Reason for the question. Just last weekend I finished a sci-fi novel titled “Link”. The premise is that the evolution of modern man (homo sapiens) is just 200,000 years old … a mere blip in evolutionary terms … and simply not enough time. He suggests that humans are the result of genetic seeding from extraterrestrials. It was truly great sci-fi page turner.
I had no plans to say or write anything about that book. BUT …. on today’s governmentslaves web site is an article titled “Did Neil Armstrong and his crew encounter extraterrestrials on the moon?”. Therefore, I believe the Universe is beckoning me to ask these questions today. Below the questions, I provided a few quotes from the article which you can read HERE.
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Q1: The book (“Link”) posits that if Extraterrestrials were proven beyond a shadow of a doubt to exist … that it would result in the collapse of civilization as we know it. Do you agree with this?
Q2: If Extraterrestrials make themselves known to humans, how will that affect your FAITH?
—- Specifically, if you are a Christian, would your faith in Christ be weakened, or strengthened? If you are a nonbeliever, would you consider believing?
Q3 (optional); What do you think of the article below … especially considering the tremendous credibility of the witnesses?
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Me?
Q1: A Billion mooslims will completely freak out if Allah ain’t all that. Their belief in Paradise complete with 70 Nancy Pelosi’s must of necessity be realized as total bullshit. More or less the same will happen with a Billion Christians … total disillusionment. A billion Africans will demand the Aliens send them free shit. A billion Chinks will let it be known they can make Alien Spaceships even cheaper than the aliens. But, a billion batshit crazy Hindus will feel vindicated about the Aliens, especially if they have four arms, eight tits, and blue skin. So, yeah, proof of Aliens WILL totally end civilization as we know it.
Q2: The New Testament states that ALL of creation groans under the pangs of sin, and that God became a HUMAN (via Jesus Christ) who died for all HUMAN sinners (he didn’t die for insects, fish, birds, etc.) Aliens are absolutely part of “all” creation. Therefore to save aliens from the curse of sin, God would have HAD to send Christ in alien form to die for those aliens. There is no allowance for that in the Bible. Therefore, Christianity would collapse if Aliens exist.
Q3: If there really were/are/will be Aliens I am convinced the government won’t tell us about it …. beause they know civilization will collapse. Also, I don’t believe a goddamned thing our government tells us. Lying assholes, all of them, all the time. As such, “YES!”, I do believe the article talks about things that are possible. I do hate venturing into this Conspiracy Shit, but the state of affairs in the world, especially America, and the election of Donald Trump who may be the anti-Christ really leaves me no other choice. Really.
Pray.
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FROM THE ARTICLE …..
Ladies and gentlemen, my government, NASA, which many of us in the United States say stands for Never A Straight Answer, proceeded to erase 40 rolls of film of the Apollo Program — the flight to the Moon, the flight around the Moon, the landings on the Moon, the walking guys here and there. They erased, for Christ’s sake, 40 rolls of film of those events. Now we’re talking about several thousand individual frames that were taken that the so-called authorities determined that you did not have a right to see. Oh, they were ‘disruptive,’ ‘socially unacceptable,’ ‘politically unacceptable.’ I’ve become furious. I’m a retired Command Sergeant Major. I was never famous for having a lot of patience. (source)
“While Neil and Buzz were on the Lunar surface, Neil switched to the medical channel, and spoke directly with the chief medical officer saying, they’re here, they’re parked on the side of the crater, they’re watching us.”
—— Ken Johnston, test pilot for Grumman Aerospace, Marine F-4 pilot, and NASA employee working as the chief Lunar Module test pilot at the Manned Spacecraft Center in Houston
Apparently, this is how it went:
Mission Control: What’s there ? Mission Control calling Apollo 11.
Apollo 11: These babies are huge, sir … enormous….Oh, God, you wouldn’t believe it! I’m telling you there are other space craft out there… lined up on the far side of the crater edge… they’re on the moon watching us.
With the same basic elements found throughout the infinite universe, would it not be foolish to think we are alone?
I’d be happy to share a pizza and some beer.
My answers–Q1 Absolutely not, the government has been lying to us for decades, but no one is upset about the obvious fact that many alien species exist…NASA says there are 40 billion potentially habitable planets in our galaxy alone.
Q2–It would not diminish anyone’s faith. Eighteenth century preachers talked about this likelihood, and people liked a greater God.
I do believe in outer space aliens. Unless there is corroboration of proof to what our Gov’t states, I will always take the opposition position of the Gov’t.
Trump is not the anti-Christ; it is the current Pope.
Proof of aliens will end civilization = Total Bullshit. Life will go on as normal. Musloids will still look for Christian and Yazidi heads to cut off.
Why in the hell would aliens want to come here? White pussy? Better than green pussy?
If they start businesses, pay taxes, don’t make a lot of noise at night and leave me the fuck alone they are welcome. We have enough freeloaders here already.
As for the mooslims, they are already out of control on a variety of fronts so not sure how that changes things in terms of the end of the world.
Of course, if society did collapse everyone could just blame Trump. So I’m not sure anything changes there either.
To me it looks like a zero sum game as long as they don’t vaporize or sterilize us.
I’ll be the first one to admit that ‘nothing is impossible’ … but ….
There is no way to travel light years in space. And even it were possible (worm hole) it would take a tremendous amount of energy to create the hole. Further, beings traveling through it – would have such a time differential – that when they got back to their home planet – it would be 10,000’s of years later.
And even if they do exist – I don’t want to give them any fucking Food Stamps / housing vouchers / Medicaid.
The Somali’s here in Minneapoils, look a lot like aliens.
Maybe they did not travel here. Maybe they started here. Different dimension, inside a hollow earth? Anything is possible at the rate we get lied to.
Hollow earth? Take a look at Hawaii.
“There is no way to travel light years in space. ”
How do you know this? I’ll guess your answer is based on 21st century knowledge.
Let’s say there are other sentient beings in the universe. Let’s say the inhabitants of one of those planets have been sentient for one million years. Ya think maybe a million years of technology just possibly could lead to light-year travel … you know, using technology which today’s 200k year old homo sapiens can’t even begin to conceive of?
Traveling ‘near’ the speed of light -think of the acceleration – the forces on the body / the space craft / the energy necessary to power it.
I suggest you get a Physics 101 book.
The best joke on Start Trek – they are traveling warp 9 – but to send messages to star fleet – we electro-magnetic waves only travel at the speed of light.
“I suggest you get a Physics 101 book.” ——— Dutchman
You should write a book —- “I’m the smartest fucker in the room, just ask me.”
Or this one—- “I married a dumb ass who thinks he’s a genius” —- authored by Mrs. Dutchman
Stuck – where you been? That was funny!
Forgive them with low intellect and education, for they know everything.
Stucky: The ‘how do you know’ is really a sophist question. The truth be, nobody knows anything. ‘How do you know’ promotes questions like ‘how many angles are among us?”.
The laws of physics (gravity caused by mass / the atomic model of electrons / protons / neutrons / nature of light / quantum mechanics) is working throughout the universe. They have been demonstrated / observed many times.
Just sayin’
” There could be other sentient beings in the universe”_____________Stucky
I’m not saying it’s the Jinn …. but it’s the Jinn. They are interdimensional which does not mean they are coming from outside of our Earthly plane, just on a different wave length and frequency to ours. The bible speaks clearly of them as the Seraphim and angelic.
Spoiler- There are vitriolic angels out there that pour misery upon humanity.
What twaddle.
Read sometime Dawg, you might learn about things. Start with Genesis, it’s in there. Just because you have no knowledge of these things does not mean it is not true. Revelation is another to cover the vitriolic angels angle. I didn’t write the “twaddle”, I just related the “twaddle”. Take it up with Jeebus.
Okay, let’s start with this: ‘splain to me beings on a different wavelength and frequency than we humans. No links, your own words (a technique I learned from you).
And a wise student you are. EVERYTHING here in your world has a frequency Dawg.
Humans are of the highest frequency while a rock/stone would be of the lowest. A crash course in quantum physics would help you with this wave length/frequency end of the construct in which you live. You have a different frequency from any other person roaming around on the Earff. The Jinn/Seraphim are on a spectrum undetected by the likes of us average human types. Any other questions?
Yes. What is your wavelength and frequency?
What is the wavelength and frequency of the Jinn?
Nanometers for wavelength, and Hertz for frequency will do nicely. Also, please educate me as to how my personal wavelength and frequency are measured.
Thanks.
Dawg- Here is a interesting health article which you may like about human frequency/Hertz etc. I’m tired and need to get some sleep as I am still not completely well, should not have smoked for 45 years (bad choices and all ).
https://www.healtone.com/pages/the-human-body-frequency.html
Read your link. More twaddle. No methods whatsoever on how to measure my personal wavelength and frequency. Lots of words. Lots of assertions. No concrete methods for measurements. Complete rubbish and utter fail.
Shocker.
You are assuming that such FTL travel is impossible–which is foolish. As Michio Kaku has pointed out, a civilization that was 5,000-10,000 years more advanced than ours would likely be able to do many things we now think are impossible.
Light (electro-magnetic waves) travel at an absolute speed. This what causes the time dilation. As you reach the speed of light your mass will increase to infinity. This is what limits our particle accelerators to 0.99% the speed of light – tons of energy to used on a single particle – a proton.
Didn’t you read the Barsoom series by Edgar Rice Burroughs? There’s more shit to by discovered by secret government labs run by evil leaders run amok…
Don’t be a doofus with your suppositions. In 1492, the possibility of flying across the Atlantic seemed equally inconceivable.
Besides, in the diaries of Columbus he talks about something he saw emerge from the ocean and fly away.
They’ve been here a long time.
It’s hard for most self-important people to accept their unimportance.
HSF won’t like the info from Neil, Ken, and the Apollo 11.
Therefore to save aliens from the curse of sin, God would have HAD to send Christ in alien form to die for those aliens. There is no allowance for that in the Bible. – Stucky
What about this verse? Could it be interpreted to mean aliens? – EC
“I’m the good shepherd. I know my own and my own know me, just as the Father knows me and I know the Father. And I lay down my life for the sheep. I have other sheep that don’t belong to this fold.”
As far as I know sheep in the Bible refers to one of two things; 1) sheep or, 2) human beings.
So, no, I don’t think it refers to aliens. Good observation, though. There are Christian themed books out there which point to several Biblical references which could be construed as referring to aliens … including the one you just suggested.
I don’t buy it, because (and although I do not have a smidgen of your bible knowledge) I believe any idea has to be confirmed by other verses and I don’t recall any. What I do recall is the bible mentions earth as a unique place. Sure, more open minded folks imagine that we are earth-centric morans for not giving the idea of aliens a try. Just imagine how random and utterly unimaginable it is that life should have sprung up out of a particular spot in the ocean. What was the spark; a bolt of lightning, an underwater volcano, a falling star?
The folks who dismiss the creation story could not prove their own theory of spontaneous motility or even autistic awareness – as opposed to self-awareness. But, I do not by any means intend to make the creation story my argument. I simply want to say that I wish you good luck finding any kind of life or life-forms out there.
EC
The folks who dismiss the creation story could not prove their own theory
For Christ’s sake – the bible is a made-up story.
I shall add ‘engineer’ to my list of heathen sects.
BTW, the history books have it all wrong, they say Christians came to Indian lands to escape religious bigotry in Europe. There was no mention of engineers fleeing to America to escape the mud hut mindset.
Or other faiths practiced in sincerity. Faiths that don’t advocate killing folks just because you don’t think like them…
Aliens exist they are most likely human/fallen angel hybrids(nephilim). Notice that they are ALL humanoid. True informed Christians know this and will not be deceived by alien disclosure which might be part of the “strong delusion” God tells of in the end days. Steve Quayle and his friends explain all this, the pre-Edenic world, transhumanism and Satans plan to use AI? in a host body to rule earth as a counterfeit God before the apocalypse.
All those astronauts on the moon seeing the aliens ………… wonder how that is going to affect all those who claim we never went to the moon in the first place and the video of it was faked on some Hollywood style scenery somewhere in the desert?
You can find some alien messages on 8chan. One recent message said the summit (I believe they are referring to Trump/Kim) will trigger a collapse of the world system after which they will make their presence known and salvage a few good men and women for immediate translocation (a 3D copy of the scanned individual right down to the molecular level to freeze frame the very thoughts and mind of the individual so that they are not aware they are mere copies of the original is reproduced instantaneously in a distant – up to half a light year away – planet) to a habitable planet in another stellar system or possibly Nibiru in a life-imitates-art reenactment of Millennium, great movie by the way, excellent.
EC
So that’s what happened? It does explain a lot.
“Shortly after I retired from the Air-Force, and I still was maintaining contacts with friends and associates at the various bases and one Col Parker in the Air Defence Command, the Space Command . . . mentioned an incident which I later confirmed. A spacecraft went to the rescue of Apollo 13, and they accompanied Apollo 13 on their voyage around the moon and back to Earth, and on two occasions they thought they might have to transfer the crew to their spacecraft. But they saw them safely back to the Earth.”
I would like to call UNFAIR this cameo appearance by Elvis’s manager with absolutely no mention of the fact Presley’s daughter actually married Michael Jackson, a man who sang a love song to a rat when he was but a fledgling hybrid: the original androgynous man-child we are all supposed to forget died like a circus freak show.
Stucky, you big lumberjack looking (and probably smelling) dude, illegal aliens on the moon? Really? Shit, EC and I probably met more than one dude or dudette in AF uniform who claimed to have seen the creatures hidden out in the Nevada desert. But, unfortunately, we probably drank all but the last can of beer before passing out and can never be quite sure that guy or gal was seriously telling us about Area 51 duty.
Even the stories you heard in basic were old by the time you were born. I guess Stuck is working on the ‘sucker born every minute’ theory.
Maggita, all the good entertainers are mere hollow shells, HF left just in time before the corrosion ate his pineal gland.
Q1. Didn’t you see Independence Day?
Q2. My faith has been shaken to its very core, so I can’t imagine ET having much of an impact.
Q3. I have a telescope. A pretty good one. There’s shit flying around out there. Really.
Illegal aliens on the moon is a stretch.
But, aliens intervening in human evolution is not. Think about the massive enormous technology, brain power, blah blah that it would take for light-year travel …. which still might not be fast enough to explore much outside of this galaxy. So, if our Alien visitors came from another galaxy, then their intelligence would certainly appear godlike to us humans.
So, let’s say Earth gets a visit from these beings from another galaxy. They arrive, let’s say, BEFORE homo sapiens appears on the scene … maybe Neanderthal or homo erectus. Their technology allow them to see that Neanderthal will never mutate beyond where it is now … the species has reached an evolutionary dead end. However, they see that this ape man has serious potential. So, they do some gene splicing, transform some DNA, and voilla — it’s the Dawn Of Man. Seriously, how hard would it be for light-year traveling aliens to tweak some DNA? It ought to be a piece of cake. We humans have barely entered the Age of Science and WE have already mapped the entire human genome! Tweaking DNA would be child’s play for an advanced race of galaxy travelers.
Q1. That’s not going to happen (it will be some kind of huge hoax) but expect disclosure to come soon (the big hoax). A big lie works so much better than a little lie. It’s a way to deceive and to control.
Q2. It won’t. See above.
Q3. I think they are trying to prepare us for the ultimate deception. When the SHTF, this is the method they are going to use to “bring the world together”.
Here is a bible scholar who loves to talk about ufo’s. Attends Roswell festivals and lectures at them.
http://drmsh.com/category/ufos/exopolitics/
Good questions, though. 200 comments?
It’ll be lucky to get to 50. Things here ain’t what they used to be.
That’s because Nick’s been working me like a mule landscaping this land and building fences for goats. I’m allowed more breaks now that it is hot.
Haha… as if.
I’ll race you there.
My neighbors in the OKC area were “abducted” by aliens while driving through Montana. They said so in the newspaper.
It would have been in the Sunday Oklahoman in early 1994, I think. I looked online but is NO WAY I’m subscribing. Those people were whack.
Q1: The book (“Link”) posits that if Extraterrestrials were proven beyond a shadow of a doubt to exist … that it would result in the collapse of civilization as we know it. Do you agree with this?
A1: In a word NO. People will always believe whatever they want to believe regardless of what evidence you present to the contrary. If a flying saucer landed in the front yard of a true non-believer and its occupants rang his doorbell to introduce themselves, he/she would simply close the door (and their minds) and tell themselves they didn’t see it. It didn’t happen. That burnt circle of grass on their front yard in the morning must have been from a dropped cigarette…
Q2: If Extraterrestrials make themselves known to humans, how will that affect your FAITH?
—- Specifically, if you are a Christian, would your faith in Christ be weakened, or strengthened? If you are a nonbeliever, would you consider believing?
A2: It would not affect mine at all. As a Deist, my spiritual belief is in our creator. If he created us, then he created them too. I personally think of that all organized religions are simply a path to allow people to find their way to him. That they have been so distorted by the various priestcraft as Thomas Paine referred to them is unfortunate, but it is a common trait that many people need to be led and told what to do and what to think. It’s easier than doing it for themselves I guess. I always hope that they find their own peace in their own way, but each must do it on their own…
(If you are interested, you can read more of Deism in Thomas Paine’s book: “The Age of Reason”)
Q3 (optional); What do you think of the article below … especially considering the tremendous credibility of the witnesses?
A3: All things are possible. Organized religions always seem to limit the creator to only what they can understand or even imagine. Our creator is much greater than anything we can understand or imagine. As to the information in the article, it is simply not in the government’s best interest to tell the unwashed masses anything that might undermine their control over us. I believe nothing that government says and that everything is possible. The universe that we know is a wondrous place. Our creator does good work…
“…Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible…” — Lord Kelvin, President, Royal Society, 1895.
Thank you a serious and thoughtful answer (one of the few).
” ‘…Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible…’ — Lord Kelvin, President, Royal Society, 1895.”
I would have liked to have asked Lord Kelvin just one question: “Just what the fuck is a bird?”
A heavier than air biological flying machine.
But, if you asked him that question, he probably would have just closed the door (and his mind) and told himself they don’t exist…
Yes, but a bird is an unstable flying machine, which is a hell of a lot harder to do than a stable (fixed wing) one, which is as far as we have gotten so far. Kelvin was a fucking idiot.
“…(fixed wing) one, which is as far as we have gotten so far.”
I think you forgot helicopters.
” In a word NO. People will always believe whatever they want to believe regardless of what evidence you present to the contrary. If a flying saucer landed in the front yard of a true non-believer and its occupants rang his doorbell to introduce themselves, he/she would simply close the door (and their minds) and tell themselves they didn’t see it. It didn’t happen. That burnt circle of grass on their front yard in the morning must have been from a dropped cigarette…”
You really believe this Steve?
I believe people are seeing what they say they are seeing. I have seen some weird things in the sky in the recent past.
My husband and his mom saw a thing that shut their car down on I-70 between Denver and KC around 1970. Pretty much like what you saw in Close Encounters. After it flew off, she started her car and resumed the trip. That doesn’t negate what I said in answer to Stucky’s question.
I have no reason to believe they made this up. The 60’s were full of similar anecdotes.
I subscribe to the theory that Homo Sapiens did not evolve but are rather hybrid offspring from a chimpanzee fucking a pig…makes perfect sense to me. Maybe muzzies and kikes are right not to eat pork, not only are pigs unclean but it’s a form of cannibalism as well. Maybe the first generation or two of hybrids were Jews. This would explain the whole “chosen people” thing. It would also explain why so many of them are pigs in a behavioral sense.
https://phys.org/news/2013-07-chimp-pig-hybrid-humans.html
I’ve heard guy’s comment: “Well, she’s a real pig”.
What do you get when a chimpanzee fucks a pig? Miss Iran.
You are getting to the point where you can work in some Joo shit into a thread regardless of topic. Don’t be a one trick pony.
If I had to choose just one trick, it would be to the ability to suck myself off. I would be the envy of ponies worldwide.
“…I can speak for every guy in this room here tonight. Guys, if you could blow yourselves, ladies, you’d be in this room alone right now. Watching an empty stage…” — Bill Hicks
I would say something about big dogs and licking their balls, but that would probably prompt all the big dogs here to drag out their nutlicking pictures.
So, I won’t say it.
Wonder if anyone kept a catalogue of all those who claimed abduction and anal probe inspection under some fog of a alien anisthesia?
Or, were those just wild dreams while on LSD, semi comatose, and sleeping with a rump ranger?
Thought there were quite a few of them from stories in the 70’s.
Where are they now?
Frisco? Hmmm.
Q1. No, why would they, unless they hate us for trashing this once beautiful, blue planet?
Q2. Strengthened, but immensely more fearful of His, or their wrath.
Q3. At this point, not sure who is truthful but squelched, and who is just spewing more fiction, or outright deceptive lying, for nefarious purposes.
Traveling faster than the speed of light.
David Sereda presented a theory he called ‘The Galaxy Clock’ a few years back that is quite interesting.
The Galaxy Clock portion starts at 25 minutes, 45 seconds into the video posted below and runs to 47 minutes 18 seconds.
It’s worth a look.
Stucky, you are just trying to run up a big comment count. This is just throwing shit at the monkeys and you know it.
How about you ladies argue about how many angles can dance on the head of a pin. At least that’s something that you can talk authoritatively about.
how many angles can dance on the head of a pin
Is this a trick question? There are many angles, even one named after you – obtuse.
EC
Well arn’t you drool.
Did you see what I did there?
Heh. Rob, your one of the few with a sense of humor.
“Stucky, you are just trying to run up a big comment count.”
Not here. I did try to run up the comment count on the “Caging Children” thread by calling several people ‘heartless cocksucker”.
But, not here. I am genuinely interested in human origins. The book “Link” was really a most fantastic read (I might share some its main premises in a future post). And then I read that article about an actual astronaut claiming he saw what he believed to be spaceships on the moon … something I have never read before (which, of course, could be total bullshit).
It all added up to what I thought would be interesting … and the various comments have been really good and interesting, for sure. Hell, I might even hit 100 for the first time since my dad died.
The wall isn’t even funded yet and Stucky’s already pitching that we put a cover on it. Nice try Stucky, I say we keep playing on real grass.
1. NO. Some civil unrest, massive “fake news” barrage, some crazies dying for the mothership.
In other words, how could we tell the difference.
2. 100% nonsense.
Invisible creature from the sky versus visible creature from the sky?
“Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic”.
-Arthur C. Clarke
3. The government leaks like a sieve. They can’t keep much of anything secret for long. The best they can do is redact, deny, spin and ridicule people. “Accidents”, rendition, jail, whatever.
Eventually , the shit comes out.
Aliens don’t exist – period! It’s all propaganda. All the information about this is contained in the “Report from Iron Mountain,” which I believe was a real secret document that was leaked. You can read about it here.
https://educate-yourself.org/nwo/reportironmountain1.shtml
Those planning this wanted to scare people with an environmental threat to the planet (climate change/global warming) so they could have world government, but that failed. Now they are trying to do it with aliens. I believe UFOs that people has witnessed are all government experiments and/or secret aircraft flights. Now you have former astronauts and other former and current government employees coming out to say, hey, the government is covering this up. It’s reverse psychology because there are no aliens to cover up. The government makes people think they’re hiding something about UFOs and people fall for it. When they’re ready to enact their world government, they’ll use new technology to make people think they’re actually seeing an alien invasion and cause world panic. “Oh, we have to have world government to fight to save our planet.”
Plus, we did not go to the moon, so they’re all lying.
About eight months ago, I read an article where they were talking to a guy who supposedly worked in Area 51 and he talked about how they (military personnel) actually abducted people to make them think they were abducted by aliens.
Q1: It won’t collapse civilization if smart people don’t believe the propaganda. Bunch of idiots out there are already in loonytoon land about this.
Q2: Won’t change the way I view my religion. As someone said earlier, if an alien rang my doorbell, I wouldn’t believe it at all.
Q3: I think all the “witnesses” are lying.
Thanks for the great read, Stucky.
We have evidently been given about 30 Alien genes by Aliens; the human Y-Chromosome is probably an Alien Y-Chromosome that was substituted for the Neanderthal’s Y-Chromosome; Aliens probably fused our 2nd Chromosome to another one to reduce our total pair count from 24 to 23. This may have occurred about 250,000 years ago as reported by the Sumerians, and is the same genetic estimate for the origin of our Mitochondrial DNA. Human bones found at Morocco are dated at 195,000 years old. Aliens inhabited the surface of earth until 12,900 years ago when a sudden CME 1000x greater than the Carrington Event finally convinced them Earth was to dangerous a planet for a permanent surface colony. The Torah is a liberal plagiarism of Sumerian writings from 1,000 years earlier and Hebrew fiction, so it is not an object of veneration one need be concerned about all the discrepancies with history and science. The Holy Trinity and Jesus’ Resurrection is true. I don’t understand a lot of Theology any more than travel faster than Light but I accept it as fact. I trust most of the New Testament (less Lazarus, Christmas Star, etc). Some Humans, Bigfoot, and Aliens are good; some are raw savages. Some Aliens are Demons stealing Humans for slaves, body parts, and Souls. The ZOG are in cahoots with them; it is all very Deep and very serious. If in danger, call on Jesus.
“If in danger, call on Jesus.”
And he will pour invisible oil over your head, right?
It happened. We understand why Peter denied Jesus. I understand why some people remain silent; they shouldn’t because doubters would then get a better understanding (ref Luke 11:35).
https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sitchin/sitchinbooks_timeline.htm
And Lloyd Pye’s “Everything you know is wrong” book .
From the rear cover of this 322-page book: “The origin of life, particularly human life, is one of today’s most intensely debated subjects. Ironically, that debate has only two socially acceptable sides: Darwinism and Creationism. Darwinists support the detailed observations and speculations of a brilliant naturalist, while Creationists support the various interpreters of the Bible’s scriptural teachings. Despite the passion and intellect exhibited by both sides as they defend their positions, millions of people remain unconvinced by the arguments of either. For those individuals, it is time to present a viable, comprehensive, third option, Rationalism, which is the formation of ideas and opinions based on evidence and reasoning rather than on secular authority or divine revelation. [This book] stakes out a solid, defendable, entirely new position in the debate about life origins and human origins. That position is bolstered by an astonishing array of scientific facts either unmentioned or conspicuously ignored by the two currently entrenched camps. By utilizing such a fact-based format, this book’s presentation of Rationalism offers a far more convincing explanation for the origins of life, and particularly human life, than Darwinism or Creationism ever have or ever will.”
OMG! You mean to tell me we are the result of genetic tinkering with a human genome that is hundreds of millions of years old by an incredibly advanced Type III or Type IV civilization….
…..and NOT the result of massive interbreeding by a bunch of ape-like primates?
I am so offended! This is simply nothing more than hate speech that must be banned.
Thump the Bible, look for your corroborating verses, and also use your head. Realize that Genesis simply explains it all in a watered down language those people could understand. The truth is in there.
Yes, but take the Hebrew Scribes metaphorically not literally; they were not scientist nor were they prophets, they were Hebrew Historical Revisionist Scribes liberally plagiarizing previous cultures and creating a greatly exaggerated fantasy tale for a “clan history” for Semitic people in the hills of the Levant. They were right about the “one” god and they may have been chosen to receive the World’s Messiah and His prophets. They wanted all people to fear their god and excelled in many ways, but then trampled on their god, murdered the Prophets, the World’s Messiah, the Apostles, chose to serve Satan, and would send the rest of the World to Hell.
https://goo.gl/images/jMuCGL
Stuck,
Take a look at level 6 of the iceberg
If Aliens are disclosed to the PUBLIC
It would not force me to have to change my faith…
I believe these inter dimensional beings are what some might consider angels and others demons, to some they might appear as the greys…
Ephesians 6:12 King James Version (KJV)
12 For we wrestle not against flesh
and blood, but against
principalities, against powers,
against the rulers of the darkness
of this world, against spiritual
wickedness in high places.
Vixen Vic has a much better summary than I do.
The Ancient Alien theory promoters like to point to art as evidence.
Mary Christine, that was a very good video. Thanks for posting it.
You are welcome. Now if we can only get Stucky to watch.
Heiser is a prolific scholar. He loves to teach and it shows.
Q1. Yes, a collapse will come, it’s overdue NOW from our own feeble-minded actions. While the aliens might have no such intent, the interaction of a superior civilization with an inferior one always impacts the inferior one, usually in a bad way – cowboys vs. indians, Europeans vs. (take your pick: Polynesians, Inca, Aztec, Hindu, Japanese, Chinese, nearly everybody). And we haven’t even thought about the possibility of alien diseases / contagions / etc. – in the _Alien_ movie series, the Aliens are a kind of bug, mentioned in one of their books as a parasitic vermin that required extinction (locally) to control. It is also possible that seeing a civilization so far ahead of ours would remove the “will to live” from a number of folks – if you can’t be top dog EVER, why keep reproducing your pitiful kind? Otherwise, the first “alien academy” to educate earth children in alien ways and technology will be an instant hit!
Q2. The Buddhists will be fine, no problems here. Were I a devout Christian I would simply say, “The time was not right back then for that revelation, it is now” and go on about my believing.
Q3. It doesn’t matter; if they want to say hello they will. Imagine a Star Trek “principle of non-intervention” being put to the test here.
Stucky, the book “Link” is correct on the dating of man. This article shows a a new study that says all animals came into being 100,000 to 200,000 years ago based on DNA studies. Which calls into question the evolution theory.
“Study: 90 percent of animals species 100 to 200k years old, not millions.”
https://www.christianpost.com/news/90-percent-animal-species-200k-years-old-not-millions-study-224500/
My last post on this topic. Don’t want to be accused of running up the post count.
In terms of Christianity, here is what I believe is the best case AGAINST extraterrestrials.
“But the HEAVENS and the earth which now are, by the same Word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the Day of Judgment and perdition of ungodly men …. in which the HEAVENS shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat. The earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.” —– 2 Peter 3:7-10
In other words, the stars, planets, earth, yea the whole fucken’ universe will be destroyed … then replaced. The reason for all this is based on God’s plan for humans.
If God did create sentient life elsewhere in the universe, then those planets and all life on them would be destroyed. Now, although Jehobah God did once kill millions of people, except for 8 souls (Noah & Kin)…. it still seems inconceivable that a Holy, Just, and Righteous God would destroy beings on another planet because of His plan for earthlings.