Protest songs

From Crimson Avenger at Defiant Thinking

Over the last couple of weeks, I’ve been listening to a lot of protest songs from the 60s and 70s – songs opposing the Vietnam War. They resonate as I watch Trump turn 180 degrees from the non-interventionist that he promised to be into someone dropping bombs (illegally) on a Syrian military base and threatening to start wars there and in North Korea.

Vietnam was a horrible war. We had no business going in, and the death toll was incredibly high. According to Britannica:

The human costs of the long conflict were harsh for all involved. Not until 1995 did Vietnam release its official estimate of war dead: as many as 2 million civilians on both sides and some 1.1 million North Vietnamese and Viet Cong fighters. The U.S. military has estimated that between 200,000 and 250,000 South Vietnamese soldiers died in the war. In 1982 the Vietnam Veterans Memorial was dedicated in Washington, D.C., inscribed with the names of 57,939 members of U.S. armed forces who had died or were missing as a result of the war. Over the following years, additions to the list have brought the total past 58,200. (At least 100 names on the memorial are those of servicemen who were actually Canadian citizens.) Among other countries that fought for South Vietnam on a smaller scale, South Korea suffered more than 4,000 dead, Thailand about 350, Australia more than 500, and New Zealand some three dozen.

Those are just deaths of course. There are hundreds of thousands, or likely millions, or people walking around with physical or mental injuries that will never fully heal.

I think about the Vietnam War – one that millions opposed, yet that went on for a total of 20 years – and I think about our rush into Afghanistan and Iraq (neither one resolved yet), the chaos we’ve caused in places from Libya to Ukraine, and our thirst for more. And it sickens me.

We have no national interest in any war today. And yet the politicians and the media are all behind the new President as he rushes in. And, like Iraq, the public will be ignored if they disagree.

I guess the reason for the protest songs is that I just need to hear someone say “no.” Just hear someone say this isn’t right; I don’t approve. That the toll on the lives of the young people we send into battle cannot be justified just to make our politicians look good and make our companies rich.

While there are lots of good songs, from artists ranging from Arlo Guthrie to Creedence Clearwater Revival, one sticks with me in particular: “I can’t write left handed” by Bill Withers (one of my favorite artists anyway). Take a listen, and understand that if you oppose war, you’re not alone.

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WIP
WIP
April 15, 2017 8:52 am

Fortunate Son. #1

Ed
Ed
  Crimson Avenger
April 15, 2017 9:27 am

FWIW doesn’t appear on my list of war protest songs because it doesn’t meet my standards for war protest songs. It describes the “Riot on the Sunset Strip” and doesn’t address the war at all.

http://www.laweekly.com/music/what-were-the-1966-sunset-strip-riots-really-like-eyewitnesses-look-back-7587386

Thanks for the link to the Bill Withers song.

Ed
Ed
  Crimson Avenger
April 16, 2017 9:13 am

No doubt that it’s a great song, even iconic. It just ain’t antiwar. A good book about the LA music scene is this one:

That guy had some insights about the LA music scene and its connection to US intelligence agencies that are pretty thought provoking. Talk about going down the rabbit hole….

George True
George True
April 15, 2017 9:01 am

Lucky Man, by Emerson Lake and Palmer.

Desertrat
Desertrat
April 15, 2017 9:02 am

Why Vietnam? If you don’t know of it, look up SEATO, entered into during Ike’s tenure.

Granted, it was fought way stupid.

Mike Murray
Mike Murray
April 15, 2017 10:53 am

Vietnam and the protests are not history book stuff to me, they were part of my life. While SEATO, leadership assassination, and the BS Gulf of Tonkin incident provided a path to war, there were too many lies, and the conduct of the war was pitiful. Good men dying with no political will to win.
The crap in the Middle East has been nothing more than a replay. When the first run into Baghdad was stopped on the “Highway of Death” I knew the political idiots were still in charge.
Sometimes war is not only unavoidable, it’s necessary. If a war MUST be fought, then let’s have an actual public discussion and Declaration of War. When troops are committed, let them do what the military is designed to do- kill people and destroy shit until the enemy survivors are standing in the rubble begging for it to end.
No more half-assed PC ROE.
“Business as Usual”/Chad Mitchell

“Monster”/ Steppenwolf

“Sky Pilot”/ Eric Burdon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOs3uIEyHaY

Fleabaggs
Fleabaggs
  Mike Murray
April 15, 2017 3:56 pm

Mike Murray.
Your’e right about that. There was no discussion based on truth then and there is none now except in the alt-media which we didn’t have then. In prior centuries a King or group would come right out and say We are going to build an empire and tax the crap out of everybody we conquer.
“Fighters gonna Fight Diers gonna Die”. We didn’t and still haven’t gotten that kind of straight talk. We are the only country that dresses it up in a pretty dress and calls it saving democracy and rigged free markets.
Still love CCR’s fortunate son.

Miles Long
Miles Long
April 15, 2017 1:18 pm
Miles Long
Miles Long
April 15, 2017 1:23 pm
Miles Long
Miles Long
April 15, 2017 1:42 pm

Not 60s or 70s, but still relevant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FMGv_p0TPo

Miles Long
Miles Long
April 15, 2017 1:53 pm

MOAPS (mother of all protest songs).

Benign
Benign
April 15, 2017 2:36 pm

A recent addition: “Empire’s Fool”

Administrator
Administrator
April 15, 2017 3:46 pm
Administrator
Administrator
April 15, 2017 3:51 pm