I thought this was a done deal. Q and the Trumpeteers told me so. Did Trump get played?
Update: The White House says it’s hopeful that its planned meeting with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un will move forward, though it’s prepared for tough negotiations, Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders told Fox News.
“He’ll be there, and he’ll be ready” White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said of Trump in a Fox News interview Wednesday, adding that North Korea’s threat to back out of a denuclearization summit isn’t out of the ordinary.
“We’re ready to meet, and if it happens that’s great, but if doesn’t well see what happens,” she said. “If it doesn’t we’ll continue the maximum pressure campaign that has been ongoing”
The summit is set to take place June 12 in Singapore.
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North Korea has threatened to pull out of next month’s peace summit with Washington if the US insists on the peninsula hurriedly giving up its nuclear weapons without offering immediate sanctions relief.
After blaming joint South Korean-US military exercises for the country’s decision yesterday to cancel a planned summit with the South and to suspend talks, the North revealed another source of anger: National Security Advisor John Bolton’s comments from his appearance Sunday on CNN’s State of the Union, where he suggested that North Korea must “commit to denuclearization” to help it “become a normal nation.”
Kim Kye Gwan, a vice foreign minister and a top North Korea disarmament negotiator, said the regime was disappointed by the US’s articulation of its goals for the summit, according to a statement published Wednesday by the state-run Korean Central News Agency via Bloomberg. Kim expressed anger toward Bolton and other US officials, adding that the North rejects the “Libya model” where a state surrenders its weapons first then receives incentives like sanctions relief.
“If the U.S. is trying to drive us into a corner to force our unilateral nuclear abandonment, we will no longer be interested in such dialogue and cannot but reconsider our proceeding to the DPRK-U.S. summit,” Kim said. He added that Trump risked becoming a “more tragic and unsuccessful president than his predecessors” if he didn’t accept North Korea as a nuclear power.
Kim Kye Gwan said the North had already declared its willingness to denuclearize the peninsula – but that it must not be counted on to act first.
“If the Trump administration corners us and tries to force us to give up nuclear [weapons] unfairly,” it says, “we will not be interested in such talks anymore and cannot help but reconsider having the upcoming DPRK-U.S. summit.”
North Korea added that it wouldn’t be satisfied with “complete, verifiable and irreversible” denuclearization as well as the dismantling of nuclear and chemical arms, per Nikkei.
One North Korea expert said observers shouldn’t panic: The sharp rhetoric is more likely a negotiating tactic than a legitimate threat to scrap the talks.
Jin Chang-soo, president at the Sejong Institute, said North Korea’s remarks are more like jockeying ahead of the summit with the U.S., and not a serious threat to pull out of the meeting.
“North Korea and the U.S. agreed on the big picture, but they still have different ideas on a detailed process. Pyongyang is trying to boost its negotiation power with such actions,” Jin said.
In a statement, the South Korean government said North Korea’s decision to suspend talks was “regrettable.”
“It is regrettable that the North has suspended inter-Korean high-level talks with no consultation with us,” said Baik Tae-hyun, a spokesman for South Korea’s Unification Ministry. “The government has a firm will to carry out the Panmunjom Declaration faithfully, and urges the North side to come to the table quickly for the peace and prosperity of the Korean Peninsula.”
China, meanwhile, called on both sides to “avoid further provocation.”
“The amelioration of the situation on the Korean Peninsula is hard won and should be cherished,” foreign ministry spokesman Lu Kang told reporters in Beijing.
For now Kim’s gambit appears to be working: on Tuesday night, the US said that it would consider withholding B-52 bombers from its joint military drills with South Korea in a bid to appease the North. Should Pyongyang say it demands more, will Trump – visions of a Nobel Peace Prize dancing in his head – appease Kim again, and if so, how?
Just Tyler inserting click bait headlines.
Seems to be normal preparatory negotiation procedure, especially for Norks.
Bolton is a dual-citizenship Israeli who should never have been given the post. He will sabotage Trump’s peace initiative.
Trust in the old fucker who sees marijunana smokers as the biggest threat to Amerika
-PREY-
It would appear that L’il Kim has read The Art of the Deal.
Dennis Rodman gave it to him.
(no lie!)
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-05-18/us-scrapped-b-52-military-drill-south-korea-after-kim-jong-un-complained
Right again.
More Kabuki.
“US Weighs Withdrawing B-52 Bombers From Joint Military Drills As Koreas Suspend Talks”
The important thing here is that NK saves face and does not appear weak.
The show must go on….
Apparently Kim doesn’t want to die with a saber up his ass. That this lying, bloodthirsty asshole holds such an important position is all the proof any rational person needs to know about the Orange Crusader.
I’d say let’s put Kim and Bolton in a room together and lock the door. The one who comes out alive wins. If Bolton wins, we nuke N. Korea. If Kim wins we get all our troops off the peninsula.
Since Bolton is a neocon bullshitter who has never actually been in a war, my money is on Kim.
I hope all of Bolton’s past insane remarks come back to haunt him now that he has a bit of real power.
I think Sarah Huckabee Sanders is related to Baghdad Bob. Or, Miss Piggy. Or, both.
Oh, come on people!!
She fucken lies even more than Baghdad Bob. That’s the JOB of a POTUS press secretary … to bullshit about everything.
And, dammit, she DOES look like Ms. Piggy … and stutters just about as much. All the photos you see of her are doctored up. Here is the only know photo of the ACTUAL Sarah …
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Dear Leader (of North Korea)
This is a picture of Col Gadaffi when the USA thought he had, or was developing nukes.
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This is a picture of Col Gadaffi when he gave up his nukes.
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Act accordingly. Just saying. Oh, and lose some fucken’ weight Fat Boy.
Just remember who was responsible for that… it’s not he same world it was a year ago.
Given the tenuous situation, why were the annual military exercises not postponed or simply cancelled? Why did they give Kim an excuse? These exercises are more about shoveling money into the hands of South Korean business interests and keeping the prostitution industry flush with cash than they are essential to anyone’s security….especially in the face of possible real peace talks and a cessation of formal “war” footing. But of course there is always the hidden agenda of the globalists.
Awesome! People are becoming more discerning in the bullshit they buy into. Fear is one of the go-to tools of the deep state.
This is just another dying gasp by the deep state and their complicit, lame stream media, fake snewz lackey’s to test just how fucking irrelevant they are both truly becoming.
Just imagine how terrifying it must be for the deep state after 8000 years of playing the role of “Massa” on the global plantation to finally see their grip slipping from the whip.
Revel in it friends, you’ll never get this chance again.
Lame Stream Media for best actor?
Enjoy the show!
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“Just imagine how terrifying it must be for the deep state after 8000 years of playing the role of “Massa” on the global plantation to finally see their grip slipping from the whip”
Looks like they still have a firm grip on the whip to me.
The only people who got played are those who believed that Kim Jong-Un suddenly turned into an honest statesman and a believer in the right of humanity to free speech, free thought, and free enterprise the moment he crossed the concrete bar separating North and South at the DMZ to shake hands with Moon Jae-In.
However emotionally inspiring that summit may have been, Kim has never with his own mouth stated he would willingly deactivate his country’s nuclear weapons program. He meant a “nuclear-free Korean peninsula” which means the elimination of the role South Korea plays under the U.S. nuclear umbrella, and to this end, U.S. military bases and U.S. troops would all have to get out.
The divorcement (I use this term deliberately) of South Korea from the United States – the destruction of the alliance – has been a goal of the North since the Korean War ended (I know, it hasn’t ended officially, but since guns stopped firing) and that has never changed. The NorKs nearly achieved that in the 2000s thanks to 2 consecutive leftist ROK Presidents and to the infiltration of the South by NorK spies and their fifth column agitators – far-left political parties and groups who hate the U.S. and want the U.S. military out and who refuse to believe in human rights abuses in the North.
Ask yourself why summits with North Korea never happened when a conservative was in the Blue House (South Korea’s White House).
I am, incidentally, no fan of John Bolton. The guy is a sinister neocon whose thirst and appetite for war remind me of one John McCain and of a woman who laughed when speaking of the hellish death of the former leader of Libya. But to think that North Korea will voluntarily surrender its nuclear program and warheads (however primitive compared to the U.S. or Russian arsenals) is naive, foolish, and unrealistic. What Bolton wants is exactly what Bush 43’s administration wanted and North Korea not only refused but tested one nuke after another. The result? Bush 43 was humiliated by the North Koreans; to show he’d accomplished something, he removed that country from the State Department’s list of terrorism-sponsoring states while getting no tangible concession. North Korea returned to that list last fall thanks to Trump.
I know North Korea’s leaders are brutal, ruthless, and intolerant tyrants. They have a network of camps reminiscent of Stalin’s gulags. Ownership of a Bible gets one to those camps almost as quickly as writing online terroristic threats gets law enforcement to one’s door. And the average North Korean is impoverished, doesn’t eat much, and if he doesn’t live in Pyongyang (where the privileged, well-fed elite live), he’s likely inches shorter than the far better-fed South Koreans.
But to think that Kim Jong-Un will so easily allow his country to lose the one deterrent that Saddam Hussein and Moammar Qaddafi never had – that he ignored what Iran recently told him in public (“never negotiate with the U.S.”) – is the height of folly, the apex of historical ignorance, and the victory of irrational exuberance. In this, I don’t think it’s Trump who got played, his “Korean War to end” tweets notwithstanding. It’s anybody and everybody who thinks Kim can be trusted. (I don’t think the U.S. can be trusted given how the U.S. backed out of the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, but that’s another matter altogether).
“I know North Korea’s leaders are brutal, ruthless, and intolerant tyrants.”
How do you KNOW? Where does your KNOWledge come from? Could you have been lied to? Could the world have been lied to?
Word is that NK has been a CIA blacksite playground for decades with Un and daddy Un as puppets. If true, how accurate would the news from such a place be?
The thing I find striking about pictures of NK leaders is how they never fucking smile. Have you seen recent pictures of Un? Notice anything different?
Oh, I don’t know, Indentured Servant. Maybe the testimony of defectors including former guards of the notorious camps, as well as satellite footage of camps and satellite imagery of known mass graveyards outside small cities from all the hungry who died back in the 1990s.
North Korea a CIA playground? That’s as close to an Illuminati wet dream as one can conjure up.
NK leaders never smiling? That’s your proof of NK being a CIA playground. OK, enough for tonight. Bye.
I’m not questioning whether people were imprisoned, tortured and killed. I’m questioning who was behind it and for whose benefit was it done?
Again, if the Un family are puppets, how reliable would the news be?
Un smiling is not proof but as I said, “striking” in that it’s only been very recently that we’ve seen smiling images of Un. That seemed to start about the same time that Trump met with Un in the Forbidden City during his China trip. Coincidental yes but worth noting.
EDIT: Iran is another CIA blacksite playground.
Who was behind it: the North Korean government.
For whose benefit: the North Korean government.
Indentured, in 1956, the first and as far as I know only time there was actual opposition to the North Korean leadership. Not surprisingly, it coincided with the Khruschev speech during which mr. Nikita denounced Joseph Stalin and attempted to bring Soviet communism closer to Leninism. The speech was in February. 6 months later, a reformist movement within the North Korean government arose and it attempted to oust Kim Il-Sung. It failed, and Kim had those would-be reformers shot.
Since then, North Korea has evolved/devolved into a cult of personality state where dissent is not allowed and where anybody who dares openly question the legitimacy of the leadership is arrested and at the very least interrogated and beaten if not sent to camps.
So, for whose benefit? For the leadership. It tolerates no heterodoxy and those who were proven or suspected of dissent ended up eating rats in prison camps. There’s about 250k Koreans there now and many are there because they were caught with Bibles in their homes.
Un being a puppet? I never said he was.
As for smiling – look, in my few years on TBP, you like the overwhelming majority of posters I spoke to have never been rude to me, so I’ll reply respectfully.
Look at videos of Kim Jong-Un doing the typical communist “on-site” inspection. The man is ALWAYS grinning. His father did that too, albeit more often in his younger years. His grandfather did that aplenty. There are many photographs of Kim Il-Sung and Kim Jong-Il smiling, whether they’re meeting red-scarf-clad kids or clapping at performances or greeting foreign dignitaries.
Smiling means nothing.
“Un smiling is not proof but as I said, “striking” in that it’s only been very recently that we’ve seen smiling images of Un. That seemed to start about the same time that Trump met with Un in the Forbidden City during his China trip. Coincidental yes but worth noting.”
Grasping at Straws 101
Or how about this?
WHO is trying to escape their country, and why?
Why is the number of South Koreans trying to escape to North Korea ZERO?
Nearly zero. There have been, believe it or not, South Koreans who willingly went to the North. They haven’t been back and won’t be.
North Koreans flee North Korea for various reasons:
– hunger/famine
– desperation stemming from poverty
– confirmation, through contraband of USBs containing South Korean news, comedy, and variety TV shows demonstrating South Koreans as well-fed, well-dressed, and well-off and South Korean cities as modern, clean, developed, beautiful, with almost everybody owning a car (in contrast with the poverty of the North)
– hearing testimonies that life abroad is better (think about this: North Korean defectors in northeastern Chinese cities are stunned by the neon lights and the abundance of restaurants and bars and cars and everyday amenities that we in the west take for granted, and yet those cities are not even China’s wealthiest, and in comparison to Seoul, they’re third world pockets of underdevelopment – yet they’re light years ahead of what North Koreans are used to)
– the knowledge that in South Korea, one can speak their mind and not get sent to a gulag
Hey, if I lived in North Korea and if I thought I had a chance to reach South Korea for a better life, I might just try it too.
“Hey, if I lived in North Korea and if I thought I had a chance to reach South Korea for a better life, I might just try it too.”
Me too. Then again, even if you successfully defect, the Nork’s will then kill your entire family that was left behind … at least that’s what I read once. If that were the case, I would never leave.
It is indeed true that North Korea has historically punished the left-behind relatives of those who make it out. But if some did it nonetheless, being fully aware of what fate awaited their relatives and especially within the socio-cultural context of a Confucian ethic-based family system, where family ties mean adult children care for elderly parents and where filial piety are still preserved despite decades of communism (this culture is still quite prevalent in South Korea and strongly in evidence in Korean diaspora communities around the world), then the fact that some North Koreans left means that things there were truly that bad for them.
Besides, with bribes nowadays, arrested family members do get out. Not all. And not all family members get arrested – again, with some bribes, they can stave off the North Korean security agents who are dispatched to arrest the relatives of defectors.
1. Trump campaigns for leaving ME and NK as priority and to focus resources on domestic economy (MAGA)
2. Trump launches missile attack on Syria under false flag
3. Trump raises defense spending by $70 B, money that is not needed for defense and could have been used to rebuild US infrastructure, jobs
4. Trump launches another round of missiles at Syria under coordinated false flag
5. Trump appoints neocon Bolthead to NSA and neocon Pompus to State, and notorious torturess to CIA
6. Trump reneges on Iran nuclear deal and threatens any company and country that does business with Iran, even though Iran in 100% compliance with its deal commitments
7. Bolton threatens Iran
8. Bolton threatens NK
9. Trump is NOT MAGA.
10. Trump owned now by neocons 100%
11. Trump is interested in Trump personal success, nothing else
12. Q-anon is utter crap psyops to keep the MAGA masses in complete cognitive dissonance
13. US under complete fascist neocon control at Federal level and FEDGOV controls all public communication channels, including internet
14. 4th Turning continues with rapid acceleration towards economic, political and social volatility, conflict and demise of USA
Somebody down votes this?? The ‘up Trump’s rump’ followers are just as bad as the Obama free phone followers !
What did you say that was not the truth? You even left out the ‘lock her up’ changed within 48 hrs. of being elected to “they’re good people, really fantastic people”…….the ‘deport them all’ to “our farmers need the immigrant labor”…….and many more of the same “If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor” bullschitt
annuit coeptis novus ordo seclorum- they should do a census and count how many idiots there are in this country that think the demonrats and republicants are actually different !
“Somebody down votes this?? ” —— ordo ab chao
You’re a relative Newbie here … but you’re not THAT new.
Here’s the deal; we have a group of folks here who have a knee-jerk reaction to ANYTHING negative about Trump. And I do mean anything.
Theye are like Joos who scream “Anti-Semite!!” at the least provocation, or kneegrows who cry “RAYYYCISSS!!” if you just look at them funny.
On days when I’m in a good mood, I call such folk Trump-eteers (like Mouseketeers, only dumber). On days when I’m in a bad mood I call them Golden Gollum Nut Sack Lickers.
This does not mean I hate them. Oh, no! I’m sure they are mighty fine folks. Positive. But, when it comes to Trump they just lost all sense of reason. The thumbs down come because of their First Commandment; —- Thou shalt not say vain things about Trump thy God.
Got it?
Yes sir, yes sir. Three bags full.
My son took this picture of Jake and me because he said we were dressed alike.
TBP is kind of like a mafia family… it is almost impossible to not find a reason to check in at least daily. My Nick has a fever and chills, so no work outside today for him. And we all know about geese and ganders.
The world has gone bumfuk crazy.
Yea, I got it. I may borrow your tag line, but it’s pretty much what I said, isn’t it?
Nope, not that new, but new enough I don’t know how to take some of the comments. I’m gettin a handle on yours, but don’t have a good grasp on it yet.
I never bothered to vote except in local elections, mostly. It was the one thing my pap and me argued about. He would tell me “if you don’t vote you can’t bitch”…..and I would respond “every time I pay my taxes I’ve got a right to bitch. Ain’t any difference between any of ’em, anyway”
He passed in ’99, and in memory I’ve voted republican for him….got two terms of the bast*rd bush, and then took a chance on Trump. Didn’t vote in 08 or 12….won’t ever vote again.
Bunch a gawddam freemasons pullin’ the strings. The Hegelian dialectic……again and again and again. Pissed cause I let myself get duped into playing the game. I’m sure the ole’ man won’t care, he griped about the do nuffins and the mehicans thirty years ago !
Politics- from the latin ‘poli’, meaning many….and ‘tics’, and everybody knows tics are just blood sucking parasites.
I only took a couple years of Jr. college, and I majored in chasin’ pussy and smokin’ dope. Just been a labor hand for over 40 yrs, never been on the government dole….too phuckin old to give a shit anymore, and too phuckin poor to stop !
Got it?
Two years of college with a double major in pussy and dope, I’m impressed.
Lol, EC ! Another one of those comments I’m not sure how to take-but it damn sure made me chuckle !
With two part time jobs to get 40 hrs. pay a week and 15 cr. hrs. per semester, it was a hectic schedule. I hit the jackpot on my night job buffin’ floors at the local hospital (one block off the main drag) when I hooked up with a nurse that sold weed !
At 19, finals week, I woke up and only had a little less than 15 min. to get my britches -n- boots on and get across town to take a test…….put a telephone pole clear to the fire wall on my ’70 Nova (the first of three ‘totaled’ rides over the next two years) right in front of my insurance agent’s office.
I got clipped on the left rear quarter panel, and pushed into the pole. A trustee from a local AA ranch south of town was on an errand trip to the hospital and began a left turn in front of me. He got the ticket for failing to yield-cops said there were no skid marks-little did they know I saw him start the turn, down shifted and tried to make the squeeze…..probably at nearly twice the posted limit. Thirty stitches to the top of my head, walked over to the ER at the hospital escorted by my insurance agent…….I got to re-schedule taking the test.
That poor old geezer’s (probably younger than I am now) statement read: “I never saw him till I hit him”
Not proud of it….just the way I was back then. I can still go off on the drop of a dime……what’s the saying? “Fools rush in where angels fear to tread?”
Ordy makes my minors in Political Science and ConLaw History seem absolutely worthless, doesn’t he?
Since I long ago determined my degree in Journalism to be little better than a Liberal Arts degree (if not WORSE since I’m conservative), and I already have a vagina, I guess I’ll just have to hope Missouri legalizes dope.
C’mon legal marijuana!
Stucky, Talk about hitting the nail on the head