order-out-of-chaos-the-defeat-of-the-left-comes-with-a-cost

James
James
November 23, 2016 8:37 pm

How about we just get rid of permits nationwide and folks carry the way the 2nd intended,i.e. when one personally chooses to?

Overthecliff
Overthecliff
November 23, 2016 9:23 pm

Trump backed awa from prosecuting Hellery. Will he back awa from 2A? Who knows. We knew what Hellern was on Election Day . Trump was a crap shoot. Will it be 7 or 11 or snake eyes?

BB
BB
November 23, 2016 10:41 pm

Some Oil filters work just as good.Google it.

ragman
ragman
November 24, 2016 10:15 am

All federal gun laws should be abolished…..”shall not be infringed”.