Here’s The Real Reason Tesla Makes No Money

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Elon Musk bills Tesla as the pinnacle of “lean” manufacturing.  Just search for pictures of Tesla’s manufacturing plant and you’ll undoubtedly be served up futuristic looking images, like the one below, depicting 100’s of red robots building vehicles without a single employee in sight.

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But, if Tesla is truly the lean manufacturing powerhouse that it purports itself to be then we do wonder why it continues to burn through ~$600 million of cash every single quarter, or roughly $30,000 for every car that it sells?

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Perhaps this ‘anomaly’ has something to do with the fact that, as Automotive News points out, Tesla’s real ‘capacity problem’ has nothing to do with the size of their manufacturing facility but rather the staggering number of people they’re using to build their cars.

The 5.3 million square feet of manufacturing space that Tesla now occupies started off as a joint operation between General Motors and Toyota which began in 1984 and was intended to help the Japanese automaker learn about doing business in America and teach GM the principles of lean manufacturing.  20 years ago the plant pumped out over 350,000 new cars each year or roughly 74 vehicles per worker.

Meanwhile, Tesla, the ‘pinnacle’ of lean manufacturing with a 20-year technology advantage, somehow only manages to build somewhere between 8-14 cars per employee.  

It’s because in this temple of lean manufacturing, Tesla uses far more workers than NUMMI employed to build far fewer cars. In 1985, its first full year of production, NUMMI had 2,470 employees and produced 64,764 vehicles — about 26 vehicles per worker per year. By 1997, it had 4,844 ? workers and produced 357,809 vehicles — about 74 vehicles per worker per year.

Tesla, on the other hand, had between 6,000 and 10,000 workers in 2016 and manufactured 83,922 vehicles. That puts its vehicle-per-worker number between 8 and 14, about one-seventh the efficiency of NUMMI at its peak.

“The number of people Musk’s got in there has a great deal to do with why he doesn’t make money building vehicles,” said automotive manufacturing consultant Michael Tracy of Agile Group in Howell, Mich. “Toyota’s numbers reflect the number of people you expect to have if you were going to efficiently build vehicles for a profit.”

Of course, given that Musk intends to go from manufacturing 100,000 cars a year to 500,000 with the launch of the Model 3, one has to wonder whether or not that is actually possible.

The Fremont factory assembles the Model S sedan, Model X crossover and the soon-to-launch Model 3. Musk said the upcoming Model Y will be built in a separate factory.

In Tesla’s fourth-quarter earnings call in February, Musk said that once the Model 3 launches, he plans to begin producing 5,000 vehicles per week in the fourth quarter, and ramp up to 10,000 vehicles per week by 2018.

“Going from 100,000 to 500,000 units is a huge leap for any company,” said Sam Fiorani, vice president of global vehicle forecasting at AutoForecast Solutions. “For them to build a half a million units next year, it would be an amazing ramp-up for what is still a startup company. There’s all kinds of red flags.”

But, as we pointed out earlier this month when Tesla’s market cap surpassed that of BMW, Ford and GM, the market doesn’t seem to care much about Tesla’s manufacturing inefficiencies and will undoubtedly underwrite however many billions of dollars are needed to build additional manufacturing capacity.

 

And, given that the investors seem to think Tesla is worth about $800,000 per vehicle it cranks out, we see no reason why the company shouldn’t be worth $400 billion within a year or so when they start pumping out 500,000 cars per year.

 

Finally, for all the Tesla investors looking to retire off their stock gains, we have some beautiful ocean front property in Oklahoma that we think might be just perfect for you.

 

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Flying Monkey
Flying Monkey
June 14, 2017 6:34 am

But terms like “Lean manufacturing” sounds good.

It is like Fernando….”It is better to sound good than be good”.

It makes the lemmings want to buy the stock.

starfcker
starfcker
June 14, 2017 6:44 am

tylers talking their book. What did Musk tweet, hard times in shortville? Hey tylers, ever here of capex? In the same article they talk about the imminent ramp up for the model 3 (like next month) yet don’t think you have to be staffed up to make that happen? Expired puts, it’s what’s for dinner in tylerville.

unePluiebreve
unePluiebreve
June 14, 2017 6:48 am

When the government makes loans or subsidies to business, what it does is to tax successful private business in order to support unsuccessful private business.
Henry Hazlitt.

starfcker
starfcker
  unePluiebreve
June 14, 2017 6:59 am

Did henry hazlitt ever build a car? Of course not.

starfcker
starfcker
  Administrator
June 14, 2017 7:18 am

Brutal

i forget
i forget
  starfcker
June 14, 2017 4:39 pm

Did Muskellunge ever build a car? Same answer.

All’s you gotta’ do is picture the fish trophy-posing the man….
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parsonanonemouse
parsonanonemouse
June 14, 2017 6:52 am

Even 5 grand in market cap per car is excessive for fucks sake

IndenturedServant
IndenturedServant
June 14, 2017 6:53 am

You don’t need to make money when you get all those govt subsidies. Tesla is just FSA on steroids. Musk should have to give a free car to everyone with a job that pays taxes. And I’m not talking about the freeloaders who earn $20k and get a $15k tax refund.

Boat Guy
Boat Guy
June 14, 2017 7:35 am

Elon Musk , billionaire entrepreneur , successful manufacturer of modern technologically advanced products from state of the art solar panels to really cool electric cars . Couple that with his research with Space-X and you put all that in a bag shake it all up and guess what spills out ? The biggest welfare queen you can imagine !
Our so called representitives love pissing money away on shit that leaves taxpayers with bankrupt pensions and pot holes in the streets !
When I wish to support a business I purchase their product or invest in the company . When I wish to support a sports team I buy a ticket or a hat with the logo on it . As for subsidies to support private business from tax payer funds no and HELL NO !
Boat Guy did a good job for many years so come on congressman build me a multimillion dollar marina . Hey get on board with this , I will even give your brother or brotherinlaw a job and a slip for your yacht !
Shouldn’t everybody get to play ? LMAO

i forget
i forget
  Boat Guy
June 14, 2017 4:46 pm

I’ll take Mississippi Queen. She ain’t subsidized. Mark Twain’s good, too.

Anon
Anon
June 14, 2017 10:48 am

People buy Tesla for the same reason a lot of “investors” back in the day would buy overpriced rental property, and then try like hell to get on the Section 8 “list”. They got reliable cash flow from the government. I see Tesla as the same principal, as long as the subsidies continue, these people are going to keep giving this company (and other highly subsidized) a pass. One stroke of the pen though, or a fiscal “issue” with the subsidies, and watch out below….
Just like when a mortgage drone tells you “but it is tax deductible, and housing always appreciates in the long run”. Housing is grossly subsidized, and as long as that continues, the Sheep will continue buying homes on massive mortgages because the banker said they could afford it. Wait until something happens to the tax law that make the deduction go away, or interest rates go up….then trouble in paradise. Everyone needs to live somewhere, but people need to go in with the attitude that this is debt, and the only kind of good debt, is DEAD debt. Kill it as fast as you can.

Trapped in Portlandia
Trapped in Portlandia
June 14, 2017 4:19 pm

Here’s the engineering math question for the day: If you lose $30,000 on each $100,000 car you make, what is your expected profit on each $35,000 car you plan to make?

Flying Monkey
Flying Monkey
  Trapped in Portlandia
June 15, 2017 8:55 am

…you’ll make it up on the volume……

I was in manufacturing and that was always the joke to money losing business.

I worked for Bosch. They make a killing on the aftermarket business but they have very thin margins on the current products. Maybe Tesla thinks they will make money finally on the aftermarket parts.