Charlottesville is a Symptom of a Much Greater Problem in America Today

Content originally published at iBankCoin.com

So I was walking around Maine today, without a phone, totally unplugged from the world. Since I’m a personable person, quite affable at times, I conversed with lots of strangers, many people who might disagree with my ‘world view.’ Although I have strong opinions, I’m mature enough to know my ideas are meaningless time fodder, the result of theories concocted through emotional and cognitive experiences. Too many Americans actually think their ideas matter. They’re told this lie by the media and their politicians all the time, in an effort to trick people into thinking we live in a participatory democracy. Everyone is trying to ram their ideologies down the necks of others, which of course results in backlash.

The vast majority of people just want to larp around, drink something strong, and procreate. I can’t think of the last time when I thought discussing politics was a good idea for casual conversation. I did it more when I was younger, filled with vigor — stuck in the amber of idealism. I’ve always felt dreadful after engaging in political debate — even with people who totally agreed with me. It’s a time sink down the hole of extreme negativity and only serves to make people angry.

Why?

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Because government can never please everyone, which is why I believe the less government, the better.

The connectivity of our phones and social media, amplified by the media, has turned total imbeciles into activists. These people are sick and have nothing better to do than foment strife. The ‘white supremacists’ who marched in Virginia yesterday were idiots. They weren’t idiots because they had low IQs or because they wanted to express their opinions, but because they actually took the time out of their day to bring attention to themselves for a negative reason. What did they think was going to result from this?

A great man once told me, ‘if it doesn’t generate revenue, I’m not interested.’ He’d actually say that to total strangers at a bar, ordinary men asking for the time or if he had watched some sports game on the tube, which caused him to get punched hard in the face more times than I can remember. But it’s a good way to live, if you think about it.

I’d like to tie this up in a pretty bow and simply say ‘we’re all so different and America can never truly come together because of idealogical differences.’ But that’d be false. The core issue here isn’t politics, or racism, or identity politics, but the fact that ordinary citizens are getting wound up by social engineers, who are seeking to divide people, bringing out the ugliest in people. We’re all ugly, in one way or another — some uglier than others. When Americans work together and leave out politics, we produce beautiful, life changing, things. But it seems every god damned news report I read these days is talking about an angry white man, a violent black man, or an evil Russian. Naturally, if you keep fucking with people’s emotions and pride, bad things will happen.

I won’t say the news needs to accentuate the positive things in life — because they have a business to run. What I am saying, however, is that the combination of having everyone with a phone and social media account wanting to be a celebrity, coupled with an atmosphere of purposeful divisiveness, is a toxic, if not deadly, combination. At some point, I hope all people will realize that it isn’t Joe from down the block that is the problem — but Jim in DC messing up America’s legacy.

 

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unit472
unit472
August 13, 2017 12:41 pm

I think the predicate action for the demonstration was the removal of a statue of Robert E. Lee. The Unite The Right demonstrators didn’t just want to call attention to themselves they wanted to voice their displeasure at the on going effort to obliterate American history.

The American left does this not because Robert E. Lee was a bad man but because there are virtually no distinguished non white men or woman to similarly honor.

I saw a story out of the UK where the dean of a prestigious university there was going to remove the portraits of former professors and school founders because ‘They do not represent today’s students’ yet it was their scholarship and money that made the school what it is today not the Nigerian or Pakistani immigrant who enrolled last semester.

If we are not allowed to ever forget Hitler and his regime why is it OK to expunge Robert E. Lee from our history. He wasn’t a war criminal. In fact the real crime was seizing his home and turning it into a cemetery for Union soldiers killed by his army.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  unit472
August 13, 2017 8:49 pm
Anonymous
Anonymous
August 13, 2017 12:52 pm

What we’re seeing is the culmination of the irreconcilable division in America that the Obama administration deliberately created.

Not that we weren’t divided before that, ever since Clinton IMO, but it became deliberately irreconcilable under Obama.

Our nation is facing its end now.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
August 13, 2017 1:08 pm

ONLY if good men do nothing to stop the orchestrated takeover.

Maggie
Maggie
  Anonymous
August 13, 2017 1:56 pm

I am calling it the Clintonian Dynasty: End of the Republic

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
August 13, 2017 8:51 pm

Black female author wrote a book predicting the rise of the alt-right and that it wasn’t going to be about white supremacy though it would be incorrectly identified as such which will make the situation worse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7zWQmIAotg

TampaRed
TampaRed
  Anonymous
August 13, 2017 10:01 pm

Sharp lady-too bad the left will call her an auntie Mamie and the right will probably correctly say too little,too late.

MMinLamesa
MMinLamesa
August 13, 2017 12:56 pm

The normally astute Mr Gore had this to say, “…they wanted to express their opinions, but because they actually took the time out of their day to bring attention to themselves for a negative reason.”

Don’t know what the “because” is doing in there but aside from that, HTF is refusing to allow our history to be expunged & rewritten to suit the whims of a bunch of fucking fascists, a negative reason?

Further, an on the scene report-https://virginiafreemen.com/2017/08/12/charlottesville-aar/-sure raises a whole sticking catbox full of questions. Number 1 is why are the police, who must be aware they are the primary targets of Antifa & BLM, acting in such a manner?

Go quietly into the night sure doesn’t seem like you’re gonna get any relief anyway. IOW, WTF have we to lose? And it’s not like we’re doing anything but standing up for ourselves. You can bet your last donut that if these fascists had the power, they would be shipping as many of us as they could off in cattle cars.

yeah

Jake
Jake
  MMinLamesa
August 13, 2017 1:11 pm

My take away from this mess was, a bunch of Klan guys, Nazis and assorted shitheads were confronted by a bunch of Antifa Bolshevik filth, reverse racists do-gooders, SJW fools and assorted shitheads. Hey, fence it off and let ’em go at it!
All the reports, even at farking FOX call the Antifa Bolshevik filth contingent “counter protestors” implying they were just John Q. Public expressing dismay over intolerance. What a fooking joke.
I hate them all but cannot condone the total whitewash of the Communist scum as “counter-protestors.” The only guy who condemned them all was Trump and he is getting banjaxed for suggesting these assholes weren’t innocent bystanders on their way to choir practice at their church.

Miles Long
Miles Long
  MMinLamesa
August 13, 2017 8:22 pm

MM. Put down the bong.

The normally astute Mr. Gore’s byline is nowhere to be found.

unit472
unit472
August 13, 2017 1:03 pm

Its noteworthy when that MLK monument was erected on the national mall the sculptor chosen to make the King statue was Chinese.

What does it say about the state of America’s 40 million negroes that not one amongst them had the necessary talent and skill to carve the statue to honor him on the mall? Imagine if the Washington Monument had been built by a Chinese or Japanese construction company because there was no American company with the necessary skill. Why even honor a president who founded such an inept and talentless nation?

Jake
Jake
  unit472
August 13, 2017 1:20 pm

Not so sure about that. Back in the old days they would have a contest and whoever made the best statue model would be awarded the job. It would involve the entire nation as everyone could hope to make the winning model.
Today they consider all kind of ephemera and bullcrap and must find a sculptor with a graduate degree in political sculpting, yada yada puke barf. The contest is restricted before it starts.
Can you imagine the uproar if in a free and open contest a Black REPUBLICAN was the winner? (Wasn’t MLK a Republican?) Better a Chinese guy as far as “them and they” are concerned.

unit472
unit472
  Jake
August 13, 2017 4:47 pm

You’re right to the extent that it just wouldn’t do if the artist selected to make the King statue was a white American so, to avoid that humiliation, the Chinese artist was given the job.

The thing is it isn’t a very good likeness of him and looks vaguely ‘Asiatic’ and with his arms folded across his chest and still partially encased in the block of stone doesn’t at all fit in with the tradionally heroic poses in Washington’s monuments. it looks more like a model of a Mount Rushmore relief than a statue or even a man lined up against a wall about to be shot.

Rise Up
Rise Up
  unit472
August 13, 2017 9:55 pm

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DAN III
DAN III
  unit472
August 13, 2017 9:07 pm

472,

Excellent point !

Mesomorph
Mesomorph
August 13, 2017 1:08 pm

When I speak with Trump haters it is easy to get sidetracked into a debate about him as a person. I skip that part and go straight to the fact that the rise of Donald Trump is a symptom which needs to be addressed.

Symptoms of Illness

norman franklin
norman franklin
  Mesomorph
August 13, 2017 8:16 pm

Mesomorph, I went back and read your Article from the (day before?) the election. Brilliant analysis, spot on. You should write more often.

BB
BB
August 13, 2017 1:23 pm

I call bullshit : The leftist Progressives are going for the kill .They hate me ,you and everything America stands for Especially the founding Documents like the Constitution.
Most blacks are liberals ,most Mexicans don’t care and alot of white people seem to be brain dead.All it will take is another Obama being elected with uncontrollable immigration and we will lose our Republic. Once it’s gone we will never get it back.I don’t understand why that’s so hard to understand.

Aesop
Aesop
  BB
August 13, 2017 1:48 pm

So far, the only one “going for the kill” there was a mouth-breathing trailer-park 20-nothing from Ohio.

So, other than that Mrs. Lincoln, what would the whole Stupidpalooza have accomplished even without the Charger-cide?

anonymous
anonymous
  Aesop
August 13, 2017 3:50 pm

“what would the whole Stupidpalooza have accomplished even without the Charger-cide?”

Funny — I’ve been talking with customers about it all afternoon (here in flyover country). The prevailing theme seems to be “the PC stuff was going too far, but these white supremacist Nazis are even worse.”

So it’s got that going for it — bringing everyone together against the REAL threat.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  anonymous
August 13, 2017 4:12 pm

“the PC stuff was going too far”

Is that what they call assault, torture, assassination attempts, loss of employment, sexualization of children, etc. by leftists these days?

Interesting.

rhs jr
rhs jr
August 13, 2017 1:36 pm

When The Civil War was over in the 1860s, the Progressives had won; and again in the 1960s when Socialist won a Civil Riots War. Oligarchs control Congress, Industry, Banking, the MSM, Education, the MIC, an even Science. First they came for our flag, then our songs, our Christian Religion, the Constitution, our Culture and even our very thoughts and words. Isn’t it clear by now they want to take our guns and our currency and to give us The Mark of The Beast; even to send Conservatives to FEMA Camps and incinerators. Hundreds of people went to UVA to defend a statue of Robert E. Lee but the pity is that it wasn’t millions of ordinary Americans taking a stand everywhere that Cultural Communism has gone way to far already.

Aesop
Aesop
  rhs jr
August 13, 2017 1:59 pm

Counterfactual assessment fail.

Progressivism as such didn’t even exist in 1860, and claimed essentially zero adherents in America until long after the end of the Civil War.
Abolitionism, OTOH, had a rich history here back to Ben Franklin’s time, in both Britain and the US, to the point that new slaving and slavery was already outlawed in what was about to become the constitutional amendment-passing majority of the country, whereupon the South freaked out and opened fire.
We saw how that worked out.
This despite Lincoln stating that if he could save the Union and maintain Southern slavery, he would do it.

You can have your own opinions, but you don’t get to invent your own facts.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Aesop
August 13, 2017 3:16 pm

— “Progressivism as such didn’t even exist in 1860…”

Progressivism is rebellion against God and truth, numbnuts. It’s been around a long time.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
August 13, 2017 4:28 pm

And under a lot of different names.

Aesop
Aesop
  Anonymous
August 13, 2017 9:05 pm

Unless you’re Humpty Dumpty in Lewis Carroll’s Through the Looking Glass, “Progressivism” is not a portmanteau with which you can invest whatever meaning suits your fancy at a given moment.

The person who posted otherwise got the actual history wrong, numbnuts, and you’re incapable of discerning that fact even when clubbed over the head with that reality.

Rebellion against God and truth, however, is correctly denoted by the term “original sin”.
It contains Progressivism, but not the other way around.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Aesop
August 13, 2017 9:45 pm

Falling for the rebranding is what has allowed the original “progress attempt” to continue its destruction path from the beginning because people keep failing to call it precisely what it is.

The ills that fall under the in-vogue label now are the same ills that have been there from the start and nothing under the hood has changed. It keeps getting repackaged under a new hot issue, a new goal, but it’s always the same under the branding.

Aesop
Aesop
  Anonymous
August 15, 2017 12:55 am

Trying to time-warp history to suit your purposes is simple-minded silliness.
Noting that time is linear is not “falling” for anything, it’s pointing out that you can’t read a calendar.
When you can’t get basic historical ideas located in the right decade or century, you’re not a jet fuel genius, you’re a public high school graduate.
Seek a refund on your diploma.
Waving your hands and mumbling your spirit-friend’s secret name doesn’t change any of that.

Historical reality is kicking your ass.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Aesop
August 15, 2017 1:15 am

Dearest Aesop,

Thanks bunches for falling for me, again.

Sincerely,
The serpent of time.

rhs jr
rhs jr
  Aesop
August 13, 2017 5:53 pm

The Communist Manifesto was published in Feb1848 Mr Liberal and your god honest Abe was a fan of Marx and wrote to him. The War of Northern Aggression was about political freedom and financial tyranny not slavery.

Aesop
Aesop
  rhs jr
August 13, 2017 9:16 pm

1) Not a liberal. You’re not even close.
2) The Communist Manifesto, as the title might suggest to you, is a manifesto of communism. Not Progressivism, though they share some elements.
3) Abe is not my “god”, and who he wrote to is a matter of complete indifference, and entirely irrelevant to the point under discussion.
4) Last I looked, the war started when the South fired on Fort Sumter. It can no more be called “The War Of Northern Aggression” than Hitler could call WWII “The War Started By Polish Saboteurs”. Only a thoroughgoing idiot entirely unfamiliar with actual history would even try.
5) What it was about was about four years. The South, slavery, and several hundred thousand people on both sides were casualties. Trying to make sausage of all that in service of tying it to Progressivism in some recockulous Theory of Everything belongs on the call-in line of late-night nutjob FM radio broadcasts, between the black helicopters and Bigfoot sightings. If you’re going to post that nonsense here, how will you ever be able stay up late enough to call in?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Aesop
August 13, 2017 9:49 pm

Wars are started long before the first shot, and often the one firing the shot was the one on the receiving of aggression in various forms that if allowed to continue would result in their destruction prompting the need for a stronger response if there is to be any hope of survival.

Aesop
Aesop
  Anonymous
August 15, 2017 12:51 am

Right. Because reality is flexible, in your universe.
Good luck with that.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Aesop
August 15, 2017 1:17 am

You calling the The North a big ‘ol Dindu ‘Nuffin?

Bill Sturka
Bill Sturka
August 13, 2017 1:56 pm

“If it doesn’t generate revenue, I’m not interested” is a pretty pathetic philosphy. How about “Apres mois, le deluge” or “I got mine now you get yours?” We could all just do nothing and care about nothing and live happily in Soviet Amerika I guess.

Aesop
Aesop
  Bill Sturka
August 13, 2017 2:02 pm

So, looking back, and noting which video will be repeating endlessly for some days going forward, what did yesterday’s rally actually accomplish, and for whom?
Please, show your work.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  Aesop
August 13, 2017 5:54 pm

Every time the video is played I believe that it recruits more people for the right.

rhs jr
rhs jr
  Aesop
August 13, 2017 5:56 pm

It showed the tyranny and the villainy of the fascist left again.

Anonymous
Anonymous
August 13, 2017 2:17 pm
Suzanna
Suzanna
  Anonymous
August 13, 2017 7:41 pm

Agree with the militia spokesperson 100%,
Chris Dorsey (?)…I suggest/agree this event
was staged, paid for, and crisis actors were
employed.
The clue? The shoes, the pair of shoes represents
a staged event. The single shoe represents a death
or deaths will occur.
Listen to Ole Dammegard sometime. “False Flag”
rather, staged “events” are his forte’ and life’s
work. The oligarchs can steal trillions, and the
“people” are none the wiser. They certainly
can hire a bunch of contractors/and crisis actors
to fake a brawl. Look for the 3 shoes at the base
of the main picture. You’ll see shoes in every one
of these aftermath pics.

Suzanna
Suzanna
  Administrator
August 13, 2017 7:43 pm

Totally correct/great picture/narrative.

Dub
Dub
August 13, 2017 5:50 pm

Funny Admin. I will never advocate a system designed to diminish my being. What I witnessed yesterday is both groups believe they have the right to do so.

One group (until ONE PERSON got violent) was peaceful. Provocative, but peaceful. The authorities allowed the other to get too confrontational.
There is no justification for allowing these two groups to confront each other.

I’m not liking that a group I can’t stand is under attack for expressive its beliefs. They didn’t attack me personally. They want to stay away from me. They know better than to confront me. So what’s the harm.

I hate the fact that the people who share my beliefs about those people feel emboldened to attack them. They perpetrate the behavior they condemn. The irony would be humorous but for they gravity behind their behavior.

Who Else will they attack? I bow to no oppressors. Ironically, I must find rational people to align with for it is clear I am much more of a target since I won’t back hypocrites.

mike in ga
mike in ga
August 13, 2017 7:18 pm

“Dr. Fly” from the ibankcoin website wrote this article…not “the normally astute Gore” as claimed above, just to set the record straight.
This comment (by “Cricket”), is copied from that article’s comments.

Cricket August 13, 2017 at 4:27 am

Fly is very precise and 100% correct in this analysis. It is social engineering at the root of this issue.

The social engineers wish to hollow out this country so that it can be easily controlled. This begins with education, then religion, then family, then political correctness, then lastly removing all places of honour in a culture. The population becomes rudderless and at your mercy. If gradual enough it is not even noticed.

We are witnessing the near completion of the education, the religion and the family phases. We are in the midst of the PC phase and at the beginning of the places of honour phase. The US Military. West Point. Historic statues. Memorials. National Remembrance. Battlefields. Graveyards.

That is why it is so important to save these monuments. They are the physical representations of links to a shared history and honour that should bind us all together as one culture. Every nation, every culture has them and every culture has its places of honour.

I would add to your excellent and profound observations Fly, that it is not just DC that is driving this change, there are many locations, such as certain Silicon Valley oligarchs, certain financial oligarchs, etc and external nations that are trying to undermine this country. As our international enemies become stronger, this social engineering will creep upon us more and more – unless we, as a nation, wake up to the danger and do something about it.

—I share Cricket’s thoughts on retaining all the elements of OUR shared culture, good or bad. Erasing history doesn’t change it, and ignoring bullying provokes more bullying, not less. Everything that is good about America is getting its teeth kicked in. To advocate idle spectating in lieu of engaging the destroyers is not necessarily a virtue but an abdication of the responsibility we all have as free men IF we want to retain any freedom for ourselves and future generations.

I don’t know what to actually “do” yet, save keep my own affairs in order, and I certainly do not sympathize with the extremist elements carrying swastika flags, but Charlottesville is a wake-up call that no organized white conservative protest will be left unmolested.

Suzanna
Suzanna
  mike in ga
August 13, 2017 7:49 pm

All well and good. The issue to absorb isn’t
one of free speech and violence and “clashes.”
The event was bought and paid for…obviously
the Virginia gov was in on it. There will be a
prize for their “cooperation.” IF this is found
out, despite massive obfuscation, gov will say
sorry, that was just an emergency drill. Sorry
it went wrong, or some such. Don’t get suckered
into believing this crap.

anarchyst
anarchyst
August 13, 2017 7:53 pm

I grew up during the first “civil-rights” era and have a decidedly different “take” on this whole “civil-rights movement” era. In fact, I saw for myself, what went on during those turbulent times.
Despite the lies and fabrications by the so-called “mainstream media” the “civil-rights marches” in the South were not peaceful “gatherings” that were met with dogs and fire hoses, but were violent black confrontations that actually set back the “cause” of TRUE “civil-rights”. .
The so-called “civil-rights” demonstrations were waves of lawlessness that disrupted the lives of peaceful citizens. There were many black citizens in these areas that were against these “outsiders” coming there to cause trouble. These “civil-rights” marchers committed crimes, rapes, robberies and other crimes, and trashed the areas they were protesting in. I WAS THERE . . . Of course, the cameras were turned off during the episodes of violence. . .then just as now, the news media could not “let a crisis go to waste” . . .
It was mostly ACLU, $PLC and ADL types that riled things up. . .and then later on “melted into the woodwork” only to become “civil-rights” attorneys, race hustlers and poverty pimps.
One incident comes to mind–the death of Mrs. Viola Liuzzo–Mrs. Liuzzo was a Detroit housewife who traveled to the “deep south” (without her husband) to run around with “freedom riders” at night–this was a recipe that was asking for trouble. What business did she have running around with blacks at night in the South while she had a family in Detroit?? Why did she put herself “in harms way”??
I WAS THERE during the “civil-rights” disturbances and witnessed the misbehavior of these “civil-rights” groups (that never got reported). . .
Of course, the “victors” write the history. To the victors–how does it feel now that those you pushed and supported are now turning on you??
The so-called “news media” had an agenda then as it does now. White-on black crime (although relatively rare) is ALWAYS described as a “hate crime” where as black-on-white crime is NEVER described as a “hate crime”. . .Actually, ALL crimes are “hate crimes” . . .

llpoh
llpoh
August 13, 2017 8:29 pm

I could not help myself – curiosity got the better of me.. I had to see what the Daily Stormer had to say about all this.

The opening paragraph of their lead article says this:

“1) She was Fat and a Drain on Society (the actual headline):
“Despite feigned outrage by the media, most people are glad she is dead, as she is the definition of uselessness. A 32-year-old woman without children is a burden on society and has no value.” (First sentence of first paragraph)

And there you have it. That comment defines these people. This movement is doomed to fail. It cannot succeed. Decent people – and most people are generally decent – simply will not abide such a despicable viewpoint.

These people deny the dignity of life. They want women to be no more than child-bearing slaves. And if that is not possible, they deem them valueless, and a burden on society, with the implication they should be eradicated. They make the broad and untrue statement that most people are glad she is dead. Most people on the left or the right would regret her death. And that is just their position re women.

The images of many of those attending will do nothing to advance their cause. Quite the contrary. The KKK outfits, the Hitler garb, the swastikas, the Hitler quotes, the body armor, the weapons, the Nazi salutes, the skinheads – these images will hurt the movement. It will do extreme damage to the moderates wanting to retain a conservative US culture. These White Supremacists have caused irreparable damage to a valid conservative movement. A large cohort will now assemble against them: all the left, and a good piece of the right will align against them. They will have lost the support of the moderate rights.

With respect to this fellow Spencer – he claims that he wants a white nation, and he wants to come by it peacefully. That is dishonest in the extreme. The non-whites are not going to leave peacefully. They will not be relocated peacefully. The Indians know a bit about these things. He is lying – he knows his goals cannot be peacefully obtained.

This movement is doomed. As well it should be.

Aesop
Aesop
  llpoh
August 13, 2017 9:19 pm

QED

anonymous
anonymous
  Aesop
August 13, 2017 9:32 pm

I wish I could give LLPOH and Aesop a million thumbs up. This is exactly what is happening throughout America today and I’m thrilled to see it. We are finally deciding the values we hold dearest — chief among them, freedom — and standing up for what’s right. Conservatives, moderates and liberals all agree that these totalitarian alt right goons have to be stopped.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  anonymous
August 13, 2017 9:55 pm

Conservatives haven’t stood up for what’s right. The conservatives have lost ground on every single issue that conservatives supposedly stand for for 60 years.

Every institution, every policy, every cultural standard… has been handed over to the progressive left on a platter with hardly a sneeze.

You couldn’t stop leftist goons that don’t even know what gender they are, you’re going to stop alt-right goons? Not unless you’re one of TPTB and thus a servant of the Prince of this Earth until Christ returns you’re not. You’re just going to post on a board and observe.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  anonymous
August 14, 2017 1:02 am

Unite the Right: Who Got It Right?

“There is a clear pattern to these events that not one mainstream outlet has noted. There is confrontation only when anti-whites harass and try to stop pro-white events. The reverse never happens. Lefties and non-whites can mount the most brazenly anti-white events, unmolested and with full media approval. It would be hard to imagine a clearer example of this contract—and of the entrenched bigotry we face—than yesterday’s events.”

“Update: Mr. Kessler set up microphones in front of the Charlottesville city hall to make his statement. Counter-demonstrators made such a racket that it was impossible for the press to hear what he was saying. Protesters edged closer and than attacked Mr. Kessler; police escorted him away for his own safety. Once again, a pro-white message has been stifled by anti-white thugs.”

TampaRed
TampaRed
  llpoh
August 13, 2017 10:30 pm

what’s your solution,llpoh?

Llpoh
Llpoh
  TampaRed
August 13, 2017 10:41 pm

Tampa – I have posted it here many, many times. Family. Education. Hard-work. Honesty. Integrity. Thrift. Personal responsibility. The nation needs to return to those things.

And the first step is to eliminate welfare in all of its forms. I believe that welfare has lead to the disintegration of the family, a decline in education, sloth, and to the abandonment of personal responsibility.

Families need to take care of their own, and people need to assume responsibility for themselves. Abdicating responsibility to the govt has been an abject failure.

In addition, eliminating welfare will see around two trillion a year in non-productive funds turned to productive use. Millions upon millions of Americans will have to do something productive to survive.

That is my solution.

The race game, etc., is of zero consequence. It is the culture that matters. The people have allowed the culture to disintegrate. I do not care what color someone is. If they value family, education, thriftiness, and are honest and hard-working – I would love them as a neighbor. If not, not. And if you take away welfare, then they have incentive to improve themselves.

razzle
razzle
  Llpoh
August 13, 2017 10:43 pm

You say this…

— “With respect to this fellow Spencer – he claims that he wants a white nation, and he wants to come by it peacefully. That is dishonest in the extreme.”

And then you say this…

— “And the first step is to eliminate welfare in all of its forms.”

Do you expect to come by that peacefully? If so, how?

Llpoh
Llpoh
  razzle
August 13, 2017 10:50 pm

razzle – I will simply turn off the spigot. Any violence occuring – and the sheep will surely riot – is of their making. Not giving something is not the same as taking it away.

I am not proposing to force anyone to do anything. If people wish to not work, and rather starve, so be it. If they refuse to care for their families, so be it.

But the idea that people will abandon the US because Spencer says pretty please is absurd. He is surely not so stupid. He full well is trying to incite violence, or knows it would be required to drive people from their homes.

razzle
razzle
  Llpoh
August 13, 2017 10:54 pm

I just wanted to make sure you weren’t trying to pretend that your plan wouldn’t trigger an internal war and result in a lot of death and innocent people robbed, assaulted, and murdered.

Llpoh
Llpoh
  razzle
August 13, 2017 11:00 pm

razzle – to fix the issues will be painful. There is no doubt about it. But the people will never buy into the stuff being peddled using Hitler, Nazi, etc., imagery.

Not that they will embrace my proposal either. There is a lot of destruction to come before the rebuilding starts.

razzle
razzle
  razzle
August 13, 2017 11:09 pm

— “Not that they will embrace my proposal either.”

Indeed. Given the visceral reaction to the idea of Obamabank being repealed… which wouldn’t prevent anyone from getting critical medical treatment or continue to pursue the same methods they could before it existed… proposing removing free food and shelter without an existing employment glut enters into an entirely new territory of destruction.

It would also wreck havoc on Wal-Mart due to the amount that SNAP, etc plays into its already thin margins, which will wreck havoc on all suppliers to Wal-Mart, etc.

I haven’t actually seen Spencer’s suggested plan for handling demographics within the US. Do you have something you’ve read specifically you consider a reliable representation of his suggestions?

TampaRed
TampaRed
  Llpoh
August 13, 2017 11:20 pm

Agreed-and I am confident that north of 90% of the people reading this agree with you.
However Llpoh,the other side does not want what we want or believe what we believe,and they are willing to commit violence,treachery,deceit and every other vile thing you can think of to achieve their goals.
What you and I believe in will take time-at least a generation.
What do we do in the meantime?
If necessary,I am willing to ally myself with people I abhor,much as we allied ourselves w/Stalin’s Russia in WW2 so as to defeat what our leaders considered a greater evil,Nazi Germany.
What is your solution to bridge the gap between where we are now and where we need to be?
I’m going to bed-I hope I have a reply waiting tomorrow am.

edit-i type so slow that all these comments above me were posted and you partially answered me but i still believe that there will be massive violence-how do we handle it?

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
  Llpoh
August 14, 2017 12:11 am

Llpoh,

Honesty. It seems to me that a big part of what’s going on is that people aren’t allowed to be honest. The Google employee was honest and got the boot. What’s the honest answer to why the “education gap” persists? Where’s the honesty among the left when they pretend that a guy in a dress – who hasn’t even had his dick amputated yet – is a woman who has a right to special accommodations? The open borders crowd wants to conflate illiterate cross-border encroachers with PhD-holding asians who might start a company that invents a new product. That’s not honest. Since Conservatism, Inc. is no more honest on these things than the left, the Alt Right has arisen, in large part, from sheer weariness of having to pretend not to see truths – that your average Aborigine and Ashkenazi are not the same, that men and women tend to have some different attributes, that apprehension toward underclass young black males makes perfect sense, statistically.

The other thing that’s fomented white nationalism is the constant demographic triumphalism coming from the left. It’s not just the fact that the white proportion of the population is shrinking – it’s the glee with which the left touts the impending demise of whites. “You fuckers are dying off” isn’t exactly the best way to win friends.

I don’t support the white supremacists, but I understand why they’ve gotten traction. If the progs want the racists to fade (and I’m not at all sure that they do), they should stop gloating about whites’ shrinking demographics and stop the extreme PC thought-policing.

Thunderbird
Thunderbird
August 13, 2017 8:57 pm

What about the removal of the statue of General Robert E. Lee; the reason this demonstration took place? If this country was still a Republic this situation would not of happened. Democracy in the hands of ignorant uninformed people is the reason this incident happened. It seems we are headed for civil war. Negativity is driving our politics. This is not good.

President Donald Trump blasted all sides for their negativity and he is right. But no one wants to look into themselves and see this negativity.

Our country has the right to preserve it’s history. History tells us where we came from. If people can’t accept that then they carry the burden of non forgiveness of our human faults in intellect and love. God fearing people have an obligation to forgive those who trespass against us. It is laid out in the Lord’s Prayer.

The past is not the Now. The Now is our reality. In observing the Now in Charlottesville, VA. this weekend it appears that many people were absorbed in negativity acting out emotional and intellectual violence that is not in accord with our religious values.

So we have to ask ourselves what is the cause of this violence? It is surely not based on the Statue of Robert E. Lee. No. It is coming from the negativity inside the hearts of the individuals involved.

How can this negativity be diffused? It has to be diffused by the individuals involved. And this is the hard part. You see human history is a history of criminality. That is why we have to preserve it as a reminder to civilization what happens to us when we fall into ignorance.

May God help us collectively to overcome our criminal tendencies and realize our potential to become superhuman. We are not here to serve ourselves but rather to develop our minds so we can serve a higher mind in the maintenance of the universe. This may sound corny to many but it is the reason God created us.

And if the people of this country do not come together in preserving non violence in our society then we will fall into the darkness of civil war. Something so terrible that is cannot be described to one that has not experienced it. And this country has not experienced it in over 150 years.

This is my two cents

BL
BL
August 13, 2017 8:57 pm

Llpoh conveys that the truth , and only THE truth shall set us free .

The future IS our time. The Republic will stand.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  BL
August 13, 2017 9:38 pm

Who is “our”?

Sounds like an identity of some sort.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Anonymous
August 14, 2017 12:04 am
Unentertained
Unentertained
  Anonymous
August 14, 2017 1:23 am

anon

Ask Batman…………he’s baaaack.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Unentertained
August 14, 2017 2:14 am

I assume you’re BL and Batman is the person who replied to me?

That means you’re Israeli and “us/our” is referring to Zionists?

Llpoh
Llpoh
August 13, 2017 10:44 pm

To those giving my post thumbs down, please try to defend what was said about that woman, and women in general. It is indefensible. And anyone that aligns with such thoughts cannot succeed. They will be consigned to the dustbin of history.

razzle
razzle
  Llpoh
August 13, 2017 10:48 pm

Do you agree with every article posted to TBP?

Every paragraph of every article?

Every person that is “aligned with” TBP?

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Llpoh
August 13, 2017 10:58 pm

Animals? How severe?
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Llpoh
Llpoh
  Anonymous
August 13, 2017 11:06 pm

Oh yes, there is no reasoning with those animals – whivh characterizes their behavior quite well, don’t you think?’

But I do not wish them dead, and would have regretted it if they had been killed. Nor do I assign to women who choose not to have children zero value, and believe them to be a burden to society. I direct my comments at actions verifiable. Those women above in the photo are indisputably disgusting. But I do not wish them, or anyone else dead.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  Llpoh
August 13, 2017 11:14 pm

What is the severe answer? Harsh language won’t have any effect.

Plenty of normal competent people would consider your comment indefensibly hostile toward two people doing nothing but exercising their rights and harming no one.

llpoh
llpoh
  Anonymous
August 13, 2017 11:22 pm

The severe answer is that they will eventually have to fend for themselves and make their own way. A good chance that folks like that will die under those circumstances. I hope not, but that is the case. Many folks would indeed find that hostile. But they will not find it nearly so hostile as the Nazi White Supremacist Racist Anti-Semites on display at the recent gathering.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  llpoh
August 13, 2017 11:39 pm

The people you are worried about being offended have been quite content to let women be assaulted by antifa, illegals, mass migrants, etc. They’ve even tolerated children being molested and the perpetrator getting off because the person didn’t “understand it was a crime”. They’ve stood by as women are raped on facebook live streams and had no meaningful outrage.

Older women who have now experienced the full cycle of the consequences of feminism are even starting to write many articles warning women that waiting to start their family until their 30’s or 40’s is a big mistake and will bring them more pain than they know.

So while I don’t think most people would *enjoy* the way the thing you quoted was written, you’re not going to find the mass outrage you’re salivating for. Most will shrug and move on to the next outrage blip that will last for a second before moving on to the next outrage blip.

The underlying point behind the hostile rhetoric in the quote you specified is a sentiment that is actually increasing dramatically as the checks that feminism wrote start coming in to be cashed and are bouncing.

llpoh
llpoh
  Anonymous
August 13, 2017 11:57 pm

Anon – you are misrepresenting what I said.

Here, in smaller words this time. The images of Nazi scumbags shown worshiping Hitler will play poorly with the general public, especially the middle class left and right. As a result, the alt-right (Nazi-scum seems an adequate descriptor) has suffered damage. The imagery will not sell. Those thugs look bad. The Hitler salutes look bad. The Hitler helmets look bad. The Hitler quotes look bad. The body armor looks bad. The stench coming off that group is palpable.

And the sites promoting this stuff are blatantly racist, and anti-women in the extreme.

The alt-right will gain no traction. Even worse, it will make it easier for the left to sell to the masses. They are doing more harm than good.

And the sentiment that women are inferior beings to be bred like rabbits is not gaining traction. What rock did you just crawl out from under, anyway?

james the deplorable wanderer
james the deplorable wanderer
  Llpoh
August 15, 2017 4:57 pm

“But I do not wish them dead,”
Assuming you are white, LLPOH, the SJWs DO wish YOU dead. Many of them will say so – some use the phrase “white extinction” or some such. Their very shirts lie – they want “equal rights” for everyone but white people, or white males in particular.
Perhaps you should consider what you will do if one of them comes for you – or your wife, child, son, etc.
Or you could bury your head in the sand, and see where that gets you.

Anonymous
Anonymous
  james the deplorable wanderer
August 15, 2017 5:07 pm

Llpoh isn’t white.

Azathoth
Azathoth
  Anonymous
August 14, 2017 3:20 am

I don’t know if anybody here follows Baked Alaska. I don’t much. Anyhow, somebody threw acid in his eyes. He may have permanent eye damage from it.

Anonymous
Anonymous
August 17, 2017 6:34 pm

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