What a difference a decade makes…
President Obama talks about immigration at an Orange County Town Hall event in March 2009…
Full Transcript (via The LA Times):
I just met with the Congressional Hispanic Caucus today, which Congresswoman Sanchez is a member of — (applause) — to talk about this issue directly. As many of you know, during the campaign I was asked repeatedly about this, and I reiterated my belief that we have to have comprehensive immigration reform.
Now, I know this is an emotional issue, I know it’s a controversial issue, I know that the people get real riled up politically about this, but — but ultimately, here’s what I believe: We are a nation of immigrants, number one.
Number two, we do have to have control of our borders. Number three, that people who have been here for a long time and put down roots here have to have some mechanism over time to get out of the shadows, because if they stay in the shadows, in the underground economy, then they are oftentimes pitted against American workers.
Since they can’t join a union, they can’t complain about minimum wages, et cetera, they end up being abused, and that depresses the wages of everybody, all Americans. (Applause.)
So I don’t think that we can do this piecemeal. I think what we have to do is to come together and say, we’re going to strengthen our borders — and I’m going to be going to Mexico, I’m going to be working with President Calderón in Mexico to figure out how do we get control over the border that’s become more violent because of the drug trade.
We have to combine that with cracking down on employers who are exploiting undocumented workers. (Applause.) We have to make sure that there’s a verification system to find out whether somebody is legally able to work here or not. But we have to make sure that that verification system does not discriminate just because you’ve got a Hispanic last name or your last name is Obama. (Laughter.)
You’ve got to — and then you’ve got to say to the undocumented workers, you have to say, look, you’ve broken the law; you didn’t come here the way you were supposed to. So this is not going to be a free ride. It’s not going to be some instant amnesty. What’s going to happen is you are going to pay a significant fine. You are going to learn English. (Applause.)
You are going to — you are going to go to the back of the line so that you don’t get ahead of somebody who was in Mexico City applying legally. (Applause.) But after you’ve done these things over a certain period of time you can earn your citizenship, so that it’s not — it’s not something that is guaranteed or automatic. You’ve got to earn it. But over time you give people an opportunity.
Now, it only works though if you do all the pieces. I think the American people, they appreciate and believe in immigration. But they can’t have a situation where you just have half a million people pouring over the border without any kind of mechanism to control it.
So we’ve got to deal with that at the same time as we deal in a humane fashion with folks who are putting down roots here, have become our neighbors, have become our friends, they may have children who are U.S. citizens. (Applause.) That’s the kind of comprehensive approach that we have to take. All right. Okay. (Applause.)
What would happen if President Trump said those exact same words tomorrow night?
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The real deal is the Democrats are refusing to discuss a ‘system’ – because they want Trump to fail.
Keep posting, man!
Galvanization might occur. Especially, if he managed to incorporate some of our own Samuel Adams’ of TBP (not the lager, the author) themes from his Satirical Dream into the final presentation.
Seriously, if you are one of Donald Trump’s advisors trolling the site to see what people are blogging about and commenting on most. The numbers are advertising magnets to some algorithms, I imagine, and draw certain readers here. I learned a little too much about how those algorithms work and decided discretion and retreat are flip sides of the same coin.
I helped propel a few posts into that realm with chitchat and smalltalk myself until I reached the liminality, fork in the road, horns of a dilemma but never the horns of a bull. Words are at our command, but there are limitations in how far their meaning will take you if you seek to win the heart of a nation.
There really is a time for all things. Maybe it is time for HONESTY to be loosed upon the land to defeat the lying spirits out of Israel.
(There are good spirits in Israel, but there are some really powerful enemies which reside in that little piece of liebensraum. Which brings us back to the issue of property…
It should “life, liberty and property.” Without secure rights to one’s property, angry mobs could overtake what is yours and the law would approve of the “redistribution” of wealth. “All things being equal” is a clue similar to “once upon a time” or “long ago and far away.” You are about to hear a legend or fairy tale, with only your own store of knowledge to measure. Legends are cultural “truths.” Fairy tales are stories woven from facts and memories. So, Life, liberty and property are a bit more solid to work with than legends of equality and fairness.
Spirit of lies indeed. Life, liberty and property is protected by a barrel of a gun when the Law of the Land prostitutes itself for the Harlot of the House.
Who said this below?
“When a man is secure in the possession of his property, he has an area of liberty and dominion which is beyond the reach of other men. If no man and no state can reach in to tax and confiscate his property, man can enjoy true liberty and great security, whether he be prosperous or poor. Every attack on private property is, therefore, an attack on man’s liberty. Man’s freedom and security in the possession of his property is not only basic to man’s independence, but it is also basic to his power. A man has power if he can act independently of other men and the state, if he can make his stand in the confidence of liberty. Every attack on private property therefore is also an attack on the powers of free men as well as their liberty.”
Hint… another Virginian…
Assuming the property was acquired by honest labors.
John Locke… I meant to provide a link.
Obama’s words were meant to sound like all things to all people. “It’s not going to be some instant amnesty.” To Dems that means the “undocumented” are going to have to pay some small fine and turn in some application form, after which they’ll immediately be given permanent residency and citizenship a couple years later. Immigration hardliners think it means something less.
Obama failed at a compromise because he didn’t want a compromise. He – like all democrats- wanted the whole enchilada. If they take the Senate and White House, they’ll immediately end the filibuster and ram through the biggest and fastest amnesty in history – one that hands citizenship to all but a few of the illegals.
I think the entire SOTU should be nothing but video of all these hypocrites calling for a wall until the day Trump took office.
Then, throw in some their racist videos for extra spice.
I don’t even care about a wall, but I love exposing blatant hyprocrisy.
A fabulous idea.
Then throw in a few Black History Month (to celebrate it bien sur) Hip Hop (cause it sure ain’t music) interludes for everyone’s enjoyment and edification. Suggested numbers:
– Nicki Minaj: “Lookin Ass Nigga”
– Tupac Shakur: “Gettin’ Money”
– Riskay : “Let Me Smell Yo Dick”
– CHapter Jackson: “It’s Free Swipe Yo EBT ”
*Just to show, y’know , tha The Man From Queens is culturally attuned as he grew up a stone’s throw away from Jamaica and shit.
I watched the melodic dick smelling video. I would like to see Nancy Pelosi, House Hag, sing it to Schumer.
Do it every chance you get.
It’s pushback against them and their motives.
I was going to say the same thing. Show the videos and the quotes, then have Trump drop the mic. He wouldn’t have to say anything.
The memory hole isn’t measured in decades or years or months anymore.
It’s measured in days, hours, and minutes.
Trump could simply use these democrat quotes and allow the world to see their hipocracy. Why he doesnt baffles me.. just use “quotes” on twitter giving credit to each dem thatbstated it. Do it everyday. Winning…..