Guest Post by Jordan Peterson
The players of identity politics on the far right continue ever-so-pathologically to beat the anti-Semitic drum, pointing to the over-representation of Jews in positions of authority, competence and influence (including revolutionary movements). I’m called upon–sometimes publicly, sometimes on social media platforms–to comment on such matters, and criticized when I hesitate to do so (although God only knows why I would hesitate ?
So let’s take apart the far-right claims:
First, psychologically speaking: why do the reactionary conspiracy theorists even bother? This is a straightforward matter. If you’re misguided enough to play identity politics, whether on the left or the right, then you require a victim (in the right-wing case, European culture or some variant) and a perpetrator (Jews). Otherwise you can’t play the game (a YouTube video I made explicating the rules can be found here). Once you determine to play, however, you benefit in a number of ways.
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You can claim responsibility for the accomplishments of your group you feel racially/ethnically akin to without actually having to accomplish anything yourself. That’s convenient. You can identify with the hypothetical victimization of that group and feel sorry for yourself and pleased at your compassion simultaneously. Another unearned victory. You simplify your world radically, as well. All the problems you face now have a cause, and a single one, so you can dispense with the unpleasant difficulty of thinking things through in detail. Bonus. Furthermore, and most reprehensibly: you now have someone to hate (and, what’s worse, with a good conscience) so your unrecognized resentment and cowardly and incompetent failure to deal with the world forthrightly can find a target, and you can feel morally superior in your consequent persecution (see Germany, Nazi for further evidence and information).
Second, in what manner (if any) are such claims true? Well, Jews are genuinely over-represented in positions of authority, competence and influence. New York Jews, in particular, snap up a disproportionate number of Nobel prizes (see this Times of Israel article), and Jews are disproportionately eligible for admission at elite universities, where they, along with Asians, tend to be discriminated against (see this Newsweek article). It’s possible that we should be happy about this, rather than annoyed: is the fact that smart people are working hard for our mutual advancement really something to feel upset? What, exactly, is the preferable alternative? In any case, the radical/identity-politics right wingers regard such accomplishment as evidence of a conspiracy. It hardly needs to be said that although conspiracies do occasionally occur, conspiracy theories are the lowest form of intellectual enterprise. Is there another, more credible explanation? Yes. Three well-documented factors in fact appear to be at play:
a) The significantly higher than average IQ of Ashkenazi Jews (see this article in the Economist for a credible layman’s analysis; for a scientific take (one of many) see Gregory Cochran’s work: abstract and full paper). Consider that IQ is the most powerful single determinant of long-term socioeconomic success and influence (my lab has published on this issue). Consider also that the effect of a mean or average difference in IQ is dramatically increased at the tails of the distribution, so that a 10-15 point difference produces increasingly large inequalities in group representation in proportion to the degree that a given job requires higher general cognitive ability. This means that proportional Jewish over-representation increases as the demand for IQ increases. Simply put: if a very complex job or role requires an IQ of 145, three standard deviations above the mean and characteristic of less than one percent of the general population, then a group with a higher average IQ will be exceptionally over-represented in such enterprises.
b) The relationship between IQ and Big Five trait Openness to Experience. Openness to Experience is one of the five cardinal personality traits (Wikipedia will fill you in rapidly if you need more info). Openness to Experience has often been considered the reflection of general cognitive ability or intelligence in personality. It’s what you are referring to when you describe someone as thoughtful, smart, artistic or philosophical. People with high IQs tend overwhelmingly to be higher in trait Openness to Experience (particularly in the Openness to Experience aspect of Intellect (Dr. Colin DeYoung’s lab spearheaded a paper on this issue).
c) The relationship between Openness to Experience and political liberalism: Political affiliation is importantly associated with personality. Conservatives/right-wingers tend to be high in Conscientiousness (particularly in the Conscientiousness aspect of Orderliness) and low in Openness to Experience while liberals/left-wingers tend to have the reverse pattern (low Conscientiousness (particularly aspect Orderliness) and high Openness to Experience. The story is somewhat more complicated than that (which we also reviewed), but that covers the basics.
So, what’s the story? No conspiracy. Get it? No conspiracy. Jewish people are over-represented in positions of competence and authority because, as a group, they have a higher mean IQ. The effect of this group difference (approximately the difference between the typical high school student and the typical state college student) is magnified for occupations/interests that require high general cognitive ability. Equal over-representation may also occur in political movements associated with the left, because high IQ is associated with Openness to Experience, which is in turn associated with liberal/left-leaning political proclivities.
There is no evidence whatsoever that Ashkenazi Jews are over-represented in any occupations/interests for reasons other than intelligence and the associated effects of intelligence on personality and political belief. Thus, no conspiratorial claims based on ethnic identity need to be given credence.
Readers interested in such issues may also be interested in a broader recent critique of the idea of Jewish conspiracy: Judaism as a Group Evolutionary Strategy: A Critical Analysis of Kevin MacDonald’s Theory
Update April 24 2018: A recent critic attempted to take my argument apart arithmetically:
He stated: Different ethnic groups act in a nepotistic manner at differing levels. Some do so more than others.
Your argument is essentially that identity politics does matter not. But it does to Jews, who’s religion and ethnic identity are especially important to them. They even base their whole identity around their victimization in the past by gentiles (Romen Empire, Christians, the Holocaust). Yet, you’re trying to tell us those who play into identity politics are losers? That’s the first problem I’m seeing because even Jews don’t believe that.
Second, if Jews are high IQ, and that means they are more likely to be in positions of power, that would explain their prevalence. Yet, there are VASTLY more white gentiles that have equal or higher IQs than your average Jews. We can do simple math to prove this. If there are 6 million Jews in the United States with an average IQ of 115 (so 3 million are 115+) and there are 200+ million white gentiles with an average IQ of 105 IQ (so roughly 30% are 115+ IQ). So 200 million x .30 gives us 60,000,000 whites with an IQ of 115+. So, we would think, if all things being equal, then that whites would proportionally represented in positions of power commensurate with their IQ and numbers. Jews should, according to the idea that IQ leads to representation in positions of power, should be 5% or so of millionaires (3 million Jews / 60 million gentiles at 115+). But this is not the case. Jews make up a disproportionate number of millionaires and billionaires (40% according to Forbes) according to the IQ theory Jordan B. Peterson is utilizing.
What explains this? Ethnic nepotism, i.e. identity politics. Jews priviliege others Jews with access to power, money, and positions to perpetuate Jewish influence in America.
Yet, Jordan Peterson is telling us there is no idea of Jewish power in America. That’s simply not true when we all know the world runs on money, and no one knows this better than the Jews. That’s why our foreign policy has been about securing Israel’s security. That’s why our politicians get money from AIPAC. Why we send billions to Isarel every year. Why our relationship with the Muslim world has declined because of this one-sided affair.
Here’s my response:
Your cutoff for high IQ is far too low. Try 145 (the figure I cite for serious intellectual advantage) and see how that works. That’s three standard deviations above the general population of mean of 100, not the 115 (one standard deviation) you used. One standard deviation above the average is helpful — it puts you in college — but it’s nothing compared to three standard deviations (in part because of the operation of the Pareto principle).
Three standard deviations advantage for the general population puts an individual at 99.9%. That’s .001 of the population, so .001 X 200,000,000 (using your figures) = 200,000 “white gentiles” with an IQ of 145 or more.
Two standard deviations advantage for the Jewish population (with an estimated mean IQ of 115) means an IQ above 97.7% of the Jewish population. That’s .023 of the population, so .023 X 6.000,000 = 138,000
138,000/(200,000+138,000) = 138,000/338,000 = 40.8% of the 145+ IQ population is Jewish. And you said “40% of millionaires and billionaires are Jewish.”
Isn’t it something how those figures dovetail?
So… anyway…
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2018/04/the-myth-of-jewish-intelligence.html
Logical arguments rely on premises. The claim that Jewish IQ is so much higher than others is constantly echoed, but on critical analysis looks weak.
Total BS…from a guy who has done a lot of good. Jews are not discriminated against at places like Harvard, they are beneficiaries of discrimination against Whites and Asians. Discovery in the lawsuit against Harvard is apparently conclusive on the matter. Second, the high intelligence of Ashkenazis (not other Jews) has been thoroughly debunked….It is based on selective sampling and biased studies. Third, the nepotism and clannishness of Jews is well established, both in the admissions process and in the job market….But Jordan is avoiding the JQ because he is afraid of offending powerful forces.
So true. One thing they most excel at? Self Promotion- claiming themselves the self-declared “Chosen”. As these same Khazars have usurped ever higher ratios of monopoly (via another top ‘virtue,’ ethnic nepotism, in hiring, college entry etc) in the world they dominate and control, their world should become ever more reflective of that intellectual superiority. Instead? With their hegemony in art, education, media, govt, finance… Society has become a corrupt, degraded, uncreative shit hole. As someone who has worked very, very closely with The Tribe in different sectors over 40 yrs in the heart of their own fiefdom? None of these clowns ever had IQ over me or most other goyim in our settings. But their delusions of Chosen grandeur “entitled” them to steal colleagues work, defraud funders, bosses and the public. Ex: Sen Diane Feinstein pushed to sell off US postal realty across America. She appointed her husband to be the national broker to do so, and get 10s of millions in commissions. Off US taxpayer. Like the other Khazar sow, Bezos, who pays zip in postal fees in his MAIL ORDER company. Tazpayer pays his bills. Swindling, usury, fraud… THESE are the basis on which the fake Chosen smugly proclaim their IQ above us. Not genuine competence. As a group? Major MEH. No Michaelangelo, no Da Vinci (no he was NOT jewish), no Bach, Beethoven, Mozart, Sophocles, no Plato, Shakespeare, Bronte or Orwell. Even Einstein is now being outed as mostly a plagiarist of other scientists’ work . Their OT “bible” was a pastiche plagiarized from surrounding cultures. Here is one example of their “ancient traditions” from Pharisee era- now called ‘Spirit Cooking’. Note the guy is wearing a yalmulke. Real contribution to humanity huh? https://www.yooying.com/p/1763274547983632635
Bezos is NOT Jewish. You lie.
lol JIDF, check the date.
Guaranteed Llpoh doesn’t have the stamina to read it.
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2018/04/the-myth-of-jordan-petersons-integrity.html
He went for Peterson’s throat, and got meat.
I went to a school for ‘gifted’ children – you had to be over 135 IQ. I was tested at a 142 IQ. There were about 28 kids in my class (I know cause I was in charge of taking attendance every day). I know there were at least 7 Jews – so they were 25% of the class.
What I remember the most is that they have a continuous, never ending stream of holidays.
Huh.
They seem pretty wholesome in an inclusive live-and-let-live way, as well.
http://semiticcontroversies.blogspot.com/2014/08/the-symbolism-of-murder-in-jewish.html?m=1
I always score between 143 and 146.
So haha, suck it dum dum!
No seriously. There was a question posted ( I think here, a while back ) would you take a pill that lowers your IQ by 10 points for a million bucks.
I was like, give me three of them suckers.
Sometimes I am envious of dumb people and other times I just want to slay them all.
But if I was dumb ( or at least average ) I wouldn’t right?
What is better? Stupid and happy or constantly tormented by your own mind yet somehow oddly satisfied? After 48 years of torment I found my groove, building stone walls, training pigs to do stupid tricks, building mechanical water pumps, watching, waiting, listening,..feeling, being- far from the maddening crowds.
Oh yeah, I am not Jewish- whoops went a little off topic there.
Did the mean boys in gym class laugh at your pig in a blanket?
I’m not sure I understand the premise of the argument. Because ashkenazi jews are really smart, means I have to be taxed to support a foreign country that has the GDP of France and my kids to fight, perhaps die for it’s wars and we get a police/security state due to the resultant blowback in the form of terrorism?
I think I’ll take the holocaust for 100, Alex.
Because ashkenazi jews are really smart, they were able to figure out a way to make you dumbed down goyim pay for their wars to pacify the middle east in all their PNAC glory. And they are laughing all the way to the bank… that they own. Since my own IQ is higher than 49 out of every 50 ashkenazi jews, it is quite easy for me to recognize their accomplishment. Hey, if we’re dumb enough to let them do it, more power to em. It’s better they hold the cards than some dumbed down street gang.
Knowingly exploiting a culture’s measurably high empathy and fairness foundations is a certain kind of smart, sure.
The word you’re looking for is “sociopathic.”
One word for you? Unprogrammed “genius”. U Hit the nail on the head. Ripping others off is their definition of brilliance. As a group? These parasites bring little positive to the table- and that goes thru history too.
This is why we can’t get on fakebook anymore…. or have nice things. 🙂
Not going on Facebook is a nice thing.
The author of this article is himself playing “identity politics” , which is a favorite jewish tactic they use to defuse honest, intelligent criticism of the way jews operate. Throughout history, jews have been kicked out of 109 countries. There has to be a reason.
There seems to be some kind of “mental pathology” in jewish behavior. Jews wish to remain separate while pushing race-mixing, multiculturalism and diversity on everyone else but themselves. This one act is responsible for much of the anti-jewish behavior that other groups subscribe to. This one jewish tactic is responsible for the destruction of many orderly societies.
In itself, overachievment is to be commended. Much good has come out of jewish achievement, BUT, “the fly in the ointment” is the “divide and conquer” tactic that jews use. I have been on this earth a long time and have been able to personally observe many examples of jewish behavior that have proven to be detrimental to society. One is the so-called civil-rights movement in the USA which was largely orchestrated, planned and administered by jews. In fact, the “carpetbaggers” who organized black protests were themselves jewish.
One cannot forget that jewish invention of communism, which has infected the world with deleterious results. As to the Russian revolution in 1917, it is no secret that the organizers, promoters and administrators of communism were primarily jewish. My relatives who suffered under eastern European communism all have a certain hatred for jews, since jews ran the governments of the various eastern European countries in the communist orbit.
Jewish overreach is the one component that gets them kicked out of countries. They are not satisfied with mere co-existence, but have to be “on top” where they eventually exclude everyone but themselves–a prime example of nepotism.
Even when given (actually stolen from the original inhabitants) their own country, they are not satisfied, but want to dominate everyone else. “Diversity and multiculturalism for thee, but not for me” is the jewish mantra.
One aspect of jewry that I have still not figured out is that a jew can be called a shyster, scoundrel, ne-er-do-well, or other derogatory term and it will roll off his back like water off a duck, but call a jew a “jew” and he will recoil in horror, having been “found out”.
It is the “double standard” that consigns jews to harsh criticism…
We mustn’t forget the “holocaust ™” which is the only event in history to achieve “religious cult” status, in which honest investigation is prohibited in many countries. If the “light of day” is truly a “disinfectant” in which truth must prevail, promoters of the jewish holocaust ™ have a lot to answer for…
Anarchyst…
That’s all. Only 109. I agree with the points you make, I just thought it was more like 2 or 300.
I believe that’s only entire countries.
You’re probably right if you include regions, colonies and such.
Some countries, like England, have kicked them out more than once…
You nailed it anarchyst! Theirs is as much a supremacist ideology as the Muslims’.
Particularly irksome is they play the victim card. They wear a sign on their backs that says, “Kick me” and then they complain when their asses get booted.
anarchyst, you are spot on.
Very well said! Expresses my experiences and observations as well as I have known and worked around many in my time.
They just never seem to catch on as to how and / or why they create such disasters and become so hated. And yet, they can’t except criticism as to why they are making things as bad as they are, not just for society, but ultimately themselves. It’s always more, more, more and no self or group awareness of the bigger picture at all. I have never ever known a truly conservative one as well, and that is out of many.
My big beef is how they exclaim themselves to be “white” in the mass media, of which they totally run, and yet personally, are adamant about their jewecy and the fact they are not white. This was the one big lever they used to take all the better jobs. Discrimination and affirmative action on a one-on-one basis and white as far as the public perception goes. Most of the masses in this country have no clue as to what is really going on.
Case in point is the recent drop of support by Yeti for the NRA. I did not realize who they were until a few years ago. All these good old boys had to have a Yeti cooler. Yeti played them like a fiddle, relating to them with their Texas roots and fishing and selling them $500 coolers that they just had to have. I started researching who founded and ran the company and it was none other than the usual suspects. I had to comment on one of the blogs of disgusted people that they should have done their research first and it would have been no surprise that they pulled this stunt.
I love listening to Dr. Peterson and agree with most of what he says, and he’s probably right about what he’s saying here, as far as it goes. I don’t have a problem with Jewish folks as an ethnicity at a personal level or a policy level either. Murray Rothbard was Jewish. There are a great many other people whom I admire with Jewish ancestry. What I have a problem with is The United States of America being hijacked and ran by the Nation of Israel. A nation founded in and maintained by terror. We do not need to be influenced or manipulated by murderous blood soaked terrorists of any nationality. We don’t need Nikki Haley going to the UN and sucking Bibi off.
Wow! I lost some respect for Mr. Peterson, with his short sighted analysis about Jewish influence throughout the world.
See how he didn’t speak of individuals of Jewish descent that are dual citizens of both Israel and U.S.
Nor the number of Jews heading think tanks, industry, political positions , and central banks!
Nor the over abundance of powerful Jews in Hollywood which has the power to massage and create narratives. Nor the billions of dollars in U.S. aid given to the most highly developed and industrial country in the Middle East, ISRAEL!!
Some of Peterson’s arguments are rooted more in a biological analysis with less importance placed on the artificial social structures in place that can contribute to inequalities.
He speaks of Nazis in disdain, yet by suggesting that Ashkenazi Jews as a group have a higher IQ than other races, Mr. Peterson himself reeks of Eugenics, elitist explanations !!
The Ol’ social darwinistic mentality of the misnomer of “survival of the fittest ”
Shame, Mr. Peterson.
Peterson answered the question of how and why Jews dominate in so many things. High IQ. Fair enough. But that’s not the Jewish Question that I’m concerned with. My Jewish Question is why the United States of America should pursue Jews’ goals of open borders, globalism and one world government. And also why the US should be hitched to their seeming goal of destroying their ancient enemy, Russia, one step toward that being their interim goal of toppling Assad to permit oil and gas pipelines to Western Europe. Of course, not all Jews share these goals – only the powerful and influential ones.
Google search this: Israel IS RA EL
And trip out
Peterson’s analysis is correct AS FAR AS IT GOES. But it doesn’t go nearly far enough, as several previous commenters have stated. The problem is not their competence, it is the uses to which certain of them put their influence arising from that competence and I would argue that those uses have not been and are not in the best interests of the United States.
Except that it’s not even correct “as far as it goes” if the premises are wrong, and one of them appears to be unsupported, at best.
Here’s the simple, crass version that anyone should be able to understand: if the Jews, as a group, are SO SMART, why isn’t Israel the most advanced country on earth, more awesome than the fictional Wakanda? I mean, if intelligence is the most important factor (this is a premise that should itself be scrutinized, but superficially it appears reasonable) and the Jews are a full standard deviation more intelligent than anyone else, you would think their Jews-only country would be far ahead of anyone else, rather than a hum-drum second world country, as wealthy as some of the former combloc, relying on foreign “aid” from the United States, Germany and others for much of its budget.
Economic development strongly correlates with national average IQ elsewhere in the world.
Average IQ in Israel is 95…
Because of all the Arabs.
Imagine what the IQ average in the US would be without all the niggers and Mestizo-Indios…
Imagine what the median income in the US would be without all the poor folks. WTF is your point, Moran Steele?
I guess my point is that automation and safer living conditions would prevail without all the antiquated farm equipment draining down the resources of intelligent, productive people in a homogeneous society.
Hell, probably be even safer and higher average income than when the Nordic countries were still 98% white.
Nope. Sure, the Arabs don’t help – but the average Mizrahi and Sephardic IQ is probably in the 90s somewhere, at best. The Ethopian Jews might have an average IQ around 70, being generous – with Arabs being somewhat brighter, I’d guess in the mid 80s.
The Arabs make up around 20% of Israel’s populace, so they’re not going to skew the numbers too badly.
If you wanted to really fuck up Israel, you would start a charity dedicated to bringing Ethopian Jews ‘home to Israel,’ and paying them to have large families for a few generations. Turnabout is fair play, after all.
“Ethopian Jews ‘home to Israel,’ and paying them to have large families for a few generations.”
Except the pseudo-white Jews won’t tolerate this. Although there is 100% certainty that those Ethiopian Jews are actually real Jews, they are prevented from entering as much as possible, and once they enter are locked up in camps and eventually expelled to whoever will take them. Rather like what the Germans once did to many of the Israelis’ ancestors. No, they don’t care or see any irony in this.
A cursory search of news will give you plenty of info on this.
Schwarze Juden are still Schwarze to the (“white”) Juden.
I have collaborated with a fair number of Jews over the past 40 years in the field of science. They have excellent verbal skills, present well and love to debate…but overall they are not inventive people. Why are there so few Jews among the leaders in the arts and sciences between 800BC and 1950AD? (source: Human Accomplishment: The Pursuit of Excellence in the Arts and Sciences, 800 B.C. to 1950 by Charles Murray). As for IQ, it is a crude measure and probably favors Jews for their verbal skills. In the case of Nobel prizes, I would suspect that Jewish money has also rigged the process to favor Jews just as Jews are highly over-represented at Ivy League universities such as Harvard University, even correcting for an elevated IQ.
The Jews took a desert and made it a paradise. Take a look at all the other nations around it. And compare them to Israel. They are slums.
What they did in the western world it take a paradise built by the European people and turned it into a desert. As for Israel, they ethnically cleansed Palestine, stole the land, built a modern country with Holocaust guilt money from Germany and other western nations, and created a Warsaw-type ghetto in Gaza for “cleansed” Palestinians. And we are supposed to believe these are the chosen people of God? The chosen people of Satan would seem more accurate.
No it’s not, as I discussed above…
All my heroes have feet of clay.
HSF – yeah, that was a painful lesson for me to learn.
I no longer have heroes for that reason although I had hopes for Peterson.
Strike one.
HSF, are your heroes all Golems?
Hardscrabble – what I’ve learned as I’ve gotten older is that I don’t have any heroes. Just men I respect and can look in the eye. Feet of clay- we all wear them.
I was waxing rhetorical, but I still admire the guy for standing up to these ideologues with such resolve.
Peterson’s argument is only valid if it’s a normal distribution. For example, even though average IQ for the white population is 105, the number of high IQ might be disproportionately higher than the average might suggest, if the distribution exhibits kurtosis, or skewness, ie. a fat tail. Same holds for the Ashkenazi distribution.
I’ve no idea what the distribution is, but he should have qualified his analysis by asserting the distribution type. Also, if Ashkenazi Jews do have the outsized political influence that most people believe is true, then citing Nobel prizes, or any other prize for that matter, doesn’t tell us much, since all these committees have succumbed to influence peddling and political correctness. No better example than Obama’s peace prize.
Let me assume that Peterson’s stats are absolutely correct; — that a bunch of Jews are really really smart.
Here’s my question: what percentage of those smart Jewish people will do good, and what percentage will do evil? Or, do smart Joos ONLY do good works for us goyim?
IOW, Yojombo is 100% correct. The really important question is what is their effect. No doubt, the really smart Joos have done great things to the benefit of all. The bad Joos, as anarchyst points out, have done horrible things to the detriment of us all.
Then again, it’s also a fairly useless question. Since no one knows how anyone will turn out, well, there’s not a fucken thing we can do about it. I guess we take the good with the bad, although 109 countries (apparently) decided not to sift the wheat from the grass and told their Jewish population to take a hike.
Stucky nailed it! High IQ has nothing to do with whether the person will do good or evil.
But low IQ surely does.
I have heard this “Jews are so smart ” for a while now but these fake so called Ashkenazi jews must have gotten really stupid over the last several decades if you look at the IQ scores in Israel. Besides how smart do you have to be to counterfeit Worthless paper. I challenge any of you to read the History of how these Jews got Control of so many of the nation’s key assets and counterfeiting is the KEY. The thing that pisses me off more then anything is white Anglo-Saxons in our Own government allowed them to do it in exchange for campaign money.
My favorite is “The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion”.
Claimed to be fraudulent and a complete fabrication.
Never debated as to how closely the real-world “accomplishments” follow the path of a book written 120+ years ago.
Actually the word most commonly used to describe them is “forgery”.
Important distinction.
Aren’t the Nobel prizes controlled by Jews; if they were controlled by Blacks, we’d see mostly Blacks winning. Also, how come the self assumed smartest people gave prizes to dolts like Obama, Gore, Mandela etc? Most things Jews control are dishonest frauds, even their supposed history and special covenant with God. Ref “The Unexpected Bible” by Mauro Biglino on Youtube. I believe some Jews invented a history in Babylon about 500BC and then planted scrolls supposedly going back to 1000BC (?) in a temple when they returned to Jerusalem; then they pretended to discover them. They say God gave them the land from the Nile to the Euphrates (Gen 15:18). People that believe Jews are called Goy and Useful Idiots. The Zionist are of their father the Devil. Jesus and most (unfortunately not all) of the Gospel is true; the Shroud of Turin validates the Resurrection story. Jesus loves the Jews and will rescue many (Zech 12-14).
I hate to say this, but Peterson’s meteoric rise in the past 2 years makes me think he is being groomed to be a NEW gatekeeper for some of the NEW paradigms currently being constructed for the 21st century.
I hope I’m wrong….time will tell.
Plato…
I think you are right about him. Just came out of nowhere. He was who I was referring to when I warned some our younger members to not be so quick to hitch your wagon to someone who sounds good.
Flea,
He will be the equivalent of a GEN X version of Noam Chomsky
He speaks with disdain about Nazis and for good reason. For Peterson the biggest problem right now is Cultural Marxism. Get that fixed then the rest shall follow. Shouldn’t it? In the big picture does it really matter which road is taken to get to your goal. Shouldn’t the most important thing be making sure one gets there. If Peterson steps in this and gets labelled as antisemitic it is ovah!
Game, Set and Match.
The Frankfurt School has worked to subvert Capitalism by corrupting the youth. Dropping by any campus of higher education and it is easy to see that it has been a roaring success. So it is best that the Dr. to take the fight back to where it needs to be.
To kill a snake, is it not better to cut off The Head than lop off a tail.
Good thing Cultural Marxism and current Capitalism both have tribal members directing them, right?
Makes it look more like a Hydra than a Snake…
Well now that I think about it the Hydra is a better metaphor but you have to start somewhere?
Art of War stuff. One fights best on a hill where his enemy does not want to be.
It is what the Russians are doing right now in Syria and it is working well for them. Same for Peterson. He is being far effective than anyone else of recent vintage in fighting for Classical Liberal Ideals. So I ask.
Is there a better path?
If so what is it?
Jew haters.
Yobimbo
Muslims
and???
To me it sounded like a thinly veiled smear on Conservatives. He mentioned the left in passing in the beginning but focused his smear on the right.
” the Radical/Identity Politics Right Wingers”.
“The Conservative Right Wingers”.
The rest was just a razzle dazzle window dressing Kahzari Quarterback sneak.
Confirmation bias? Jordan Peterson suddenly loses street cred as he rattles cage of Yo and the boys.
I had nicknamed Yo and the boys, the Q Cux Clan.
I never got a response, just the sound of cuckets.
That’s a cuck in the closet biting his lip with envy.
That’s cause it’s funny.
These people aren’t funny and people have a right to believe what they actually say regarding their goals and their manner of expressing themselves when doing so.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJaAfBOya6Q
Here is what I’m trying to figure out…are there 5 classifications of Jews?
1. Ashkenazi
2. Edomites
3. Israelite
4. Sephardi
5. Yiddish
Some sources:
1. Who are the Ashkenazi Jews? http://lasttrumpet.org/ashkenazi.htm
2. Who are the Edomites? https://www.gotquestions.org/Edomites.html
3. Jesus Was An Israelite: What Is The Difference Between An Israelite & A Jew?
http://www.rense.com/general96/JesusIsraelite.html
4. What’s the difference between Israeli, Yiddish, Sephardi, and Ashkenazi Jews?
https://www.quora.com/Whats-the-difference-between-Israeli-Yiddish-Sephardi-and-Ashkenazi-Jews
I found this interesting this interesting on what I’m supposing is Israelites Vs. Edomites (and the other groups?)
In the Jewish exodus back to Israel the Edomites take our gold with them:
Israelites were not Jews. That’s one of their deceptions.
K,
Do you agree with this link?
Jesus Was An Israelite: What Is The Difference Between An Israelite & A Jew?
http://www.rense.com/general96/JesusIsraelite.html
From what I’ve read and researched, yes I do agree.
K,
What do you thin of this link?
In the Jewish exodus back to Israel the Edomites take our gold with them:
He makes a decent argument. But they’ll just call Cochran a racist and then attack Jordan’s free speech.
James Perloff wrote an interesting article on this topic a year or so ago. He addressed it from an historical and Biblical perspective. I appreciate the history lesson but the theology is way off. One must understand scripture rightly divided in order to understand the problem and make no mistake, there is a problem. His position is anti-Zionist (not anti-Jew) as is my own. How we arrive at our conclusions is different. His article and my response here…
This is very interesting. Stucky, can u pls read this bible stuff and give us your opinion? I was of the opinion that Christian Zionism and Dispensationalism are one and the same. Apparently the good Pastor has another take…
“This is very interesting. Stucky, can u pls read this bible stuff and give us your opinion? I was of the opinion that Christian Zionism and Dispensationalism are one and the same. Apparently the good Pastor has another take…” ———— Zara
I just very briefly scanned the gcp’s article … I just don’t have time to read what appears to be about a 6,000 word article with dozens of sundry Scriptures cobbled together to prove HIS version of dispensationalism ….. because he says even the very founder of dispensationalism (Darby, Scofield, et al) are “very much mistaken in their views”!! That’s some serious hutzpah, and I have zero interest in getting into a religious pissing match.
Now, to your question, ….
1). – REGYOULAH ZIONISM
—– “Zionism” (without the ‘Christian’ modifier) likely first came into the lexicon in 1890, uttered by some dude Nathan Birnbaum.
—– What did he mean by Zionism? Simply that Jews would return to their homeland and regain sovereignty in the Land of Israel. This regular Zionism had both religious and political aspirations and was open to every kind of Jew (liberal, progressive, religious, secular, and even atheistic Jews) to achieve the goal.
2). – CHRISTIAN ZIONISM
—– As a theological IDEA (meaning, not yet codified as some doctrine) Christian Zionism likely started with the Puritans.
—– In 1587 a man named Francis Kett was burned alive for expressing his belief that the Bible prophesied a return of the Jews to their land. In 1607, Thomas Brightman published “Revelation of the Revelation” where he argued that all the prophets confirmed Jews would return to Israel. Others of the same period frequently expressed a similar belief. By the 18th century it was known as the Restoration Movement. In the modern era Christian Zionism got an enormous boost in 1979 thanks to Jerry Falwell and his millions of Moral Majority members where one of its four founding principles was ““support for Israel and Jewish people everywhere.”.
—– What did these people mean by Christian Zionism? Well, as you can clearly see above, that Jews would return to their biblical homeland in Israel. In other words, there is absolutely no difference regarding the end goal. Therefore, a “Christian” Zionist is one who supports the regular Zionist cause. The only difference being that Christians justify their beliefs with Scripture, especially Biblical prophecy ….. especially the NEED for Israel to become a nation so that Jesus can return to Earth as its king.
3) DISPENSATIONALISM
—– John Nelson Darby is the father of Dispensationalism (circa 1830s) and was popularized via the Scofield Reference Bible.
—– What do they believe? Here is a quote from their 1878 Niagra Bible Conference;
“that the Lord Jesus will come in person to introduce the millennial age, when Israel shall be restored to their own land, and the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord; and that this personal and premillennial advent is the blessed hope set before us in the Gospel for which we should be constantly looking.”
Hmmmmm …. “Israel shall be restored to their own land,” … …. lemme think about that …….. HEY, THERE IS ZERO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ZIONISM, CHRISTIAN ZIONISM, AND DISPENSATIONALISM!
[Note: The astute observer will notice the above quote makes reference to “the premillennial advent”. The aforementioned Restoration Movement were POSTmillennialists … while Dispensationalists are PREmillennialists. What this is is theological hair splitting over when Jesus will return – before the 1000 years (millennia), during, after, blah blah blah. Families have split over this shit and enemies made. I don’t care one way or another – even though it is extremely important to many, such as gcp — because it doesn’t matter as to your question, Zara; it’s all the same.]
Sorry about the length of the answer. I tried to keep it as short as possible while still giving you enough info to make your decision.
“That’s some serious hutzpah, and I have zero interest in getting into a religious pissing match.”
Thanks. No worries though, I’m not religious.
“Hmmmmm …. “Israel shall be restored to their own land,” … …. lemme think about that …….. HEY, THERE IS ZERO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ZIONISM, CHRISTIAN ZIONISM, AND DISPENSATIONALISM!”
Noted that you did not have time to read Mr. Perloff’s article either, as that is his point; you know, the point I was countering.
Well, Zara, you could have said “thanks” or even “you’re a fucken moran” or, you know …. something .
I ain’t answering any more of yer questions!
Followed the link and read the article, well done. Dispensationalism has nothing to do with supporting Israel or Zionism.
It doesn’t matter.
Root the foreign/corporate money out of politics.
Punish white collar crime.
Break monopolies.
Stop the wars.
You do those things and it doesn’t matter a single-goddamned iota what any group of people are doing, because you will have shattered the legal loopholes and corruption they use to exert force over the lives of others.
I am a big fan of Jordan, he did not do a good job of addressing the topic, which is atypical. Seemed like a rear guard action to me.
Step carefully.
He is a valuable ally in combating Marxists, and extols both personal responsibility and freedom. He should just stay out of it, if he feels the costs of hard analysis are too great.
Peterson is interesting and says many things I agree with, but this isn’t the first thing I take exception with. You can (or in the recent past could) find one of his lectures on youtube regarding the “illuminati.” Instead of an expose, it’s more of fawning adulation and justification.
Yup, I’ve shared his lectures with a huge thumbs up and I’ve criticized his lectures. Only the Llpohs of the world think so binary that this is an indication of a problem. Or at least pretend to…
What was Henry Ford or Charles Lindbergh’s personal failure? Ezra Pound? Martin Luther?
And “No evidence” of anything other than IQ to explain Jewish success? How do you explain Amy Schumer getting her own TV show and starring in movies? Your move, JP.
or the talentless Adam Sandler…
“Happy Gilmore” was pretty damn funny. But that’s about it.
JP’s biological argument re: IQ + extreme tribal nature + secular humanist philosophy = A BIG PROBLEM
TC…
My cheap phone has a Google news feed that seems half CNN and half Amy schumer with a small s.
We get what we pay for.
So, Peterson went from genius, smartest most insightful guy on the planet to dumbfuck instantly because he took a red hot poker to all your Jew-hating asses.
He said exacly what I have been saying. Jews are successful because they are smart, hard-working, well-edcated, organized, with family values, an understanding of thrift, investment, saving.
Looking quickly through comments above, the number of idiotic counter arguments presented are not surprising. Like the one showing the numbers of Jews at various institutions. That has been debunked in similar fashion as to the one presented by Peterson, showing it relates to where Jews live, in addition to the other factors, especially IQ.
I still love Peterson. Even moreso. Amazing the number of whiney ass losers still clinging to “the Jews are the source of all the problems” hang around here these days.
L-o-s-e-r-s. Destroyed by one of their idols. Too funny.
Identifying problems or patterns in a society that is falling apart must be verbotten.
Well, I guess we all have to pack up and move half-a-world away and fuck sheep instead of figuring out what not to do or who to not have around when the Big Reset happens.
After all, can’t learn anything from history, it’s futile to resist, and you should just surrender your future and any offsprings’ future because you’re a bigot and a racist and a white supremist.
Hahahahahaha! Cry me a river, you loser.
Peterson, who was your hero, bends you over like a two dollar whore, and gives it to you good and hard. And you cry like little sissies. Hahahaha! You shitheads mistook him for a like minded anti-Semite. Instead, he turns out to rely on facts and evidence, and uses those to crap all over your idiotic conspiracy theories. Hahahahaha!
You dolts cannot see the true pattern – smart, hard-working, educated pays off. Lazy, dumb, and ignorant do not. Too bad.
Anyone who uses the label of anti Semite to describe another person is nothing more than a paid shill or useful idiot apologist. Us versus them ad nauseam GETS exhausting!
Which race believes they are “God’s chosen people” and everyone else are goyim?
GTFOFH!
SAME OL’ TIRED APOLOGIST RHETORIC!
I know there are people that engage in hero-worship, and even closely followed this Leaf professor like puppies.
Seems you aren’t into pattern recognition at all, so perhaps you wouldn’t see that every time .gov, Fabians, globalists or whatever you want to call them turn the thumbscrews on what average people call freedoms, another Pied Piper shows up to relieve the pressure.
In the 90s, post-Ruby Ridge, guys like Bo Greitz showed up all over the media to calm people down, when it was primed to blow.
After 9/11, Alex Jones did a fine job poisoning the well with his bullshit theories but no cui bono thought.
When the Tea Party formed from nothing, it was co-opted before the froth on top had settled, but a whole new subset of “Conservatives” were elected to do nothing.
Now Trump seems to be doing a helluva lot of nothing much on the main issues he was elected on, people are once again pissed, and JP pops up out of nowhere to be a “reasonable adult voice” to calm the kiddies down.
You want to rely on his “facts and evidence” then have at it. It’s another case of “buyer beware” from another well-spoken intellectual.
I’ll go about getting set with my neighbors for when this shit-kettle boils over after 100 years together (a play on Solzhenitsyn, if you will)…
@loops – agreed
TPC – this is the best day ever. To see these folks crying their eyes out, scrambling for cover, and claiming the guy they hailed as smartest guy in the world is now dumb as a rock. Peterson knows how to analyze data and facts. And has just facted the shit out of them.
People are right on some things and wrong on other things. Perhaps you know of someone besides yourself that is right all the time?
People who like Peterson when he’s dealing with the topics he’s VERY good are quick to lean into that. You act like people who think he’s amazing shouldn’t criticize him when he jumps the shark into territory he’s definitely not caught up with as well as he is in other areas.
You’re criticizing people for *not* engaging in hero worship and willing to criticize someone they look up to. That’s the complete opposite of hero worship. You’re encouraging hero worship.
Jordon is in over his head on this question, it’s pretty simple. Even the best get in over their head.
You’re not engaging on this out of any integrity and you’re overlooking the integrity of people willing to say “nope, I love the guy but I think he’s wrong here”.
Jordan is an exceptional analyst of data. World class. His analysis of why Jews are successful is 100% correct. It does not fit the anti-semitic position of some folks. So they create fake data, or misinterpret data. Jordan is over his head on this? He would be by far better than anyone who posts on here. On what factual basis can you say he is over his head? What credentials do you have that makes you able to judge. Of all the posters here, my education in this field is by far the best, and it is not even close. And he is absolutely right. The data does not lie. Peterson is data driven. Unlike you reprehensible folks with little peckers making shit up.,
The data does lie. There is a person who walks through the data that Peterson merely parroted, linked as the very first post of the thread. Some of the data Peterson used… the very author of the study itself specifically said it cannot be used to say what Peterson is now claiming it said.
Next you’ll be telling me nepotism was never a part of the monarchy.
On what evidence that can be tested do you, Sir Robin, assert that your education in this field is better than all my sub-platonic forms which have thus far presented their credentialed nature via dialectical and rhetorical memetic shivs?
I think most of Jewish success in America has a cash basis not an IQ basis (thanks to the Federal Reserve Crooked Central Bank System). European Rothschild money funded the early industrialist (ie, owned them), not JP Morgan who was their bag man. Lord Rothschild funded Mikail Khodorkovsky’s purchases of Russian industry until Putin jailed him. Most great Goy ideas and interprizes go nowhere unless Jewish money takes over (Walmart). Probably the founders of Facebook and Amazon would be small potatoes without Jewish cash. I bet the 10% of Americans who own 50% of the wealth are in the Tribe; in addition to the ZOG, we have a crony capitalist system: the ZOE, Zionist Owned Economy.
I guess the success of Indians is also cash based. Look up who is wealthiest in the US. Indians then Jews. Look up IQs of those groups. Look up educational levels of those groups. Your thinking does not mesh with clearly established facts. Maybe Peterson will explain it to you again.
You act like there aren’t overt programs designed to get them opportunities they wouldn’t have if they competed directly.
Perhaps you’ll listen to Chinese filing lawsuits about being discriminated against in favor of Jews and every other group except whites.
You’re so transparent you’re more white than me.
If it was just a matter of IQs, Jews would be pushing vegetable carts because there are so many more Whites, Asians, Hispanics, and others in total numbers (than Jews), that our total numbers of high IQ people would swamp the few total numbers of high IQ Jews. PS: I don’t know if we can establish something as a fact but ask people if they think there is another more snotty elitist aloof self centered selfish greedy know it all ethnic group that loves deceiving and ripping off Americans more than the Jews do. Screw Zionist Peterson.
According to the Old Testament (which is the only religious document that I personally have access to that talks about Jews and their beliefs) Jews can lie, cheat, steal, and even kill with impunity as long as their target is not another Jew. So of course Jews in positions of power will manipulate the rest of us to benefit the Jews, they are mandated by their religion to do so. There are good Jews and bad Jews, but according to the Jews the ones helping us are the bad Jews…
Please provide a Biblical reference for that. I am calling bullshit.
“Unto a stranger thou mayest lend upon usury; but unto thy brother thou shalt not lend upon usury: that the LORD thy God may bless thee in all that thou settest thine hand to in the land whither thou goest to possess it.” Deut 23:20
“For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.” Deut 7:6
Jews are allowed to rob the “strangers” and to possess their property. This tribal distinction also applies to the other commandments, as elaborated in the Talmud.
John – so the only quote you can find is that Jews are allowed to charge interest to stangers. Not even Gentiles. Just strangers. Wow. That is really convincing. I guess lending at interest is a sin, illegal, immoral? And is limited just to Jews?
And who gives a shit what rabbis say. Rabbis, preachers, priests, clergy of any type will say just about any damn thing.
There’s lots of references for God telling the Jews to kill non-Jews and/or God killing the non-Jews for the Jews. Joshua and the battle of Jericho is one of the more famous. Joshua Chapter 6.
Its becoming easily evident for anyone to see that you, LLPOH, are a shill, keep spewing your shit,
I’ve got my popcorn, it’s hilarious
Morans think LLOPH is kidding. The world is definitely upside down when Former Big Dogs are considered a joke and trollish memes are taken for gospel.
Nah he’s not kidding. He’s just playing dumb.
He’s got reason to.
She had it wrong, not OT but Talmud.
http://rense.com/general92/talmud.htm
Looks like Jordan triggered a certain snowflake. What a surprise!
You poke around Yo’s vagina long enough and you’ll find his Jew spot.
EC – yo is again losing his mind. One of his heroes has turned on him with facts, and has kicked him in the nuts over his indefensible factless positions and crazy conspiracy theory.
Best. Day. Ever.
Your anti-white is showing…
I love white folks. Some of my best friends are white. Too bad they are going to be a minority in the States soon enough. Get used to the idea. It is a certainty. Best start making accomodations. Hispanics and blacks will rule the place. The door was left open and the horse done bolted.
Not a chance.
For someone criticizing others for being anti Semitic you sure do spout off racist shit!
I’ve lived in the Great Valley of California for most of my life, I’ll be 40 this year,
And I grew up in an ethnic neighborhood predominantly Latino, not Hispanic you ignorant Dick!
Having light skin IN my neighborhood, YOU WERE THE MINORITY!
Nothing wrong with it either!
Many of my friends are Mexicans! Love their culture!
Not too proud of the MONO culture being sold to the world as AMERICAN!
Consumerism, materialism, idol worship, and constant entertainment and neon i-distractions
Some of the more egotistical amongst us refuse to accept it, get used to it and quit your bitchin
Now wait a minute here Yoji. A couple months back a video was posted here on TBP of Peterson taking Q&A in New York after some speech. Maybe someone can find the link. I can’t right now because hockey is on TV and I am trying to figure out a way to have two teams lose in the same game. It is long story and one most Yanks won’t understand. See being a Habs Fan I hate both the Leafs and The Bruins.. I digress. Well sort of, as it seems I have something in common as far as intent with the Good Professor.
Anyways someone had stood up and asked a question about the Jews. The dreaded and loaded so-called Jewish Question. He said at the time that he “didn’t want to go there”. He must have known then he wouldn’t win by answering. So he didn’t and lived to fight another day.
A quote from Patton comes to mind.
The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his
I do remember you and several others taking time to take some piss out of him. Said he copted out in avoiding the question. Maybe he is still doing it. But so what.
One wrong move and his platform is destroyed. He cannot effect change if the only place he has an audience is on the Daily Stormer. Yeah it ain’t fair. Yes it is easy to point to all sort of Zionist apologists that get a pass everyday. Ben Shapiro and his recent support for the bombing of Syria by Israel comes to mind. But dammit it is cultural Marxism that needs to be destroyed right now. Why is it that the extremes see the only way forward is to burn everything to the ground first.
And talk about Hubris! Each side is so confident of victory that they spend their days lusting for that final writ to drop. And when a new star rises and comes on the scene they all want him on their team. And if he doesn’t play then its out the door and on his way.
Peterson can’t win for losing with some folks here. The reason he felt need to answer the question is he gets constantly asked which team he is on. It is sad that it ain’t good enough that he makes a very compelling argument against Cultural Marxism and Post Modernism. .
He gets dog piled at every turn. He obviously felt the need to address it. He has. The Extreme Left still can’t call him an anti-semite. The Extreme Right is still pissed off that he won’t sing from their book.
Peterson has done something that pisses off everyone he despises. Somehow he has made sure both teams lose.
A win for him if you ask me….
Can’t get rid of cultural marxism unless you get rid of “we’re all equal so any imbalance is wrong” that is in constant dissonance with “can’t criticize our imbalance cause it’s only because we’re smart and remember how many many less of us died than Christians in that one war a long time ago, and we may have had a heavy hand in that whole communism mass murder thing, but we made a lot of movies about our story?”
Fuck Marchand, The Rat. We’ll see those fucking Bruins Saturday at 3 PM.. Fuck ’em and feed ’em fish heads… Go Bolts!!!!!
I am rooting for the Bolts too. All the way the finals..
Good man, Robbie…We need you on our side…. Thanks…
“You are a selfish, arrogant, narcissist, interested only in your own welfare.” – Yo
LLPOH, I think YoBo has got a little man-crush on you.
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Some people on this site are dumber than fuck.
Open borders for thee but not for me.
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Food for thought
A day after Jim Quinn’s article and conservative future political representative is shunned by Fakebook
WE get this guest post about “The Jewish Question ” from Jordan Peterson.
Timing, timing… timing
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https://plus.google.com/116552287217847892988/posts/dVWuo7ubaQb
In shadows
13 minute artistic critique of our predicament
The Jews control America, hate the Christians, the Constitution, and the First and Second Amendments; and the Talmud and Tanakh tell them to kill Goy for God. What could go wrong?
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Hahaha! What a bunch of crybaby losers. Peterson has diagnosed you losers 100% accurately, and you are losing your minds.
Best. Day. Ever.
not a good sign for trump’s muslim ban–scotus justices,what if trump banned jews?
http://www.speroforum.com/a/AYKQWKECIL19/83240-Justices-Kagan-and-Sotomayor-ask-what-if-Trumps-executive-order-banned-Jews?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=CWCDRYVLMR16&utm_content=AYKQWKECIL19&utm_source=news&utm_term=Justices+Kagan+and+Sotomayor+ask+what+if+Trumps+executive+order+banned+Jews#.WuFZ2G4vyM8
Yo yesterday: Peterson is the smartest, most insightful, most brilliantest guy in the world!
Yo today: Peterson is a dumbfuck shit for brains who don’t know nuffin!
Hahahahahahahahaha! Beautiful. Just brilliant. Talk about getting hosed. Blowing him one day, getting bent over the next. How sweet it is!
Peterson, your hero, done called y’all reprehensible. Damn, that is some serious butthurt he be giving y’all. I mean, it is like your best girl dropping you because you have a little pecker, while telling the whole world all about it.
Yup, Yo and his kind have little peckers. And Peterson done told the whole wide world all about it. After they had professed everlasting, undying love for him.
That sure nuff is funny. You boys better move town. You are the laughingstock of TBP, what with your little peckers and all.
LLPOH says “The Jew’s are just smart, stop being a crybaby” and then says on a different thread just days ago that The Burning Platform is going to be shut down some day because we discuss the JQ.
LLPOH, are you a Jew?
Yup, Jew Choctaw, that is is me. The issue is all the anti-semitism. The fake news, holocaust denial, Hitler adulation, etc. That is dicey stuff for a site to have as commonly as seen on TBP.
What is your point? I see no inconsistencies.
Cultural Marxism is being perpetrated by Jew’s. This is a huge part of Yo’s message and you have agreed with him by those statements.
Not by any Jews I know, and I know a lot. The ones I know are rabid capitalists.
So, Wip, you are reprehensible too. No doubt with a little pecker. Sucks to be you.
So, you admit Jew’s may shut this site down because of the JQ and then say they are smart (I suppose you’re saying its smart to push censorship by the smart Jew’s) and then say “Don’t look over there you blankety blank”. Why the name calling?
For the record, I am only interested in truth. I do not believe LLPOH or YO are the owners of whatever the truth is to the JQ.
The Jews you know LLPOH are rabid capitalists?!
I bet….usury is always in high demand for the goyim…
The douchebag who brought us the Rio Earth summit and Agenda 21, canadian industrialist, Maurice Strong once admitted, “I’m a socialist in ideology, and a capitalist in methodology ”
Do as our masters say not as they do. Pretty much how communism has worked historically speaking.
Environmentalism is used as an excuse to divvy up control of resources for these rich cocksuckers who don’t give a fuck about us or the planet for that matter
LLPOH says they are smart enough so they can do whatever they want. I think the Golden Choctaw is a Golden Jewish Choctaw.
Me thinks that he married one….
“Gish gallop” is a technique used during debating that focuses on overwhelming one’s opponent with as many arguments as possible, without regard for accuracy or strength of the arguments.
And Yo takes as a compliment. Accuracy, honesty, nor integrity are Yo’s strong suit. But he sure can cver a thread in shit.
What did his hero Peterson call him again? Reprehensible. Yup, that was it.
There’s still E. Michael Jones.
I would like to thank Jordan for taking his straw dog for a walk in our park. There is reason to his treason, imo. And the reason is: all the responses found here. He takes a position acceptable to most non goys and issues forth stereotypic logic couched in politically correct terms. He uses a razor edge implement, shaving with Occam’s tool.
I was raised to believe Jews valued education. And loved the joke “Jesus Saves, Moses Invests”. In 4th grade we had a Jewish married couple over for dinner. My parents were concerned about the rules for proper food etiquette. My father told me the Air Force officer guest was Jewish and very smart, and educated. This from a man who did not graduate from high school, lying about his age and joining the army at age 16. And his whole life he bemoaned the fact he missed out on education. He did acquire a master’s degree ultimately. And emphatically encouraged me to do my best with the opportunities before me. Which I did, doing my best to be as good as a Jew.
I looked at them as competition and as reason to up my academic game. Not only did I feel compelled to do well in school, because the Russians had plans to bury us, but I did not want to be outperformed by the ones who value intelligence and education as a touchstone.
In undergrad I had two Jews who lived next door in the apartment complex. One had the highest GPA average upon graduation. Both became physicians. One became head of a department at a leading Jewish hospital. They came from a tradition I respected and they confirmed my prejudice. We shared stories and experiences about booze, pot, women, typical college stuff. In retrospect I can see evidence of their sense of superiority and inclination to use others for their personal gain, as if they were exempt from cultural imperatives of empathy I was burdened (?) with.
At Emory dental I had many Jewish classmates, many close friends (the closest thing I have to war buddies). Some were rich scions, some rising on academic merit. In 1970 long hair on men was suspect in the South at a Christian university. And I was surprised that the smartest Jew classmates had the longest hair. Only they could get away with it as their grades were superior. And many of my cheap, night-hospital-labor classmates were Jewish too. I have said before they recognized me for my Jewish tendencies in thoughts and actions, bestowing on me the title of honorary Jew. I was pleased with the title.
And on the stereotype of the Jewish lawyer. They study the law, and learn it well. All the better to manipulate with unintended consequences of the law/canon. And reportedly, have no compunction if someone gets screwed, especially if they are goy. And I have come to believe the exposure to the Hebrew alphabet breeds higher thinking skills. My paltry understanding believes that each letter/symbol takes a different meaning depending on what orientation it has on the page. So you can hide words inside words. All it takes is to shift the up – down – sideway position to make a new word. Kabbalistic krap does require autistic like dedication.
I have come to see similarities between Jews and Muslims. I once believed all religions were good, just different ways to acknowledge a higher power. My childish thinking has matured.
J & M’s appear to have hidden agenda’s, or plans and beliefs stacked against the out groups.
Pork sanctions are another similarity. But what I have come to see is they believe they are the chosen people. That non clan/cabal members, the goy/infidel are cattle. And their deep state thinking commands subjugation (subjewgation?) and exploitation of other race/groups.
Which brings me to my current Epiphanous thinking. That Islam was created to thwart Christians. Or at least fostered by Jews. I believe a reaction to Christian zealots and their malfeasance was predictable in the ME.
“But Wikipedia tells me that straw dogs were ceremonial objects in Ancient China, used to replace real dogs in sacrifices. So, perhaps a “straw dog” argument is just that – a sacrifice on the altar of open and frank discussion.”
IMO, that’s the best thing you have ever written on TBP KS
Well said. Blanket castigation of any ethnic or religious group is prejudicial and immoral. However while behavior is individual there are cultural and social mores that influence it and to the extent they incline it to good or evil should either be praised or censured. This is why I tend to separate Zionists from Jews. Most Jews are not evil. Pretty much all Zionists are.
Kicking in the pussy is “Nope! LOL”?
That’s truly the best you fine folks have.
YoBo is the proverbial 500 pound canary in TBP. Nobody can outdo his billboard, oodles of cash contributions and all the noobs he’s lured here. We owe the parochial pussy so much.
I would disagree with YO if the things he posted weren’t actually true, and aren’t easily accessible online. Like the Tim wise and Barbara spectre. Just because people expose some extremist jews or zionist, doesn’t mean all jews are evil and it doesn’t mean they are antisemites for exposing these influences in the west, its a typical double standard when cuckservatives will openly criticize muslims for terrorism, but one word about the jew and its turns into an ad-hominem screech fest “anti-semitesim anti-semitism!!”
Great new interview on the Jew Question by E. Michael Jones
https://youtu.be/5FfSvb0OwcU