Blue cross will spend A LOT of money lobbying to keep that kind of dough rolling in, under penalty of law
Anonymous
September 5, 2017 7:28 am
Oh no. They are a “non-profit.” LOL.
Boat Guy
September 5, 2017 7:38 am
If you like your plan you can keep your plan !
If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor !
Every American will save on average $2500.00 per year on their health insurence !
When your government lies to you , remember it’s for your own good and the good of the nation .
Your petty personal interests are not important !
What is important is you producing as much wealth as you can for your government to confiscate and redistribute on your behalf till you get sick and die or worse yet live till all your life’s earned assets are confiscated for your care till you die !
Well thank god for that ! Where can I wave my flag without insulting anyone
Why in the fuck would you want to wave the flag of a country that would treat you so horribly?
covfefe
September 5, 2017 8:08 am
The politicians told everyone lies to get BOCARE passed,hired Groober as an expert.He lied.Now Youtube Google censoring after Clinton massive lose.The elites antifa will never let this happen again
musket
September 5, 2017 8:24 am
In 2016 the obammcare bronze failure cost for me was $1400 a month and a $10K deductible……I politely to them where to go and did short term policies…….
I was 64 at the time…….
hardscrabble farmer
September 5, 2017 8:42 am
My religion prohibits gambling on my life, so…
TJF
September 5, 2017 10:01 am
Absurd.
Alter Boyz
September 5, 2017 10:12 am
McCain.
Nurse Ratched
September 5, 2017 10:34 am
Forget politicians releasing tax returns…let’s have them release their healthcare premiums and EOBs. Let’s see how much McCain is paying for his cancer treatment compared to his constituents…
miforest
September 5, 2017 10:45 am
Muh conservatism . per john McCain, paul ryan , mitch McConnell , and karl rove.
Anon
September 5, 2017 11:57 am
Yep. The GOP will not repeal this. Because their OWNERS don’t want it repealed. Period.
I personally want to see the premiums go to $2000 / mon or even higher. Why? Because it will jolt the stupid sheeple away from football, Kardashians, and Faux News long enough to notice that they are being wholly ripped off, and maybe, just maybe get their fat lazy, non-critical thinking asses finally off the couch and do something about it….either that, or enough people will literally not be able to afford it, that the entire complex supernova’s in on itself. If the premium were lower, or went up in smaller increments, we would have to put up with years and years of this slow bleed. Just like the issues with Fed money printing, jobs etc. When it is a slow boil, it just drags on for years, politicians simply kicking the can a little further, and sheep just shrugging and saying “Oh well, that is just what it is”. At least if there is a shock, it may have a shot at collapse quicker than the TPTB can dream up another stick save.
Let it fucking burn….
Rise Up
September 5, 2017 2:03 pm
There is a huge discrepancy with health care plan pricing. I don’t know if the example in the screenshot displayed was for a private plan or a corporate plan, but here’s what I’ve experienced:
When I was with a mid-sized company (200-400 employees) in 2016, my family health plan for their best coverage was about $1,200/month, with an $8,000 deductible. Then when I became an independent IT contractor and had to get my own insurance, I obtained a “gold” level plan with Kaiser for $2,000/month (but closer to $1500 after taxable business deduction), with almost the same deductible.
Now with my new job, again with a mid-sized company, my health care plan is only $400/month and the deductible is ZERO. The maximum out-of-pocket annually is $22,000. This is for an “employee+spouse” plan. [My son just got a job, also with a mid-sized company, and his cost is only $136/month for the best plan they offer and his deductible is $7,500-not sure what his maximum out-of-pocket is.]
That screenshot does not display the maximum out-of-pocket for that plan. That is an important part to know.
My point is that it’s difficult to understand why the pricing is so varied.
MrLiberty
September 5, 2017 10:33 pm
It needs to be replaced with FREEDOM….a completely free market in medicine, drugs, healthcare, insurance, and EVERYTHING related to being, staying, and getting healthy. FREEDOM is anathema to the GOP (and the democrats of course). Both major parties have worked in collusion with the AMA and the various stakeholders in “western” (aka allopathic) medicine since the late 1800s to actively destroy their competition, empower government to act on their behalf, control who can perform what medical procedures, who can call themselves a doctor, how many doctors will be allowed, how many hospitals will be allowed and where, who can advertise what services, what prices will be, what will be tax deductible, who will benefit from legislation, and SO, SO, SO MUCH MORE. And this happens at the city, county, state, and federal levels and BOTH worthless major parties are involved up to their eyeballs.
They will NEVER repeal as the folks who wrote this horrible legislation OWN AND CONTROL the GOP as much as they control the democratic party (maybe even more).
Blue cross will spend A LOT of money lobbying to keep that kind of dough rolling in, under penalty of law
Oh no. They are a “non-profit.” LOL.
If you like your plan you can keep your plan !
If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor !
Every American will save on average $2500.00 per year on their health insurence !
When your government lies to you , remember it’s for your own good and the good of the nation .
Your petty personal interests are not important !
What is important is you producing as much wealth as you can for your government to confiscate and redistribute on your behalf till you get sick and die or worse yet live till all your life’s earned assets are confiscated for your care till you die !
Well thank god for that ! Where can I wave my flag without insulting anyone
Why in the fuck would you want to wave the flag of a country that would treat you so horribly?
The politicians told everyone lies to get BOCARE passed,hired Groober as an expert.He lied.Now Youtube Google censoring after Clinton massive lose.The elites antifa will never let this happen again
In 2016 the obammcare bronze failure cost for me was $1400 a month and a $10K deductible……I politely to them where to go and did short term policies…….
I was 64 at the time…….
My religion prohibits gambling on my life, so…
Absurd.
McCain.
Forget politicians releasing tax returns…let’s have them release their healthcare premiums and EOBs. Let’s see how much McCain is paying for his cancer treatment compared to his constituents…
Muh conservatism . per john McCain, paul ryan , mitch McConnell , and karl rove.
Yep. The GOP will not repeal this. Because their OWNERS don’t want it repealed. Period.
I personally want to see the premiums go to $2000 / mon or even higher. Why? Because it will jolt the stupid sheeple away from football, Kardashians, and Faux News long enough to notice that they are being wholly ripped off, and maybe, just maybe get their fat lazy, non-critical thinking asses finally off the couch and do something about it….either that, or enough people will literally not be able to afford it, that the entire complex supernova’s in on itself. If the premium were lower, or went up in smaller increments, we would have to put up with years and years of this slow bleed. Just like the issues with Fed money printing, jobs etc. When it is a slow boil, it just drags on for years, politicians simply kicking the can a little further, and sheep just shrugging and saying “Oh well, that is just what it is”. At least if there is a shock, it may have a shot at collapse quicker than the TPTB can dream up another stick save.
Let it fucking burn….
There is a huge discrepancy with health care plan pricing. I don’t know if the example in the screenshot displayed was for a private plan or a corporate plan, but here’s what I’ve experienced:
When I was with a mid-sized company (200-400 employees) in 2016, my family health plan for their best coverage was about $1,200/month, with an $8,000 deductible. Then when I became an independent IT contractor and had to get my own insurance, I obtained a “gold” level plan with Kaiser for $2,000/month (but closer to $1500 after taxable business deduction), with almost the same deductible.
Now with my new job, again with a mid-sized company, my health care plan is only $400/month and the deductible is ZERO. The maximum out-of-pocket annually is $22,000. This is for an “employee+spouse” plan. [My son just got a job, also with a mid-sized company, and his cost is only $136/month for the best plan they offer and his deductible is $7,500-not sure what his maximum out-of-pocket is.]
That screenshot does not display the maximum out-of-pocket for that plan. That is an important part to know.
My point is that it’s difficult to understand why the pricing is so varied.
It needs to be replaced with FREEDOM….a completely free market in medicine, drugs, healthcare, insurance, and EVERYTHING related to being, staying, and getting healthy. FREEDOM is anathema to the GOP (and the democrats of course). Both major parties have worked in collusion with the AMA and the various stakeholders in “western” (aka allopathic) medicine since the late 1800s to actively destroy their competition, empower government to act on their behalf, control who can perform what medical procedures, who can call themselves a doctor, how many doctors will be allowed, how many hospitals will be allowed and where, who can advertise what services, what prices will be, what will be tax deductible, who will benefit from legislation, and SO, SO, SO MUCH MORE. And this happens at the city, county, state, and federal levels and BOTH worthless major parties are involved up to their eyeballs.
They will NEVER repeal as the folks who wrote this horrible legislation OWN AND CONTROL the GOP as much as they control the democratic party (maybe even more).