I wonder…. if Hillary had been elected, how would this have played out?
Via Zerohedge.com
A giant caravan of Central American migrants illegally crossing through Mexico, in the hopes of illegally crossing into the U.S., has ground to a halt as over a thousand migrants begin their fourth day camped out at a Mexican sports arena.
“We’re in limbo,” said one asylum seeker camped outside of the center – surrounded by garbage bags full of trash and rolled up mattresses.
Organizers admit they were taken aback by both the size of this year’s caravan—which has been a periodic ritual since 2010—and the attention it has received. They also admit their original plan of making their way to the U.S. border has likely changed. –Wall St. Journal
“We cannot arrive to the border with 1,000 people. The group is too large, we never had seen this amount of people before,” said organizer Irineo Mujica, adding that previous caravans had about 300 people.
Meanwhile, Mexican foreign minister Luis Videgaray tweeted on Tuesday that the caravan had “disbanded,” despite appearing largely intact on Wednesday – albeit not moving.
La caravana “Víacrucis del Migrante” se dispersó gradualmente por decisión de sus participantes. La política migratoria mexicana se ejerce de manera soberana y conforme a derecho, y no a partir de presiones o amenazas externas.
— Luis Videgaray Caso (@LVidegaray) April 3, 2018
Mexican authorities have already deported approximately 400 marchers, while the rest will be given either a 20-day transit visa through Mexico to return home, or a 30-day humanitarian visa for those who want to apply for asylum in Mexico.
Everyone else was encouraged to take a humanitarian visa in Mexico, a document allowing them to travel in Mexico for 10 to 20 days, or document giving them permission to stay in the country for 30 days to file an immigration claim. They will not go beyond Mexico City.
— Adolfo Flores (@aflores) April 3, 2018
Not so fast…
Reports are also coming in that several hundred caravan members boarded “The Beast” train in Central Mexico, while the rest of the caravan forged ahead.
A few hundred of the Hondureño migrant’s Caravan boarded “The Beast” train ? in central Mexico ??. The rest of the caravan continued on their quest to USA ?? borders by foot or other transportation methods -man in the video says! @realDonaldTrump @FoxNews #StopTheCaravan pic.twitter.com/gO08XTTpCv
— Marco Gutierrez (@MarcoGutierrez) April 4, 2018
Some in the United States think the notion of Central American refugees seeking asylum in the United States after passing through Mexico is laughable – considering Mexico’s “working” asylum system.
Mark Kirkorian, director of the Center for Immigration Studies, a Washington-based think tank that favors more immigration restrictions, said that any migrant from Honduran who tries to enter the U.S. from Mexico should forfeit their claim to be seeking asylum. –WSJ
“I’m sorry, but you are not seeking refuge from persecution if you are passing through 1,000 miles of Mexico, a country that has a working asylum system, and trying to reach the U.S.,” Mr. Kirkorian said.
Caravan organizer Irineo Mujica said that around 70% of the immigrants want to stay in Mexico if they receive their papers to stay and work there – and that many have family living in the country.
“What I need is a job to support my family, and if Mexico provides me with papers and work I will stay [in Mexico] with a cousin,” said Walter Romero, 40, who had to shutter his garage business in the Honduran city of San Pedro Sula amid the looting and protests of recent months.
Hondurans seeking refuge in the U.S. has grown dramatically over the last decade as political instability and gang violence have escalated. Petitions for asylum from El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras grew by 800% between 2010 and 2016 according to the DOJ.
Mexico, meanwhile, has stepped up immigration enforcement along their southern border – apprehending over 5,000 illegal immigrants in February, up from 2,000 and 3,000 per month for most of last year.
Trump steps in
As the caravan made its way north over the past week, President Trump pointed to it as an example of why his border wall needs to be built. Trump also threatened to kill NAFTA and cut off foreign aid to “Honduras and the countries that allow this to happen.”
The big Caravan of People from Honduras, now coming across Mexico and heading to our “Weak Laws” Border, had better be stopped before it gets there. Cash cow NAFTA is in play, as is foreign aid to Honduras and the countries that allow this to happen. Congress MUST ACT NOW!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) April 3, 2018
Trump also said on Tuesday that he would deploy U.S. troops to the southern border to guard against illegal crossings into the country “until we have a wall.”
“Until we can have a wall and proper security, we are going to be guarding our border with the military. That’s a big step,” Trump told reporters at the White House while sitting nearby Defense Secretary James Mattis.
FLASH: Pres. Trump reveals he is plotting with Defense Sec. Mattis to guard the border with Mexico using the U.S. military pic.twitter.com/GPC2L3KQOu
— Josh Caplan (@joshdcaplan) April 3, 2018
Trump’s comments mark a significant escalation in U.S. border policy, as troops along the frontier with Mexico – not the U.S. border patrol, would be the most aggressive action taken to date by the President who promised voters a giant wall.
The President also closed the door on a DACA deal this week – an Obama-era program designed to protect young immigrants brought here illegally to the United States as children. In a Sunday tweet, Trump railed against “ridiculous liberal (Democratic) laws” like “catch and release”. And with more “dangerous caravans coming” to the US border, “Republicans must go to Nuclear Option to pass tough laws NOW. NO MORE DACA DEAL!”
So we are left with a stalled out caravan that’s never going to reach the U.S. border, and U.S. troops on their way to guard it until the wall is built. Perhaps Trump should send the organizers gift baskets to thank them for making his case for stronger border security.
Perhaps Trump should start building the fucking Wall instead of just talking about it.
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Du hast ein vogel.
Suck my vogel…
Man you’re cranky today.
And I don’t swing that way anyhow, but thanks for the offer.
I admit to being a bit cranky today; it’s been a tough week, but I am rebounding well today, I think. Visitors with young , very young kids, for 6 days…Free at last…Other than that, I wear it well…
Three fingers of Knob Creek should soothe the chafing and redness of soul nicely.
Knob’s been kicking my ass for the last six days….
There’s work to be had in Mexico. Always room for more cartel soldiers and street whores.
Gotta look on the bright side.
You come for the cartel work, you stay for the whores! Mexico, fuck yea.
If Hillary or Yeb had been elected, the Border Patrol would have sent buses into Mexico to pick the caravan members up, and get them into the US as fast as possible.
The bus with Yeb’s in-laws on it would probably be a bit nicer than the others.
all liberal vegans should be rounded up, and questioned, you know, for the kids…decently fed and then decently shot…
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Trump’s UN stooge got her undergraduate in tearing down Confederate war memorials and the statues of HONORABLE MEN.
With liberty and cultural genocide for some.
Deport her….
If she loves Cuba so much, why the fuck is she still here? One of the great benefits of a free society is the freedom to LEAVE.
Right on Nkit…….Right on!!!!!!!!!!!!
They can’t have it both ways….fuckers.
Imagine if Mexico was a step up for your living conditions?
There are 5.2 billion people on this planet who make less each day than a mexican. Look it up. Great ted talk on population and migration covered the subject quite well using jars full o colored gumballs.
I remember that one. Too much logic and reason for the notion to catch on with MSM or politicians and most of the population has no idea what a TED talk even is.
HA-HA!
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Thank god for Trump. Just say no. Keep these and other low life fucks out of our country. These people aren’t organizing by themselves. I’m sure Soros, or someone like him is paying for this shit-show.
What prevents this regiment of infiltrators from breaking down into battalions of infiltrators who break down into companies of invaders who then subdivide into platoons of border violaters who separate into squads of infiltrators who then disperse into small groups of border crossers who are then here forever?This campaign is not over. It just takes attention away from the real issue by giving a temporary feeling of accomplishment.
Dutchy- Did you know that Jared666, Trump’s son-in-law is business partners with Soros in the Cadre Group?????? Hmmm, did ya?
If Pantsuit had won you would have not known of this. They would have already arrived via first class air.
Trump is going to send the National Guard to the border, to help the border patrol.
About God-damn time but too f**king late, I say.
Too late for my Mom, who was mowed down while riding her bike with my Dad by a drunk illegal alien employed by a company in So Cal. Left her in a coma for 1 week, multiple broken bones, 6 months of neuro/physical rehab and a premature dementia and death years later from the head injury. To say nothing of being off work for 6 months and being unable to perform at her previous exceptional level.
Too late for my high functioning autistic son who could not get an educational program and co-teacher because the school district was spending too much money on English as a 2nd language classes. Forcing me to spend $150K on special schooling, which I could afford, but what about the thousands of American citizens with children like mine that cannot?
Too late for my daughter and her friends, in her supposed “magnet” school, bullied on her way home by illegal aliens, who were later picked up by ICE and found to be MS-13. Holy Mother of God, she could have suffered the fate of Kate Steinle, or worse. Again, had to take her out of the school MY TAX DOLLARS WERE PAYING FOR and put her in private school. And move out of Harris County.
Too late for my neighbor that was forced to shoot an illegal alien breaking into her home, precipitating a heart attack that proved fatal for her husband, thousands in legal bills and living in fear that this guy’s friends would seek revenge. Oh, and by the way, this scumbag’s fingerprints showed he had served time for B & E, had a wallet full of other people’s credit cards and a stolen car full of stolen goods.
Too late for my car being broken into by illegal aliens who had also served time for B & E. Twice. A minor thing, but what if I had been in the car? This was prior to the CCL days.
Too late for the thousands of American citizens who are murdered, raped, assaulted and their property defiled by the criminal illegal aliens. Kate Steinle could not be reached for comment. What about them?
Too late for the hospitals forced to spend millions/billions on uncompensated care for illegal aliens while American citizens are forced to cover these costs with higher medical bills and insurance premiums.
Too late for the tax payers who have forced to spend billions/trillions in dollars on education, healthcare, welfare, and incarceration for the millions of illegal aliens over the decades. While experiencing historic levels of un- and under-employement and stagnant wages for 30 years!
Gee, thanks for the diversity! And the cheap vegetables!
Want to hear what I think should be done?
Too bad. I’m going to tell you.
A WALL. To f**king space, with A BANK VAULT DOOR, manned by Marines with .50 cal machine guns and weapons free orders. You try to enter illegally, we shoot you. Period. And we post it on youtube as a warning to others.
DEPORTATION, en masse, of illegal aliens already here. I guarantee it: If you put out a bid for buses (lots), drivers (many) and sack lunches (by the ton), you would fill it by noon and the buses would be rolling by nightfall.
FINE every employer that employs illegal aliens $1000 per day per illegal. JAIL TIME for the employer and RICO his/her assets. Same for the banks that provide banking services. $1000 fine per day per account with an illegal and jail the management staff all the way to the CEO of the bank.
DEPORT the incarcerated illegal aliens. They are 30-40% of the inmates in our local jails and the TCDJ. You end up on a bus on the OTHER SIDE OF THE WALL with a sack lunch and some bottled water. If you are caught committing a crime and are convicted, out you go.
BURN the God-damn Chamber of Commerce to the ground. As well as the office of any open borders or “refugee services” organization that receives billions in tax payer money to facilitate what is basically an invasion of illegal aliens and/or fundamentally unassimilable people into our country.
VISA overstay? No problem, you will pay $1000 per day you overstay when you try to leave or when we catch you. You get to rot in a jail cell until you family can pony up the money. And you have to pay for the jail cell or pick up trash on the side of the road kinda thing to pay your way.
REPEAL the 14th Amendment. Just cuz you are born here, DOES NOT MAKE YOU A CITIZEN. You are a citizen if you are born of 2 American citizens or go through the process.
NO MORE BIRTH TOURISM. Mandatory pregnancy tests on all biologically female visitors. No pregnant women are allowed in. Chinese women, I’m looking at you.
NO MORE PRESS 1 FOR SPANISH, or whatever. You don’t speak English, you don’t get a driver’s license, you don’t get social services, and you don’t vote. Competency in English is an absolute requirement for applying for citizenship or visiting the US.
There ya’ go.
If a person ran on this platform, they would be elected in a landslide.
And for all the bleeding heart liberals out there, until you take in an illegal alien or refugee family and PAY YOUR OWN MONEY for the costs of their housing, healthcare, education and (inevitable) incarceration instead of foisting these costs on the American tax payers, STFU and STFD.
I am sick and tired of bearing the costs, emotional and financial, of your virtue signaling.
One of the best rants ever on TBP. Deserves 100 up votes.
You’re a strong woman, Hope. I suspected that before meeting you in person … and damned well knew it after meeting you. Say “hi” to hubby for me.
Great rant Hope@ZeroKelvin. I wish I could have voted a +1000 on that one…This and the China tariffs are the big elephants in the room that need to be addressed. The rest, including the Fed printing and economic stagnation will follow. If the sheep in this country have to start paying higher prices for things, they may wake up to the scams, and then demand change. The elites have been using illegals, foreign labor and various other arbitrage for decades to cover up all of the deficit spending, grift, theft and basic FU of the American Citizen. Now it looks like the pieces may be falling in to place that will begin to expose the rot. Lets hope that our citizens are not already too far gone to see it, and more importantly DEMAND it change.
@mad as hell: Thank you. I am not totally sane on this issue, I would be the first to admit.
And if somebody like me, that has been a law abiding, (ginormous) taxpaying, military serving, business owner is this pissed off, I can’t even imagine what people less fortunate than me feel.
I am telling you. When the American people finally get the truth about the true costs of illegal immigration, and, as you say, how it has been part of the FU to the American people by the financial/political elites, there will be blood in the streets.
TINWVOWOOT.
@Stucky: Thanks. I hope Admin puts it up top but then he might get kicked off wordpress for such doubleplusungoodbadthink. So sorry to hear about your Dad. My Dad died in 2001, Mom in 2013 and I miss them every day. Being the adult in the room really sucks. Hugs and kisses.