Guest Post by The Zman
For weeks, maybe months, the site WeSearchr was raising money to finance another street fight with the black clad Antifa guys. It was pretty obvious that the point of the “rally” was not free speech or to support Trump. It was an effort to have a rematch with Antifa, which kicked the crap out of the normies at the Berkeley Milo event back in February. The WeSearchr guys did everything but offer to drive the Antifa people to the event. It was such an obvious setup, it is surprising that someone did not shut it down in advance.
The social media reports from the event strongly suggest the cops were told to stand aside and let things take their course. That appears to be the style in Berkeley, where they just assume the numbers are always on their side. On the other hand, there’s a protest every day at Berkeley. It’s just part of the culture. It’s entirely possible that the level of cynicism has reached the point where the cops simply don’t care. There’s no way to know, but the Alt-Lite people seem to think the cops were told to stand down.
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From his secret lair in suburban Washington DC, Richard Spencer declared the resulting melee a win for his team, even though the people who organized it seem to hate Richard Spencer. The various schisms and feuds in the “alt” community have reached the point where it is hard to keep track of the sides. Regardless, the vanguard of the proletariat smashed the other vanguard of the proletariat, resulting in some hilarious video on social media. Judging by the coverage, it looks like Antifa was on the losing end of it this time.
Spencer is completely wrong in his assessment. He really, really wants to jam current events into his narrative of Weimar Germany and the rise of Hitler, but history never repeats itself so neatly. As the old saying goes, “History doesn’t repeat itself but it often rhymes.” The rhythms of this age have some things in common with the rhythms of past ages, but that’s as far as it goes. Spencer is not Martin Heidegger and there is no young Adolph Hitler lurking in the local art school, contemplating a political future.
More important, the street theater we see going on between Antifa and the Alt-Lite, and it is the McInness wing doing the fighting, is nothing like the street battles that went on in the Weimar days. The Freikorps battling communists were not bored college boys killing a weekend with some live action role playing and a few brews with the bros. The Freikorps were an important German cultural institution that dated to the Seven Years War. These were former soldiers, organized into a civil political force.
Comparing the ProudBoys to the Freikorps is laughable on its face and reveals a fundamental lack of seriousness on the part of Spencer. Comparing these Antifa idiots to the Spartacus League is even more absurd. German citizens after the abdication of the Kaiser thought the two paths forward were socialism or communism. Exactly no one supports Antifa’s political agenda, if they even have one. Similarly, Spencer has a following in the hundreds and no one thinks his ethno-state idea has a future.
To be fair to the Alt-Lite people, and again, it is the Alt-Lite out there doing the fighting, they just want to have their events without being harassed by lunatics. If the adults running the campuses and policing these political events did their jobs, none of this would be necessary. You really cannot blame them for taking matters into their own hands and laying into these Antifa nutters. If the people in charge refuse to do their duty and maintain civil order, then people will do it on their own. That’s an immutable fact of life.
Even so, America is not Weimar Germany. It is not even 1960’s America. The days of hard men enforcing ideological discipline on the streets are long over. The days of disaffected youth upsetting the social order are also past. Ricky Vaughn did more for the disaffected with his twitter account than any of these guys playing make believe on the streets of Berkeley. The bros had a good time beating up on the punks from Antifa and that’s not a terrible result in itself, but it is not the Spartacist uprising.
If there’s any lesson here at all it is that in the current crisis, the old tactics are more for theater and entertainment than advancing a political agenda. Going on campus to harass Charles Murray is not changing minds and it is not intended to change minds. It’s just something to do in order to show off to friends. Its bored children coloring on the walls, even though they know mom with be pissed. Since mom is not going to give them up for adoption over it, the act is just pointless, risk-free theater.
Physical violence is not risk-free.
“Similarly, Spencer has a following in the hundreds and no one thinks his ethno-state idea has a future.”
Except Israel. And China. And Japan. And pretty much all of Africa and the rest of Asia.
If it were true I don’t think NPR would spend the kind of time they do every day reassuring us that it’s all but a done deal that the US will be a polyglot nation. A guy named Farid was on this morning explaining that he “wasn’t mad” at the people who resist Whites becoming a minority, but that they’d simply have to come to grips with the reality that America will no longer be a nation with a majority (White) population and interestingly enough, that it never was.
Who knows how things will turn out.
Hardscrabble, I think america IS going to remain a white majority nation. Two reasons. One, we never voted for any of this shit, and it could only happen if we the people were gullible. Whole lot of people are awake now. They can’t unsee what they are seeing. Second, the minority state (or any minority state in the world for that matter) has a really soft underbelly, it can’t support itself. Take away the free money, and minority states start decaying almost instantly. Liberalism is morphing into insanity right before our eyes. You raise livestock, you know, that disruptive force, that inherent weakness gets culled, one way or the other. It’s as inevitable as the sunrise. Look at moldylocks yesterday.
Star, I don’t think you’re thinking so much as feeling. There can’t be any more 20 year old American-born people in 19 years than there are one-year-old American-born people now. If half of the newborns are named Mohammed, Fatima, Esteban, etc. that’s who we’re going to have. And from what I can see, 2/3 of the kids named Kevin are sons of illegals.
After you scrape away all the BS and the dust settles so that you can see things clearly, it will come down to blood and soil…as it has for thousands of years of human history. It can’t be otherwise because 20,000 -30,000 years of evolution in ice-covered Europe during the Pleistocene glaciation followed by 10,000 years of Holocene warming has encoded our DNA with an unquenchable will to fight for our survival as a people. I don’t think for a minute that European man is about to go silently into the night leaving our lands populated by low-IQ invaders from the third world who are the destroyers of civilization…but he is slow to rile and slow to hate. But once riled, then watch out and we are getting close to the breaking point. I can only pity the envious, resentful and hateful third-world invaders devouring western civilization because they really don’t see that speeding train roaring down the track.
Where European man is going to go – silently or otherwise – is up to European woman. They have half the money and all the pussy.
“…and there is no young Adolph Hitler lurking in the local art school, contemplating a political future.”
Now, how the hell would you know?
Move along, nothing to see here but little children fighting each other in the sand box…..
Not seeing it. The best way to look into the future is to look at the trends that led up to the present; the further back you go, the more clear it becomes where all this will end up. If you follow the direction of the country from maybe the ’60’s,* the loss of our identity starts as a dream and with each successive generation becomes more evident. Today with the advent of globalism, the battle lines are beginning to form, as the stakes become clear to a nation that is being forced to reject it’s identity. So yes, if you look at a slice of the present, it’s just bored kids playing with toy weapons, but if you follow historical trends, we are moving into some escalating, life threatening confrontations.
*To be clear, IMO, not all protests from the 60 ‘s were wrong, they were just steered by agenda driven forces who did not have America’s best interests at heart.
Yo. I don’t always agree with you but that comment was absolutely perfect. Well played sir.
We’re not Weimar, but it’s for completely different reasons. Germany was a defeated, indebted, desperate state. America is none of those things… yet (I know we have huge debt, overdrawn military, and massive internal problems, but the bill hasn’t come fully due. It’s like saying you’re never broke until your checkbooks empty.). When we finally have the epic ponzi scheme meltdown of social security, pensions, and welfare, then we’ll see things get much more serious. People get meaner during meaner times.
Everything will change when social mood finally (FINALLY!) rolls over.
No tree grows to the sky, even if we’ve had 35 years of nearly uninterrupted rock-ride higher.
All this high level rhetoric causes brain overloads, short circuits and blown fuses in rednecks (like me); but I do understand Cultural Communism and some of the Zionist’s evil plans; they need to be fought and defeated at the rhetoric level (over my head) and at the street level; especially since Trump has obviously been captivated (or something) by the enemies of Truth Justice and the American way. We must stop them before they can squeeze the breath of liberty out of the whole nation.
Socially and culturally at least the US is the Weimer Republic. There even is a term for it, #Weimerica
I get the idea reading this that Zman is looking down upon people.
Am I correct?
Tampa,
I think he makes some valid points. This isn’t the early 20th century all over again.
Most of this stuff is as much about mood as anything else. Mood is shifting in the west and this event is more an indication of direction but not necessarily of severity.
I don’t think it should either be exaggerated or underestimated. It should simply be observed and added to the totality of what is occurring around us politically, economically and socially. Especially socially since social mood has such an influence on both politics and economics.
And besides, we can all agree it’s fun to watch lefty get his ass kicked.
It’s all fun and games for the boys and girls until the men get pissed.
Sticks and stones may break your bones but lead will stop you dead.
“There is no betrayal on Trump’s part.”
That’s the funniest thing you’ve said in months.
“And besides, we can all agree it’s fun to watch lefty get his ass kicked.”
Modern-day liberals aren’t lefties, they’re pro-state, pro-corporate morons, i.e. the definition of status-quo centrists. I just reread an essay I first encountered in my long-ago college days (“How to Tell the Left from the Right,” John McMurtry, Canadian Journal of Philosophy 1979) that gave a useful definition of left and right: left-wing policies advocate empowering more people while right-wing policies advocate reserving more power for the few. Since the current setup drastically empowers the few at the expense of the many, liberal Democrats who continue to support Obama/Clinton policies are actually deeply conservative – most of them are just too stupid to realize it. It hardly needs to be said that those who do realize it and support the Democratic platform anyway (Obama himself, no doubt, and certainly Hillary and the rest of the Democratic leadership) are cynical and manipulative liars.
Many of the commenters here (and elsewhere, such as Zero Hedge for example) say they want greater freedom from “government oppression” (Left) but they damn sure want the government to protect their claim to private property (Right). (And don’t bother with the childish fantasy that you’ll protect your property, yourself, and your family with your huge arsenal of weaponry.) Applying a few simple guidelines like McMurtry’s to the current political discourse could help clarify a whole lot of muddled thinking, in my opinion.