Massive flu outbreak? Here’s the real story the media won’t touch. The lies, the hoax, the scandal.

“This Time It’s Different”

Jon Rappoport has written numerous articles about the medical/pharmaceutical/CDC scam.

I thought this one might be of interest to TBP’ers.

“…The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed – and thus clamorous to be led to safety – by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary…” — H.L. Mencken

Steve C.

Guest Post by

In case you haven’t been following the uproar over the flu outbreak, you’ve missed the fact that…

Health authorities admit this year’s flu vaccine is only 10% effective.

But of course, they urge you to take the vaccine anyway.

Why is this year’s vaccine ineffective? Because it’s made using chicken eggs, and researchers have discovered that the flu virus—which is placed in the vaccine—mutates in chicken eggs.

Therefore, by the time a person takes the flu shot, he’s not being protected against this year’s seasonal flu virus. He’s being protected against a mutated virus that isn’t causing the flu this year.

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This is the conventional explanation. If you think it’s the whole story, I have condos for sale on the moon.

You see, vaccines have been made using chicken eggs—not just this year—but for the past 70 years.

Oops.

That would mean the flu vaccine has been ineffective for decades.

Healthline.com: “The majority of flu vaccines are grown in chicken eggs, a method of vaccine development that’s been used for 70 years.”

But wait. There’s more. Much more. I’ll break it down into several scandals.

SCANDAL ONE (I covered this the other day): Dr. Peter Doshi, writing in the online BMJ (British Medical Journal), reveals a monstrosity.

As Doshi states, every year, hundreds of thousands of respiratory samples are taken from flu patients in the US and tested in labs. Here is the kicker: only a small percentage of these samples show the presence of a flu virus.

This means: most of the people in America who are diagnosed by doctors with the flu have no flu virus in their bodies.

So they don’t have the flu.

Therefore, even if you assume the flu vaccine is useful and safe, it couldn’t possibly prevent all those “flu cases” that aren’t flu cases.

The vaccine couldn’t possibly work.

The vaccine isn’t designed to prevent fake flu, unless pigs can fly.

Here’s the exact quote from Peter Doshi’s BMJ review, “Influenza: marketing vaccines by marketing disease” (BMJ 2013; 346:f3037):

“…even the ideal influenza vaccine, matched perfectly to circulating strains of wild influenza and capable of stopping all influenza viruses, can only deal with a small part of the ‘flu’ problem because most ‘flu’ appears to have nothing to do with influenza. Every year, hundreds of thousands of respiratory specimens are tested across the US. Of those tested, on average 16% are found to be influenza positive.”

“…It’s no wonder so many people feel that ‘flu shots’ don’t work: for most flus, they can’t.”

Because most diagnosed cases of the flu aren’t the flu.

So even if you’re a true believer in mainstream vaccine theory, you’re on the short end of the stick here. They’re conning your socks off.

The basic flu symptoms—cough, fever, chills, sore throat, muscle aches, weakness—can be caused by a variety of factors that have nothing to do with a flu virus.

SCANDAL TWO: In December of 2005, the British Medical Journal (online) published another shocking Peter Doshi report, which created tremors through the halls of the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), where “the experts” used to tell the press that 36,000 people in the US die every year from the flu.

Here is a quote from Doshi’s report, “Are US flu death figures more PR than science?” (BMJ 2005; 331:1412):

“[According to CDC statistics], ‘influenza and pneumonia’ took 62,034 lives in 2001—61,777 of which were attributable to pneumonia and 257 to flu, and in only 18 cases was the flu virus positively identified.”

Boom.

You see, the CDC has created one overall category that combines both flu and pneumonia deaths. Why do they do this? Because they disingenuously assume that the pneumonia deaths are complications stemming from the flu.

This is an absurd assumption. Pneumonia has a number of causes.

But even worse, in all the flu and pneumonia deaths, only 18 revealed the presence of an influenza virus.

Therefore, the CDC could not say, with assurance, that more than 18 people died of influenza in 2001. Not 36,000 deaths. 18 deaths.

Doshi continued his assessment of published CDC flu-death statistics: “Between 1979 and 2001, [CDC] data show an average of 1348 [flu] deaths per year (range 257 to 3006).” These figures refer to flu separated out from pneumonia.

This death toll is obviously far lower than the old parroted 36,000 figure.

However, when you add the sensible condition that lab tests have to actually find the flu virus in patients, the numbers of flu deaths plummet even further.

In other words, it’s all promotion and hype.

“Well, uh, we used to say that 36,000 people die from the flu every year in the US. But actually, all we can prove is about 20 deaths. However, we can’t admit that, because if we did, we’d be exposing our gigantic psyop. The whole campaign to scare people into getting a flu shot would have about the same effect as warning people to carry iron umbrellas, in case toasters fall out of upper-story windows…and, by the way, we’d be put in prison for fraud.”

SCANDAL THREE: The so-called Swine Flu pandemic of 2009. This one is a real eye-opener. The CDC was caught with its pants down.

Swine Flu was hyped to the sky by the CDC. The Agency was calling for all Americans to take the Swine Flu vaccine. Remember?

The problem was, the CDC was concealing a very dirty secret.

At the time, star CBS investigative reporter, Sharyl Attkisson, was working on the Swine Flu story. She discovered that the CDC had secretly stopped counting cases of the illness—while, of course, continuing to warn Americans about its unchecked spread.

Understand that the CDC’s main job is counting cases and reporting the numbers.

What was the Agency up to?

Here is an excerpt from my 2014 interview with Sharyl Attkisson:

Rappoport: In 2009, you spearheaded coverage of the so-called Swine Flu pandemic. You discovered that, in the summer of 2009, the Centers for Disease Control, ignoring their federal mandate, [secretly] stopped counting Swine Flu cases in America. Yet they continued to stir up fear about the “pandemic,” without having any real measure of its impact. Wasn’t that another investigation of yours that was shut down? Wasn’t there more to find out?

Attkisson: The implications of the story were even worse than that. We discovered through our FOI efforts that before the CDC mysteriously stopped counting Swine Flu cases, they had learned that almost none of the cases they had counted as Swine Flu was, in fact, Swine Flu or any sort of flu at all! The interest in the story from one [CBS] executive was very enthusiastic. He said it was “the most original story” he’d seen on the whole Swine Flu epidemic. But others pushed to stop it [after it was published on the CBS News website] and, in the end, no [CBS television news] broadcast wanted to touch it. We aired numerous stories pumping up the idea of an epidemic, but not the one that would shed original, new light on all the hype. It was fair, accurate, legally approved and a heck of a story. With the CDC keeping the true Swine Flu stats secret, it meant that many in the public took and gave their children an experimental vaccine that may not have been necessary.

—end of interview excerpt—

I’ll add a few details. It was routine for doctors all over America to send blood samples from patients they’d diagnosed with Swine Flu, or the “most likely” Swine Flu patients, to labs for testing. And overwhelmingly, those samples were coming back with the result: not Swine Flu, not any kind of flu.

That was the big secret. That’s what the CDC was hiding. That’s why they stopped reporting Swine Flu case numbers. That’s what Attkisson had discovered. That’s why she was shut down.

But it gets even worse.

Because about three weeks after Attkisson’s findings were published on the CBS News website, the CDC, obviously in a panic, decided to double down. If one lie is exposed, tell an even bigger one. A much bigger one.

Here, from a November 12, 2009, WebMD article is the CDC’s response: “Shockingly, 14 million to 34 million U.S. residents — the CDC’s best guess is 22 million — came down with H1N1 swine flu by Oct. 17 [2009].” (“22 million cases of Swine Flu in US,” by Daniel J. DeNoon).

Are your eyeballs popping? They should be.

In the summer of 2009, the CDC secretly stops counting Swine Flu cases in America, because the overwhelming percentage of lab tests from likely Swine Flu patients shows no sign of Swine Flu or any other kind of flu.

There is no Swine Flu epidemic.

Then, the CDC estimates there are 22 MILLION cases of Swine Flu in the US.

So now…when health officials begin waving red flags and raising alarms about a current viral flu outbreak, it would be more than reasonable to demand they answer questions about their past lies and deceptions.

Unless you just want to take them at their word.

If so, good luck.

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TPC
TPC
January 15, 2018 1:20 pm

Fear mongering risen to an art form.

Diogenes
Diogenes
  TPC
January 15, 2018 1:33 pm

You’re a moran.

Martin brundlefly
Martin brundlefly
  Diogenes
January 15, 2018 2:23 pm

I havent gotten the flu since i stopped getting the flu shot. Its all pointless hype for the benefit of the medical industrial complex.

Robert (QSLV)
Robert (QSLV)
  Martin brundlefly
January 16, 2018 9:43 am

I haven’t had the flu in years. Then around Christmas, I got caught under one of these:
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Sick for 2 weeks.

Robert (QSLV)

Dutchman
Dutchman
  TPC
January 15, 2018 6:14 pm

The vaccine has NOT incubated in chicken eggs – for years.

Anonymous
Anonymous
January 15, 2018 1:22 pm

I never get a flu shot, I never get the flu.

FWIW, I suspect getting the flu shot regularly weakens you natural immune responses and keeps you from developing normal immunities.

But I’m not a medical professional of any kind so that really doesn’t mean anything.

Maggie
Maggie
  Anonymous
January 15, 2018 1:33 pm

Except it makes sense.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Anonymous
January 15, 2018 2:18 pm

Ditto. Same for the rest of the family. We used to get the shots back in the late 90’s, up until mid 00’s and we also got the flu if I recall.

I think most of our natural immune system responses have been strengthened by exposure to livestock/germs/soil/etc as opposed to living in these semi-sterilized human environments that turn out greater numbers of people with all kinds of allergies and disorders.

But maybe not, just a hunch.

Martin brundlefly
Martin brundlefly
  hardscrabble farmer
January 15, 2018 2:25 pm

I read awhile back that children playing in dirt strengthened their immune system, and that hand sanitizers defeated that benefit.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Martin brundlefly
January 15, 2018 2:30 pm

Here’s one I learned to be the truth- up here septic systems are the norm (no municipal water systems except in a few urban areas). People who use anti-bacterial soaps and detergents and cleaning supplies have to get their leach fields replaced every four or five years because that stuff kills the normal bacteria that helps to digest waste. If you divert gray water (laundry, sinks, tub and showers) into it’s own separate tank and leave the solids tank for the toilets only they last indefinitely. We just replaced on that was over 100 years old.

The most virulent germs on Earth are found in hospitals. Go figure.

Martin brundlefly
Martin brundlefly
  hardscrabble farmer
January 15, 2018 2:37 pm

Thats why i have no dishwasher or washing machine. Dont want to kill my septic. I have heard bleach is a real septic system killer as well. Fwiw i know someone with a 100 plus year old septic system.
Laundromats suck, but i know my system is substandard to begin with. 500 gallon tank to drywell and only one leach line. Granite ledgerock is quite shallow here and no municipal up on the hill.

Martin brundlefly
Martin brundlefly
  Martin brundlefly
January 15, 2018 2:38 pm

And how btw do you divert the graywater? Or do you separate the toilet lines from the start?

Maggie
Maggie
  Martin brundlefly
January 15, 2018 3:09 pm

We started that way, but we had the ease of planning it from the start. However, from experience I can tell you diverting gray water from existing plumbing lines can be done with just a bit of alternative piping.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Martin brundlefly
January 15, 2018 6:21 pm

We separated the lines in the basement, not a big job, but in terms of cost savings over time in terms of longevity for the septic system and leach field, it was the smart move.

I don’t know about your area, but around here a new system is 15K or better.

i forget
i forget
  hardscrabble farmer
January 15, 2018 3:18 pm

Paging Dr. Germ….

Card802
Card802
  hardscrabble farmer
January 15, 2018 4:02 pm

A lot of our painting work is in hospitals, amazing the amount of filth we clean up prior to painting.

Max1001
Max1001
  hardscrabble farmer
January 15, 2018 7:59 pm

Planning to divert the grey water out to water my garden as soon as I can afford the plumbing modifications. That will be after I start making my own soap for all uses. Bought a book advertised in Mother Earth News. Book was pricey, but the photographs of each step and the accompanying written instructions make the process seem simple. I suspect that all commercial soaps, even the simplest, contain some synthetic ingredients inimical to garden plants and good bacteria.

Years ago, worked in a quality control lab. One of my co-workers, a fat happy guy named Eddie, used to bring in every week a 5 gallon bucket of raw sewage for some sort of testing in a separate room. Eddie said that he felt really puny for the first two or three weeks he did it, but after that initial exposure period, he never had any sort of illness at all.

Steve C.
Steve C.
  Max1001
January 15, 2018 8:06 pm

I don’t suppose that was Ed Norton.

And away we goooooo…

Max1001
Max1001
  Steve C.
January 15, 2018 8:47 pm

Nope. Eddie in the lab was fat and happy, always smiling. Ed Norton was skinny and seemed somewhat depressed. I guess I would be depressed too if I had to spend most of my life down in the sewer mains, or live in the Houston area again.

Went back in 1981, toured some of the neighborhoods I lived in while matriculating at Flunkout U and keeping body and soul together with a series of really spiffy jobs like working at a 7-11 on the midnight shift. Must have been blind in the early 70’s. In 81, said sheeeeit and locked my car doors.

Steve C.
Steve C.
January 15, 2018 1:31 pm

I get flu shots like the ones in the photo.

Tanqueray’s on the top shelf (where it should be).

I always go by the old adage that there are more old drunkards than old doctors…

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  Steve C.
January 15, 2018 2:22 pm

The bros love Tanqueray, are you a bro? Do you smoke Kools and drink Colt45?

Steve C.
Steve C.
  EL Coyote
January 15, 2018 2:38 pm

Sorry – Old white fart.

Drink Tanqueray (when I can afford it)

Smoke Camel Filters.

Don’t drink Colt 45, but I love to shoot them…

Ryan Taylor
Ryan Taylor
  Steve C.
January 15, 2018 4:46 pm

I thought the same. The best flu shot is a double shot of Macallan and a cigar.

w
w
January 15, 2018 1:40 pm

Thought this site was supposed to be fake news free. Someone asleep at the switch? Who let this asshole in? We are supposed to believe that the CDC is covering something up and falsely reporting flu deaths? That the CDC is somehow in a conspiracy with the Australian Health Department and the British National Health system and all of the other national health systems to call the deaths flu related when it is “really” something else?

Just another crank vaccination denier. Don’t waste our time.

Martin brundlefly
Martin brundlefly
  w
January 15, 2018 2:26 pm

Vaccination denier? Do you deny there is thimersol, a preservative, in vaccines which is in fact mercury?

Sarthurk
Sarthurk
  Martin brundlefly
January 15, 2018 3:06 pm

Which is in fact a lie!

Martin brundlefly
Martin brundlefly
  Sarthurk
January 15, 2018 3:37 pm

You might wanna fact check yourself there hotrod. Thimersol, its in there, and you have to request certain vaccines without it for infants only. Try google. Lotsa good stuff can be found on google. Look it up before you cry lies.

Martin brundlefly
Martin brundlefly
  Martin brundlefly
January 15, 2018 3:40 pm

Thiomersal, or merthiolate is eli lilys brand name. First result on google even when i spelled it wrong. Sarthurk you owe a retraction.

Martin brundlefly
Martin brundlefly
  Martin brundlefly
January 15, 2018 3:47 pm

1] Thimerosal is no longer used in children’s vaccines in the United States, except some types of flu shots.[2] exposure to mercury may result in damage to brain, kidneys, and developing fetus,[3]

AlsoTrapped
AlsoTrapped
  Sarthurk
January 15, 2018 10:56 pm

They’re not lying to us . . . exactly. But in the same vein that Bill Clinton could turn a bald-faced lie into the “truth” by quibbling over the definition of “is”, the ingredients listed in vaccines depend upon the meaning of the word ” ingredients.”

http://www.vaccineriskawareness.com/Mercury-Free-Vaccines-Still-Have-Mercury-In-Them

And what about other neurotoxins that ARE still listed as ingredients, such as aluminum?

http://www.chop.edu/centers-programs/vaccine-education-center/vaccine-ingredients/aluminum

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/01/27/mercury-in-vaccines-was-replaced-with-something-even-more-toxic.aspx

Diogenes
Diogenes
  w
January 15, 2018 3:39 pm

I hope that was sarcasm. If not, go back to sleep.

TampaRed
TampaRed
  w
January 15, 2018 10:17 pm

good job w–you get the troll of the weekend award–

Davido
Davido
  w
January 16, 2018 1:01 pm

W -Glad you don’t worry about all these inane free thinking people on TBP. You know the truth! The government loves you and is here to help you! Life truly is fair! And WTC 7 spontaneously blew itself up.

indubitably
indubitably
January 15, 2018 1:40 pm

Does someone have admin’s email address? Thanks

EL Coyote
EL Coyote
  indubitably
January 15, 2018 2:26 pm

We all have his addy, it’s right below the SUBSCRIBE button.

Maggie
Maggie
  EL Coyote
January 15, 2018 2:37 pm

That’s SO rude. [email protected]

You don’t have to be quite so Unwelcoming, EC. Not every noobe is a turkey. Just most.

kokoda the Deplorable Raccoon
kokoda the Deplorable Raccoon
  Maggie
January 15, 2018 4:02 pm

Maggie…………….I wouldn’t normally reply to your comment (I gave the up thumb) but it is just amazing that you went out of your way to provide the actual link and some MORON gives you a slam.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  kokoda the Deplorable Raccoon
January 15, 2018 6:23 pm

Your it.

Mary Christine
Mary Christine
  Maggie
January 15, 2018 7:30 pm

Gobble!

indubitably
indubitably
  Maggie
January 15, 2018 7:37 pm

“Inquiries about advertising opportunities can be made by emailing me at [email protected]

farthest thing from a noob Maggie, I was not looking to advertise, but good manners nevertheless, thanks

nkit
nkit
  Maggie
January 15, 2018 10:21 pm

Maggie’s sizing up a new fish….

card802
card802
January 15, 2018 1:48 pm

Years ago I read a piece by Doug Casey about man caused global warming. Doug figured moving forward and the alarmist were slowly proven wrong the population will become very skeptical of science.
Being lied to about man caused climate change should give pause to ponder why.
People need to understand, man caused climate change, flu outbreaks, bailing out wall street, to inbound ballistic missiles, it’s all about power and control, trading freedom for security.

Martin brundlefly
Martin brundlefly
January 15, 2018 2:30 pm

With all the lies, proven lies, that come from our government, how does anyone say to themselves, “but they would never lie about that” ? Think weapons of mass destruction as an excuse to invade a country and kill a million people. Why would you ever believe anything they said ever again?

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Martin brundlefly
January 15, 2018 6:24 pm

Great minds think alike.

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Doc (just up the road apiece)
Doc (just up the road apiece)
  hardscrabble farmer
January 15, 2018 10:22 pm

Hey Hardscrabble,

Who are these guys? I don’t recognize any of them.

TJF
TJF
  Doc (just up the road apiece)
January 16, 2018 8:56 am

Stanley Kubrick (of 2001 a Space Odyssey fame) with members of NASA I believe. It is a picture that people use as evidence that we never went to the moon. The theory is that Kubrick helped them film all the moon scenes in a studio or out in a desert somewhere, then he later used what he learned to shoot the space scenes in 2001.

Iska Waran
Iska Waran
January 15, 2018 2:32 pm

There’s only one proven way to ward off the flu. That’s for a woman to swallow her husband’s semen at least once a week.

Maggie
Maggie
  Iska Waran
January 15, 2018 2:39 pm

I almost put something here about breastfeeding and decided NOT.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  Iska Waran
January 15, 2018 6:27 pm

Well that explains it then.

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Robert (QSLV)
Robert (QSLV)
  Iska Waran
January 16, 2018 11:50 am

Once daily works best.

Robert (QSLV)

Suds
Suds
January 15, 2018 3:07 pm

With so many pushing flu shots so adamantly, + the fact you can get them free at all CVS, Walgreen’s, even supermarkets, who benefits, and why? I smell a classic Follow the Money because SOMEONE is paying for the push. And, there must be yuge monetary incentives to distribute, using Marketing 101. Create for, instill urgency, threaten danger if we opt out, and make it cheap & easy to opt in. I’m guessing CDC is funded by federal dollars, incentives offered to providers, and it’s more control of the masses.
True story. 10 years ago, a good friend, got the shot. Within a week, she developed a serious blood condition needing hospitalization. Her white cell count was dangerously low. They tried multiple platelet bags via IV. If one last batch would not have brought it up to normal levels, she was already scheduled to have her spleen removed. She hasn’t had the flu shot since. She works in a hospital, and has to fight their mandate for all employees to get it. Every damn year.
Some people say that should be enforced. I’d say, if you get the shot, then you shouldn’t worry about catching flu from a caregiver.
Sepsis or other bacterial infections are a different story.
Bottom line: Practice healthy habits & try to stay out of hospitals as much as possible. Research!
~Vaccines for toddlers push is another controversial mandate.

javelin
javelin
  Suds
January 15, 2018 7:00 pm

I know of someone who is required by their health care facilities to provide a slip verifying that they have had their annual flu shot– they simply look on-line for the flu vaccine code/number, google flu vaccine form/image and print. A quick paste of a doctor’s letterhead at the top, type in the current batch # of your shot at the bottom field ( a little photoshop as the cut and paste of the letterhead sometimes leaves that black line when printing.)
Turn it in without raising any flags and nobody really looks at it as the person’s name is checked off, vaccine verification is entered in the employee file and the hard copy is either filed or trashed— 5 mins time and avoid another dose of mercury accumulation ( and starve the big pharma beast.)–just saying, sometimes it is easier to shut up and appear to go with the program.

Ray
Ray
January 15, 2018 3:14 pm

So what exactly is killing people every year? Why is the CDC NOT telling? What was the “Great Influenza” of 1918 to 1920 that killed almost one fourth of the population of the earth? And if it isn’t Flu, then what the HELL is it?

javelin
javelin
  Ray
January 15, 2018 7:06 pm

The Spanish flu was real and virulent–there has not ben a major flu since.

As a side-note, if/when a new virulent strain does come along like the WWI Spanish Flu ( also remember men were in ditches chitting together, dysentery, cholera and even diarrhea were in the top tier of world-wide killers and millions of refugees from war) the current flu vaccine strains used would have little to no effect. Also, if there are mutating antigens for these virulent pathologies and the viruses are adapting to the current vaccine base, then the next TRUE flu outbreak could be on a black death scale of mortality.

AC
AC
January 15, 2018 3:20 pm

Health authorities admit this year’s flu vaccine is only 10% effective.

This is probably also bullshit. The way the influenza vaccines are developed is a year long, or so, process. Initially, the epidemiologists and virologists guess which strains are most likely to be a problem in a year. These strains are the ones the vaccines are developed for.

They have never guessed correctly, in the entire history of the program. Not even once. *

If the vaccine is partially effective, is it just by chance that the most prevalent strains in the population have surface antigens similar enough, to the target strains in the vaccine, for the vaccine to be partially effective.

There are several possibilities that come to mind:
1) Pure greed, with no ulterior motives, and a useless vaccine;
2) Some malicious intent – with a vaccine that does something other than claimed;
3) Some beneficial intent, again with a vaccine that does something other than claimed (this is probably the least likely option – secretly vaccinating the population against something else for some reason);
4) The CDC is run by sadists that like the idea of poking people with needles for no reason.

I’d bet it’s #1 or #2.

* – The last time I checked, several years ago. I doubt it has changed.

Diogenes
Diogenes
  AC
January 15, 2018 3:42 pm

Of course it’s bullshit. I personally know 3 people who got the flu shot and still got the flu. That’s 0 % effective not 10% effective. Think people, think.

javelin
javelin
  AC
January 15, 2018 7:11 pm

Great reply–I suspect #1 but #2 has crossed my mind more than once.

BB
BB
January 15, 2018 3:22 pm

Don’t know how effective the flu shots are but you don’t want to wait until you got influenza .My type of influenza turned into pneumonia which damn near killed me while I was in the hospital.Doctors told me I was lucky .The antibiotics didn’t work very well with this kind of pneumonia.If you get the flu don’t wait until it gets worse.Your life may depend on how quickly you get to the hospital.

hardscrabble farmer
hardscrabble farmer
  BB
January 15, 2018 6:32 pm

You’ve got to take into account the shitty lifestyle. You don’t get a lot of physical activity, you eat crappy food and you come into contact with travelers and their germs all the time- you are still a trucker, right?

People who live in one spot and don’t do a whole lot of interacting with the global population don’t seem to experience the debilitating effects of transmittable diseases and viruses. Or they build up immunity by being exposed. I’d love to know what the sick out rate on pilots and cabin crews are. Or the guys who look at passports at the airport, TSA, etc. I bet they get sick a lot.

Steve C.
Steve C.
  hardscrabble farmer
January 15, 2018 6:40 pm

“…Or the guys who look at passports at the airport, TSA, etc. I bet they get sick a lot…”

Seems only fair.

The blue-gloved-perverts at the TSA make everyone else sick.

Doc (just up the road apiece)
Doc (just up the road apiece)
  hardscrabble farmer
January 15, 2018 10:31 pm

I was a Paramedic in the biggest EMS system in the country. I NEVER got sick – I was exposed to and developed antibodies to everything.

Max1001
Max1001
  BB
January 15, 2018 8:24 pm

Hokay. I didn’t attend a medical school, but I can tell you what works for me.

1. Elderberry extract. Has been demonstrated to prevent flu & colds and lessen the severity & duration if you already are suffering. A version called “Sambucol” has been clinically tested and proven effective.

2. Lugol’s Solution. An iodine solution that can be taken internally. I buy the 5% solution in a 1 ounce bottle from J Crows in Vermont. The 2% solution is a waste of money. Most people are iodine deficient. I try to remember to take 1 drop twice a week, mixed into a glass of unpasteurized, unfiltered apple cidar & water. When i feel sick, I take 2 drops. Feed perky again within hours.

Two caveats: easy to overdose, so no more than 2 drops per week; do not buy more that 1 ounce per month. The Feds think Lugol’s is a meth precursor. I am also cautious about buying too much vanilla ice cream, just in case the Feds think vanilla ice cream is a meth precursor.

3. Colloidal silver. Somewhat expensive, even in the big bottles. The good news is that you can make all you want at home with a DC power supply and two chunks of .9999 silver. Instructions on youtube. The natural medicine gurus say that colloidal silver will kill any harmful bacteria, but the jury is out on whether it will kill a virus.

4. Vitamin C and Vitamin D. If I am feeling puny, I will take 4,000 to 5,000 milligrams of Vitamin C. Can’t overdose on Vitamin C but can overdose on D. Normally, after taking C, my urine will be bright yellow. If I am sick, and the C is being expended in killing nasty bugs, my urine will be almost clear.

Maggie
Maggie
January 15, 2018 3:24 pm

My friend is at home with her adult daughter today with pneumonia. She called the hospital and was told there was a 21 hour wait at the ER.

Whatever that means.

javelin
javelin
  Maggie
January 15, 2018 7:16 pm

Do you live near where there are a lot of “immigrants”? We have only <3% of Hispanic population in my area yet the ER is ALWAYS 50% filled with the pregnant, Maria-types and her 6 y/o, 4 y/o, 3 y/o, toddler and infant.. I exaggerate not.

Steve C.
Steve C.
January 15, 2018 3:32 pm

If you are interested you can check out some additional articles Jon Rappoport has written on this topic here:

https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/category/flu/

And yes, there is a LOT of money in this for the pharmaceutical cartel.

We are all adults here at TBP (most of us anyway) so decide for yourself.

BUCKHED
BUCKHED
January 15, 2018 4:00 pm

I’m all about science and through my own experiments I’m can prove that alcohol is better than the flu shot.

Take a worm and put it in a glass of water…it’ll wiggle around .

Put the same worm in a shot of bourbon ….it’ll quickly die .

So drink a shot (or two ) every now and then and you’ll never have worms or the flu !

Ryan Taylor
Ryan Taylor
  BUCKHED
January 15, 2018 4:49 pm

Every now and then? How about every day?

Chubby Bubbles
Chubby Bubbles
  Ryan Taylor
January 15, 2018 10:09 pm

I think he meant every now and then during the day..

JIMSKI
JIMSKI
January 15, 2018 4:21 pm

Screw the flue vaccine. I do recommend the vaccine for pnumonia. There are 2 used one almost anyone can get but one is difficult unless you are over 60 or are in a risk group.
The pnumovax saved my life or at least made it much better. Have not been admitted for breathing problems since getting the vaccine.

22winmag - The South was Right (and slavery would have ended through legislation not war in the years to come, so don't give me that shit) What happened to places like Rhodesia and safe spaces for white folks? What comes next?
22winmag - The South was Right (and slavery would have ended through legislation not war in the years to come, so don't give me that shit) What happened to places like Rhodesia and safe spaces for white folks? What comes next?
January 15, 2018 4:37 pm

CDC = so full of shit!

Coalclinker
Coalclinker
January 15, 2018 5:24 pm

We all know that big pharma needs to keep the gravy train running and flu shots amount to a couple of tons of coal needed to keep up a head of steam. But you know, maybe there’s something else in those shots. Something that causes major health problems years down the road.
I’ve had one flu shot and it made me sick as hell for the better part of a week. No one around me or where I worked had the flu or anything like I had.
A few years ago a “physical assistant” asked me if I had my flu shot. I simply said “No!” and nothing else. The bitch shot back with, ” Oh, are you one of those who doesn’t believe in shits?” I said,” not when your fucking shot makes me sick.” Immediate end of the discussion.

SemperFido
SemperFido
January 15, 2018 5:27 pm

I will wade in. 30 year RN, half of that in ICU. I refuse the flu shot. It doesn’t work. I have seen several of my coworkers become sick, some seriously, after getting it.
I was around back during the big swine flu scare and what no-one mentioned is that the vaccine they were pushing actually killed more people than the swine flu did that year. By giving them Guillain-Barre.
I do not know why there is such a huge push to try to almost force everyone to get this worthless injection. But my government has lied to me my entire life, since the day I came home from school to find mom crying in front of the black and white tv because JFK had been killed.
So in spite of the pressure from my hospital admin. I refuse and always will refuse the flu shot.
Note, I am not an anti-vaccer. Some shots, to prevent tetanus for example work and are needed.

Mossberg
Mossberg
  SemperFido
January 15, 2018 6:07 pm

As a combat lifesaver(cross trained as a medic but not my primary mos) during desert storm I was tasked with giving an entire military intel battalion a battery of vaccines including anthrax vax. Went smooth until I got to the TOC . All the top MI people refused the vaccines under threat of courts martial. Always wondered what they knew. Fwiw I was giving a single part, dose that is, vaccine. A little research shows anthrax is a two part vaccine.

TJF
TJF
  Mossberg
January 16, 2018 9:05 am

I am not in general against vaccines. I believe they have helped pretty much get rid of smallpox and polio in this country. I got a tetanus shot (DPT) last year.

I haven’t gotten a flu shot since I retired from the Navy where they made you get one. I used to get sick every year from the shot, but didn’t get the flu. After 8 years with no flu shot, I still have not gotten the flu, but don’t end up sick for 3-4 days from the shot.

Some pretty shocking claims made concerning the CDC in this article even to someone who generally distrusts the government.

Gerold
Gerold
January 16, 2018 9:17 am

I used to get sick 4 or 5 times a year until I stopped getting annual flu shots ten years ago. I’ve been sick only once in the last ten years.

That’s hardly scientific, but I know what works and what doesn’t.

Susan Miller
Susan Miller
January 18, 2018 12:48 am

After three years deeply down an ugly rabbit hole researching…I am 100% convinced without a shadow of a doubt the CDC is an entirely corrupt, dishonest and shady organization. Julie Gerberding who headed the CDC for a long time and oversaw the CDC’s recommended vaccination schedule explosion
from the handful (maybe 4) I got in the late 60’s / early 70’s to the 70…yes SEVENTY vaccines now recommended by age 18… left..and low and behold was hired by Merck as their top executive overseeing their vaccine division. And yes, she netted a cool couple million after selling some of her shares a few years into the job. So no the CDC is not virtuous..just like the EPA isn’t and the FTC isn’t. Don’t think because they are involved in “health” and “childhood diseases” that they are any different. Google Simpsonwood transcripts (only obtained via a FOIA request) and have fun reading 48 pages of the top CDC, Pharma and medical establishment Nash their teeth for two days at an emergency offsite meeting to discuss highly statistically significant findings by a CDC researcher that thimerosal in vaccines was causing neurological conditions like tics, speech delays, ADHD and more. What becomes clear during those discussion is that they had been allowing thimerosal in childhood vaccines for decades…without the necessary safety studies to understand the potential harm or risks of injecting it via vaccines. What did they do? Manipulate the findings away (keeping in mind one of the top CDC research scientists sent an email w the subject line “the results just won’t go away”…but they found a way…) and then quietly made the pharma companies take it out, giving them two years to run out their current vaccine stock rather than recall them. AND to boot…right when they made pharmaceutical companies take thimerosal out..they added a recommendation for flu shots for pregnant women and annually for children 6 months or older…even though a good portion (in the multi-vial flu shots) continued and continues to contain thimerosal.

So do I think they are capable of lying or bullshiting the public and fudging numbers? Fuck yes they have and they continue to do so. BS’ing the number of flu deaths annually is small potatoes to them. Just another entirely corrupt Amercian government institutions like the rest of them imho.

I provided only one example to illustrate my case.

c1ue
c1ue
January 18, 2018 4:49 pm

What an idiotic article.
While I’m not a big fan of the flu shots, I at least understand the fundamentals of what they are and what they are supposed to do. The author doesn’t understand jack and then builds a huge edifice of assumption (the ass-u-me type) on it.
1) The flu shot is never intended to convey immunity. What it seeks to do is to guess what the prevalent flu type is and prime people so that if the guessed type is correct, anyone getting sick but who had a shot will be less sick.
2) The flu type guessed is just that, a guess. By definition, it is impossible to know what the prevalent strain is particularly in this age of air travel.
3) The types guessed aren’t based on the specific flu strain. See 2)
What is guessed are the 2 primary viral components associated with cell infection and viral propagation. The H#N# stand for the 2 components, and there are not infinite variations of each. However, the H#N# designation does not represent a unique flu type – it only represents a category which happens to use that H type to infect and N type to spread. You can have H1N1 Spanish flu a la 1918 – and it will likely kill you (likely defined as 20% chance of dying). You can have H1N1 which has 1% chance of dying a la 2009 – which is the roughly average chance of dying if you’re a vulnerable demographic (generally old, sometimes very young).
When falling off the tree of ignorance, at least try to hit a few clue branches on the way down.