The Controversy around Skin in the Game

Guest Post by Nassim Taleb

Skin in the Game is another addition to the Incerto, now volume 5; I avoided duplication by referring to where in the Incerto some points were developed such as via negativa or monoculture of forecasters or expert problems. You simply don’t repeat in chapter 23 what was said in chapter 5, but can make reference to it.

Now it so happens that I am in the BS busting category, which includes journalists (especially journalists). And the book is designed to be hated by BS operators who can be book reviewers. I instructed publishers to send the book to only doers, not people who make a verbagiastic living.

Let me say it again. I am intolerant of BS; I suffers no fools except when the BS is harmless.

The Judgment of Cambyses

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So far three journalists have, while uninvited, attempted to do a (sort of) hack job: John Gapper (FT), Zoe Williams (Guardian), and Phil Coggan (Economist; yes I am outing him, SITG). The problem however is that they agree with the general message of the book (who doesn’t ?) except in what concerns them, so the best way is to perform some assassination on side points: 1) find what appears to be a “flaw”, 2) use the technique of Sam Harris, i.e. make the author look like a hateful spiteful person who hates everybody simply because he doesn’t like bullshitters. The problem of course is that it is hard to claim I am against all experts, not just the .1% faux experts so they disguize the claim as a he is a “hates everybody” type of fellow.

Also note that the book isn’t about SITG but the weird consequences (modern slavery, looks of surgeons, rationality of survival, religious practices, commercial ethics, Lindy effects, and, mostly, risk taking). You will also notice that given the homework done by journos, the “flaws” happen to be in the beginning, never at the end.

John Gapper (Financial Times)

John Gapper is a nice fellow with whom I sparred on Twitter for the usual reasons, his (justified) frustration over my open disrespect for the general members of hi profession. In all fairness, he finds the book entertaining (though hard to summarize journalistically, which explains the longevity of the Incerto but annoys reviewers) and important. As expected, he writes: “Taleb has again put his finger on a flaw in how society operates, one that has damaging moral and financial results.” But then he continues:

GAPPER: The book’s weakness is that it never satisfactorily addresses the counter-argument to the need for “skin in the game” — that having a stake in an outcome eliminates impartiality and causes conflicts of interest. Judges are not paid according to how many people they send to jail and, more trivially, it would be a bad idea if I were being paid a cut of Taleb’s sales.

On that, Mr Gapper misses twice. The book answers the point twice explicitly. Primo

ME in SITG: “We re- moved the skin in the game of journalists in order to prevent market manipulation, thinking that it would be a net gain to society. The arguments in this book are that the former (market manipulation) and conflicts of interest are more benign than impunity for bad advice. The main reason, we will see, is that in the absence of skin in the game, journalists will imitate, to be safe, the opinion of other journalists, thus creating monoculture and collective mirages.

(Background: in The Black Swan I show a statistical illustration of such monoculture with forecasters without skin-in-the-game cluster on a wrong answers, which is nonrandom: the variance within forecasters is smaller than that between forecasts and out of sample realizations. Too technical for Gapper).

Secundo, he missed the discussion of the corrupt Persian judge Sisamnes: a judge’s skin in the game is in the exquisite symmetry of justice. Skin in the game means consequences when you are wrong as much as when you are right. Being paid simply to jail people is asymmetric and has no penalties (I wonder how he can make such a blatant mistake and fail to realize SITG is about matching disincentives to incentives).

And John Gapper’s skin in the game as a reviewer is in the preservation of symmetry (again, not just incentives): my making him accountable in his review with a review of his review. Gabish?

Philip Coggan (The Economist)

It looks like Phil Coggan liked the book. He was just irritated by it. Fair:

The reader’s experience is rather like being trapped in a cab with a cantankerous and over-opinionated driver.

The point is I had the exact same tone in The Black Swan and in Fooled by Randomness (calling economists charlatans etc.), books he liked. Except that the message did not make him feel uncomfortable then (someone insulting lucky and rich fools give journos a feeling of revenge).

But one contention:

Yet even here Mr Taleb applies different standards to his own arguments and those of others. When he criticises Western politicians for intervening in Libya, he has no skin in the game.

I have extensively discussed the point in Antifragile, in the via negativa section. At length. Should one need intervention “to save the world” or something, one must the price for the failure. And it is a risk: to prevent the excuse of pushing a wrong button. Omission is not symmetric to commission under iatrogenics. The argument of “do something” is carefully plotted against the principle “first do no harm” and SITG is the solution: you own it if you break it. Under such symmetry, I am ready to act.

Sisammes

Zoe Williams (Guardian)

Now, she has a problem. A big problem. A very big problem. Reading comprehension at a high school or perhaps elementary school level.

(…)chief executives and shareholders who want values maximised — people whose skin is very much in the game of driving down wages.

What??? The book explains that skin in the game is not incentives, but disincentives. So I wonder about her own abilities …

You wouldn’t want homicide law to be written by the mother of a murdered child.

Of course, she doesn’t get the very notion of disincentives.

She also makes many, many such mistakes not worth discussing here: doesn’t get the minority rule, knows nothing about helicopters; she practically knows nothing.

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Maggie
Maggie
February 26, 2018 10:43 am

I have been offline doing a lot of READING of books and listening to audio books. Taleb’s work is a favorite for listening to while wandering and wondering.

http://freeaudiobookguide.com/downloads/antifragile/

unit472/
unit472/
February 26, 2018 11:30 am

You’ve pretty much got to be fool to get into a quarrel with Nassim Taleb. The guy is just so much smarter than almost everyone else you aren’t going to outwit him.

i forget
i forget
February 26, 2018 6:24 pm

“…journalists will imitate, to be safe, the opinion of other journalists, thus creating monoculture and collective mirages.”

Chu-chu: “It was Socrates in the west who first taught us that the most important convergence occurs within ourselves. This kind of education has many byproducts – some good, some bad, all of them disturbing. Only much later does the student know that the “splinter of Socratic irony” has entered his spirit, an occurrence for which he will always be grateful….The objective is no less than the Socratic ideal of an individual who thinks for himself, uses independent judgment, & acts with deliberate choice. Can a martial artist be virtuous if he feels satisfaction in harming someone else? What good is knowledge of something if that knowledge is not infused with a sense of virtue? Can an immoral person really understand the truth? Can reality be perceived by an unjust mind? Finally & perhaps most importantly, can one really know & believe in something & then fail to implement it? An individual can only contemplate the ideal human character from the perspective of personal transcendence.

There is a deep affinity between personal transformation & the external world. Modern Western philosophy has long proposed the concept that the emergence of order & reason reveals itself gradually through the long dialectic of historical events. In particular, the German philosopher Hegel, in his seminal work “The Phenomenology of Mind” (1806), described how the adoption of intellect & organization leads both individuals & societies onto progressively higher forms of spirituality or geist. However, the belief that human beings are moving inexorably, if however haphazardly, towards higher forms of consciousness has been seriously challenged by the events of the last 100 years. The skeptics point to the layers of racism, dogmatism & material deprivation that still envelops much of the world. The victims of recurring wars, genocide, disease & ignorance in the 20th century give credence to the pessimistic dictum that the dark side of human nature has changed very little over the last 40,000 years. Can we blame them for holding the view that life offers a cyclical or static existence to which time provides very little that is new? For those who care about such questions, which worldview – sustained progress or recurring cyclicality – does one embrace?

…The beginner martial arts student instinctively looks to his sifu for answers. He assumes that, with the passage of time & effort, the teacher’s knowledge & insights may be transmitted to the student, making him (for better or worse) more like the teacher. This reflexive gravitation towards experts who can deliver solutions reflects human beings myths about certainty & completeness.” ~ “The Martial Way & Its Virtues”

Mano-a-mano closeted, homogenized, cultures…mano, mano, everywhere & not a drop of think.

Maggie
Maggie
  i forget
February 27, 2018 7:26 am

I just wish I had some of what he was smoking.

i forget
i forget
  Maggie
February 27, 2018 11:38 am

Here’s an assumption worth checking (like is done in hockey ☻): where there’s fire, there must be smoke…..