Mr Trump – Make the Police Accountable

Guest Post by Martin Armstrong

police-ncTo Mr. Trump;

If you really want to demonstrate that you do stand for the all people, begin by making it clear that any police office who kills a citizen like this in North Charleston, South Carolina will no longer be tolerated. Police officer, Michael T. Slager, was arrested on a murder charge after video surfaced of him shooting eight times at 50-year-old Walter Scott as he ran away. The officer in this video does not even think twice about shooting someone in the back.

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Yes he was caught. But how many murders take place without a video by a third party? He shoots a citizen in the back without hesitation because police are routinely cleared. First, there should be a separate department in Washington that investigates shooting by police. Having his buddies investigate him by the same local office is a conflict of interest. There should be a separate department in Washington. Then, and only then, will police think twice before shooting.

This video is of a woman pulled over for a traffic stop and tries to flee as the police is trying to arrest her when she has 5 kids in the van. They open fire on the van as it pulls away. Nobody was killed, but there is no hesitation to open fire. This is what is wrong. They immediate start shooting.

This is also not a race issue. It appears to be a power-trip problem. The protest at Malheur National Wildlife Refuge over the government’s claim to land has ended in bloodshed. The police opened fire on unarmed white people in a SUV with children and kept firing. They outright killed a man when he got out of the SUV with his hands up.

amadou-dialloThere was the murder of Amadou Diallo, 22, back in 1999 in New York City. The police gunned him down when he had no gun, they thought he might be going for a gun when it was his wallet and they murdered him shooting him 41 times. Two of the Police Officers Edward McMellon, 26, and Sean Carroll, 35 didn’t stop firing until the 16-bullet cartridges in their 9-mm. handguns were spent. Three of the cops have been involved in prior shootings, one of them a Halloween incident that left a man dead. If they can kill citizens, even unarmed, then unless this becomes a federal crime that is SOLELY investigated by a special department set up in Washington, DC that has no local conflict of interest, then these wild cops will have not restraint. The police who really wanted to help society should demand this type of reform for people are looking at them with the eyes of actions by the wild police who shoot out or power of ignorance.

I have friends who were police 25 years ago. They NEVER acted like what we have seen over the last decade. It seems they like to hire the crazy veterans from Iraq or Afghanistan who seem not to have made the transition to civilian life very well. This is not a war zone where they get to shoot whomever for fun. Police MUST be criminally charged and put on trial. This has to stop. Just being pulled over for anything even I have to taker pause because there is a growing chance you are confronted by a lunatic with a gun on some power trip.

As local governments are broke, they themselves push the police or more tickets solely for revenue. The pump up these guys and they view the people as a presumption of being hostile or a criminal. This has got to stop.

There should be no movement that Black Lives Matter – it should be All Lives Matter. We should all be on board against such outrageous police activity. It is time to set up a separate department in Washington and these murdering police should be charged by the Feds. This already violates the Civil Rights Act regardless of color.

 

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anarchyst
anarchyst
December 18, 2016 10:03 am

Here are some solutions to reign in the “bad apples” of the “thin blue line”:
1. Eliminate both “absolute” and “qualified” immunity for all public officials–not just police and firefighters. Include prosecutors, judges, other court officials, CPS and building code enforcers.
2. Eliminate all public-sector unions. Especially police and firefighter unions. Unions are not needed in the public sector, as WE, the taxpayers pay their salaries and benefits.
3. Require all public officials to be “bonded” and carry “malpractice insurance” as a condition of employment. No bond or malpractice insurance–no job.
4. Prohibit “internal affairs” investigations for all cases but those involving disputes between police officers. All investigations should be handled at the state level.
5. Prosecutors must be subordinate to the grand jury. Withholding evidence that could prove or disprove misconduct by public officials should be a prosecuted as a felony.
6. Any awards to citizens as a result of “official misconduct” should be paid out of the offending department’s pension funds. You can be sure that if police pension funds were threatened, you would see a “clean-up” in a hurry.
7. Require body and dash cams to be used at all times. No citizen interaction permitted without functioning equipment. Obtain equipment that cannot be turned off. All interactions between officials and citizens must be put on the internet “cloud” and must be publicly accessible. Tampering with equipment should result in permanent dismissal.
8. Establish a 50-state publicly-searchable database of police, fire and public officials who should NEVER hold a position requiring the “public trust”.
9. Drug testing must be mandatory for all police officers. Testing for anabolic steroid use must also be a part of the drug testing program as steroid use tends to increase aggressiveness and is responsible for many unjustifiable police actions towards civilians.
10. Police must be restricted to the types of firearms that the citizenry is “allowed” to possess. This would help “encourage” anti-gun states (New York, New Jersey, California) to “loosen up” their restrictions on civilian firearms ownership–magazine capacity limits, etc. Citizens deserve the same (or even better) firepower than police…
These solutions would go a long way in curbing the abuses that presently exist.

TrickleUpPolitics
TrickleUpPolitics
  anarchyst
December 19, 2016 11:29 am

I’ve been a public defender, an assistant district attorney and an elected District Attorney. Since the first witness against a defendant is the cop, I have a lot of experience interviewing police officers and reviewing the actions of the cops. After reading your points, it is clear to me why you have chosen the screen name anarchyst. Let me respond to each of your points.
1. The judges and prosecutors have absolute immunity so that they cannot be sued or charged when high profile public cases are decided against the powerful party. Judges and District Attorneys are elected positions chosen by the people; if they fail to gain the approval of the community they can be voted out of office. Qualified immunity is something that the US Supreme Court created so that police officers are protected against being personally liable for actions they have taken within the scope of their duties and the law. They become personally liable when they take actions that are outside the scope of their duties. The police receive constant training on the criminal law and the law of search and seizure which protects the political subdivision from liability lawsuits. They are trained in both the federal law and constitutional rights and the state law. Why? Because the states can give its citizens MORE rights but it cannot infringe on the federal constitutional rights.
2. I agree with you on public unions.
3. “No bond or malpractice insurance-no job” means no police officers or firefighters. Who in their right mind would take a job that daily requires one to take actions that may mean the difference between life and death for citizens? I can just imagine a lawsuit against a firefighter because he didn’t rescue the senior citizen on the top floor of a building engulfed in flames and the malpractice lawyers being enriched by substituting their judgment on when it’s safe to enter an engulfed building to rescue someone. The malpractice lawyers’ lobby is already the richest and most politically powerful lobby in the US. Why give them a whole new field of enrichment? Also, another point. Doctors pay outrageous amounts for malpractice insurance and some have abandoned certain specialties like OB-GYN. Without tort reform, health care has become distorted by the need to order tests that may not be absolutely required in order to protect the doctor from a negligence claim. The same thing would happen to the cost of malpractice insurance for police/firefighters and soon enough none of these public servants could afford it. They would be sued constantly just like doctors. If you had ever worked with the public you would understand this: no defendant is ever guilty, no arrest is ever lawful, no search is constitutional, no shooting is ever justified, and malice and racism are always presumed as the reason for actions taken by police/firefighters. There is a demarcation between criminal and civil law and there are separate standards of proof which is why the Juice could be found not guilty in criminal court but liable in civil court using the same evidence. The standard of proof in civil cases usually only equates to probable cause to arrest in criminal cases, but the burden for a conviction is “beyond a reasonable doubt”. The burden is always on the state, the burden of proof is heavy, the prosecutors are bound by law and ethics as are the judges, and convictions can be appealed and reviewed by state and federal courts.
4. I disagree that all ethical disputes should be handled by a central Internal Affairs at the state level. This elevation ensures that only the most egregious cases will be sent up, in contrast to ethical breaches that can be handled quietly by the law enforcement unit, and each case will become a public football. The press will fasten on these cases like a leach and the constant publicity means that the journalists and the public will be judging them with no legal knowledge. There will be no presumption of innocence, the officer’s reputation will be gone, and the state level elected officials will bring political pressure like you’ve never seen because each of those cases will be decided by an executive unit for which they are responsible. State governors tend to take a dim view of assuming responsibility for the outcome of this kind of cases.
5. The elected District Attorney, by virtue of his job, CANNOT be forced to prosecute cases not of his choosing. He is the lone decider. He cannot be forced by judges, the Governor, the state Attorney General or anyone else to file a criminal case. He is elected to bring his ethical and legal judgment on which cases merit the devotion of his meager resources. As a prosecutor his actions are subject to review by the judges and in the case of trials by the jury. As a lawyer his actions are subject to the disciplinary board and there are separate set of ethical canons established just for prosecutors. Criminal felony cases at least require a preliminary hearing so a judge can decide whether there was probable cause for arrest. That is a step that ensures that neither the DA nor the police have overstepped the law. Grand juries are members of the community who are not lawyers and have no expertise in the law, and their identity is never exposed to free them to make the hard decisions. District attorneys also call for Grand Juries in cases where they want to test the public’s attitude toward a shaky case: if the Grand Jury is not unanimous (it only takes a plurality to indict), the criminal jury will almost certainly not be unanimous. The DA will also want a Grand Jury in a publicly contentious case to share the political pressure from the community to prosecute. The conviction for a crime requires a unanimous jury, and the DA is bound by his ethical duty to ONLY charge those cases where he has reasonable belief that he can prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt. The ethical duty of the DA is to ensure that the defendant receives a fair trial. The DA is required by law to present exculpatory evidence that might absolve the defendant or reduce the charges. I hope you can see there are many levels and steps where the criminal justice system has checks and balances that favor the citizen. As for cops who lie, once they earn that reputation they are useless in court and the DA is barred from using them to present a case. If the DA refuses to prosecute their cases or call them as witnesses the department will soon be rid of them.
6. Paying settlements out of pension funds would not only empty the pension fund but would spread the blame to every person who contributes to the fund. Shared blame is not our system.
7. Body and car cameras and many police welcome them now for three reasons: to protect them from the inevitable claims by the arrestee that the arrest was unlawful and that they were assaulted by the police, it may cause the perp to rein in their aggressive behavior, and it produces positive evidence for the trial.
8. I don’t agree that all police interactions should be publicly accessible. They are already accessible to the defendant’s lawyer. Allowing the public to review these cases before a trial would destroy any hope of seating an impartial jury.
9. I don’t know if a database is the answer, but it is true that often bad police officers are often shuffled off to other departments with a favorable recommendation. That practice is a foreseeable outcome of the courts’ decisions that the officer has a property interest in his employment. Bad cops will sue the department for giving a bad review. Legal protection regarding this matter would be useful.
10. Drug testing is already required as a prerequisite to hiring and may be done randomly thereafter and certainly when there is reason to believe the officer is using. Add anabolic steroids to the list of drugs that are tested for is not a problem.
11. As public policy, arming the citizenry and making more available the same kind of firepower the police have will encourage shootouts and that is not a good policy. Our policy now is to submit to the arrest and argue the matter in court. The right to own a gun is protected by the federal constitution, so states can only give additional freedom to own guns, but they cannot give citizens less freedom to own a gun. The US Supreme Court has ruled many times that even constitutional rights are not unlimited but subject to reasonable regulation, hence our ongoing public debates about what constitutes reasonable.
I am not trying to make the case that all police shootings be justified, but there is already an intertwined system to control the issues you have brought up.

anarchyst
anarchyst
December 18, 2016 10:05 am

There is much angst and consternation against prosecutors and grand juries who refuse to bring charges against police officers, even when incontrovertible evidence is presented. Even with incontrovertible audio and video evidence, prosecutors are loath to prosecute rogue law enforcement personnel.
Let’s examine the reasons why it is so difficult to prosecute thug cops:
Most prosecutors are former police officers or have extensive dealings with police departments and have ongoing relationships with police departments in their respective jurisdictions. They are friendly with the judges in their jurisdictions, as well. This, along with “absolute immunity” makes it easy for them to “cover up” police abuses and behavior. Prosecutors cannot be sued for malfeasance…it takes a judge (who prosecutors are friendly with) to bring charges on a rogue prosecutor (which almost never happens).
In addition, prosecutors guide the actions of grand juries. Prosecutors are not required to introduce any evidence to grand juries, (can and do) easily “whitewash” the actions of rogue cops. On the other hand, prosecutors can (and often do) go after honest citizens who seek justice outside official channels…prosecutors have ultimate power and are not afraid to use it…their immunity sees to that.
Another aspect to a grand jury’s inability to prosecute bad cops is the fear of retribution…cops drive around all day, have nothing but time, have access to various databases, and can easily get the names and addresses of grand jurors…this, in itself can be a powerful deterrent against grand jurors who “want to do the right thing” and prosecute bad cops. There are many cases of cops parking in front of grand jurors’ residences, following them around, and threaten to issue citations to them, in order to “convince” them to “make the right decision”…the “thin blue line” at its worst…
The whole system has to change.

starfcker
starfcker
  anarchyst
December 18, 2016 1:20 pm

“Most prosecutors are former police officers” antarchyst c&p. Total bullshit. Police officer and prosecutor are totally different career paths, educationally and intellectually. Keep preaching for people to act like fools in their contact with cops. You’re helping nobody. Lavoy Finicum was not shot with his hands up, he was shot reaching into his jacket, where, lo and behold, he had a loaded pistol. The video from the helicopter is crystal clear. He was itching for a gunfight. It cost him his life.

Wip
Wip
  starfcker
December 18, 2016 7:37 pm

Come on Star, you have to admit the 10 item list Antarchyst posted makes sense.

I got pulled over for speeding and the cop ran his finger down the side of my car as he approached. Why did he do this? I have been told it is a way to plant drugs (or drug residue) on the car “in case” they want to search my car but need a dog to alert.

There are definitely bad cops that need to be eliminated from the job. How do you suppose we do this?

starfcker
starfcker
  Wip
December 18, 2016 8:32 pm

Wip, some of them do. I’m always in favor of holding people accountable. I like number #8 for sure. Anarchyst and I have batted this around a bit for several years, there are two sides to this, no question. But Martin uses some really bad examples in his piece. Behave in the ways described, and really bad things could happen to you really quick. And in these cases, it did. Cops touch your car simply in case they get shot, that fingerprint proves that car was involved. And with dashcam, detectives know right where that print is. Everyone on this site gets a hard on for people who get defiant and mouthy around cops. Escalation of any encounter with cops is a seriously bad idea. Polite and respectful isn’t the same as kneeling to them, the golden rule seems to work perfectly. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Treat them with respect and that’s probably what you’ll get in return.

TrickleUpPolitics
TrickleUpPolitics
  anarchyst
December 19, 2016 11:37 am

I am pretty sure you have no evidence other than anecdotal that “most” prosecutors are former police officers. Judges cannot bring charges against rogue prosecutors. They however can take a number of other actions: throw the case out, throw the prosecutor out of his court, throw the prosecutor in jail for criminal contempt, and demand that the DA replace the prosecutor. All assistant prosecutors serve at the pleasure of the elected DA as at will employees so the DA can fire them immediately and refer the matter to a fellow DA to be investigated as a criminal case should the misbehavior constitute a crime. The Judge can also report that rogue prosecutor to the state disciplinary board which carries great weight with the board since it is not done lightly. The disciplinary board can take away the rouge’s law license. That is the duty of the District Attorney who supervises the assistant prosecutors, and the DA would recuse himself and have the case brought by another DA or sometimes even the state Attorney General. The idea that prosecutors do not have to present evidence to the Grand Jury is laughable. The DA is required by law to present both evidence that tends to incriminate the target and evidence that tends to exculpate the target. The target (the legal term) of the grand jury investigation is informed before the case is heard before the Grand Jury and is entitled to appear and testify on his own behalf, and he is entitled to have his lawyer present to observe the proceedings (though he may not confer with his lawyer in the courtroom nor can the lawyer present evidence or question the jurors). His lawyer can challenge the indictment in front of the judge assigned to hear the criminal case at issue on grounds-that he can prove-that the indictment is legally defective. The indictment is the same as obtaining a judicial order from the judge after a preliminary hearing that there is probable cause for a reasonable person to believe that a crime was committed and that the accused committed it. You may have anecdotal evidence that bad cops have attempted to threaten Grand Jury members but it is difficult to find out who the jurors are, and you certainly do not have any facts to support your contention that this often happens. It sounds to me like you’ve had a run in with the criminal justice system and would like to blow up the whole system.

James
James
December 18, 2016 10:05 am

The interesting thing is it seems black lives matter pick the worst cases to protest,i.e. the person killed was acting/being a criminal.the case of the guy shot in back on camera(bless the dude with phone,watch your back!)didn’t get picked up.I also wonder why blm does not protest/deal with locals killing themselves with such vigor!

bad cops need to be fired/brought to justice ect.,we have militarized our police and having them practice with swat raids for a few pot plants/raw milk farms ect.,no wonder some question so much of the police,do not get me going on civil forfiture laws with no criminal charges filed,that tis a whole nother matter.

Cops MUST break the blue wall of silence if they want to actually be public servants,those that want to be bullies/tyrants,well,fuck em and their puppet masters.

anarchyst
anarchyst
December 18, 2016 10:06 am

Here are “police” practices that deserve to be exposed:

#1. During a traffic stop, the police officer will touch the back of your car. The reason for this “touch” is that, quite often, the police officer will have a small quantity of narcotics (marijuana or cocaine) on him (in his hand) that he will rub on the car in order to help “justify a search”. When the dog is brought in, it will react to “cues” from its handler as well as the drug residue on the vehicle and help “justify a search”. This tactic is mostly used against young people. Drugs can also be “planted” on a “suspect”.
The “touch” used to be a way for police officers to “prove” that they had an interaction with a citizen, but no more . . .

#2. Most (if not all) cops possess a “throwdown” weapon. This “helper” is obtained from a criminal who is then “let go” without his weapon and is always used to justify a questionable police situation and to “sanitize” a “crime scene to absolve police on the scene of criminal police behavior.

#3. If you are in the back of a police car, LIE DOWN on the seat. Police use the concept of “screening” to abuse their unwilling “passenger”. This involves, driving at high rates of speed, violent turns and other antics to get the passenger to “hit the screen” separating the front from the back with his face. Hence the act of “screening”.

#4. If you are being handcuffed, quite often the police officer will wrench you arm behind you, forcing you to “turn around”. Another “trick” is a foot to the instep, forcing the individual to involuntarily “pull away”. The officer will then add a charge of “assault” to whatever other charges they concoct against you (just for being forced to turn around). They “pile on” charges, hoping you will plead guilty to at least one.

Remember–NEVER CONSENT TO SEARCH . . . You must be polite, but firm in your refusal. You can state that “you NEVER consent to searches” as well as using these “magic” words–“am I free to go?” The police officer MUST answer your question . . . If you are being detained and an illegal search takes place, you have legal recourse.

Remember–police are not your friends . . .

That being said, not all “law enforcement” is criminal, but the “thin blue line” that they so jealously guard (and “look the other way” when rogue cops abuse their authority) does much to taint ALL “law enforcement” with having ulterior motives.

Angus
Angus
  anarchyst
December 18, 2016 6:15 pm

Having read this we all realize not all anarchists are crazy but you have demonstrated that you are the exception to the rule. Please tell us about your vast law enforcement experience.

underfire
underfire
December 18, 2016 10:48 am

First we have this:

“begin by making it clear that any police office who kills a citizen like this in North Charleston, South Carolina will no longer be tolerated.”

Immediately followed by this:

“Police officer, Michael T. Slager, was arrested on a murder charge”

So where is the killing by this officer being tolerated? Should we string him up without a trial? Maybe MA could find a better example.

starfcker
starfcker
  underfire
December 18, 2016 1:31 pm

Walter scott, the man shot by officer Slager, ran from a traffic stop, wrestled with the officer, took his taser, tasered the officer twice, and then ran. He got shot and killed for his trouble. Good shoot. A bi-racial jury cleared officer Slager of murder charges, and deadlocked on manslaughter. I don’t feel any sympathy for the other idiot, either. Did those cops put her kids in danger, or did she? We have all been pulled over and gotten speeding tickets, and somehow managed not to escalate such a simple, routine happenstance into a clusterfuck like that woman, and that woman alone created.

Angus
Angus
  starfcker
December 18, 2016 6:18 pm

You are dealing with libtards. To them the facts do not matter. That the individual assaulted a police officer doesn’t matter. That he was in violation of the law doesn’t matter. So trying to reason with them is like debating Plato with a junkyard dog.

Besides these are BLM activists. The Communist Party thinks they’re too extreme in their views.

christopher
christopher
  starfcker
December 19, 2016 4:54 am

I am a redneck cracker honkey

when i am pulled over by the police my hands are on the steering wheel when the officer walks up to the window

it is then yes sir no sir thank you sir and i go on my way and if i have been ticketed i probably deserved it

any time i am approached by a police officer for whatever reason i am respectful why ? you ask what you have to understand is the mindset of why that person is a police officer in the first place

every black person you see shot and killed was because they were being disrespectful and belliergent toward the police officer like ARETHA said RESPECT

why was travon martin killed because he believed the gansta rap shit he grew up listening to
and his mouth wrote a check his ass couldnt cash

i have no sympothy for anyone black or cracker who sticks their finger in a cops face and dosent expect swift and fatel repercussions

truth is the cops are just fed up with the knuckle dragging inbred wookies and gibons who have an entitlement mentality due to something that happened 150 years ago

Suzanna
Suzanna
  underfire
December 18, 2016 4:23 pm

Nothing against MA. Maybe a clueless worker made the data
available. IMO that S. Carolina incident was phony. After the
shooting officer #1 and then, officer #2 turned the victim over
(we saw the front and the back of the body) there was zero blood
to be seen anywhere on the shirt. I am thinking this was a stunt
to gin up anger against police for murderous behavior. The taser
the victim was supposed to have grabbed and made off with was
unceremoniously plopped on the ground thus “planting evidence.”
Goal: gin up anger, discredit police, prejudice against blacks, rile
people up, ensure violence against police…and generally, lie to the
public. If you recall, and in case the dummies didn’t “get it,” there
was an interpreter of events talking on his cell phone behind the
vine covered fence. The entire thing was a load of crappy crap crap.

unit472
unit472
December 18, 2016 10:54 am

You want to reduce police shootings then make it a felony with mandatory jail time for anyone fleeing an officer making a traffic stop or conducting an investigation. I know this won’t be popular with those here but the time to complain about police behavior or assert eschatological theories on the nature of state power is NOT when you are being questioned by a police officer. You can do that in court if you are charged or write a letter to civilian review boards if you aren’t.

Negroes in particular, view interacting with police as a game of ‘tag’. If they can run away and not get ‘tagged’ they win. Refusing to cooperate is de rigueur behavior amongst hoodrats. Expecting police officers to not get angry when forced to run after some idiot and risk their own safety is to imagine that they are not human and that ‘training and policy’ will outweigh their own emotions 100% of the time. That is a bet I would not make!

unit472
unit472
  unit472
December 18, 2016 11:01 am

Let me also point out the reverse situation. You are stopped by a thug with a gun. He demands your wallet or to search your car. Are you going to point out your rights under the US Constitution to this guy? Complain that you ‘dindu nuffin’? Try to flee?

If you are driving around late at night your chances of meeting a police officer are going to be higher than meeting a criminal. The odds are reversed if you are on foot. But the rules don’t change. Do as you are told if you don’t want trouble.

KaD
KaD
  unit472
December 18, 2016 12:40 pm
Anonymous
Anonymous
December 18, 2016 12:08 pm

It isn’t Mr. Trump’s job to make local police accountable even though Obama assumed that role for the President from the start. That is not within the designated Constitutional duties and powers of the office of the President or Executive branch of government.

And I’m getting tired of hearing more and more calls to create new and more powerful Federal agencies to take over and control every aspect of what is, in reality, a State matter which should having the people demanding the State do more to insure accountability instead of wanting to Federalize local police forces in place of the people of the State.

Leonard
Leonard
December 18, 2016 1:06 pm

This problem is more complicated than many realize. As Unit 472 has sagely pointed out, blacks frequently push the envelope too far, sometimes leading to their untimely end. While SOME of these shootings are clearly unjustified, the police have been placed in the catch-22 situation of carrying only a few force multipliers, two of which–pepper spray and the TASER–appear to be unpredictable at best, and sometimes, possibly due to unforeseen medical problems, unintentionally fatal to the unarmed suspect. Other times, they seem completely ineffective. The only other force multiplier is the officer’s pistol. The cop cannot simply back off and let a dangerous though unarmed suspect escape, he dares NOT lose a fistfight, which would likely end up with an unarmed suspect having the pistol. For most of my 60 plus years, cops carried an impact weapon of some sort–billy club, saps, batons etc. which could easily stop someone like St. Michael Brown, the “Gentle Giant”. Unfortunately, in most cities, cops can no longer carry these weapons. They’re stuck with pepper spray and TASERs for non-lethal force, and a pistol, shotgun and/or carbine for those times their spray and TASER doesn’t work. Please don’t mention martial arts, Grasshopper. All of that flying and screaming and board-breaking doesn’t work anywhere but the dojo or Hollywood. What do you expect them to do? If they’re not willing to do the job the way YOU want it done, are YOU willing to jump in and don the uniform, and shoulder the responsibility for doing the job the way YOU want it done?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Leonard
December 18, 2016 1:24 pm

Well stated.

ditchner
ditchner
December 18, 2016 1:09 pm

And while you’re at it, get rid of civil asset forfeiture. It’s nothing more than legalized theft.

Thunderbird
Thunderbird
December 18, 2016 3:56 pm

This is a symptom of a greater problem. Many in our society have moved away from our Christian roots. We are to love our friends as well as our enemies. Many now do not have this conscious knowing and therefore no longer exercise their conscience in human relations. We are all created beings that are answerable to GOD. The only solution to our social problems is a spiritual awakening.

daddysteve
daddysteve
December 18, 2016 4:01 pm

“He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance”.

Old is new again.

Moorewasthebestbond
Moorewasthebestbond
December 18, 2016 5:39 pm

Do you really believe Trump is going to reel in the police unions who openly run cover for the most brazen cop killings of unarmed citizen murders imaginable? I doubt it. Meanwhile, the taxpayer-funded steroids for cops continues!

https://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/12/hundreds_of_nj_police_firefigh.html

Angus
Angus
  Moorewasthebestbond
December 18, 2016 6:19 pm

Wow, what kind of drugs are you using?

Anon
Anon
December 19, 2016 10:31 am

You want to stop a lot of this, look no further than the people back at the office. The government bureaucrats that push these cops to do revenue collecting instead of real police work. Do you honestly think that cops enjoy traffic stops? I am pretty sure that when a kid wants to grow up and become an officer, his vision of the job is NOT sitting on the side of the road, watching cars roll by with a radar gun trained on them. Then to find the guy speeding is a dindu in some POS that feels entitled to reparations from us slave master white folks 150 years ago. No, most likely they would much rather be the equalizer when some asshole beats his wife to within an inch of her life because she had the audacity to ask him to get off the coach and get a job, or to find the degenerate that brutally beat and raped the woman walking through the parking lot from her job because “she had a pretty mouth”. Unfortunately, cops of today have become the enforcement arm for the elite pigs that want to use them as the muscle for their protection racket. The police I know are just as fed up with things as we are, problem is that they have invested a lot of time, effort and energy in a profession that has changed from being peace officers that people look up to; to an armed insurrection to enforce the elites agenda. Most of them now do the minimum they have to in order to stay employed like everyone else, in the hopes that maybe things will get better, and they can get back to real crimes.

Like any profession, there are ones that need to be removed and prosecuted, but let me assure you that the good cops know who these guys are, and while not publicly calling them out, definitely would not go out of their way to help them with their stupid. They look the other way sometimes because the higher ups will most likely throw them under the bus for political favors, and they would then be in far worse shape than if they just kept quiet. Politics of government is to blame, not the “beat cop”. Most of the departments that are dirty, like Ferguson, lost all of their quality cops a long time ago through attrition, now the only ones that were left were the ones that “towed the line” or were just collecting a check. When the rot gets that deep, the only solution is to have the state come in and dismantle the entire department and start over.

daddysteve
daddysteve
December 19, 2016 2:10 pm

Bowing to authority. That’s what made America great.