Psychology professor and daughter credit carnivorous diet with curing autoimmune illnesses and depression
Mikhaila Jordan and her daughter, Scarlett. Jordan ate LCHF throughout her pregnancy. She now eats about 1.5kg of meat a day and drinks lots of water.
Canadian Mikhaila Peterson shares more than DNA and a depressive tendency with her famous father, Dr Jordan Peterson, the Toronto University psychology professor, author of the best-selling 12 Rules For Life: An Antidote for Chaos and self-proclaimed “professor against political correctness”.
Father and daughter have also become global poster children for the benefits of a carnivorous diet. Both credit it with reversing all symptoms of debilitating autoimmune illnesses and depression that plagued them for decades.
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A wholly carnivorous diet is on the extreme end of the low-carbohydrate, high-fat (LCHF) spectrum. It is also a “ketogenic” diet, in which the body turns fat into ketone bodies to use for fuel, instead of glucose.
I’d date a meat eater instead of a “slave-food” eater.
Her creatine level must be sky high and her piss probably smells like fresh boiled asparagus, but I bet she has energy and endurance for days (in bed).
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Breakfast of Champions.
Protein, starch, dairy, salt. It’s a “drink water and run or die” kind of diet.
High carb low fat diets should be called killer diets.
But that’s what they want. For us to be unhealthy so the health care scam can continue.
M C
I lost 42 lbs in 4 months ketogenic 95% meat diet. Gained back 8lbs in the month and a half since i stopped.
I started eating the wegmans organic bread. I was informed the ingredients are all gmo. Yet grown organically. Wtf wegmans.
Ezekiel bread is the only non gmo bread available.
I’m a carbs addict, especially bread.
I have wicked stomach issues which started the ketogenic thing, and after those problems went away, i went back to my old ways.
Also have eczema which pops up when i am not on ketogenic diet. Probiotics help with the eczema alot.
Ketogenic is soooooo boring. I gotta get back to it. It works.
Do more research, there are no GMO wheat, oats, spelt, rye or any other grain typically used to make bread on the market. Most corn, soy, canola, sugar beets and cotton grown in the US and Canada are GMO.
No GMOs can receive organic certification anywhere in the world.
I have found this German made whole rye bread at Biglots and health food stores.
It is the best. Rye has a fraction of gluten that wheat has and especially American GMO wheat. Europeans don’t allow GMO.
This bread is also wholly sourdough, which makes it so much better to digest.
The only alternative is baking sourdough rye bread from freshly ground organic rye at home, which we frequently do. (with home made sourdough).
There are truly only two ingredients necessary to make bread: Freshly ground flower and water.
Posts on diet always bring about a lot of comments. Everyone has an opinion. I could eat nothing but ribeye, although Dr. Joel Furman’s book Eat to Live is pretty convincing that a low-carb plant-based diet (animal products in moderation) is probably best – for most people. Jordan Peterson and his daughter could be the exception. “Greens and beans”, as Furman calls it (with nuts for needed calories and a bit of fruit). I think the main thing most people need to eat is less.
Weight loss is about calories. Period. Man dropped from 334 lbs to 217 lbs on a diet of only potatoes: https://www.menshealth.com/weight-loss/a19536403/can-the-potato-diet-help-you-lose-weight-safely/
So Jordan let this system drown his own daughter in a disgusting coctail of drugs. No one in this demonic system has any problem doing that to people, and yet he thinks the world isnt capable of massive conspiracies? So I guess all these people simply believe they are “helping”.
Yes, they believe that they are helping. Unfortunately, they aren’t smart enough to help, just pass their exams in whichever crap school they managed to sneak into. The vast majority of educated people are too stupid to help. They can only serve as mouth pieces for the criminals that are trying desperately to convince you to buy their shitty garbage food.
“The vast majority of educated people are too stupid to help”. Sounds like you need to listen to Jordan a bit closer. The vast majority of educated people are just that, educated. To put a stupid label on them is interesting at most.
CC, being educated does not equate with being smart. It equates with being able to pass tests. Clearly you have not watched very many JP videos or you would know that he castigates people with PHDs all the time. Hell, most of the people with PHDs in the shithole colleges that you send your poor kids to are so stupid that they dye their hair blue and spout socialism to the impressionable young minds that you pay to send to college. Some of them are so stupid that they hit people with bike locks because they believe in freedom of speech. You can’t have freedom of speech in a marxist utopia. Yeah, I would say many of the educated people are real stupid and you can call them what ever you like.
So now it’s many and not most. You are one deranged stupid uneducated douchebag. Must be tough be the stupid one who didn’t think that post HS education was necessary. You did get your HS diploma didn’t you, or is that stupid too.
You’re conflating credentials with knowledge. Just because someone has a degree does not make them intelligent or knowledgeable and the absence of one does not equate with ignorance and stupidity.
That Peterson, a heavily credentialed academic, allowed his daughter to take “15 medications to wake up in the morning” says volumes about the value of all his degrees. I doubt that there is a physician on Earth who could begin to understand the contradictions and complications that would exist with someone taking that many pharmaceuticals simultaneously, never mind the long term consequences on her health.
That said eating four pounds of meat daily with no supplemental nutrition seems to me to be equally risky, but it sounds better than what she was doing.
To each his/her/its own.
Are you familiar with deer farming? What’s your opinion…
Up front, I do not mind family/friends hunting our land, but am worried because a deer farmer has moved in up the road..
For sake of clarity since your region may call it something else. It is more than just leasing hunting spots…it is to harvest venison.
I kinda do not like the idea.
Venison is a densely nutritious meat like grassfed beef. Itmakes sense, but…
Far too much effort for far too little payback. Much higher fences required to keep them contained, much more difficult animals to work with when it’s time to slaughter and a very small market you’d have to work very hard to get into (high end restaurants).
That’s without mentioning the USDA hurdles you’d have to jump to satisfy them and unless you’re producing hundreds almost impossible to book into an approved slaughterhouse and that’s even if they would take them.
I’d put it right up there with ostrich and alpaca as bad livestock choices for American markets.
Is kind of what I thought… are you seeing the email issues EC mentioned? I did. On my little tablet I use now? I ended up seeing TWO people who post here occasionally in the “Name” box on two separate logins…
And their emails.
I’m going to email at least one to verify and let them know. The other one I didn’t see long enough or close enough to remember.
Weird? Or a hacking attempt? I had NO IDEA. I had to jump off the rutabaga truck.
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Deer farming turned into another political scare.
There is a deer farm in Missouri where the deer got sick with the so called “wasting disease”. It’s because they fed crap to the deer, the deer are not designed to eat and thus got sick.
Now every deer season the news papers are full of warnings from “wasting disease”, “…. get your deer checked ….” panic.
The wild deer that eat what they are designed to eat, don’t get sick.
But I suppose this is just another scare to keep people from harvesting healthy natural foods and instead drive them into Walmart to buy and consume the sickening processed stuff.
The high protein/low starch diet works for autoimmune patients. The problem is sticking with it.
Our family diet is mostly LCHF, but damn do I still love potato chips, french fries and bread. Those things are also very hard to avoid when not cooking at home.
Seasonality cannot be overstated. The things that your body requires based on the time of the year is directly proportional to what is found in those foods that are available in that season. Right now it’s asparagus, eggs, trout, fiddle head ferns, dandelion greens, nettles, leeks, violets, stinging nettle and knot weed. Meat is a constant for us and in much larger quantities than the average American would eat and none of us have health or weight issues. We consume very little processed foods although we are not militant about it. If someone offers a sandwich or a cookie when we’re visiting we don’t turn our nose up at it, but it isn’t something that is a regular part of the diet.
HSF, have you ever heard of the “Mystery Keeper” tomato? I’ve been growing them for a few years now in my neck of the woods. I still have two left, from 2017’s harvest. Yes, that’s right, I picked these tomatoes in late September and they’ve been sitting in a cardboard box in a spare room in my house since – and aren’t even totally ripe yet. I haven’t had to buy a tomato since last July.
So even eating seasonal and local vegetables doesn’t have to mean nothing by carrots, cabbage, potatoes and rutabaga for 6 months a year.
All right, I’ll bite. Where do I get some mystery keeper seeds. Please.
http://mapplefarm.com/
I got mine here back in about 2012 or so, since then I’ve just saved my own.
Learn your roots and you can eat like a king.
(Lear, when he was crazy in the woods…)
Kinda glad this got popped up. I missed it last year, ironically due to severe digestive failure.
Meat, local Flora and fruit. And honey.
Filtered water unless deep well procurement is available.
Fermented foods. Good beer counts!
Personally, I think who people are fanatics about their diets, of whatever kind, and exercise have underlying psychic disturbances. As for Ms. Jordan, I’m glad she feels better. But for all I know, her improvement may have more to do with her decision to start asserting her own judgment instead of passively listening to “experts.” Feeling that you are captain of your own ship instead of the victim of circumstances has a remarkable way of banishing depression and improving your health.
“Beef. Real food for real people.” Remember that commercial?
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Eventually suffered a massive heart attack caused by coronary artery disease.
Karma?
Everyone’s body is different. The key is figuring out what your body can handle.
There are folks that shouldn’t eat a pile of meat and there are those who can live on it. Same with bread and starches.
If I eat bread/pasta in any quantity it wreaks havoc on my body. It inflames my AS, causes rapid weight gain and causes problems in my gut. I also get pretty unpleasant fatigue. If my wife sets a big plate of pasta in front of me it is like looking at a plate of poison from my perspective. She’s figured out I won’t eat very much of it and has adjusted her cooking routine to accommodate.
If I stick to meat, fruits and leafy veggies I seem to do well. My blood pressure stays low, my weight stays healthy, my guts are normal and I can exercise vigorously without extra effort.
I don’t know why. It just is.
Find what works and stay with it.
Smoking.
He was 86 when he died, which means he only lasted 7-8 years longer than the average American male. Yeah, it must have been the meat.
“I smoked marijuana for 50 years. I don’t know where I’d be without it.”
-James Garner
Cows fed grain are bad for ya. They are range animals and eat grass. Grain makes them sick. Don’t eat such disgusting food or you will suffer a massive heart attack caused by coronary artery disease.
Same goes for eggs. Pasture raised chickens lay eggs that are healthful to eat. The other eggs are disgusting.
You are right. The lipid profile of a grain-fed ruminant is completely different (i.e. inferior) to one fed its natural diet of grass. Cows never ever ate grain, per se, as they evolved.
I have a cousin whose sun is autistic . He eats only French fries, tater tots, pancakes and one cereal . That’s all he’s eaten in the last 5 years. For the first 16 years he only ate French fries. He’s not overweight either .
I guess our bodies can adapt to anything .
I prefer the meat diet. In 2011 I was eating about 3 pounds of meat a day and was working out 2.5 hours,5 days a week.
I lost almost all of my fat and put on 5 pounds of muscle in 6 months . Looked pretty awesome…then Mr Cancer struck…..which wasn’t caused by the diet .
Three POUNDS of meat …. per DAY??? Holy shit!
Just curious … are you saying meat didn’t cause your cancer, or that meat does not cause cancer?
Quite a few studies out there that say excessive meat eating contributes to cancer. Not that I give a flying fuck about studies anymore cuz there are probably just as many that say meat does not contribute to cancer. I’m not a biologist, doctor, etc., so there is really no foolproof way of me knowing whom to believe. So, fuck ’em all.
Dr. Mercola can help…
How did the dental ordeal go?
This high carb diet is a big reason for autism and other metal issues:
https://www.shop.gapsdiet.com/product.sc;jsessionid=E282D45081525EBD5C48C618C1A43CD1.p3plqscsfapp002?productId=1&categoryId=7
” Both credit it with reversing all symptoms of debilitating autoimmune illnesses and depression that plagued them for decades.” ———— article
Oh, yeah … based on a sample size of TWO. hahaha I don’t give a rat’s ass if that’s what they want to do, but to draw conclusions from a sample size of two is beyond fucken retarded.
Healthy athletes die on the field. They are people who smoke two packs a die who live into their nineties. Should they advocate tobacco as the secret success to their longevity?
Humans evolved over many eons (or, created, if you will) eating ALL three food groups; protein, fats, and carbs. ALL three contribute to what we are today. Each food group has SOMETHING the other does not have, or have enough of. As such, totally eliminating one or more entire food group is also beyond fucken retarded, IMHO.
Stucky…no…cigarettes and reefer was James’s down fall …not beef .
It is easier to change people’s sex habits than to change their eating habits. I wuz married to an Anna
(anorexic) and dated another who had been to treatment. She said it best, “Everyone is an expert” when it comes to diet. At Emory dental (70-74) we received the latest and greatest info on nutrition so we could advise patients. Wuz a member of the Southern Academy of Clinical Nutrition for many years.
I used to eat 4000 calories a day and not gain a pound. Also was told by classmates to eat some carbs because I had keto breath…
Nutrition advice is mostly a crap shoot. One thing I do is avoid processed foods. And avoid sugar/ carbs as much as I can. And get exercise! Intermittent fasting goes a long way in my book. gimme meat eggs cheese and butter. Luckily I tolerate lactose. I do sneeze when I eat peanuts but love ’em. If I cut out my bread-with-mayo sandwiches I most likely would live another decade.
My best advice is eat a fist sized portion of protein and a thumb sized portion of carb (veggies/ bread)
“My best advice is eat … a thumb sized portion of carb (veggies/ bread)” ——– KS
Thumb sized???? Ho. Lee. Fuk. Shaking my head in bewilderment.
KeyserSusie’s mom wasn’t know for making the best sandwiches.
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I am flattered by your attention of derision. Think a fist sized piece of meat and two slices of bread. Or a 120z steak and potato or some nutritious veggie. Thanks though for the meme, I needed a good laugh. And for anyone who actually does physical labor for a living, all bets are off. The best part of rehabbing my hurricane ravaged home was eating like a horse and drinking like a fish. I still lost weight.
My stepson does Keto.
I had never heard of a “fat bomb”
Pure coconut oil, sorbitol(sweet) and cocoa for dark chocolate flavor.
They EAT that as a treat.
Thank God the autistic Cherokee kid is smart enough to NOT eat that.
Explorers and fur traders lived off of Pemmican – meat and fat.
From Wikipedia:
Traditional method of drying meat for pemmican demonstrated at Calgary Stampede
Chokeberries (Aronia prunifolia), sometimes added to pemmican
Pemmican is a concentrated mixture of fat and protein used as a nutritious food. Historically, it was an element of First Nations cuisine in certain parts of North America. The word comes from the Cree word pimîhkân, which itself is derived from the word pimî, “fat, grease”.[1] It was invented by the native peoples of North America.[2][3]
Pemmican was widely adopted as a high-energy food by Europeans involved in the fur trade and later by Arctic and Antarctic explorers, such as Sir Ernest Henry Shackleton, Fridtjof Nansen, Robert Falcon Scott, and Roald Amundsen.
Red Salmon wild caught from AK is the best……..much better than meat. Eat more baked beans;too. Tuna is good,after salmon Sardines come in third.
Be careful of Tuna, it’s filled with mercury, one of the most toxic substances on earth. Sardines are a true super food, small in size so there is nominal mercury, high in omega fats and rna (I like the two layer ones packed in olive oil with jalapenos – mmmmm).
Beer, sardines and hard tack…
Stuck….eat’en pussy caused my cancer….when I was on the taco diet .
You can avoid long term heart trouble when on LCHF by taking a tablespoon of high quality fish oil daily, which provides the omega 3 counter balance to the omega 6 in LCHF.
Don’t listen to the medical profession, especially in US. They want you chronically sick to maximize profits (e.g., “the unsolvable cancer challenge”). Their goal is disease ‘maintenance” until they put you in the ground when you run out of insurance and then cash. Cancer “treatment” expected to generate $150B in revenue by 2020. No one in medical establishment wants to cure cancer (and there is already a known cure, but only the elite who can pay get it -Michael Douglas – incurable stage 4 throat cancer miraculously cured -poof). Cancer cells cannot breathe and reproduce when you have high alkaline blood levels.
The war on cancer is every bit as much of a scam as the war on drugs.
The problem is that when you get diagnosed you don’t think…hmmm let me look into other means of a cure for the next few months.
Great article. Thank you.
Please note in the article: “Both are off all medication.” And that’s exactly why the establishment is going to fight this diet tooth and nail, because it would mean the end of the reckless pharmaceutical industry, which the bible calls witchcraft and poison.
I am on the LCHF myself for a year and a half now and it has benefited me greatly. But after reading this, I will up the meat some more.
The problem is the source of the meat. Anything you get in a restaurant or at Walmart usually comes from a feed lot were modern off-breeds of cattle are fed a very unnatural diet of pesticide laden GMO corn and GMO soy plus pumped full of hormones and antibiotics, which are passed right to the consumer.
I am very blessed to have a source of pasture raised longhorn beef near by. Theses longhorns eat nothing but grass and that’s exactly what their creator has designed them for. It is also the leanest beef that I know of . The only meat leaner yet is buffalo raised on buffalo grass. The bible commands us to eat no animal fat and of course our creator knows what is good for us, because he designed our bodies.
Weston A. Price writes in his 1935 published book “Nutrition and physical degeneration”, that in all his travels around the world examining the indigenous people, that had not been perverted by a western diet, that he never found a single people group living on a vegan diet. On the contrary, some of them marched distances of over 100 miles to obtain meat (fish). And the Eskimos then lived of a 98% carnivorous diet very healthily. Price reports of an Eskimo man coming back from a hunt carrying 100 lbs in each hand and an additional 100 lbs of prey held by his teeth, going for many miles like this. I don’t think any western athlete could carry 300 lbs for miles and miles.
And then there is this mem of “We can’t sustain a carnivorous lifestyle, the cattle destroys the environment”.
Allan Savory proved how grazing actually reverses the desert to pasture:
Where I live in southern Missouri, I see thousands of acres of pastureland unused, growing scrubs. Then imagine all those useless corn and soybean acres just in Iowa turned back into pasture, then Illinois, Indiana, Kansas, Nebraska, the wide open Montana, ….
Why would you do something so stupid?
Why is it stupid?
Maggie is trolling in long dead posts. She got embarrassed when I did it to her so now she is trying to do the same thing to me. It is a tactic right out of Alinski’s Rules for Radicals. Her name is fake to confuse you but she isn’t smart enough to leave out the references to Missouri. I mean really, it is pretty stupid to go back and comment on a post from almost a year and a half ago?
Valid question Trapped. Hope that made some sense.
Experienced is an occasional commenter..
Other people live in Missouri.
Sure they do maggie. And you make up fake names all day long. How are we ever to divine the truth?
Of course, the pastures would need to be replanted with the heirloom grasses that fed the giant herds!
Are you near Malden?
Native grasses would be nice. I am in West Plains.
Think the soils would still support those old grasses? Has Monsanto ruined the alluvial plains?
TiP