The Unmentionable Alternative

Guest Post by Eric Peters

The first reason originally given for the necessity of force-feeding electric cars to people was the supposedly imminent scarcity (and associated rising cost) of gasoline. This was en vogue back in the ‘90s – when the first electric cars came out – and quickly went away, because back in the ‘90s there were no subsidies to float them and no mandates to force them.

But the whole point of the exercise, we were constantly told, was that we had to find an alternative to fossil fuels right away – because we were on the cusp of running out of them.

Except it turns out we’re not.

There is so much gas, in fact, that a new excuse had to be found – “climate change,” the wonderfully elastic hypothesis that whatever the weather is doing that isn’t 70 degrees, calm and quiet is unnatural, alarming and the fault of man in general and the internal combustion engine specifically.

Actually, not – but something had to be found to make it “necessary” to replace the IC engine.

Which brings up a related thing – the suppression by purposeful omission of any discussion of a fuel that’s even more abundant than the oceans of gasoline we find ourselves swimming in – and so clean it makes the electric car’s “environmental” bona fides seem as shoddy as a mail order divinity degree.

And without any of the electric car’s long list of functional and economic downsides.

That fuel is compressed natural gas (CNG)  and the fact that you probably haven’t heard anything about ought to tell you a great deal about it.

CNG is mostly methane – a naturally occurring and renewable gas – stored in liquid form by pressurizing it. The stuff isn’t refined – the way gasoline  and diesel must be. It literally comes out of the earth and only needs to be captured (and compressed) and put into storage tanks before it’s ready to be used as a fuel.

That – plus almost limitless abundance – makes CNG a very inexpensive fuel.

The United States is the world’s leading producer of CNG – more than 71 billion cubic feet (which is how the stuff is measured) per day. Which is more than the entire Middle East combined.

Proven reserves are in excess of 309 trillion cubic feet – and that could be just the tip of the proverbial iceberg – as it has proved to be with regard to oil, which suddenly America turns out to have vastly more of than the fear-sayers were telling us lo these past 50 years – until it became embarrassing for them to continue telling us.

Estimated “recoverable” reserves are almost double the proven and it is probable that America’s actual CNG reserves are or triple or even more than the estimated recoverable 500-plus trillion cubic feet – given we don’t really know how much is down there, nor what new methods will become available to get it in the coming years, just as with crude oil (which becomes gasoline and diesel and other things besides).

But even if not, that 309 trillion is still enough to provide for at least the next 100 years of consumption.

By which time a viable (economically sensible, functionally gimp-free) EV might be developed and able to stand on its own four wheels, without subsidies or mandates to keep it rolling.

But it might not be worth even bothering with – given how superior an alternative CNG is to electricity as a fuel for motor vehicles.

First, the range and recharge issues that gimp electric cars are non-issues with CNG.

As with a gasoline-powered car, the CNG-powered car’s range is a function of how much fuel is in the tank and how much fuel the engine uses. The storage tanks – which are pressurized tanks – are larger than a gasoline or diesel tank – but that can be obviated via finding extra room for them in larger vehicles. CNG is therefore the perfect fuel for a big car – such as a full-size sedan or large SUV or truck – the kinds of vehicles Americans prefer and which don’t require subsidies or mandates to “stimulate” their sale.

No more downsizing of cars – or engines!

No more contrived need (because of government fuel-saving flapdoodle) for technological annoyances such as ASS – the Automatic Start/Stop systems most new cars have, not because customers like their cars to shut off at every red light and stop sign but because it’s a way to eke out a teensy MPG uptick, to placate the Feds.

Abundant fuel means no justification for top-down energy austerity measures (well, for us; these austerity measures never apply to those in the government and the fellow-traveling elites pushing for them can always easily afford to end-run them – just ask Escalade-driving Al Gore or jet-setting Leonardo diCaprio).

And smaller tanks – and shorter driving range – aren’t a big problem, either. Because CNG vehicles don’t need hours to refuel, like electric cars.

Or an expensive all-new infrastructure, either.

Many American homes already have CNG plumbing – for heat and appliances. Altering the plumbing to make home refueling (like home recharging) feasible ought to be technically as well as economically possible – and even if it costs too much to make that possible, or there is a technical problem, there is no hours-long refueling problem. CNG-powered cars can be back on the road almost as quickly as gas or diesel-powered cars – eliminating the most crippling functional problem with electric cars.

CNG is safer than electric.

The possibility of a fire after a crash is less because the CNG tanks are located in just one part of the car (like the gas tank in a gas or diesel-powered car). Unless that particular part of the car is damaged in an impact, there is very little risk of a breach and a fire. EVs, on the other hand, have their batteries spread out over almost the entire length of the car, so that any impact threatens damage to the battery pack. And EV battery packs are more likely to ignite because a spark is not necessary.

EV battery packs can – and have – spontaneously combusted.

With CNG – as with gas and diesel – even a leak does not necessarily mean a fire. There must be a spark to ignite the fuel. And CNG is less flammable than gasoline, making a fire even less likely than in a gas-powered car, let alone an EV.

CNG is also better for the environment in terms of actual pollution – as well as imagined pollution.

The fuel system is sealed, so there’s no vapor leak of hydrocarbons (as with gasoline and diesel-powered vehicles) during fueling and when burned, CNG combustion results in almost no harmful byproducts – the materials which cause or worsen air pollution, such as those unburned hydrocarbons and also particulate matter (nil) and virtually nil oxides of nitrogen and carbon monoxide.

CNG-powered vehicles qualify as “partial zero-emissions” (PZEV) vehicles – which are a hair’s breadth difference from “zero emissions” electric cars – which aren’t really because electricity production also produces emissions – ad not just carbon dioxide emissions.

Speaking of which.

Even if you buy the “climate change” shuck-and-jive (which you shouldn’t; read up on it and you’ll see the thing is grotesquely overstated and rests on shakier scientific ground than a three-foot-high Jenga tower) CNG is damned competitive even when it comes to C02 “emissions.” They are much lower than an equivalent gas or diesel-powered car would produce – and very possible less in the aggregate than electric cars would produce.

And if environmental considerations are to be the deciding considerations, then everything associated with EVs must be taken into consideration – including the manufacturing effluvia associated with the making of their batteries, as well as disposable/recycling issues – none of which are issues at all with CNG.

CNG, finally, is much cheaper than electricity – or at least, than electrically-powered cars.

The current price per-gallon equivalent is less than the cost of regular unleaded (see here) or just over two bucks per.

And the CNG-powered car itself is much less expensive than an electric car because it is a conventional car in all other respects. Any existing IC engine can be converted to operate on CNG – either full-time or part-time (another advantage over the electric car, which relies on one fuel only).

A CNG conversion adds about $4,000 to the price of an existing car – which means you’d pay a lot less to drive it than you would an electric car, which costs more than twice as much as an otherwise-equivalent non-electric car.

And no waiting to get going, either.

All of which explains why you almost never hear about the CNG alternative.

It’s the answer to a question they don’t want anyone to ask.

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Bob P
Bob P
January 9, 2019 11:00 am

Interesting article. He makes such a strong case for CNG I’m amazed I’ve never read about it before. If this is true, CNG represents the solution to myriad serious problems: dwindling supplies of easily accessible oil, paying trouble-making Arabs billions for oil and the serious trade imbalance that causes, billions spent on subsidizing a technology (electric cars) that’s clearly not yet ready to compete with IC engines, pollution caused by producing, refining and burning oil products. And the much lower cost would be a boon to the economy. But, as Peters points out, what incentive do TPTB have to incent the transition to CNG? Less need for them, their wars, their authoritarian programs, and their taxes. For those reasons, we’ll likely never see widespread use of CNG in cars.

Iwasntbornwithenufmiddlefingers
Iwasntbornwithenufmiddlefingers
  Bob P
January 9, 2019 1:39 pm

Cars have been made that run on it for years. Really hard to work on. Dual fuel with gas sometimes. Friend had a ford contour version in the nineties. Variable cam timing nade it an unreliable piece of shit.

subwo
subwo
  Bob P
January 9, 2019 8:01 pm

Japanese taxi companies have used LPG for decades. I always remember the distinct smell when riding in them. Here is the latest taxi by Toyota. Like CNG the infrastructure would have to be built. That would require a demand that is not there in the U.S.

https://www.motor1.com/news/184078/2018-toyota-japan-taxi-lpg/

Pequiste
Pequiste
January 9, 2019 11:01 am

This article is enough to make Al Gore, and our friend Jim Kunstler, need a case each of Maalox and Beano.

wxtwxtr
wxtwxtr
  Pequiste
January 9, 2019 11:18 am

Kunstler will be Kranky no matter what, just like Karl the ticker guy.

A misanthropic curmudgeon? Or a curmudgeonly misanthrope?

Pequiste
Pequiste
  wxtwxtr
January 9, 2019 1:24 pm

Cynical and sarcastic – emphatically yes; and certainly “kranky”. JHK is an outstanding wordsmith and observer of the social corpus in any case. That is why I think the Administrator posts his despatches.

If one is not “kranky” at this point in time, one is simply not paying attention.

ecliptix543
ecliptix543
  Pequiste
January 9, 2019 2:17 pm

I’ve been reading and corresponding with JHK for several years now. Watching his transformation from a two-time Obama voter and NY jew into his offering the opinions presented over the recent past is proof to me that our argument is the stronger one against the leftist/femmunist/communist approach.

He has some opposing views to mine (I have zero problems with that) but he is demonstrably willing to weigh actual evidence against blind ideologies and propagandistic bullshittery. If you go through the comment section on his site, it’s clear that some minds are willing to change based on facts, some are just as clearly not willing at all. When a material percentage of the voting population is motivated only by ideology, belief, feewings, and the influence of bullshittery, there must be a threshold for the polity being ungovernable. I think we’re there and have been for quite awhile.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
  Pequiste
January 9, 2019 2:33 pm

True dat…CNG is super clean, and there’s a lot more gas than oil in this country.

Anonymous
Anonymous
January 9, 2019 11:43 am

Look in Argentina (it is not an example in many, many things but on CNG vehicles it is). Any gasoline car can be converted and made dual. It take a sizable aluminum tank (200 bar) that goes in the trunk and provides about 150 miles for a mid size car.

There have been many actual collisions of CNG cars and very, very few where tank caused a problem.

The main problems used to be that the filling connection usually go under the hood, and it has to be opened every charge. The risk of failure of the closing mechanism or a partially closed hood increase. There have been several accidents because hoods open suddenly.

Refueling takes slightly longer than gasoline, but way, way shorter than an electric car.

I only disagree with the statement “Many American homes already have CNG plumbing”. No, nobody has 200 bar nat gas plumbing. Any charging station needs a sizable compressor to run it.

Ishmael
Ishmael
  Anonymous
January 9, 2019 12:18 pm

Well, maybe not, but home compressors are and have been available for a while. Looks like a big window AC unit. There is no storage of compressed fuel, except in the vehicle being refuelled.

https://www.google.ca/search?tbm=isch&q=natural+gas+home+compressor&backchip=online_chips:cng+compressor&chips=q:natural+gas+home+compressor&usg=AI4_-kTRlTJrb8c_8Y8WUgF5xNGRdb7iUg&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwif642kl-HfAhWJxYMKHezyCSgQ3VYIJSgA&biw=1252&bih=598&dpr=1.09

Having said that, the home type are likely as slow as charging an electric vehicle. Hook it up and run overnight. I have no personal experience with their use.

Interestingly, there were 2 or 3 gas stations selling pre-compressed NG in my area. Large package compressor and storage tank deal. All have since closed or ceased selling CNG.

I see the CNG label on big limos and the occasional Fed-Ex truck, and , I think, the odd vehicle associated with the local natural gas company, but thats it.

Entry cost is likely the barrier. There may also be regulatory barriers. At one point, CNG (and propane) vehicles were banned from underground garages here.

EDIT: On a whim, googled CNG stations near me. There are maybe ten within a 40 mile radius.

ALL with listed prices are currently charging MORE than regular gasoline, by volume…

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
  Ishmael
January 9, 2019 1:03 pm

You can’t look at current demand and infrastructure and make a comparison on price that would translate, should more demand be in place.

Done in Dallas
Done in Dallas
  Ishmael
January 9, 2019 2:45 pm

It’s getting some use in over the road trucking too.

Stucky
Stucky
January 9, 2019 12:37 pm

At the CES 2019 show (in Vegas) ….

German auto giant Mercedes-Benz has teamed up with Garmin to create a smartwatch that can feed important health data back to your car. It’ll then figure out how calm or stressed you are and make changes to the car accordingly, including changing the air conditioning, seats, lighting and music.

I’ll bet Eric will luuuuuuv that!
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https://www.techradar.com/news/mercedes-benz-and-garmin-smartwatch-could-tell-your-car-how-stressed-you-are

Stucky
Stucky
  Stucky
January 9, 2019 12:40 pm

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One other item from the show.

It’s a brand new high tech “revolutionary” dildo-vibrator for wimenz.

Long enough to penetrate both orifices simultaneously. Independent vibrating speeds. One end squirts lubricating liquid. Has a strap so you can wear it continuously, even at work. Interfaces to your iPhone, so you can order up an orgasm while sitting in a boring meeting. Also has a sensor which will recognize any human penis approaching it, which will cause it to double in width so it can not be removed. The deluxe model will also laugh at the human penis.

Not kidding.

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ecliptix543
ecliptix543
  Stucky
January 9, 2019 12:57 pm

What in the fuck were you looking for when that thing showed up in your search results? Dirty old bastard… It’s for you, isn’t it?

Stucky
Stucky
  ecliptix543
January 9, 2019 1:03 pm

It was on page 33 in today’s NY Post. They did a story in the biz section on the CES 2019 convention …. and mentioned the dildo-vibrator under “What’s cool”. I am not kidding.

ecliptix543
ecliptix543
  Stucky
January 9, 2019 1:45 pm

My birds would go on strike and file complaints for domestic abuse if I used the Post to line their cages. I avoid pretty much all the presstitute media nowadays. Do you know how awesome it is to go years without even recognizing the headliner’s name at a Stupor Bowl halftime show or other such drivelly, overproduced effluent of modern Murikan society? Such a good feeling 🙂

As to your new toy, meet the New Ideal American White Male Replacement Device (notice that it’s black, of course). The Disgruntled Femmunist’s Brigade will be buying those things like sausage egg mcmuffins.

EL Coyote (EC)
EL Coyote (EC)
  ecliptix543
January 9, 2019 1:05 pm

Leave Stucky alone. Like Snoop Doug, he’s working through some issues.
This is what you might call a Betamax product with excellent features but no market.
Women don’t want products to make them feel good, they just want a man whose life they can make as miserable as their own.

Pequiste
Pequiste
  EL Coyote (EC)
January 9, 2019 1:26 pm

Keen observation EL.

ecliptix543
ecliptix543
  EL Coyote (EC)
January 9, 2019 1:49 pm

1: I’ll fuck with whomever I damn well choose. Timing of life disasters notwithstanding. We all have problems.
2: Women don’t want a man. They want to be one. Complete with a pocket version of Big Black Cock. Sort of like you, except desirable and black and much bigger.

localyokel
localyokel
  EL Coyote (EC)
January 10, 2019 5:33 am

I wish I had your ready wit. The women would love/hate me. Truuf hoits.

Done in Dallas
Done in Dallas
  Stucky
January 9, 2019 2:48 pm

Wirecutter had a gif on his site showing some dude playing with the switch on his bitch while they were going down an escalator.

A
A
January 9, 2019 12:49 pm

CNG isn’t that obscure. Lots of commercial vehicles are already using it. Around LAX there are several CNG filling stations for such vehicles. Does CNG engines make more sense than electric motors, with current technology that’s a big yes. Is it easier to build the infrastructure to fuel CNG’s than EV’s, that’s a negative. The keyword is compressed and no CNG vehicle can just be fueled up by trickling out gas from your 2psi residential service line. You need to compress that gas, and at much higher pressure than a homeowners compressor to air up tires could handle. Alternatively you can trickle charge a battery with your residential power supply quite easily – it just takes time. Still, liquid fuels are and will be the standard as there is a huge infrastructure built and supporting it currently. Note that commercial vehicles use it on fixed routes. I’ve seen some taxis with it but they probably aren’t leaving the city. BTW, most all taxis in Korea run on CNG.

Worth noting is that nothing beats liquid fuels in terms that it’s a ton of energy in a small volume that is relatively easy to transport. A couple jerry cans can keep you going out in the bush wherever you are. CNG or Electricity are magnitudes harder to get to remote locations. We are awash in gasoline so why would I be the guinea pig for any different fuel right now?

Gloriously Deplorable Paul
Gloriously Deplorable Paul
  A
January 9, 2019 2:38 pm

The ports of Long Beach and Los Angeles have mandated a certain amount of the trucks that go in and out of the terminals be NG powered. Most are CNG. A few are LNG.
Virtually all garbage trucks and local buses are CNG.

BL
BL
January 9, 2019 1:59 pm

That- Plus a limitless abundance – makes CNG a very inexpensive fuel._______Article

There is the rub, TPTB don’t like things with cheap price tags, if they can’t make a KILLING (underline killing) off what you put in your tank, they will do everything to keep you from getting it. AND, they will make sure you don’t get the vehicles that get 100MPG or more and see to it you are driving the 20 MPG buggy. It’s just the way it is here on the prison planet.

pyrrhus
pyrrhus
January 9, 2019 2:32 pm

A lot of fleets, with central refueling, are run on CNG, which is a super clean fuel, our company promoted that…Infrastructure is lacking for wide spread auto use, though it would be much cheaper than electric.

TampaRed
TampaRed
January 9, 2019 4:08 pm

back to crude 4 a moment, bp has made a major discovery in the gulf of mayheko–

BP Uses New Technology to Unlock 1 Billion BOE at Thunder Horse Field

Sam Fox
Sam Fox
January 9, 2019 5:32 pm

Hmmm. Good article. Thanks.

Gas engines converted to use CNG would last longer & probably could go a lot longer between oil changes because it’s cleaner than gasoline. Vehicles would be slower taking off & not able to go as fast as gas powered autos. At my age I have figured out that a bit slower ain’t so bad when it comes to driving anyway. 🙂 I used a LOT of my odds when I was younger, so taking no chances on the road is a good thing. There is enough risk just being on the road. 🙂

Oil. It is not from dinosaurs or leaves or fossils & IS renewable deep in the earth. Russian & Ukrainian scientists proved that some years back, which is one reason Russia became a big player in oil. And why the predictions of ‘peak oil’ never came true. What the Ukrainian & Russian scientists discovered has been suppressed by big oil. Gee, I wonder why…

Look up The Myth Of Peak Oil & see whatcha think.

I found an older article about fueling cars with hydrogen. Hydrogen powered vehicles however, are much further down the road than CNG fuel. That author of the piece is still stuck in ‘fossil fuel’ & perhaps thinks that man caused climate change is real. I hope by now the writer is more educated.

https://auto.howstuffworks.com/fuel-efficiency/hybrid-technology/hydrogen-cars.htm

Possibly the very best under spoken of alternative fuel AND material for making most of a vehicle using hemp oil fuel & hemp fibers was invented by Henry Ford. No doubt that industrial hemp is 100% renewable. Can’t getcha ‘high’ either. 😉

https://truththeory.com/2017/02/15/henry-ford-invented-hemp-cars-ran-hemp-fuel/

SamFox

yahsure
yahsure
January 9, 2019 7:28 pm

Makes to much sense. It should be on all new pickups already. I wonder what it does with exhaust emissions?

james the deplorable wanderer
james the deplorable wanderer
January 10, 2019 12:58 am

Eric is not an oil man.
Natural gas from the earth is a MIXTURE – it has CH4 (methane) and SEVERAL OTHER GASES IN IT. Besides the good ones like C2H6 (ethane, which also burns) and C3H8 (propane, you know about that one) it may have others up to C5 H10 or so; that’s the good stuff, but when you design an engine you want a CONSISTENT fuel, and CNG is pretty much pure CH4. How do you get the others out (and what do you do with them?) You REFINE the gas (but not always at a refinery, he gets that right) out in the oilfield; you take the separated not-methanes (usually called CONDENSATE) and sell them to the refineries for gasoline blending, reforming, etc. or sometimes to plastics …
But that’s all on the GOOD side. On the bad side, normal natural gas is often SOUR – contains H2S, a neurotoxin of high toxicity. THAT also gets removed in the oilfield, and can be used (Claus process) to make sulfur, etc. BUT it can’t just ” be captured (and compressed) and put into storage tanks before it’s ready to be used as a fuel.” There’s a fair amount of handling / treatment required BEFORE it can be captured and compressed – and did I mention that CO2 also shows up a lot? Fortunately, that too can be treated out in the oilfield.
But Eric is way out of his league on this one – CNG is great stuff, but you don’t get it for free or that easily – or CNG would have conquered the ICE long before now. It has it’s place, but pound for pound gasoline packs a MUCH heavier power-punch, as does diesel, which is why we use them more often.

WestcoastDeplorable
WestcoastDeplorable
January 10, 2019 11:05 pm

Lots of buses and garbage trucks in Socal run on it.