The USA-Russia summit is on for next month.
Q1: Do you approve of this meeting? Why or why not?
Q2: What would you guess are Trump’s motives?
Q3: What is Trump hoping to get from Russia?
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Me?
Q1: I absolutely approve. Why? Because almost literally everyone is against it. The Dems and Libs are going apeshit …. this just feeds into their Russia Collusion bullshit. Matthis is against it. Bolton is against it. Several Repuke Senators are against it. All this makes me happy beyond words.
Q2: Motive? Hmmmm, I think Trump is aware of this.
“The Russiagate hysteria in the US was designed, in part, to pre-empt this trust-building by keeping Trump and Putin separate and at loggerheads over silly and irrelevant provocations. This prolonged the conflict and tried to escalate it on behalf of Israeli and Saudi regional ambitions. It was a continuation of the long-held Brzezinski Doctrine of central Asian chaos and Russian destabilization/retardation.”
Getting along with Russia? Wow. This MAY be one of the most Swamp Draining thingies he has yet tried to accomplish. Maybe Trump’s motives are just to piss everyone the fuck off and confuse the hell out of everyone on the planet.
Q3: I don’t think he expects anything except building a relationship. Maybe he’ll secretly apologize to Putin for all the Neocon Assholes in our MIC … and that no matter what, a nuke exchange between USA-Russia won’t happen on his watch. I’m sure they’ll discuss Syria, but nothing concrete will come from it. Speaking of concrete … maybe Trump will ask Putin if he can build a Trump Towers in Crimea? Yeah, that’s the ticket.
Q1. Absolutely, I have always desired improved relations with the Russians.
Q2. These photo op meetings are after thoughts, the deals are done. His motive is obvious, Trump is down with the New New World Order, the Multi Polar one, the one where we participate in the world order rather than dictate it. Bankruptcy is his main motivation, it probably has arrived, and our options are 2; 1, start WW3 with Russia and China, plunder their shit and reboot our corrupt ass system, or 2, DONT start WW3, blame the corrupt ass banks and politicians, reboot from a lesser position and start over. This option appears to have been selected and the internal gears are spinning.
Q3. We are going to need a seat at the table, with as much dignity as possible and we probably will need to borrow some fuckin gold cuz ours (hahaha) has been plundered. At least Trump has enough class to recognize this, and enough humility to face it like a man, vs. burning the fuckin planet to hide decades of greed, sloth, and plunder with nothing to show for it except a seething mass of dependent, unskilled, entitled morans used to the exorbitant privilege bestowed by others.
Ottomatik said
“2, DONT start WW3, blame the corrupt ass banks and politicians, reboot from a lesser position and start over. This option appears to have been selected and the internal gears are spinning.”
I think this is ever more likely…this is why he is continuing to devalue the dollar in the currency war race to the bottom….we will leap frog a few currencies on the way down with this next stock market “correction “….credit rating will be downgraded, ripples will be felt across the world…and the made men running each country, the big club we ain’t in, WILL turn their respective nation’s Police state on their own populations to remain in control.
Not sure about Trump having class with taking into account the comments he makes…
But do believe his arrogance will and is being used against himself and the nation.
“Happy Memorials Day” President Trump
Class just oozes out his pores
Plat- On the surface Trump is perhaps a classless pig. I get that, I would never hang out with the douche, but NOT starting WW3 is very classy, especially when considering the price he must pay to derail long developed plans.
What have you ever bought with “class”?
DO you consider HillBeast, Bill, Maxine, Chucky Schumer, John “Swiftboat” Kerry, McCain (any), Pocahontas, Nancy Pelosi, any of them “classy”?
Do you think “class” would be of benefit when dealing with a former KGB spook in power?
Why did you even bring it up? How would it help if Trump only spoke in clean, precise sentences, wore designer suits from NYC (he might already, I don’t pay attention to that), had a Bahstin accent, spent time schmoozing with the elites even more than he does?
I laugh every time I read one of your posts. You were a salesman, correct? Or is that a salesperson? Anyway, some years ago I read about the 4(?) types of salesmen (maybe it was a spoof and I can’t find it to post it here). If I remember correctly, one of the types was Funny Guy. I assume that was your tactic. That and an insatiable appetite for knowledge.
I approve because it drives the media into a frothing at the mouth frenzy.
My answers are the same as Stucky’s. Not only do I hope Trump goes to Russia, I hope he wears one of those Russian hats and eats a piroshki and downs a shot of vodka and goes to a hockey game and whatever else he can do to troll the shit out of libs and neocons. He should also hire some hookers to piss on the bed that Obama once slept in – it’d be a first.
What Dave and Iska said.
Poke the bear to scatter the rats. I love this game.
1) approve
2) why does there need to be a motive?
3) hopes to get peace, calm, good relationship
Thanks Stuck. Appreciate the efforts,
I’m absolutely for it. This would have occurred much earlier if the loons hadn’t come after him with the fake news Russia story. But I would be very surprised if Trump doesn’t get at least a memorandum of understanding from the meeting with Putin. He seems to handle diplomacy like the pro salesperson he is. I recognize his tactics. He’s pretty good. Good enough most people don’t sense his techniques.
Old Trumpski saw how Hillary made $millions selling protection and privilege to foreigners. He figures if he is his own secretary of state, he can cash in. Damn gringos even applaud his venality. Teflon Don has broken all the rules; adultery, profiting from office, nepotism, racist comments, sexist comments, libel, slander, disclosing state secrets, employing folks who have no proper clearance or vetting, etc.
I said before that he appropriates the best ideas of others without regard for ideology. Yet he is more pragmatic than Nixon, more shameless than the Gipper, more corrupt than Clinton and more untouchable than Obama. The HNIC had his defenders and Trumpy has his own loyalists threatening civil war if anything happens to Teflon Don.
While the great unwashed marvels at his swashbuckling derring-do, Trump is actually quite different from his bombastic persona. Even Hitler is said to have had a mild speaking voice, lower and quieter than his shrill public voice. We can imagine that he will be as solicitous with Putin as he was with Kim Jong Un and Xi.
Still, the purpose is not to make nice for the sake of another Trump tower, the Europeans are pissed off about the US inspired invasion of Europe by muzzies. Our missiles on Russia’s border can be turned around to ‘protect’ Russia from Europe. Now that China is rising in the South China sea and her navy has peeped into Hawaii, it is time to cut a deal with Putin on the possibility of turning China into dim sum. Xi is romancing Kim Jong Un as never before. If Trump took the trouble to visit Korea and hinted at re-unification, Xi needs to stop that nonsense and keep his client in the communist fold.
Folks here would do well to drop the starry-eyed idea that white people will unite to conquer the world, it isn’t going to happen as long as nationalism is alive. HF said that abandoning nationalism is suicide. The Ruskies are not going to trade their pure blooded white women for American mixed breeds. Regardless of YoBo’s rose-colored glasses, the white Russians are hardened criminals with years experience breaking the laws and eluding the police.
This summit is the meeting of two top-level crooks. Watch your back when they shake hands and come to an agreement.
Possibly the best post you have made on TBP EC.
Bea
Thanks, Bea, I’ve made better comments but they don’t play well in a Rah Rah Trump enviro. I don’t even hate the guy.
Shit, I don’t even hate YoBo, fucked up as he is, he is waaaay more successful than, well I’m not even successful.
You can’t argue with success. – Old Pangloss
I liked your reference to dim sum.
Not an idiot’s calculation total to a maff problem.
Small plates or tins of grub w variety, typically served at brunch times, courtesy of the Chinee, enjoyed by them and many round eye peeps, too.
As you refrenced it, it doesn’t bode well for them if T and P join forces against Xi, if I understood your thinking.
Meantime, where’s an accompanying music video, El?
Even though I like Trump more than EC does, I had to upvote his comment simply because of my ongoing, and occasionally grudging, respect for awesomeness.
Unhesitant -Thanks for the reminder, I forgot to upvote EC.
Uncontroversial, if you incorporated my view into one of your awesome articles, then I would be honored. You could provide the counter punch.
1. Yes. We will need their advise on how to rebuild a broken Atheistic shithole into a modern Christian country soon.
2. He’s realized we can’t win any kind of war against them, especially a ground war. He saw as you did they have raised a generation of beautiful young
Women and a generation of real men who don’t wear faggy helmets on a Sunday bicycle ride. While we’ve raised a generation of Manpussies and fat ugly BullDykes.
3. Like Ottomatic said, a place at the table with some dignity.
Let’s recall how we humiliated them when Vlad wanted a place at the table as a full member due to their Nuke arsenal and offered them permanent secondary status back around 2004. This caused him to rebuild his military and now they have all the good cards. Trump is trying to avoid that embarrassment. I’ve said here often I don’t trust Trump but have never called him stupid. He’s playing a weak hand pretty well.
This is the way to negotiate, from a position of strength:
I do approve. Anything that prevents another war, of scales our current conflicts back, is a good thing. Plus, as stucky says, all the people I despise the most are apoplectic about it, so for that reason alone it has to be a good thing. I don’t know if much will come of it, but its a step in the right direction.
1) I definitely approve, especially since I think Putin is a great president.
2) Motive: Maybe he realizes Russia is a better ally than Europe and Asia. Maybe he thinks Russia and the U.S. have more in common than people are led to believe.
3) What does Trump get? Maybe Trump wants to buy oil from Russia at a good price, especially since Venezuela is in turmoil. Maybe he wants to divide Russia and China, especially when it comes to the dollar being the reserve currency.
We got a couple of billionaire oligarchs from Russia and U.S. meeting and we should be cheerleading for these douches to go out and catch a hockey game, drink some vodka, grab some hookers pussies and stalk and shoot some homeless a la the movie Surviving the Game?
Fuck em both….
A bad novella
Terrible televison.
It would be a marriage made in Heaven. Both largely white christian nations with lots of very smart “white” family orientated people (Armed to the brass balls) or you could go the European way and just disappear in a puff of political genocide
http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2018/06/barbarians-rampage-through-europes.html
Uncola after 127 hits I thought it regressive to add to the total but the link above proves your stance.
ask yourself how did the Holy wars start — one word— Apathy in comfort with a full belly.
Reap what you ignore
It’s just more evidence of Trump’s collusion with Russia.
Approve. No reason the two cannot communicate face-to-face.
Had it not been for the fake Russia collusion hysteria, it would have happened last year, as it should have.
“…the fact that Trump sent uber-neocon John Bolton to Moscow to organize the summit [was] a stroke of genius. The man who wants WWIII more than anyone must now make sure a summit that may serve to prevent it, successful.”
Summary of below quote: It has been a long term goal of the Western Empires to keep Russia from having any serious influence with Europe ….. and,more recently, with China.
A Russia-Europe and/or Russia-China alliance simply TERRIFIES the deep state in America.
As The World Turns, and changes before our eyes, America is increasingly finding itself on the outside looking in. This may have something to do with Trump going to Russia … trying to MARA Make America Relevant Again
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“For centuries, the paramount geostrategic goal of the British Empire was to maintain or, as needed, to create a state of war in continental Europe. The top priority was to prevent any form of alliance between Russia and Germany. This policy enabled the British Empire to become a world power by dominating the seas. The successor empire to the British Empire, the Anglo-Zionist Empire, has basically pursued the same policy and is still using all its power to prevent any cooperation or alliance between Russia and the European Union.
The crucial mistake that the Anglo-Zionist Empire committed in our times was to focus solely on Europe. As a result, western strategists failed to foresee that Russia would turn to a far more capable and advantageous ally: China. Vladimir Putin and Xi Jinping have done something unprecedented in history: they have decided to create a symbiotic relationship between two superpowers, each one depending on the other for its very survival. The relationship is by far the most important development since the Second World War and it will change the very nature of our planet. Needless to say, the Anglo-Zionists are horrified by this process and clueless as to how to prevent or delay it. But it is already too late. Still, we can expect the Empire to use all its economic, political and propagandistic power to try to implement the age-old maxim divide et impera (divide and rule). A key element of that effort will be to try to reinforce anti-Chinese propaganda in Russia and anti-Russian propaganda in China. ”
—— book, The Essential Saker
Hey Stucky , good to hear from you.I hope everything is ok.
I hope they do meet .Maybe Russia can save us from the coming destruction plus they got lots of oil.
I’m here in Billings Montana.
Schools are closed but things appear normal Got to go.God bless.