Old Movies

Guest Post by The Zman

When I was a kid, we did not have cable, mostly because it did not exist, at least as we understand it. Cable TV existed as far back as the 1950’s, but it was not common and the selection was no different from over the air offerings. It has been a long time, but I recall we had two network channels we could reliably receive over the air and two or three minor channels. UHF channels were local and played mostly re-runs of old shows and some local broadcasting. VHF channels had the national network offerings.

From the vantage point of the 1970’s, “old” TV shows were mostly things from the 1960’s, but old movies from the 40’s and 50’s were common too. In other words, if you wanted to peak back in time to the previous eras of American culture, you could reliably go back a decade and selectively go back a few decades. Bad old TV shows like Get Smart and Star Trek would go into syndication, but bad old movies were just forgotten. The old movies that were shown on TV were usually the good ones that people liked.

What that meant is if you wanted to know what it was like to live in 1945, you had to ask someone who was alive in 1945. You could get a little taste of it from watching old movies on a Saturday afternoon, but that was a stylized version. To really get a feel for the age before color movies and television, you had to rely on the fading memories of grandma and grandpa. Of course, this was true for all of human history until recent. It’s why old people are good at telling stories about the old days. They’re built for it.

Today it is different. I watched The Thomas Crown Affair the other night off the Kodi machine. This was the 1968 version with Faye Dunaway and Steve McQueen. There was a remake of this in 1999 with Pierce Bronson. I had seen the remake a few times, but I never saw the original. In fact, I did not know there was an original. That’s a bit of interesting cultural data right there. Just about every movie produced over the last twenty-five years is either a remake or made from a children’s comic book.

What I found remarkable about the movie is something I notice whenever I watch old movies and that is the maturity. A movie about the cat and mouse between a male and female today will have at least half an hour of rutting and humping, along with some explosions and lots of vulgar language. The modern presentation of male-female relations is so crude, that porn makers of the past would have been offended. In the old days, the film maker and audience expected a more sophisticated portrayal of sexual relations.

That is the other thing that turns up in old movies and television. Hollywood made assumptions about the cultural awareness of the audience we don’t see now.  In the Thomas Crown Affair, there is a long scene around a chess game. It was supposed to be a stand in for the sexual tension between McQueen and Dunaway. It’s a bit ham-handed, but vastly more sophisticated than anything you would see today. One reason is the typical viewer today knows nothing about chess, so it would be lost on them.

Part of that is due to Hollywood relying on international audiences to make money. You can’t expect to make money in China or India when your film is full of essential references to Anglo-Saxon cultural items. When you make films for the universal culture, you are making movies for a culture that does not exist. That means the goal is to remove cultural references, rather than rely on them to tell a story. There can be no subtlety and nuance without common cultural reference points understood by the audience.

The main thing that jumps out in old movies is the respect people had for themselves. The reason Steve McQueen was a star was because he played a role that was something men could aspire too. He would never have played a homosexual junkie or some other type of degenerate. People knew these sorts of people existed, but they expected them to be on the fringe of their lives and therefore on the fringe of their stories. Watch old movies and you see references to degeneracy, but it is always oblique.

Again, this goes to that respect for the audience. Just as the audience did not require thirty minutes of sex scenes to know the male and female were intimate, the audience did not have to see the gritty details of degeneracy to know it existed. The old movies assumed the viewers were adults who knew about the reality of life. Today’s film makers have to assume the viewers are retarded and need everything explained. Movies in late empire America are made for the recently arrived, provincial barbarians.

Finally, the thing that makes watching old movies worth the time is they offer a window into that long forgotten country of our ancestors. Unlike when I was a kid, young people don’t have to rely on old people telling them stories of the old days. Today, you can watch anything and everything ever made by Hollywood, even the bad stuff. Young people can watch YouTube clips from that country where humor was still legal. Most of it is crap, just as today, but it reveals what it was like in the bad old days.

More important, watching those old movies and TV shows, you can’t help but notice the early signs of poz being introduced. The stuff from the 1970’s is much more degenerate than the stuff from the 1960’s. In the 1980’s, the dumbing down becomes obvious as the makers started courting non-white audiences. It’s a good way to see how where we are now did not happen overnight. It was a long, deliberate war waged with patience and purpose. The fight for freedom will be long and require patience too.

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22winmag - Q is a Psyop and Trump is lead actor
22winmag - Q is a Psyop and Trump is lead actor
February 14, 2019 9:15 am

Back when “dyke”, “fag”, and smoking indoors were all still cool.

Carburetors and v belts too!

kerry
kerry
February 14, 2019 10:17 am

No argument from me. Like all the Hitchcock films and the sweeping historical movies from David Lean (Dr Zhivago, Lawrence of Arabia.) Plus the great John Ford.

lgr
lgr
February 14, 2019 10:23 am

Yes, the old versions are better. I caught the original Thomas Crown Affair on MeTV a few weeks ago, too.
The remake wasn’t as good. Ditto, for The Taking of Pelham 123.

Remakes are usually poor, trying to revive old classics with modern actors. A lame lack of creativity in Hollywood and New York. The cesspools are starting to reek, with a disgusting aroma. Modern failures of ‘entertainment’.

MeTV is popular with people in my age group. (60-ish) and older.
It takes us back to a time when things were more real. More wholesome. Not upside down. More accurate. No BS.
A friend likes watching old Andy Griffith episodes. Another likes Columbo.

Mary Tyler Moore was sexy, with subtlety. Not in your face and blatant.
Older movies have that characteristic.
I currently enjoy Sunday Night Film Noir black and whites featuring Bogey and Bacall, and similar actors from that era, which was even before my time.

I still like to turn to comedy as an escape, and there, too, the older offerings are vastly superior to modern
versions. Specifically, I’ve always had an appreciation for good writing, as acted out in the comedy series, a few that went by one-word titles: Taxi, Cheers, and more.
Others, like The Honeymooners, Barney Miller, etc.

There were messages in the older flicks, but at least they offered up creativity and style.

Which just reinforces the belief that 95-99% of the garbage produced in modern times is just that…garbage,
and not worthy of our time, attention, or money.

The Johnny-Come-Lately people in ALL entertainment and media are woefully incompetent and untalented.
Yet they froth all over themselves thinking they are worthy of respect and consideration.

I ignore them.
Especially when they weigh in on social and political issues,
as if their opinions are legitimate enough to be followed, like modern Pied Pipers.
Nobody gives a damn what you think, unless they can’t think for themselves.
Get back to work, and produce something of quality, with new twists, on older values real people can appreciate.
Let your story be the impetus; not filthy lucre.

…end of musings.

Captain Willard
Captain Willard
February 14, 2019 10:32 am

“The reason Steve McQueen was a star was because he played a role that was something men could aspire too. He would never have played a homosexual junkie or some other type of degenerate. ”

I guess Zman hasn’t seen “Papillon” or “The Getaway” yet. Steve McQueen was a star because he was very cool and had great range. But he portrayed plenty of crooks.

That said, Zman makes a lot of great points about the decline of American cinema. The gratuitous sex manages somehow to make sex un-sexy. The “blow ’em up” special effects, driven by the financial need to appeal to foreign audiences who don’t understand plot or cultural references, are just symptoms of this decline.

Has anyone here seen a decent American-made movie recently? If so, please post recommendations!

For me, I thought “Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Mo” was very well done.

I hope Zman returns to this topic and explores it more fully.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
  Captain Willard
February 15, 2019 1:10 am

I don’ watch any newer movies. I don’t even know who these actors are when people talk about what they said or tweeted about Trump.

Hardscrabble Farmer
Hardscrabble Farmer
February 14, 2019 11:01 am

I was working on a piece similar to this after a recent re-watching of entire television series from the 60’s, 70’s, 80’s and 90’s (Alfred Hitchcock Presents, Love American Style, Tales From The Crypt and Seinfeld) on YouTube. The changes not only in society, but in the people who were represented in these iconic series could not be more enlightening.

I quit watching television around the time our first son was born so I missed the last couple of decades- although my son had me watch the Survivor series and I found that to be fascinating on so many levels it probably deserves it’s own article.

Old Shoe
Old Shoe
February 14, 2019 11:16 am

There was a TV show, mid 50s called Sheena Queen Of The Jungle.
Made my little boy’s heart go pitter pat twitterpated.

MrLiberty
MrLiberty
February 14, 2019 1:32 pm

Turner Classic Movies is one of the main reasons I still have cable. Not just the old stuff, but the really, really old stuff including lost silent films where actors really had to act because speech and elaborate sets couldn’t cover for a crappy acting job. They do a “31 days of Oscar” during February and it is quite revealing to see the DE-evolution of the quality of films given Oscars over time. Not that every selection hasn’t been tainted by bullshit political issues, sentimental crap when it comes to dead actors or directors, or the promotion of anything having to do with the holocaust, but the OVERALL quality decline is so clearly obvious.

Harrington Richardson
Harrington Richardson
February 14, 2019 3:26 pm

When you watch stuff you saw as a kid 50 years or more back you notice things. I love the old Combat! series. I eventually noticed they always patrol around the same lake which I think is the same place they always fished on Andy Griffith. I also realized Kirby had no freaking clue on how to employ the BAR.
I also figured out that Twelve O’Clock High was primarily a soap opera with airplanes.
I have recorded an all time favorite to watch soon. “Union Pacific” from Cecile B. Demille starring the most underrated leading man of the golden age, Joel McCrea.
I would love to find a DVD or Blu ray (4k, but I dream) of Demille’s “Northwest Mounted Police” which was a technicolor spectacular around 1940 starring Gary Cooper. I greedily possess a Blu ray of John Ford’s “Drums Along the Mohawk” which was another color spectacular of the 30’s.

Done In Brad St.
Done In Brad St.
February 14, 2019 9:01 pm

Worthy observations. If you want to be floored look at the cultural references you were SUPPOSED to understand when Stirling Silliphant wrote screenplays for Perry Mason, Naked City and especially Route 66. Just the titles of some of them required a thorough grounding in classical mythological themes to decipher.

These rich entrees to dramatic television stories read like post graduate level work ups compared to today’s mind numbingly declasse offerings.

The cultural event horizon looms as we plunge into an era where cash registers have pictographs of the fast food slop because the illiterates peopling the machines recognize shapes with fewer mistakes than words.

What a fucking shit show.

Vixen Vic
Vixen Vic
February 15, 2019 1:06 am

I only watch old TV shows and old movies, especially from the ’20s, ’30s and ’40s, on YouTube.

It just doesn’tmatter
It just doesn’tmatter
February 15, 2019 11:47 am

I notice the sets, props and dialogue.